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21 Dec 2019 11:34 #101 by Kessler
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Mullen103 wrote: Kessler has a point in that a well run club you wouldn’t need to ask questions


Rather than limiting how many questions someone can ask, CUSG should see this as a goal to set for themselves. Be transparent and open, and we won't need to ask so many questions.

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21 Dec 2019 11:38 #102 by Mullen103
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I’d propose making next meetings questions unlimited (same as) - because it’s unfair on others to do it suddenly.

Then propose in that meeting that you’ll limit it for the next one to 2 questions per person but also list all the contact details for each group so people can contact them directly and see if the groups are happy with that.

NC mentioned in the responses he is happy to respond to the questions and prefers them in writing - it’s swings and roundabouts but the documents too big.

At least we’re not Stockport

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21 Dec 2019 11:44 #103 by Mullen103
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Kessler wrote:

Mullen103 wrote: Kessler has a point in that a well run club you wouldn’t need to ask questions


Rather than limiting how many questions someone can ask, CUSG should see this as a goal to set for themselves. Be transparent and open, and we won't need to ask so many questions.


Yeah - see your point.

When I first started asking questions I was seen as annoying, fishing for info - but it wasn’t the case it was more so to ask why they made a certain decision and things weren’t being done - I think they understand that critism can be used in a good way - and I think I’ve changed their minds which is a plus.

However the document is too big. 30 odd pages is too much in one go.

The other thing you can do is weekly questions or as you say the groups update their sites regularly.

You can’t be reading 30 pages every month, people will get sick. Even I got sick of reading it and that says something.

It’ll be a shame losing the questions as there’s a lot of good ones but it needs to change .

At least we’re not Stockport

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21 Dec 2019 11:50 #104 by Mullen103
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thetashkentterror wrote: I think it's a joke that fans are expected to pay for it Bumble that's one thing that is for sure.

It's a professional Football League club for crying out loud, not an under-16s Sunday league team.


The clubs owners should be doing this sort of thing - agreed.

But they aren’t: Cusg shouldn’t be criticised and supporters either for helping, if anything a bucket collection shows the state the clubs in under the owners and might highlight it.

At least we’re not Stockport

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21 Dec 2019 11:54 #105 by Mullen103
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Also when I asked questions at the start, there were a lot, but no one else was asking them.

Now there is, fantastic! that’s what I wanted. I’m putting mine to 2 next month, voluntarily because people’s getting involved now.

36 pages - No

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21 Dec 2019 12:01 #106 by CCU
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I said ‘No’ at the Meeting to doing them in batches. Reason being, I don’t get paid for the time I spend on doing them, I do them as a service for fans/users. Probably took 3-4hrs in total this time round with such a lot, but done in two sessions. Splitting them up would eat into more time IMO and I’ve plenty things to do otherwise.

One thing I would say, as seen in some replies, the same (or very similar) questions are appearing. A little bit of research into previous Q&A to see what’s been asked is advised...

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21 Dec 2019 13:38 #107 by Bumble
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thetashkentterror wrote: I think it's a joke that fans are expected to pay for it Bumble that's one thing that is for sure.

It's a professional Football League club for crying out loud, not an under-16s Sunday league team.


You see I just don't agree with that at all.

Firstly, no fan is EXPECTED to pay for it. We won't be pressganging folk or holding them against a wall. Those who wish to can, those who don't won't, it isn't compulsary.

Secondly this is a fans iniative. Personally and my own opinion only, I would prefer it to stay that way. If the club becomes involved financing it then the initiative goes to the club.

I'm old enought to remember Knighton thought it was fine to stick a load of photos and press cuttings in a skip because he preferred to look forward rather than look back at the 70s. who knows if a future owner will have similar ideas.

I like the idea of the clubs heritage being looked after by the fans, they are the ones who really understand our history.

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21 Dec 2019 15:36 #108 by NORTHERNSOUL
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Bumble wrote: I know there are folk who won't support the memorbillia drive in either time or money and that's fine but for those of us who o support it, it isn't a joke.

The club has and does refurb and repaint rooms (sometimes with help form sponsors), see the excellent job in Foxy's for a recent example.

CUSG have already started with the memorabilia drive in the Sunset suite, plans are ongoing for other bars, corridors and spaces all over the ground to tell our history. Whilst fans have been very generous bringing in their memorabillia, from time to time money is needed to see the project through. Things like frames, canvases, glass wall cupboards, just things to house the fans collections of Carlisle United fans' important moments.

