Friday, 24 January 2020
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Cobra meeting held to discuss plan of action if it comes to the UK (assuming it hasn't already). This is another consequence of globalisation and mass immigration, people with diseases from all over the world travelling all over the world, what could possibly go wrong?
2 years ago
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#240432
Most hand sanitisers are 60% alcohol so alcohol does help but not by necking it. I suppose if the supermarket run out of hand gel you could make your own with cheap rum or vodka (has to be stronger than average though) :-)
2 years ago
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#240433
I have a few questions, some frivolous.
What is the difference in symptoms between the coronavirus and the flu or common cold?
Are masks effective? Can the virus permeate through them? After all you have to breath.
Can you catch the disease without ever showing any symptoms and still be a spreader?
Can you catch the virus more than once or do you become immune?
Can you have the virus, recover from it, only for it to flare up again at a later date?
Do you always get a 'temperature' when you have it?
Are you more likely to catch it if you have high blood pressure?
Does alcohol help in preventing you catching the virus?


You can't get it twice apparently.
2 years ago
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#240434
What is the difference in symptoms between the coronavirus and the flu or common cold?
They are the same but you can be symptom free with corona.

Are masks effective? Can the virus permeate through them? After all you have to breath.

Masks are effective to a degree at stopping you from sneezing or coughing the virus on those around you, but if you touch the mask and then someone else you can spread it. Less so for protection as your breathing will moisten the mask meaning the virus can penetrate the external membrane meaning contact with your mouth and the mask. The virus can also be contracted through the eyes.

Can you catch the disease without ever showing any symptoms and still be a spreader?
Yes

Can you catch the virus more than once or do you become immune?
Yes and no you do not become immune from reinfection with any degree of certainty

Can you have the virus, recover from it, only for it to flare up again at a later date?
Yes

Do you always get a 'temperature' when you have it?
No

Are you more likely to catch it if you have high blood pressure?
Yes

Does alcohol help in preventing you catching the virus?
Only when used for sanitation purposes not consumption.
2 years ago
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#240435
Those companies manufacturing and those selling hand sanitizer will be rubbing their hands!
2 years ago
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#240437
Nothing in the news about a Carlisle case but results are normally updated 2pm.

466 new cases and 27 new deaths in Italy, for a total of 2,502 cases and 79 deaths to date.
Among the 2,263 active cases, 1,034 (46%) are hospitalized, 229 of which (representing 10% of active cases) are in intensive care.
Among the 239 closed cases, 160 (67%) have recovered, 79 (33%) have died.

We are just 2/3 weeks behind Italy and they way things are going most of us will get it and some of us will die.


Are well hell as like

Or can you show me an area of this country where we did nothing for two weeks allowing it to be passed unhindered as happened in Northern Italy ?

There isn't really even so much as a real cluster in this country. There is yet to be anyone proven to be a fourth-generation infection and to the best of my knowledge, we are yet to see anyone being isolated against their will.

And the establishment of these hubs that are starting to appear at most large hospitals shows that the authorities aren't sitting on their arses doing anything in fact what I heard about what went on yesterday in Bury after the 3rd case there was confirmed it shows to me that so long as it doesn't get massively out of control the measures in place at the minute and those planned in case they need to step up are about as much as they could be expected to do.


I live in Hungary - I fear this is exactly what is going on here: No cases officially here, yet people I know have had symptoms and not been offered a test. 2 students who were in Budapest last weekend were tested positive on their return to Prague.

Pretty worrying, but for once, when watching the news about the response in the UK I feel like it sounds like they have things running alright in a pre-emptive sense given how relatively low the levels in the population currently are.
2 years ago
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#240438
Italian death toll now 79.
2 years ago
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#240439
Just confirmed on BBC News that one of the new cases is in Carlisle.

They work at the hospital but haven't been back to work.

They have recently been to Italy - seems everyone that has been to Italy has returned with it.
Cheers Munchy hahaha let's hope not, still visit daily read only as I find some on here more irritating than the corona symptoms. To be honest I'd rather catch it and get it over with, trying to avoid something with a contagious incubation period of 14 days is futile at best, unless you don't visit supermarkets, isolate yourself and wall up your front door for the next three months.

