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31 May 2019 08:33 #401 by jakeyblain
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Bluedevil wrote:

MerseysideBlue wrote: I'd heard a suggestion recently that the reason for these one year deals is that they don't want anyone on a deal longer than the manager.

Surely that is the whole point in having the bloke from the Milk Tray advert as Director of Football - it gives continuity beyond the life spell of the manager.


I could have believed that under Curle but not Pressley.
I was told on very good authority that Curle had it in his contract that no player would be on longer deals than him and NO player was paid more than him. Pressley I understand is a lot more flexible on this kind of thing, and as long as he gets the players he needs/wants then will settle for what they are offered.
And if true, then its going to be interesting how long Pressley will put up with this nonsense.


Strange that because Hope, Etuhu, and Parkes were all on longer deals than Curle...
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31 May 2019 08:41 #402 by Markovitch
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Please can we have some wild and unfounded speculation on whom these players are? Bored with no football and there is only so much mileage in slagging off Farage.

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31 May 2019 20:42 #403 by HuntingHorn
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Here's some wild and I pray to God unfounded rumour fir you....

The striker Holdsworth has mentioned in the latest update is 36yr old Jermaine Beckford.

I read it earlier. I hope to christ it isn't.
One disinterested spell here was enough, imagine paying him a contract to act like a spoilt brat bigtime charly!

It's better to be silent and assumed a fool than to speak and remove all doubt

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31 May 2019 20:56 #404 by munchymagic
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HuntingHorn wrote: Here's some wild and I pray to God unfounded rumour fir you....

The striker Holdsworth has mentioned in the latest update is 36yr old Jermaine Beckford.

I read it earlier. I hope to christ it isn't.
One disinterested spell here was enough, imagine paying him a contract to act like a spoilt brat bigtime charly!


Granted that he knows where the net is but at 36 Beckford would probably adapt well to Holdsworths ethics and would snap his hand off at a week-by-week contract, because Holdsworth will point out that as a club 'we have been hurt emotionally and financially in the past'.

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31 May 2019 20:59 #405 by munchymagic
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Hope this is just a rumour because we will be replacing that crock Cullen for an old man sulky striker.

I hardly call either move 'safe' in any aspect, both gambles.

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31 May 2019 22:11 - 31 May 2019 22:12 #406 by CCU
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The sole base for this Beckford rumour is one of those random Twitter Transfer accounts.



Probably happen then!!!

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31 May 2019 22:18 #407 by nobbyblue
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Bit of a crock now. 45 games in four seasons. Only one last season v Carlisle!

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31 May 2019 22:25 #408 by munchymagic
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Makes you wonder how hard they are trying to fail.

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31 May 2019 23:07 - 31 May 2019 23:11 #409 by seesaw50
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Bluedevil wrote:

seesaw50 wrote: And hes going on for 36 now ...risk at the very least.


Seem to remember he didn't pull up any trees when he was here on loan, although respect to the lad he didn't celebrate in front of our fans when he scored whilst playing for Scunny.


I was at that game...he came on after half time I think and I said to the lad I was with you know what's gonna happen here....and yeah he scored. He was poor for us then and hes not the young pacey player we need.
Thomas out of the frame as well for a return.
All quiet as said

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01 Jun 2019 00:06 #410 by Cufc94
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Not being funny but anyone with half a brain cell must know this hasn’t got any legs. It goes against what Pressley has said in terms of the squad he’s trying to build and would Holdsworth really want a 36 year old crock with the sort of wages he’d be demanding? Let’s move on, this is a none story. Think everyone needs to get a life for the summer and forget about Carlisle for a little while, let Pressley do his business and we’ll judge him on that.
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01 Jun 2019 00:38 #411 by munchymagic
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"Think everyone needs to get a life for the summer and forget about Carlisle for a little while"

:D :D :D :D

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01 Jun 2019 01:01 #412 by Cufc94
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Haha I’m serious Munchy! We’ve signed three players, there are some teams who’ve yet to make signings! Let’s enjoy our break, no doubt we’ll be put through the ringer again next season!

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01 Jun 2019 01:12 #413 by munchymagic
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Cufc94 wrote: Haha I’m serious Munchy! We’ve signed three players, there are some teams who’ve yet to make signings! Let’s enjoy our break, no doubt we’ll be put through the ringer again next season!


No doubt we will.

Just doubting the proven quality he is signing though, nothing amazing as yet and we have lost/losing better players than he is currently bringing in.
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01 Jun 2019 07:27 #414 by CCU
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01 Jun 2019 09:29 #415 by bruntonpete
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So they do read the message board! At least they are responding which is good. On official site they say they have made him a very good offer which isn't what others have said on here. Hopefully the length of contract isn't the stumbling block as, for some players, you need to just break that mould.