In some ways nothing to do the club, certainly nothing to do with the present ownership or staff, fans stuff, our stuff, not just CUSGs, all Carlisle United fans..

So a bucket collection was planned, just to give the iniative a little independence, so it could be kept as a fans iniative. Fans who want to help can give their money and be reminded they would be welcome to give their time.

If folk think it's a joke, that's fine, no one is forcing anyone to get involved.


Simple Answer

We have an old [censored] called Jenkins who owns the club and the business who is worth 17.4 million pounds why the hell should supporters or anyone else for that matter have to pay to maintain and decorate facilities in a stadium he owns and operates.Time he either turned his pockets out or made thousands of people very happy by [censored] off once and for all.

To give any money to a collection for this will have one result and that's next time they want cash for something else they.ll be rattling those buckets once again expecting you to pay for things that are clearly the responsibility of the clubs owners.

Don't give them a [censored] penny
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21 Dec 2019 16:02 #109 by Bumble
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I do agree there were a lot of really interesting questions from a fair few different people this time, and there were interesting answers.

The problem was I was totally outfaced and I wasn't the only one. which was a shame.

I fully understand and agree with CCU, he doedsn't need and shouldn't be expected to spend hours collating the stuff.

So what I would suggest is . . .

Everything is done as it is now until Andy Hall gets to put it together for the q and a page. Then depending on how many questions and how long the answers are, he splits the final document over two three four or even five days. So each day there was an easily read set of qs and as.

For it to work folk would have to have a little patience, their questions may not appear til the end but at long as they appear does that matter? Wouldn't it be easier to read and deal with?

I haven't a clue whether this is practical btw, there could well be good reasons not to do it, but it seems a shame when a lot of folk have put hard work into their questions and more folk put hard work into getting the answers out that it's not really very easy to get through.

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21 Dec 2019 16:02 #110 by NORTHERNSOUL
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Kessler wrote:

NORTHERNSOUL wrote:

CarlisleWhite wrote: Was the aim when joining this group to get into the position when the CEO of the Company would end up writing 36 page responses to questions he has been asked as part of the meeting. It must takes him days to respond to these points. Maybe he has so much time on his hands now EWM have effectively clipped his wings.
If it was, I would suggest all involved give their heads a wobble.
Call me old fashioned, but I would like the CEO to be sorting out the bollocks going on at the club - like being happy with a volunteer (a scaffolder at that, good lad that he is) being relied on to sort out commercial activities, to name but one.
Does anyone feel enriched by the answers, apart from Kessler and Mullen?
If people insist on continuing with this farce, please get a maximum of six questions asked. Let CCU decide on the most relevant ones, and have them about major items only.
This group is turning into every bit as much of a farce as The Trust.


Of course, it is and that's why the Message Board should have nothing to do with it.

Would be much better putting their time and effort into a concerted campaign to get Jenkins out like the message boards at Blackpool did with Oyston like arranging a picnic on Jenkins front lawn.


No, that would be trespass.


And why would that be relevent ? You soft arsed little shit

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21 Dec 2019 16:10 #111 by CCU
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Bumble wrote: I do agree there were a lot of really interesting questions from a fair few different people this time, and there were interesting answers.

The problem was I was totally outfaced and I wasn't the only one. which was a shame.

I fully understand and agree with CCU, he doedsn't need and shouldn't be expected to spend hours collating the stuff.

So what I would suggest is . . .

Everything is done as it is now until Andy Hall gets to put it together for the q and a page. Then depending on how many questions and how long the answers are, he splits the final document over two three four or even five days. So each day there was an easily read set of qs and as.

For it to work folk would have to have a little patience, their questions may not appear til the end but at long as they appear does that matter? Wouldn't it be easier to read and deal with?

I haven't a clue whether this is practical btw, there could well be good reasons not to do it, but it seems a shame when a lot of folk have put hard work into their questions and more folk put hard work into getting the answers out that it's not really very easy to get through.


We start splitting it, it’s a waste of time IMO. It’s one set of Q’s. Remember the six part David Holdsworth thing in Summer? We got to part four then it disappeared!

Andy doesn’t ‘put it together’, I do. He scans it for spelling/grammar...

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21 Dec 2019 16:10 #112 by NORTHERNSOUL
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Mullen103 wrote: I’d propose making next meetings questions unlimited (same as) - because it’s unfair on others to do it suddenly.

