Thursday, 06 January 2022
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Can't be many finer countries in the world,
4 months ago
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#299632
One of the governments lawyers thought Djokovic would become” an icon of free choice”

Madness
4 months ago
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#299633
This has been going on since last year when it was mentioned about ND being unwilling to share his vaccine status although it is the rule in Australia you have to share it . Now he knew that and tried to pull a fast one and the only mistake Australia made was to let him actually enter the country. Its no different to you or I needing to visit a sick relative and has sod all to do with sport . Other countries have had restrictions too , recently France with us and the Isle of Man with their own strict restrictions. Their house their rules just a bigger version of taking your shoes off at the door . Tbh if he gets away without a ban from the country he is getting off lightly as folk have had that elsewhere .
4 months ago
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#299634
I don’t think he’d want to go back to be honest.

We will see the bigger picture, in the next few months I imagine. It’s a dangerous policy by Australia imo. Correct their rules though.
4 months ago
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#299637
There’s no denying Djokovic is an arrogant so and so but he has been deported because he won’t put something in his body.

This is wrong and sets a dangerous precedent. However it’s Australia’s rules, but it might bite them on the arse.

Good luck to the ACP and their Australian closed tournament.



That is NOT why he was deported. he was deported for breaking the immigration rules.

It is your choice if you get vaccinated or not, he chose not to, Australia has rules, and he broke them, so he was deported.

His family did not help his case chirping on in the background, from this we can only assume they knew he was to be deported all along.

It will be interesting to see what action the International Tennis Federation take in response.
4 months ago
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#299639
There’s no denying Djokovic is an arrogant so and so but he has been deported because he won’t put something in his body.

This is wrong and sets a dangerous precedent. However it’s Australia’s rules, but it might bite them on the arse.

Good luck to the ACP and their Australian closed tournament.



That is NOT why he was deported. he was deported for breaking the immigration rules.

It is your choice if you get vaccinated or not, he chose not to, Australia has rules, and he broke them, so he was deported.

His family did not help his case chirping on in the background, from this we can only assume they knew he was to be deported all along.

It will be interesting to see what action the International Tennis Federation take in response.


He was deported for not having a free choice.

For not wanting to inject something into his body - how ironic.
4 months ago
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#299640
There’s no denying Djokovic is an arrogant so and so but he has been deported because he won’t put something in his body.

This is wrong and sets a dangerous precedent. However it’s Australia’s rules, but it might bite them on the arse.

Good luck to the ACP and their Australian closed tournament.



That is NOT why he was deported. he was deported for breaking the immigration rules.

It is your choice if you get vaccinated or not, he chose not to, Australia has rules, and he broke them, so he was deported.

His family did not help his case chirping on in the background, from this we can only assume they knew he was to be deported all along.

It will be interesting to see what action the International Tennis Federation take in response.


He was deported for not having a free choice.


Of course he had a choice.

He choose to try and break the rules, and got caught out, tough luck I'm afraid.
4 months ago
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#299642
There’s no denying Djokovic is an arrogant so and so but he has been deported because he won’t put something in his body.

This is wrong and sets a dangerous precedent. However it’s Australia’s rules, but it might bite them on the arse.

Good luck to the ACP and their Australian closed tournament.



That is NOT why he was deported. he was deported for breaking the immigration rules.

It is your choice if you get vaccinated or not, he chose not to, Australia has rules, and he broke them, so he was deported.

His family did not help his case chirping on in the background, from this we can only assume they knew he was to be deported all along.

It will be interesting to see what action the International Tennis Federation take in response.


He was deported for not having a free choice.


Of course he had a choice.

He choose to try and break the rules, and got caught out, tough luck I'm afraid.


I’ll keep hold of that one, the next time you post on here not agreeing to some rules or twine about the train situation.

Tough luck - can’t do out about it.

The worlds turning into China everyday. Maybe they’ve infiltrated the Aussie government as well.
4 months ago
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#299644
I've zero sympathy.

He is an idiot.

