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29 Sep 2018 15:23 - 29 Sep 2018 15:25 #51 by NORTHERNSOUL
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CarlisleWhite wrote: So Mouldy, do you think anything has been acheived?
On the face of it, not a sausage as far as I can see.
Just comes across as a talking shop, which we all know means Clibbens is like a pig in brown stuff.


Exactly............ Time to pull the plug and tell the useless tw.ats why and put the efforts into making this site work properly again.
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29 Sep 2018 15:40 #52 by Mouldy
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CarlisleWhite wrote: So Mouldy, do you think anything has been acheived?
On the face of it, not a sausage as far as I can see.
Just comes across as a talking shop, which we all know means Clibbens is like a pig in brown stuff.


Admittedly I’ve only been to two meetings this time round and the tester one last time when claire winder was chairing it.

I have seen a lot of minutes that cover the same topic with very little progress. I think it’s important to either progress items or forget them. There are of course issues that CUSG will not be solely responsible for moving forward - scoreboard etc.

It’s important to remember when the group is for. Communication to and from fans.

I think it has perhaps fallen foul historically of not doing that, the first meeting we went to there didn’t seem to be any feedback from the relative groups, I think CUSAT even made a passing comment of ‘we dont represent anybody’. If that’s that case one of two things needs to happen:

1) all group reps need to start communicating
2) disband because it is then just a talking shop

This last meeting seemed a lot more progressive than the first we attended - Simon actually moved subjects on when we were digressing too far off point which was needed. We have movement on away disabled shelter which London branch are going to fund whilst Barry Carter applies for the 20k premier league trust funding for all disabled facility areas to be revamped. The first meeting saw no chat of how to raise further funds to indeed help with the wishlist - with no money, how can you really help progress any? This time round there was chat about fundraising.

I don’t think it’s the finished article, far from it. But I think with the right people and the right attitude from the people it can be very positive and beneficial.

Ps Barry, no issues on my browsers both mobile and desktop. Clear your cache perhaps?

all views my own

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29 Sep 2018 15:47 #53 by CarlisleWhite
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Mouldy,
Thanks for the response - can't say I am any more convinced.
You say "It’s important to remember when the group is for. Communication to and from fans".
If that's the case, why so much emphasis on implementing the items from the wishlist.
I thought it was to improve the fans matchday experience, when the aim above seems not.
Just seems like a typical CUFC buggers muddle.

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29 Sep 2018 16:03 #54 by CCU
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To add to what Mouldy has said, we’ve only been represented at two Meetings (I could only make the first of those), and think it’s only fair to give it a couple more (Think there will be two more this calendar year) to get a fairer look/feel at how things progress or not.

One thing I’m glad folk are happy with, is that you all know we’ll ask any Question raised by you lot on here, or by email. Some are directly asked, others maybe more inputted during discussions on certain topics, but rest assured all are put to the table.

My own opinion, the basic idea of CUSG isn’t a bad one, but maybe needs tweaking a touch. I think 2/3 Reps a Group is too many, but respect that CUSG has a set constitution.

Win or Lose, Up The Blues!

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29 Sep 2018 16:56 #55 by NORTHERNSOUL
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CarlisleWhite wrote: Mouldy,
Thanks for the response - can't say I am any more convinced.
You say "It’s important to remember when the group is for. Communication to and from fans".
If that's the case, why so much emphasis on implementing the items from the wishlist.
I thought it was to improve the fans matchday experience, when the aim above seems not.
Just seems like a typical CUFC buggers muddle.


Much better to set up an independent group come up with a list of things you want done and what you plan to do about it if they dont implement them immediately.

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29 Sep 2018 21:20 #56 by munchymagic
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Another question I would like asked if possible please.

In the modern game we all scorn the 'football agent' so why are we paying Holdsworth a wage because that is all he basically is.

Surely we already have people in place to deal with contracts with Nixon and Clibbens and if they are not up to this task then why are they still here?

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29 Sep 2018 23:53 #57 by CCU
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It’s fairly obvious that DH is more than any ‘Director of Football’...

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30 Sep 2018 00:55 #58 by munchymagic
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CCU wrote: It’s fairly obvious that DH is more than any ‘Director of Football’...


Unless you ask the question though they will not answer it.

Holdsworth needs to prove himself as he has done nothing of any note in the past, coming in and slagging of a more successful regime was pathetic.

More meat on the bones to his actual duties would be a start but that would mean he would have to come out with things that Clibbens or Nixon should be doing.

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30 Sep 2018 10:45 #59 by Bumble
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I went to the match yesterday and got stopped at least half a dozen times by folk, who had got the wrong end of the stick re the statement on the CUSG minutes.

"Sunset Suite memorabilia
Barbara Abbott and the Cumberland News were now involved with the project."

To clarify; after I expressed an interest in the club history, Mouldy put my name forward for this. The work of putting everything together had already been done but I was asked if I had any photos I could give them. I have thrown a huge amount out but still had a few which I thought might be suitable so passed them on, nothing more than that, I am looking forward to seeing the finished project when it's done.

I haven't joined CUSG, it's not something you can join. If folk want to make a point, have a sugestion, the best bet is let the moderators on here know (they will have a thread set up before the next meeting) and they will pass it on.

Misunderstanding 2: A little while ago I was looking for a reliable printers and one I was using gave me the offer of three large canvasses/acryllics at a rediuclously low price to show off their work. I had to send for the first within a couple of days so sent them a photo from a game, nothing special but an ok celebration shot. When it came I was pleased enough with the quality and offered it to the club to fill up a blank wall in the Sunset until the history stuff was finished, so it's nothing to do with the project, just a random canvas. When the History project is done, the club can move it somewhere else, bin it, or leave it where it is. It was just a case of killing two birds with one stone, I got to see the quality of the firms work and the club got a print to fill a blank bit of wall. I'm not "back working at the club". Mark Fuller does an excellent job at the home games and the club prefers to use other folk at away games which is absolutely their perogative. I work for the paper and anyone else that pays me :)

3) I will not be applying/do not want the job of SLO. The reason I have been posting a lot about it is I think it's a really important job. One of the few chances the club has to build bridges, to try and bring all the factions together could reverse some of the negativity and apathy that lies so thick on the ground at the moment.

If circumstances were different and no one else stood up for the job, yes, I would give it a try but I can't because I work at most away games and that would make the job impossible. It has to be some one who hasn't anything else to think about on a match day both home and away.

Pheww, sorry about that all about me post. Just so much easier writing it once on here than repeating it a dozen times at a match.
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