Then propose in that meeting that you’ll limit it for the next one to 2 questions per person but also list all the contact details for each group so people can contact them directly and see if the groups are happy with that.

NC mentioned in the responses he is happy to respond to the questions and prefers them in writing - it’s swings and roundabouts but the documents too big.


I.d second that let's be having Jenkins e.mail address asap unless of course, it is true that the senile old [censored] hasn't got one as nobodys managed to explain to him how to open and switch his laptop.

But let's start by limiting Clibbins answers to 10 words or less
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21 Dec 2019 16:19 #113 by NORTHERNSOUL
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CCU wrote:

Bumble wrote: I do agree there were a lot of really interesting questions from a fair few different people this time, and there were interesting answers.

The problem was I was totally outfaced and I wasn't the only one. which was a shame.

I fully understand and agree with CCU, he doedsn't need and shouldn't be expected to spend hours collating the stuff.

So what I would suggest is . . .

Everything is done as it is now until Andy Hall gets to put it together for the q and a page. Then depending on how many questions and how long the answers are, he splits the final document over two three four or even five days. So each day there was an easily read set of qs and as.

For it to work folk would have to have a little patience, their questions may not appear til the end but at long as they appear does that matter? Wouldn't it be easier to read and deal with?

I haven't a clue whether this is practical btw, there could well be good reasons not to do it, but it seems a shame when a lot of folk have put hard work into their questions and more folk put hard work into getting the answers out that it's not really very easy to get through.


We start splitting it, it’s a waste of time IMO. It’s one set of Q’s. Remember the six part David Holdsworth thing in Summer? We got to part four then it disappeared!

Andy doesn’t ‘put it together’, I do. He scans it for spelling/grammar...


Dead right its a waste of bloody time Clibbins is so far down the pecking order there simply is no point.

Be much better to just tie him to a chair at the meeting and fire a dozen questions at him and if he doesn't answer within 20 seconds he gets a quick jab of 240 volts.

Giving him a week to answer and to refer to what he said 3 months ago is a complete and utter waste of everybody's time.
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21 Dec 2019 16:28 #114 by Bumble
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Sorry CCU, I worded that badly, I am trying very hard to ignore the radio commentary, cos we sound awful.

Maybe it's just me? I just found it very hard to read and take in so much info in one go, but I am off work with something that's had me stuck in bed for three days until today so maybe it's just me not functioning properly?

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21 Dec 2019 16:39 #115 by Mouldy
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My thoughts...

I took the approach of reading so much, then when I felt I’d read enough for the time being, I left it for later on. Read it over 3 sittings.

To put the quantity of info into perspective: the previous five CUSG meetings had differing numbers of questions. 20, 7, 5, 7, 11 page documents to be specific. It comes as no shock to me that the two most recent meetings have posed more lengthy documents given the hot topics - calling for managers head, managers subsequent dismissal, Lummy et al and their offer to help, Patty gate, continued EWM silence, underwhelming head coach, young star getting regular game time and attracting interest, cup money and potential transfer income and the use of it and pathetic team performances.

Those topics will always be talking points. This, combined with repetition of questions ‘how much to buy CUFC?’ for example has simply seen an increase in questions. Nobody is suggesting to have 30 page documents moving forward and simply an anomaly due to probing questions, in depth and lengthy answers.

I wouldn’t be a fan of splitting them purely because of the uproar when there was a delay in publishing answers last time - can’t put jam on both sides of your sarnie, so to speak. Also as CCU eludes, we’re still waiting for parts 5 and 6 of a feature the club last ‘broke down’, so would mean CCU splitting them down and he’s right, he’s got other stuff to do - someone has to merge all the threads, eh!

Loads of bed wetting going on for not much of a reason as far as I can see. Yes, it’s a big document, read it in stages if easier for you.

In other news, we’re shite.

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21 Dec 2019 17:41 #116 by Kessler
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NORTHERNSOUL wrote: And why would that be relevent ? You soft arsed little shit


Because you don't do shit like that. You don't like the BOD then fine, I don't like them either, but spouting your usual keyboard warrior bullshit is bang out of order.

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21 Dec 2019 18:00 #117 by NORTHERNSOUL
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Kessler wrote:

NORTHERNSOUL wrote: And why would that be relevent ? You soft arsed little shit


Because you don't do shit like that. You don't like the BOD then fine, I don't like them either, but spouting your usual keyboard warrior bullshit is bang out of order.