He went ahead with PR events knowing fine well he was Covid positive.
4 months ago
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#299645
I've zero sympathy.

He is an idiot.

He went ahead with PR events knowing fine well he was Covid positive.





And he was fine as were the people he met.

He may be an idiot, but you don’t become the best ever tennis player being an idiot.

Look at the bigger picture in all of this. Discrimination is allowed again.
4 months ago
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#299648
Its like me going to work in a care setting without telling anyone my status if i am vaccinated or not to give support...its the way it is in this pandemic

It be very foolish indeed..if i was caught..i certainly wouldnt have a job...simple fact i didnt comply with the rules set put in the 1st place.

Novak and his arrogance to it all has come back to bite him...as i said he needs to think and take responsibility himself.

Well done Aussies for not bowing down.
4 months ago
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#299651
You do all realise that ND would’ve had to declare his vaccination status as part of the Visa process? Hardly ‘keeping it secret’!

Just because he doesn’t broadcast it doesn’t mean he misses it out on this sort of stuff, indeed I’m sure this was established during the first hearing?
4 months ago
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#299653
He got what he deserved.
Everyone knew the rules months ago and he decided to be the big I am and chance his arm - the arm that should have had a needle or two in it.
He had a choice about having the vaccine or not, just as it was Australia's choice to not let him in. The only mistake was allowing him in in the first place.
And don't start this 'bigger picture' bollocks.
4 months ago
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#299654
If you watch the Australian Border force programmes the biggest surprise to me is that he was actually allowed to set foot outside the airport.
They come down very hard on anyone trying to enter without the correct documentation. Usually instant deportation.
4 months ago
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#299664
I've zero sympathy.

He is an idiot.

He went ahead with PR events knowing fine well he was Covid positive.





And he was fine as were the people he met.

He may be an idiot, but you don’t become the best ever tennis player being an idiot.

Look at the bigger picture in all of this. Discrimination is allowed again.



Like all top sportsmen, it's all about the brand, and he has done untold damage to his.

What about the position his sponsors are now in ? What pressure will they come under now, supporting a person who ignores all the rules and restrictions ?

When the Aussies first tried to kick him out, he should have apologised about an 'oversight' and jumped on the next plane out of there, just like the four others did.

But, no, not him, fight on,, try and embarrass the Aussie Government,try and blame old uncle John Cobly an'all and still get his marching orders.

He will have very deep regrets I'm sure.

https://www.business-standard.com/article/sports/novak-djokovic-entangles-sponsors-in-australian-open-vax-uproar-122011401411_1.html#:~:text=Hublot%20will%20continue%20its%20partnership,situation%2C%22%20the%20bank%20said.
It was very “convenient” catching covid in December wasn’t it? What was his supposed exemption going to be based on if he hadn’t “caught” that?
And why was he allowed to have appeals within a couple of days when others wait for months? He was treated exceptionally well considering he knew the rules and couldn’t follow them.
A change to see a government act properly for once
4 months ago
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#299670
What would happen, in say 4 years time, they found an issue with the vaccine and countries decided to stop admitting people who have had it?

It’s hypothetical, but we never thought we’d see these discriminatory issues.

Rules are good, if they don’t impact you but if that situation occurred would you just suck it up and say tough luck. If you were born black for instance in apartheid times do you just say unlucky.

Djokovic is an arrogant sod, you’ve sort or got to be to be as successful as him and has done things wrong. But looking at the bigger picture he will probably be seen in good light, in a few years time and how ridiculous this whole thing was.
4 months ago
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#299683
What would happen, in say 4 years time, they found an issue with the vaccine and countries decided to stop admitting people who have had it?

It’s hypothetical, but we never thought we’d see these discriminatory issues.

Rules are good, if they don’t impact you but if that situation occurred would you just suck it up and say tough luck. If you were born black for instance in apartheid times do you just say unlucky.

Djokovic is an arrogant sod, you’ve sort or got to be to be as successful as him and has done things wrong. But looking at the bigger picture he will probably be seen in good light, in a few years time and how ridiculous this whole thing was.



