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05 May 2019 14:54 #1 by paddockite
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Anyone go up and watch them?

In fantastic form at the moment, 14 wins in last 20 games, just 3 losses.

Stenhousemuir in the play offs, 1st leg on Tuesday.

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05 May 2019 14:56 #2 by CCU
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Hoping to go on Tuesday, should be a decent game, been strong at home of late have Annan...

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05 May 2019 15:43 #3 by Piglet_Phoenix
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I'd prefer Murphy as our manager rather than Pressley.

To achieve a win % of nearly 43% at a village club (with all due respect) like Annan is impressive.

In fact, he has a higher win % stat than Pressley has achieved at any of his last four clubs.
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05 May 2019 16:59 #4 by orfc
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See at the other end of the table Berwick are now in a playoff with Cove Rangers who won the Highland League. What happens if Berwick lose? Lowland league or do they have to find an english league?

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05 May 2019 17:03 - 05 May 2019 17:03 #5 by Mush
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Piglet I get what you're saying but I'd imagine league 2 is a bit different than the Scottish League 2.
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05 May 2019 17:09 #6 by orfc
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Having a sniff around pie and bovril to see what happens to berwick if they get relegated and one of their fans has posted this...

"While we've been drifting, especially in the last couple of years, other clubs have woken up to what's going on elsewhere (especially around the Lowland and Highland leagues) and got off their backsides and done something about it. They realised that even at our level you need money, and they found a way to bring in more money. At Berwick, though, the old board decided that we should live within our means (rather than calculate how much money we needed and then work out how to go about raising it). Hence the cut in the playing budget,"

www.pieandbovril.com/forum/index.php?/to...ent&comment=12897129

Sounds strangely familiar....
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05 May 2019 17:15 #7 by CCU
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orfc wrote: See at the other end of the table Berwick are now in a playoff with Cove Rangers who won the Highland League. What happens if Berwick lose? Lowland league or do they have to find an english league?


Lowland League...

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05 May 2019 17:25 #8 by Piglet_Phoenix
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The basics of football management are the same wherever you manage.

Ask yourselves, what level was Alan Ashman managing at before we gave him an opportunity?

For Murphy to build a successful side at a club like Annan tells its own story. Of course it's a different league to Division Four, but that's entirely missing the point.

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05 May 2019 17:35 - 05 May 2019 17:38 #9 by Mush
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Most fans would probably prefer Murphy to Pressley thinking about it.

If we start crap next season Pressley's has to go.
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05 May 2019 17:46 - 05 May 2019 17:48 #10 by nobbyblue
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Queen of the South might be interested in Murphy.

Strange goings on at Palmerston. They got beat 3-0 at home yesterday and dropped into play off place to go down.

They must have lost faith in manager as they quickly sacked him! Players aren't happy apparently. Play off is against Montrose on Tuesday.

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05 May 2019 17:52 #11 by munchymagic
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Mush wrote: Most fans would probably prefer Murphy to Pressley thinking about it.

If we start crap next season Pressley's has to go.


The worry is if he signs/loans crap players then we are screwed.

The poor sod is telling himself that he and the players have done a good job in his time there by going from fourth to eleventh.
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05 May 2019 18:08 #12 by Wukkie
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Would Berwick be better off applying for the Northern League rather than go to the Lowland League.

It is in England after all.

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05 May 2019 18:22 #13 by Mouldy
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I go up regularly. Sponsor them this season.

Good little set up and to be honest some of the football is OK. Murphy sets a team up well and wants them to play the right way.


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05 May 2019 18:23 #14 by munchymagic
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Wukkie wrote: Would Berwick be better off applying for the Northern League rather than go to the Lowland League.

It is in England after all.


They hate this fact and consider themselves Scottish although the folk I know from there spoke Geordie.

I would be more than amazed if they thought of entering the English league system, basically Gretna weren't bothered about it but Berwick are.

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05 May 2019 18:33 #15 by Markovitch
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Annan are top of the form table in L2. Berwick have lost their last 6 scoring none and conceding 21. Queens should beat Montrose but questions have to be asked, finishing below Alloa

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05 May 2019 18:36 #16 by orfc
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Weirdly, the lowland league contains a team called edusport academy who take in French youth players and groundshare currently at Annan, so Berwick will be back there next season. And they get to play Gretna 2008 too.

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05 May 2019 19:14 #17 by Carlisleprogrammes
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Berwick will drop into the Lowland League which would mean Dalbeattie Star will be relegated along with bottom placed Whitehall Welfare (already relegated)

As Selkirk went bust early on both teams can re apply for the vacancy

Most people agree Cove will beat Berwick easy

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05 May 2019 21:11 #18 by Mr Quint
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Regarding Annan, what a team. Steven Swindlehurst is some competitor. Real heart and spirit.

