Wright/Murray depart - Skelton Asst Manager and Rooney 1st Team Coach

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15 May 2019 13:34 - 04 Jun 2019 23:16 #1 by CCU
ReluctantNicko seems to think Wright is going:


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15 May 2019 13:47 - 15 May 2019 13:47 #2 by munchymagic
I would have preferred Wright and Murray till the end of the season when Sheridan left.

Many would have gotten their Scottish manager then and lets face it the pair of them could have hardly done any worse than Pressley.
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15 May 2019 14:04 #3 by CCU

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15 May 2019 14:05 #4 by oscarsnowball99
What’s happened there!?


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15 May 2019 14:13 #5 by carwash
It's an opportunity to bring in an older player looking to gain some coaching experience. It will also save some money. I'm not surprised.

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15 May 2019 14:30 #6 by Markovitch
So are their contracts up or are we paying compensation?

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15 May 2019 14:39 #7 by CCU
Both signed 2yr deals last Summer, so who knows?

If they have other stuff lined up it may be mutual? If not, likely some form of Compensation, or maybe they had a break clause after one year?

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15 May 2019 14:40 #8 by Waltero
What's the odds on Abbott rolling up. I'm having nightmares even wide-awake
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15 May 2019 14:41 - 15 May 2019 14:45 #9 by crunchblue
Hopefully they’ve been lined up by Sheridan and we’ll get a bit of compo to help boost our player wage budget.
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15 May 2019 14:52 #10 by carwash
Tommy Wright's trial is due to start on October 7th only 2 months after the start of the season.
www.newsandstar.co.uk/news/17385653.carl...atest-court-hearing/

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15 May 2019 15:27 #11 by nomadblue2
Danny Grainger maybe!!

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15 May 2019 15:27 #12 by munchymagic

nomadblue2 wrote: Danny Grainger maybe!!


I am sure that Workington would love that scenario....
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15 May 2019 15:54 #13 by orfc
Maybe Pressley was impressed by the way Kavanagh got us to beat his Coventry side 2-1 :-)

www.efl.com/news/2014/february/proud-gra...ils-carlisle-united/

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15 May 2019 17:47 - 15 May 2019 18:27 #14 by Mush
Long odds on Abbott I hope.

Who has been his back room staff previously Dan?
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15 May 2019 17:58 #15 by pacirv
Disappointing that Murray has gone being a local. Any bets on Skelton or Grainger.

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15 May 2019 18:27 - 15 May 2019 18:30 #16 by PaddockRanger

orfc wrote: Maybe Pressley was impressed by the way Kavanagh got us to beat his Coventry side 2-1 :-)

www.efl.com/news/2014/february/proud-gra...ils-carlisle-united/



A perfect chance to bring in Dobbie as player/coach.....that would get my attention.
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15 May 2019 18:29 #17 by Mush
Murray lives in Preston now so not really a local, ex player yes.

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15 May 2019 18:36 #18 by munchymagic
All this talk about us nabbing the best talent from Scotland.

Of late, ironically it has been ourselves that have been plundered as Dicker is one of the best players in Scotland and Devitt looks destined to end up there as well.

They keep a keener eye on us more than we do with them.

Our recent foray was that McKee chap who was and still is shit.

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15 May 2019 20:02 #19 by The Archer

Mush wrote: Long odds on Abbott I hope.

Who has been his back room staff previously Dan?


Neil MacFarlane has been his assistant at Falkirk, Coventry, Fleetwood and even worked out in Pafos with him. He then became Kidderminster manager before getting the boot there. Got to be fav to pitch up here...
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15 May 2019 20:18 #20 by bluebry

munchymagic wrote: All this talk about us nabbing the best talent from Scotland.

Of late, ironically it has been ourselves that have been plundered as Dicker is one of the best players in Scotland and Devitt looks destined to end up there as well.

They keep a keener eye on us more than we do with them.

Our recent foray was that McKee chap who was and still is shit.


I don't think Dicker was 'plundered', old Curly Chops made it his lifetime ambition to get rid of him, good bit of management that Keith!!
I was talking to a Killy fan just recently and he thinks Dicker is one of their best ever signings, well, done Keith, you Muppet.
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15 May 2019 20:24 - 15 May 2019 20:25 #21 by ParcelPete
Being one of Kilmarnocks " Best ever signings " is hardly a glowing endorsement.
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15 May 2019 20:35 #22 by thefoot

bluebry wrote:

munchymagic wrote: All this talk about us nabbing the best talent from Scotland.

Of late, ironically it has been ourselves that have been plundered as Dicker is one of the best players in Scotland and Devitt looks destined to end up there as well.

They keep a keener eye on us more than we do with them.

Our recent foray was that McKee chap who was and still is shit.


I don't think Dicker was 'plundered', old Curly Chops made it his lifetime ambition to get rid of him, good bit of management that Keith!!
I was talking to a Killy fan just recently and he thinks Dicker is one of their best ever signings, well, done Keith, you Muppet.