Is it shit

You do whatever it takes to get what you want

That day on Oystons lawn was brilliant the fans of a club taking control for once I went along because everyone knew it was going to kick off and plod losing their bottle just added to the excitement.

Jenkins in his front room window with that look of fear on his face is something every single fan who has the best interests of the club at heart should want.

Notice that you've still not answered the questions that you were asked regarding your real age and gender

Clearly something to hide

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21 Dec 2019 18:07 #118 by Kessler
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NORTHERNSOUL wrote: You do whatever it takes to get what you want


Maybe that's how it works in your fantasy world, but in the real world you follow the rules like everybody else whether you like it or not.

NORTHERNSOUL wrote: Jenkins in his front room window with that look of fear on his face is something every single fan who has the best interests of the club at heart should want.


That's rubbish. I want Jenkins and the rest of the BOD gone as I think they are killing the club, but we should be doing that through protests and boycotts. Not through trespass and intimidation. They are human beings at the end of the day who don't deserve that. I think fans should be taking direct action rather than just moaning, but to me "direct action" means organized protests, anti board chants, and a boycott, not the kind of nonsense you come out with.

NORTHERNSOUL wrote: Notice that you've still not answered the questions that you were asked regarding your real age and gender

Clearly something to hide


Do you really not understand why I won't give you my personal information considering the kind of threats you make? I'm fairly sure you're just a harmless fantasist but why take any unnecessary risks.

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21 Dec 2019 21:07 #119 by NORTHERNSOUL
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Kessler wrote:

NORTHERNSOUL wrote: You do whatever it takes to get what you want


Maybe that's how it works in your fantasy world, but in the real world you follow the rules like everybody else whether you like it or not.

NORTHERNSOUL wrote: Jenkins in his front room window with that look of fear on his face is something every single fan who has the best interests of the club at heart should want.


That's rubbish. I want Jenkins and the rest of the BOD gone as I think they are killing the club, but we should be doing that through protests and boycotts. Not through trespass and intimidation. They are human beings at the end of the day who don't deserve that. I think fans should be taking direct action rather than just moaning, but to me "direct action" means organized protests, anti board chants, and a boycott, not the kind of nonsense you come out with.

NORTHERNSOUL wrote: Notice that you've still not answered the questions that you were asked regarding your real age and gender

Clearly something to hide


Do you really not understand why I won't give you my personal information considering the kind of threats you make? I'm fairly sure you're just a harmless fantasist but why take any unnecessary risks.


Aye, of course, I am there's only one fantasist on here and that's you pretending that you're female in your twenties and a steward at BP But of course you cant prove any of it can you ?

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22 Dec 2019 08:26 #120 by CarlisleWhite
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Mouldy wrote: My thoughts...

calling for managers head, managers subsequent dismissal, Lummy et al and their offer to help, Patty gate, continued EWM silence, underwhelming head coach, young star getting regular game time and attracting interest, cup money and potential transfer income and the use of it and pathetic team performances.

Mouldy - but herein lays the problem - this is supposed to be a fans group to address problems for fans (the poor matchday experience for example). Most of the above are supporters chatter items that no CEO is going to allow a meaningful response to be issued to. Hence the pages and pages of waffle.
Needs a real rethink of what the group is for, or draw a line under it and accept Clibbens has hijacked it to achieve his aims.
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22 Dec 2019 08:40 #121 by Molly123
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Lifes too short guys, quit with the animosity please

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22 Dec 2019 10:46 - 22 Dec 2019 10:47 #122 by Mouldy
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Agreed CarlisleWhite, and CUSG does want to improve match day experience as an example. I am frustrated as anybody that this isn’t more productive and progressive - I’m of the opinion that there are some persons at the table just for the ‘in the know’ element and aren’t really interested in helping improve things. CCU and myself are of the differing view that if we fill the room with folks who want to help make a difference - it’ll start to make a difference. (I will add as well the other mods are very vocal through us, but live further afield). There is a review of the previous year scheduled for the next CUSG meeting and a summary of that’ll be published for all to see what is/has been done- some will say not enough, some will perhaps not realise certain things had been done.

If there are suggestions of what to target next year for fan improvements - I’m all ears and will take them to the table.

We shouldn’t limit CUSG to just improving match day experience for fans, IMO and CUFC want to use it to improve communications with fans alongside this. That has to be seen as a good thing IMO. We’re getting much more information now than vs 12 months ago - but I recognise certain questions can’t be answered without EWM input or go ahead which is frustrating. Surely that is an improvement for fans, too?