Boris quoting 1% when the global figure is running at over 3% is misleading and a disingenuous attempt to ease panic. I prefer to face facts and accept most of us are going to get it, what troubles me is what that will mean long term. Unlike flue this thing doesn't leave the body when the symptoms do, but lays dormant within. Corona virus is potentially very dangerous, those comparing it to flue are just managing their fear with denial and are less likely to heed preventative measures as a result.


It was Proffessor Chris Whitty, UK Chief Medical Officer who said this, this morning on GMTV, I heard him.

Came accross as very pragmatic and methodical.
2 years ago
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#240441
Nothing in the news about a Carlisle case but results are normally updated 2pm.

466 new cases and 27 new deaths in Italy, for a total of 2,502 cases and 79 deaths to date.
Among the 2,263 active cases, 1,034 (46%) are hospitalized, 229 of which (representing 10% of active cases) are in intensive care.
Among the 239 closed cases, 160 (67%) have recovered, 79 (33%) have died.

We are just 2/3 weeks behind Italy and they way things are going most of us will get it and some of us will die.


Are well hell as like

Or can you show me an area of this country where we did nothing for two weeks allowing it to be passed unhindered as happened in Northern Italy ?

There isn't really even so much as a real cluster in this country. There is yet to be anyone proven to be a fourth-generation infection and to the best of my knowledge, we are yet to see anyone being isolated against their will.

And the establishment of these hubs that are starting to appear at most large hospitals shows that the authorities aren't sitting on their arses doing anything in fact what I heard about what went on yesterday in Bury after the 3rd case there was confirmed it shows to me that so long as it doesn't get massively out of control the measures in place at the minute and those planned in case they need to step up are about as much as they could be expected to do.


I live in Hungary - I fear this is exactly what is going on here: No cases officially here, yet people I know have had symptoms and not been offered a test. 2 students who were in Budapest last weekend were tested positive on their return to Prague.

Pretty worrying, but for once, when watching the news about the response in the UK I feel like it sounds like they have things running alright in a pre-emptive sense given how relatively low the levels in the population currently are.


Another country that you might think is ignoring the risk is North Korea, which is sandwiched between China and South Korea where the virus is widespread.
2 years ago
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#240442
"Can you catch the virus more than once or do you become immune?
Yes and no you do not become immune from reinfection with any degree of certainty"


Bollocks.

https://twitter.com/GMB/status/1235110384379588609?s=09
2 years ago
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#240443
Dr Hilary an ‘expert’? :-D
2 years ago
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#240444
Wasn't Carlisle somewhere that used to be used for market research due to the population spread and differing socio-economic backgrounds of the area?

If it's a choice between the virus and "Sunny D" I'd take my chance with the virus.
2 years ago
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#240445
Dr Hilary an ‘expert’? :-D


Got his info of a Langtoon Lada driver so must me right.
;-)
2 years ago
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#240446
Italian death toll now 107 and Iranian death toll almost 100.
2 years ago
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#240447
I bet the German public are more than happy that they have let this massive influx of people into their country now and they are still heading there in their droves spreading the virus faster and even harder to control.

At least we can go on lockdown easier as an island if it does get too nasty, probably be too late by then mind - you will still get those daft [censored] in a blow up boat trying to get in regardless.
2 years ago
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#240448
Those companies manufacturing and those selling hand sanitizer will be rubbing their hands!



Ahh I'm a contented man! Parcelpete likes one of my jokes!! My life is complete....
2 years ago
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#240449
Is it true that there is a portal where you can get tested at the Cumberland Infirmary?

If so it goes against WHO and government policy.
2 years ago
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#240450
"Can you catch the virus more than once or do you become immune?
Yes and no you do not become immune from reinfection with any degree of certainty"


Bollocks.

https://twitter.com/GMB/status/1235110384379588609?s=09



The operative words in your MSM link to the scientific programme Good Morning Britain are "unlikely" and "almost certainly", well "almost" never won a race did it Alan. I'm open to reassessment, just post a link to a peer reviewed scientific paper stating as much and I will stand corrected, until such time I will continue to rely on my own diligence and research. I will avoid being spoon-fed information from a concerned government having to balance real facts against public panic. The use of the word bollocks to convey your response speaks volumes about your attitude towards our current dilemma. :)

A report by the health authority in China’s Guangdong province, the country’s most populated province with 113 million people, said that 14% of the patients that had recovered from the coronavirus showed new signs of it in later check-ups. In other words, over 1 in 10 people that got rid of the virus got infected again.