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01 Jun 2019 10:18 #416 by aberdeenblue28
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The club are throwing Keith Curle under a bus again in that article. It’s seemingly his fault that we are on the burden of bankruptcy. Keith Curle actually tried to get us promotion but is criticised by many on here and the board for spending money. We would’ve been up but for that lucky goal by Stacy who couldn’t have done that again if he tried. Keith Curle actually had ambition but now it’s his fault for even trying to bring in top players on high wages. Would've Lincoln’s board thrown the Cowleys under the bus like our owners have if they didn’t get up and almost bankrupted the club?
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01 Jun 2019 10:57 #417 by nobbyblue
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So according to Holdsworth we should have a fantastic squad next season when we're not hamstrung by Keith and his crazy ways.

I'm looking forward to that.

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01 Jun 2019 11:12 #418 by Waltero
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I reckon Holdsworth's out of his depth. Talks the talk with no end result.
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01 Jun 2019 11:13 #419 by Waltero
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further more he should stop bad-mouthing Curle

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01 Jun 2019 12:20 #420 by crunchblue
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Clibbens “The manager and David know how they want to manage the squad, and that includes timing and length of offers, and all of that kind of stuff. They’re very much footballing decisions and judgements are done in good faith and in the best interests of the club.”

So that pretty much confirms the rumours that we’re only willing to give him a 1 year deal.

Bye Jamie.
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01 Jun 2019 12:48 #421 by The Archer
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aberdeenblue28 wrote: The club are throwing Keith Curle under a bus again in that article. It’s seemingly his fault that we are on the burden of bankruptcy. Keith Curle actually tried to get us promotion but is criticised by many on here and the board for spending money. We would’ve been up but for that lucky goal by Stacy who couldn’t have done that again if he tried. Keith Curle actually had ambition but now it’s his fault for even trying to bring in top players on high wages. Would've Lincoln’s board thrown the Cowleys under the bus like our owners have if they didn’t get up and almost bankrupted the club?


The only people to blame for blowing the budget and more are the custodians. Just like they allowed Kavanagh to sign any Tom, Dick or Harry, they should have prevented the crazy bonus schemes and forced KC to stick to the budget.

My gripe with Curie is not that he overshot his budget, but the way he wasted much of it. Richie Bennett, James Bailey, John O’Sullivan, Shaun Brisley, Cole Stockton, that French fella (can’t even recall his name) he blew our crowdfunded money on etc!
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01 Jun 2019 13:24 #422 by bruntonpete
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Yes he can be blamed for some players brought in that's fair enough. Many of those mentioned were not good enough but it seems he is getting the blame for everything by the club which is grossly unfair.
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01 Jun 2019 13:41 #423 by crunchblue
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David Holdsworth drove over a pot hole in Gretna today and buggered his wheel. He blames Keith Curle.

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01 Jun 2019 14:35 #424 by aberdeenblue28
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The Archer wrote: that French fella (can’t even recall his name) he blew our crowdfunded money on etc!


Junior Joachim. We also signed illustrious figures such as Luis Pedro who after his one game with us never played in England again. James Hooper who nows plays for salford was one and George Waring who was worse than Bennett.

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01 Jun 2019 14:50 #425 by CCU
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Hooper moved to Chorley in the Autumn.

Don’t forget Joe Ward, who quit football after a couple of weeks here!

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01 Jun 2019 14:51 #426 by nobbyblue
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What about Wyke, Jones, Jabo, Kennedy, Adams, Asamoah, Joyce, Kelvin, Hope, Devitt, Liddle, Parkes and Clint Hill. And the likes of Tom Miller, Raynes and Reggie did a job.

You've very selective memory some of you lot.
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01 Jun 2019 14:52 - 01 Jun 2019 14:52 #427 by CCU
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That’s about 20%!

Anyways, Curle is history, been gone a year, move on...

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01 Jun 2019 14:56 #428 by nobbyblue
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You started it.
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01 Jun 2019 15:22 #429 by CCU
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nobbyblue wrote: You started it.


I’m not in Aberdeen!

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01 Jun 2019 15:29 #430 by munchymagic
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We are always going to be interested in what ex-managers do, just like with ex-players there is a fascination with fans as to gauge their success - just how it is.

Hard to move on from Keith Curle though as we are preparing for our second season when he is not the manager, there was a fairly successful manager after Curle and now we have Pressley yet Holdsworth brings him up at every single opportunity, we need to move on but the man is obsessed.

Holdsworth vented about him when he got the job but a year later he is still going on about it, poor form.

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01 Jun 2019 15:30 #431 by CCU
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Hard to move on? You’ve got a cardboard cut out of him haven’t you!

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01 Jun 2019 15:35 - 01 Jun 2019 15:36 #432 by aberdeenblue28
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I’m not in Aberdeen I’m just from there. And I was a big fan of keith
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01 Jun 2019 15:40 #433 by munchymagic
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CCU wrote: Hard to move on? You’ve got a cardboard cut out of him haven’t you!


Haha.

Never met him, and no I am not the bloke with 'that' tattoo either :)

Not too impressed with Pressley at all so far, as I said previously Keith can do a job for you if you are rock bottom of the league so lets hope that we do not require his services like last time.