Yes, 30 odd pages is a lot to read and there are some lengthy answers. Yes, I think there are some questions repeated, not relevant to CUSG and could go direct from posters to relevant bodies etc. I honestly think, however, from being there for over a year now, that CUSG is slowly making progress forward to becoming a useful group. Hopefully over the next few months it’ll increase.

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22 Dec 2019 12:21 #123 by Dancingbear
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Mouldy we have a group of owners who a majority think are well past their sell by date in hoc to a entity that doesn’t talk to anyone publicly. They’ve appointed a almost universally disliked director of football who’s making important decisions who’s position is seen as untouchable. I personally feel that unless there are changes to that structure then it doesn’t really matter what a group of people who like going to meetings going to a meeting do. As you stated above that’s some not all of the members. The easiest way to get people to buy into the club is by results on the pitch. If that doesn’t start to happen things aren’t gonna get better.

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22 Dec 2019 12:36 #124 by CarlisleWhite
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Mouldy,
I have always thought you are to be appluaded for the approach, but this is the same as you set it out on day one of joining, and I just dont think you are getting anywhere at all.
Clibbens is a skilled operator at shielding the owners from direct flack (like he was at the dog botherers until he was no longer needed when they started doing well), to the extent that some on here find him honest and open just because he responds to e-mails, but that is part of his job and he says absolutley bugger all in his long winded responses.
I would suggest that most of the information that comes out is from other sources, such as someone hearing something, Lummy spilling the beans on the takeover, or the Trust letting something slip by mistake.
I just think that people are starting to think that the association with the group is getting to be seen like the Trust - in it for the buzz of "talking to the club".
Out of interest, what information do you think has come out from these meetings (stress again, not having a go).
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22 Dec 2019 12:49 #125 by Kessler
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CarlisleWhite wrote: Clibbens is a skilled operator at shielding the owners from direct flack (like he was at the dog botherers until he was no longer needed when they started doing well), to the extent that some on here find him honest and open just because he responds to e-mails, but that is part of his job and he says absolutley bugger all in his long winded responses.


This is the point I was trying to get at in my question about what the directors should be doing to engage. It's well known that if you contact Clibbens with any concerns you will get a response and be treated with respect. That's a good thing, but it should just be the normal standard expected. Because of how bad the relationship is between the owners and the supporters, Nigel gets a lot of credit simply because he's willing to communicate with us in a respectful manner, but this is something all directors should be doing as a matter of routine.

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22 Dec 2019 12:54 #126 by Kessler
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topstepwhinger wrote: What does it matter that you do not know Kes's or others' personal details.


Apparently it's a big thing for him that people can verify who they are. Ironically he's always saying that he can do/say what he likes but he expected me to do what he told me. I soon put him right!

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22 Dec 2019 14:36 #127 by NORTHERNSOUL
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Mouldy wrote: Agreed CarlisleWhite, and CUSG does want to improve match day experience as an example. I am frustrated as anybody that this isn’t more productive and progressive - I’m of the opinion that there are some persons at the table just for the ‘in the know’ element and aren’t really interested in helping improve things. CCU and myself are of the differing view that if we fill the room with folks who want to help make a difference - it’ll start to make a difference. (I will add as well the other mods are very vocal through us, but live further afield). There is a review of the previous year scheduled for the next CUSG meeting and a summary of that’ll be published for all to see what is/has been done- some will say not enough, some will perhaps not realise certain things had been done.

If there are suggestions of what to target next year for fan improvements - I’m all ears and will take them to the table.

We shouldn’t limit CUSG to just improving match day experience for fans, IMO and CUFC want to use it to improve communications with fans alongside this. That has to be seen as a good thing IMO. We’re getting much more information now than vs 12 months ago - but I recognise certain questions can’t be answered without EWM input or go ahead which is frustrating. Surely that is an improvement for fans, too?

Yes, 30 odd pages is a lot to read and there are some lengthy answers. Yes, I think there are some questions repeated, not relevant to CUSG and could go direct from posters to relevant bodies etc. I honestly think, however, from being there for over a year now, that CUSG is slowly making progress forward to becoming a useful group. Hopefully over the next few months it’ll increase.


Why the hell do you want to communicate with the likes of Jenkins, Holdsworth and Clibbins ? a blind 3 legged donkey can see that the club isn't going to be successful till these clowns are driven out so all you're doing is prolonging their tenure when the MB should be using its power and influence to get them out instead of helping them paper over the ever-widening cracks.