Li QinGyuan, director of pneumonia prevention and treatment at China Japan Friendship Hospital in Beijing said: “However, in certain individuals, the antibody cannot last that long. For many patients who have been cured, there is a likelihood of relapse. Patients who recovered from coronavirus need to keep proper hygiene to avoid getting it twice.”

https://www.zmescience.com/science/a-startling-number-of-coronavirus-patients-get-reinfected/

Video link to conference clip for those who find reading overly taxing:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZ99J7mlaIQ

Returning to my self-imposed exile now, don't rely on what I have said, do your own research, be vigilant and good luck. Ltrs Munchy, tek care m8 :)
2 years ago
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#240451
Guandong is twinned with newport. When are they due up?
2 years ago
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#240452
"Can you catch the virus more than once or do you become immune?
Yes and no you do not become immune from reinfection with any degree of certainty"


Bollocks.

https://twitter.com/GMB/status/1235110384379588609?s=09



The operative words in your MSM link to the scientific programme Good Morning Britain are "unlikely" and "almost certainly", well "almost" never won a race did it Alan. I'm open to reassessment, just post a link to a peer reviewed scientific paper stating as much and I will stand corrected, until such time I will continue to rely on my own diligence and research. I will avoid being spoon-fed information from a concerned government having to balance real facts against public panic. The use of the word bollocks to convey your response speaks volumes about your attitude towards our current dilemma. :)

A report by the health authority in China’s Guangdong province, the country’s most populated province with 113 million people, said that 14% of the patients that had recovered from the coronavirus showed new signs of it in later check-ups. In other words, over 1 in 10 people that got rid of the virus got infected again.

Li QinGyuan, director of pneumonia prevention and treatment at China Japan Friendship Hospital in Beijing said: “However, in certain individuals, the antibody cannot last that long. For many patients who have been cured, there is a likelihood of relapse. Patients who recovered from coronavirus need to keep proper hygiene to avoid getting it twice.”

https://www.zmescience.com/science/a-startling-number-of-coronavirus-patients-get-reinfected/

Video link to conference clip for those who find reading overly taxing:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZ99J7mlaIQ

Returning to my self-imposed exile now, don't rely on what I have said, do your own research, be vigilant and good luck. Ltrs Munchy, tek care m8 :)


You too pal - stay in touch :)
2 years ago
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#240453
28 new cases of which 25 are in London - it will spread rapidly.

Uk now in phase 2 (delay) due to evidence of community transmission.

Impossible to control now its lose in London.

We are also infecting other countries - 1 new case in Lebanon: a Lebanese woman coming from Britain.
2 years ago
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#240454
28 new cases of which 25 are in London - it will spread rapidly.

Uk now in phase 2 (delay) due to evidence of community transmission.

Impossible to control now its lose in London.

We are also infecting other countries - 1 new case in Lebanon: a Lebanese woman coming from Britain.


Hope you’ve got plenty of toilet paper stockpiled.
2 years ago
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#240455

We are just 2/3 weeks behind Italy and they way things are going most of us will get it and some of us will die.


Are well hell as like

Or can you show me an area of this country where we did nothing for two weeks allowing it to be passed unhindered as happened in Northern Italy ?

There isn't really even so much as a real cluster in this country. There is yet to be anyone proven to be a fourth-generation infection and to the best of my knowledge, we are yet to see anyone being isolated against their will.


Yeah, I was told this today (from a source slightly more reliable than a pub landlord with a penchant for fetish clubs). We are mapping exactly like Italy three weeks ago.

We will be in pretty much the same situation as they are now around the end of the month.
2 years ago
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#240456
What happened to edit? My post makes bugger all sense and i'd like to tidy it up.
2 years ago
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#240457
What happened to edit? My post makes bugger all sense and i'd like to tidy it up.

Ask Kessler.
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