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01 Jun 2019 17:37 #434 by crunchblue
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CCU wrote:
Anyways, Curle is history, been gone a year, move on...


Try telling that to David Holdsworth.
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03 Jun 2019 08:36 #435 by pacirv
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Reading what Holdsworth has said about Hallam Hope it sounds a bit like we are struggling to get players to sign with what we are offering, team going to be full of quality for next season by the sounds of it.

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03 Jun 2019 08:37 #436 by nobbyblue
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What's Holdsworth said about Hope?

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03 Jun 2019 08:41 #437 by Zebby
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nobbyblue wrote: What's Holdsworth said about Hope?


We haven't got much !

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03 Jun 2019 08:52 - 03 Jun 2019 08:53 #438 by CCU
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03 Jun 2019 10:17 #439 by carwash
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Sounds like Hallam could be off to Port Vale (Vale Park 525 feet above sea level) or Oldham (Boundary Park 509 feet above sea level) to play at the highest level possible as WBA would be too high a step up. There are a lot of clubs within an hour's drive of Manchester which might be interested in him purely on his goal scoring record.
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03 Jun 2019 10:36 #440 by Waltero
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Carlisle 95ft above sea level

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03 Jun 2019 10:51 #441 by lummy8
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What the club terms as "a very good offer" doesn't necessarily mean the player, staff, agent think its a good offer, but this happens in every club.

Right back to my day, the club will offer you what they think is an appropriate deal, players will agree or disagree.

I do feel a bit for footballing staff and players, the budget is obviously being cut again, so what can they do but offer lower contracts. The annoying thing is why did it all have to come to this, but we all seen it coming.

Curle should not be getting any stick for spending big, neither should Kav, their signings can be questioned and picked at, but every manager would spend what they can.

We would never have got Adams, Devitt, Wyke, Kennedy etc if the bonus/incentive scheme was not put in place by Curle, the board could have said no, christ we were getting to the point where directors were happy for an opposition equaliser!

I think DH is in the firing line at the min, but what can he actually do if his bosses are telling him he cant spend this or offer that.
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03 Jun 2019 11:09 #442 by Waltero
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He can sod off((take Clibbens with him) and release their salaries for players
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03 Jun 2019 11:22 #443 by Mullen103
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lummy8 wrote: What the club terms as "a very good offer" doesn't necessarily mean the player, staff, agent think its a good offer, but this happens in every club.

Right back to my day, the club will offer you what they think is an appropriate deal, players will agree or disagree.

I do feel a bit for footballing staff and players, the budget is obviously being cut again, so what can they do but offer lower contracts. The annoying thing is why did it all have to come to this, but we all seen it coming.

Curle should not be getting any stick for spending big, neither should Kav, their signings can be questioned and picked at, but every manager would spend what they can.

We would never have got Adams, Devitt, Wyke, Kennedy etc if the bonus/incentive scheme was not put in place by Curle, the board could have said no, christ we were getting to the point where directors were happy for an opposition equaliser!

I think DH is in the firing line at the min, but what can he actually do if his bosses are telling him he cant spend this or offer that.


Yep - but we were called disruptors/bet wetters and worse.

Carlisle United is far better than this. We get told from the owners they are the best people to run the club and it's been ran well ???? We are now getting Scottish tat and conference players. We can talk about succession plans etc but the only way this club is going to survive is by a full takeover - obviously something the owners don't want or theyd be shouting about it.

I'm not bothered if the players offered contracts go, they aren't that good anyway. However, we tend to replace by getting even worse and if the manager thinks there are good enough and wants them well. What isn't good it that it looks like every player offered a contract is going to refuse it, this will show the club in a really bad light and make it obvious the contract offers are piss poor!

At least we’re not Stockport
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03 Jun 2019 11:48 - 03 Jun 2019 11:48 #444 by CCU
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15 goals last Season (From a wider position in the front three). Minimum of £250k please...

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03 Jun 2019 12:31 #445 by ParcelPete
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CCU wrote:


Katmando united are looking for a striker but think Hope has a bad altitude.
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03 Jun 2019 13:13 #446 by Dancingbear
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ParcelPete wrote:

CCU wrote:


Katmando united are looking for a striker but think Hope has a bad altitude.


Will you Everest Pete.

There's only one way of life and that's your own!!!
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03 Jun 2019 15:26 #447 by Zebby
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Too late I'm afraid the lads already peaked.

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03 Jun 2019 16:56 #448 by Laffy
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Looks like a pincer movement by the Club and Agent to punt him today.

He’s at the right level in my view-good on his day but inconsistent and one footed.

We might get a few quid for him so if he wants to go....
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03 Jun 2019 17:08 #449 by Markovitch
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He is a player that when you look at his individual skills he ought to be playing much higher up the league but somehow the sum of the parts seem to be much less than you would expect. Heard an unreliable rumour is he is on a very good package, let him go if he is desperate

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03 Jun 2019 17:08 #450 by seesaw50
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Yes he'd have been at a higher level already ......possibly

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