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05 May 2019 21:26 #19 by NORTHERNSOUL
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Mush wrote: Most fans would probably prefer Murphy to Pressley thinking about it.

If we start crap next season Pressley's has to go.


I.d prefer Roger the [censored] Rabbit to Reg Pressley

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06 May 2019 05:20 #20 by Markovitch
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Or Jessica rabbit. Just saying like

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06 May 2019 11:10 #21 by Lakelandterrier
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Piglet_Phoenix wrote: I'd prefer Murphy as our manager rather than Pressley.

To achieve a win % of nearly 43% at a village club (with all due respect) like Annan is impressive.

In fact, he has a higher win % stat than Pressley has achieved at any of his last four clubs.



And his team are playing other village teams.

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06 May 2019 11:15 - 06 May 2019 11:17 #22 by Lakelandterrier
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Piglet_Phoenix wrote: The basics of football management are the same wherever you manage.

Ask yourselves, what level was Alan Ashman managing at before we gave him an opportunity?

For Murphy to build a successful side at a club like Annan tells its own story. Of course it's a different league to Division Four, but that's entirely missing the point.


What success have the village team had?

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06 May 2019 11:16 - 06 May 2019 11:20 #23 by CCU
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I’d hardly call Glasgow and Edinburgh villages!

Coatbridge and Cumbernauld aren’t exactly small either...

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07 May 2019 01:01 #24 by Piglet_Phoenix
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Scottish League Two by population:

598,000 Queen's Park
482,000 Edinburgh City
94,000 Stirling
52,000 Cumbernauld (Clyde)
50,000 Elgin
43,000 Coatbridge (Albion)
18,000 Peterhead
14,000 Cowdenbeath
12,000 Berwick
10,000 Annan

Merely keeping them in the league at all is an achievement.

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07 May 2019 02:06 #25 by Urban Designer
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Sterling's real population is 36k - its like saying Carlisle's population is 110,000 when it's really about 75k.

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07 May 2019 08:13 #26 by Dancingbear
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Raheem?

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07 May 2019 08:54 #27 by Markovitch
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Moss? Stirling albion however have been shit for many years. A team that really ought to be doing better considering the population of the area

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07 May 2019 14:09 #28 by pie
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Is population of the area a key driver of success in Scottish football? It would presumably help with bigger crowds but given gate receipts need to be helped along with TV money / owners cash (in England anyway) - does it really make any difference nowadays how big a town a team comes from?

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07 May 2019 15:09 #29 by Dancingbear
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At that level it prob depends how many they get through the gate and local sponsorship. Population doesn’t matter if non of them go and watch the team.

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07 May 2019 16:03 #30 by Urban Designer
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We complain about Carlisle's crowds but we have one of the smallest populations in the football league.

Many towns in even League 2 have populations 2 or 3 times of ours.

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07 May 2019 16:04 #31 by clarkie4000
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It has an effect if you're the biggest team in that town - doesn't much help Queens Park or Partick Thistle being from Glasgow.

Some of the biggest towns in Scotland are New Towns, so being from a big place hasn't helped them as the club has often moved from elsewhere or is quite new - such as Clyde in Cumbernauld (moved from east end of Glasgow) or Livingston (formally Meadowbank Thistle from Edinburgh). When Rangers play at Livingston, three of the stands are given to the away side - probably mostly locals.

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07 May 2019 16:20 - 07 May 2019 16:21 #32 by Markovitch
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Scottish football is all about Rangers and Celtic. More people from Inverness travel by bus to watch the big 2 than stay in the city to watch Caley. And it's the same everywhere. Buses from Perth, Blairgowrie, Alyth all going every week to Glasgow. I doubt Livingston locals get tickets unless they are regulars. Home and away tickets are sold weeks in advance to those who go every week. Probably one of the towns least affected would be Dumfries but it only has a population of 50k and that part of Scotland is suffering terribly with the economy. If the results go the right way over the next weeks Queens and Annan could be in the same league next year
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07 May 2019 20:39 #33 by paddockite
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Annan 2-0 Stenhousemuir HT.

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07 May 2019 21:17 #34 by Happyblue
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Urban Designer wrote: We complain about Carlisle's crowds but we have one of the smallest populations in the football league.

Many towns in even League 2 have populations 2 or 3 times of ours.

We also happen to have a huge catchment zone and no other football League clubs anywhere near , when you actually look at the population of our catchment zone we actually it's not one of the smallest, also we don't have to split our fan base with a bigger club.