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22 Dec 2019 14:47 #128 by NORTHERNSOUL
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Kessler wrote:

CarlisleWhite wrote: Clibbens is a skilled operator at shielding the owners from direct flack (like he was at the dog botherers until he was no longer needed when they started doing well), to the extent that some on here find him honest and open just because he responds to e-mails, but that is part of his job and he says absolutley bugger all in his long winded responses.


This is the point I was trying to get at in my question about what the directors should be doing to engage. It's well known that if you contact Clibbens with any concerns you will get a response and be treated with respect. That's a good thing, but it should just be the normal standard expected. Because of how bad the relationship is between the owners and the supporters, Nigel gets a lot of credit simply because he's willing to communicate with us in a respectful manner, but this is something all directors should be doing as a matter of routine.


Respectful Manner ?? He.s a condescending Yorkshire [censored] who.s so full of his own importance and big words and so desperate to hang on to his job he.ll do and say whatever those above him tell him to. Huddersfield saw thru him eventually its time CUFC did too.

But who can blame him there arent many 85K CEO jobs in non-league are there?

As I say it would be much more productive to have him sat in a chair mastermind style and have a dozen questions fired at him that demand an instant answer rather than giving him a week to look back over his previous answers, get some big words from his dictionary and then get Kevin the scaffolder to approve it all.

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22 Dec 2019 14:53 #129 by NORTHERNSOUL
Replied by NORTHERNSOUL on topic CUSG Meeting - Mon 16 Dec 19

Kessler wrote:

topstepwhinger wrote: What does it matter that you do not know Kes's or others' personal details.


Apparently it's a big thing for him that people can verify who they are. Ironically he's always saying that he can do/say what he likes but he expected me to do what he told me. I soon put him right!


Oh you think you have do you well I .ll tell you what you lying little shit i.ll be here a long time after you're found out for what you are and gone.

There is absolutely no reason on this earth that you cant confirm your age and gender

And give us the usernames of 3 top level posters on here who know you personally away from the board and who would be willing to vouch for you.

Unless of course theres a reason you cant ?

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22 Dec 2019 15:15 #130 by Kessler
Replied by Kessler on topic CUSG Meeting - Mon 16 Dec 19

NORTHERNSOUL wrote: There is absolutely no reason on this earth that you cant confirm your age and gender


Yes there is. I'm fairly sure you're just a fantasist but in case you aren't, I don't want you to have the chance to carry out some of the threats you say on here. Why the hell would I give my details to someone who has made the sort of threats you have? I don't want to have to worry about that. You really don't like that do you?

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22 Dec 2019 15:38 #131 by NORTHERNSOUL
Replied by NORTHERNSOUL on topic CUSG Meeting - Mon 16 Dec 19

Kessler wrote:

NORTHERNSOUL wrote: There is absolutely no reason on this earth that you cant confirm your age and gender


Yes there is. I'm fairly sure you're just a fantasist but in case you aren't, I don't want you to have the chance to carry out some of the threats you say on here. Why the hell would I give my details to someone who has made the sort of threats you have? I don't want to have to worry about that. You really don't like that do you?


So how exactly does posting your age and gender or having senior board members verify your real identity increase the likelihood of that happening then?

What don't I like?

You're just a slight inconvenience to me nothing more a bit like when you step in dog shit and carry it inside on your shoes. Yeah, dogshit just about sums you up. But you're right I really do detest people who hide behind messageboard names and say things they're wouldn't dare in the pub on a Friday night.

Don't you think it's strange that not one of the thousand members on here have come forward and said oh i know her shes that looky leftie with pictures of Jeremy Corbyn in her front window who brings down the tone of our street.

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22 Dec 2019 15:41 #132 by Kessler
Replied by Kessler on topic CUSG Meeting - Mon 16 Dec 19

NORTHERNSOUL wrote: So how exactly does posting your age and gender or having senior board members verify your real identity increase the likelihood of that happening then?


Ok Barry

NORTHERNSOUL wrote: You're just a slight inconvenience to me nothing more a bit like when you step in dog shit and carry it inside on your shoes. Yeah, dogshit just about sums you up. But you're right I really do detest people who hide behind messageboard names and say things they're wouldn't dare in the pub on a Friday night.


Ok Barry

NORTHERNSOUL wrote: Don't you think it's strange that not one of the thousand members on here have come forward and said oh i know her shes that looky leftie with pictures of Jeremy Corbyn in her front window who brings down the tone of our street.


Nope.

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