Your drivel knows no bounds.

What the hell has apartheid got to do with a covid vaccine ?

When not use the analogy of drinking and driving ? It's perfectly OK as long as you don't injure or kill anybody, isn't it ?
4 months ago
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#299768
What would happen, in say 4 years time, they found an issue with the vaccine and countries decided to stop admitting people who have had it?

It’s hypothetical, but we never thought we’d see these discriminatory issues.

Rules are good, if they don’t impact you but if that situation occurred would you just suck it up and say tough luck. If you were born black for instance in apartheid times do you just say unlucky.

Djokovic is an arrogant sod, you’ve sort or got to be to be as successful as him and has done things wrong. But looking at the bigger picture he will probably be seen in good light, in a few years time and how ridiculous this whole thing was.



Your drivel knows no bounds.

What the hell has apartheid got to do with a covid vaccine ?

When not use the analogy of drinking and driving ? It's perfectly OK as long as you don't injure or kill anybody, isn't it ?


Discrimination!

Same as discriminating against the Jews who were thought of as unclean by the nazis. Those that aren’t jabbed are seen as unclean and a health risk and can’t play in a tennis tournament.

It’s seen as ok as it’s for health reasons. History has taught us that any sort of discrimination is wrong including apartheid.

Discriminating someone for being unclean as they won’t get jabbed with something is wrong!
4 months ago
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#299779
Your'e getting silly now.
ND nor any other anti vaxxer I am aware of have been dragged off to concentration camps and gassed.
But hey, you may know different.
4 months ago
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#299795
Your'e getting silly now.
ND nor any other anti vaxxer I am aware of have been dragged off to concentration camps and gassed.
But hey, you may know different.


ND was detained, not in a concentration camp no.

This is how it starts, segregate society, this time by a medical treatment and don’t let them participate in society.

And that’s fine?
4 months ago
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#299800
Ok, I'll bite..... How what starts?
4 months ago
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#299803
"This is how is starts.....the hunger, the fever, the rage....."


Guess the film and who said it .




Anyway i have no passport , am i going to blag my way abroad....

No because i know the rules..no passport no entry...i need a passport tobtravel the world...its my choice not to have one but the consequences are that i am stuck in Great Britain.

A DBS is mandatory for my job....i can choose not to have one..but the consequence is i have no job.

The equations in life are simple sometimes...

The pandemic is not about individuals its looking after everyone around us..so we can live safely again in future.
4 months ago
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#299804
Mullen your missing the biggest key difference with your comparison.

The people in Nazi Germany did not choose to be Jewish , they were target because of they came from a Jewish families, even if they did not practices Jewish faith anymore.

Apartheid people did not not choose to be black.

You are comparing decision were people knew the consequence against things people have no control over.
4 months ago
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#299805
Ok, I'll bite..... How what starts?


Allowing discrimination again.
4 months ago
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#299807
Mullen your missing the biggest key difference with your comparison.

The people in Nazi Germany did not choose to be Jewish , they were target because of they came from a Jewish families, even if they did not practices Jewish faith anymore.

Apartheid people did not not choose to be black.

You are comparing decision were people knew the consequence against things people have no control over.



Thank you HB

Correct those were examples where they was little or no choice. Although the nazis allowed Jews to turn their families in but no you’re right.

You make no secret of your sexuality HB. Thankfully we’ve moved on but what would happen if you were subjected to an attack because of that plus homophobic abuse and all you got was tough/sorry your choice to be like that, change your choice to fit in with society or accept these consequences for your actions.

You wouldn’t like it HB and you’d feel discriminated against as you did when NS posted his things - rightly so.

Sorry to use you as an example HB but you did reply. Discriminating against someone because they won’t take a medical treatment sets a very bad precedent imo. Yes it’s a choice like religion and sexuality but you can’t discriminate on those grounds.

It’s ok saying these are the rules. Apartheid was a rule in South Africa didn’t mean it was right.

What did I mean when I said it’s just the start? - well discrimination is starting again In other areas.
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