Owners like the stadium, full of Sh!T

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07 May 2019 21:19 #35 by Dancingbear
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Happyblue wrote:

Urban Designer wrote: We complain about Carlisle's crowds but we have one of the smallest populations in the football league.

Many towns in even League 2 have populations 2 or 3 times of ours.

We also happen to have a huge catchment zone and no other football League clubs anywhere near , when you actually look at the population of our catchment zone we actually it's not one of the smallest, also we don't have to split our fan base with a bigger club.


How come I know more Liverpool and Man Utd fans than I do Carlisle fans then?

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07 May 2019 21:25 #36 by carwash
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Urban Designer wrote: We complain about Carlisle's crowds but we have one of the smallest populations in the football league.

Many towns in even League 2 have populations 2 or 3 times of ours.


True but if you compare Carlisle with towns of a similar size such as Shrewsbury and Burton-on-Trent or even Burnley, you could argue we should be doing much better.

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07 May 2019 21:31 - 07 May 2019 21:32 #37 by nobbyblue
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Hardly anybody in Carlisle is interested in football for some reason.
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07 May 2019 22:18 #38 by Markovitch
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A few of us were at Galabank. Annan played some great football in the first half, totally overwhelmed Stenhousemuir. Very impressive.

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07 May 2019 22:46 #39 by Bluedevil
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nobbyblue wrote: Hardly anybody in Carlisle is interested in football for some reason.


Most of the Carlisle population is interested in football, its just unfortunate that very few of them know where Brunton Park actually is.
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08 May 2019 10:27 #40 by thetashkentterror
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nobbyblue wrote: Hardly anybody in Carlisle is interested in football for some reason.


They are interested, the problem is that they're all plastic Liverpool and Man Utd tossers.
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09 May 2019 08:49 #41 by franksidebottom
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Carlisle and Cumbria in general isn’t a footballing area.

I’d like to know what percentage of our 4,000 average home support are actually from the city, always suspected it’s around an even split between folk actually living in Carlisle and folk living in the surrounding areas (West Cumbria, Eden Valley and south-west Scotland).

In reality our home support as a percentage of city population is likely to be very low.

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09 May 2019 10:31 #42 by Markovitch
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Out of interest Frank how many games do you attend? As a fan of a rival lower league team do you think a lot of neutrals attend BP?

What's the scoop with Jack Ross? On his way to Dundee if Sunderland don't go up? Dylan McGeouch desperate to get out, would like to see him in a blue shirt but I imagine we couldn't get near his wages

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09 May 2019 12:42 #43 by clarkie4000
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I imagine he's on a good wage. Great player through

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10 May 2019 15:55 #44 by Markovitch
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Peter Murphy supposedly lined up to be the manager at palmerston next season if queen's don't win tomorrow

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10 May 2019 16:03 - 10 May 2019 16:08 #45 by SeepBladder
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QoS changed their manager last week. Alan Johnston took over from Naismith.

Was it a temporary appointment?

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10 May 2019 17:48 #46 by CCU
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Their O/S suggests Johnston is Manager, no mention of any length of contract...

www.qosfc.com/news-4541

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10 May 2019 19:36 #47 by Markovitch
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Chat I heard is that his contract is for 2 years if he keeps them up. If he doesn't they'll interview. Sandy Clark his assistant so a Sandy and Alan dream team for those who follow Scottish football

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10 May 2019 21:39 #48 by SeepBladder
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Markovitch wrote: Chat I heard is that his contract is for 2 years if he keeps them up. If he doesn't they'll interview. Sandy Clark his assistant so a Sandy and Alan dream team for those who follow Scottish football


After a good start with promotion to the Championship, the Allan and Sandy dream team didn’t end well at Dunfermline. Johnston is still popular at QoS after his first stint and I hope they stay up. It’s an easy journey for me to see a Pars game.

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10 May 2019 22:08 #49 by Markovitch
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Wasn't at the game but some of the guys said Queens looked a beaten team the other night. Form is terrible, Dobbie is injured, rumours players like dykes just want out, Martin giving the home fans the finger and of course Hewitson gets blamed for everything.

Dunfermline have had a few lean years. I used to like watching them when the Provost of Fife was the manager. Post match poetry!

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11 May 2019 10:24 #50 by SeepBladder
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Leishman is the sort of character every club needs. He’s still on the board, mainly as a fund raiser.

I’ve seen QoS twice this season, both times against Dunfermline. Josh Todd played well in both games and Dykes was outstanding in the first one.

Good luck to Annan and Queens today.

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