I thought that was all down to the fact that Kavanagh had given Dicker silly money. Same with Billy Paynter. I doubt it was Keith didn’t rate him, more likely he needed him off the wage bill to make new signings. To be fair to him he did bring in Kennedy, Jones, Ethuhu, Devitt as replacements so not like we were left lacking in that area
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15 May 2019 20:50 #23 by munchymagic
Yeah I had heard that Curle needed those two off the books.

It wouldn't have been an issue as such if they were both firing on all cylinders and putting the performances in but they weren't and were unfit and on megabucks.

Sleeping/living in your car ffs - whoever you are what would your boss say?!?

That era was terrible and I still don't know how we stayed up apart from some heroics like at Burton.

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15 May 2019 20:53 #24 by munchymagic
As well as Asamoah, Rigg Probably is an unsung hero that season in the players that were professional, kept their heads down and tried their hardest for the shirt.
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15 May 2019 21:24 - 15 May 2019 21:28 #25 by Markovitch
Kyle Dempsey for me.
We beat someone 2 0 at the end of the season , Dicker and Paynter got the goals. This was after the PFA thing when Curle had them training with the youth team. Remember them looking at the bench rather forcefully. Little did we realise that Jamie Proctor, Cole Stockton and James Bailey would soon be gracing Brunton Park, oh happy days
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15 May 2019 21:40 #26 by Mullen103
Great news

At least we’re not Stockport

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17 May 2019 08:07 #27 by seesaw50
Seems it wasn't their own decision ...reading between the lines of SPs latest statement

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is to have won the lottery of life !

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17 May 2019 08:09 #28 by crunchblue
Yeah sounds like Pressley has booted them.

Both had a year left on their deals so I’d imagine we’ve had to pay both of them off

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17 May 2019 09:52 #29 by nobbyblue
I quite like the way Pressley is going about things. He's not hanging about with signings and obviously wants his own assistants in. Nowt wrong with that. Good to see the club have backed him on that.

I don't think the setup and quite a few of the players were his cup of tea last season but he had to go along with it. His success or failure will now be down to his own management and that's the way it should be.

I'm quietly optimistic. :-D
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17 May 2019 17:34 #30 by Wukkie
...........of avoiding relegation?
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17 May 2019 17:40 #31 by munchymagic

nobbyblue wrote: I quite like the way Pressley is going about things. He's not hanging about with signings and obviously wants his own assistants in. Nowt wrong with that. Good to see the club have backed him on that.

I don't think the setup and quite a few of the players were his cup of tea last season but he had to go along with it. His success or failure will now be down to his own management and that's the way it should be.

I'm quietly optimistic. :-D


I would have preferred to have seen Pressley take over Curles players and get them to perform better like Sheridan did.

Oh - I forgot, he actually did really and totally screwed it up....

He needed a taxi and not a contract, he was nearly sacked weeks previously according to reports.
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17 May 2019 17:41 #32 by crunchblue

Wukkie wrote: ...........of avoiding relegation?


Quite hard to say yet. At the moment the squad is weak, most of our better players are going or are gone, a lot of experience has been removed, so all depends on the quality that pressley brings in.

The diabolical away performances and form under him does concern me.

At the moment I’d say we’re a good bet for relegation but that’s purely down to the fact most of our squad has gone so we’re pretty much starting again. So that could change with some quality additions.

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17 May 2019 17:47 #33 by munchymagic

crunchblue wrote:

Wukkie wrote: ...........of avoiding relegation?


Quite hard to say yet. At the moment the squad is weak, most of our better players are going or are gone, a lot of experience has been removed, so all depends on the quality that pressley brings in.

The diabolical away performances and form under him does concern me.

At the moment I’d say we’re a good bet for relegation but that’s purely down to the fact most of our squad has gone so we’re pretty much starting again. So that could change with some quality additions.


We all know that is the Utopia of getting rid of the shite and replacing it with quality but it rarely works and at a push takes time to get it together.

I also believed in this philosophy until Kavanagh kicked it out of me.

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17 May 2019 17:55 #34 by carwash
Our chances of relegation are as remote as our chances of reaching the playoffs were under Pressley. We will start the season on a tight budget but if by January we look in danger then the board will find £500k to throw at the problem to avoid the £900k per season cost of relegation. Only if a club is monumentally mismanaged like Notts County or too small like Yeovil should relegation from League 2 be a threat.

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18 May 2019 14:55 #35 by Wukkie
My response was tongue in cheek really but we have been relegated before Carwash or have you forgotten about.

As for what Crunch has alluded too I'm afraid rebuilding the team every six months is sadly what the grand plan for the club seems to be nowadays under the reluctant stewardship.

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18 May 2019 15:22 #36 by Bluedevil

Wukkie wrote: My response was tongue in cheek really but we have been relegated before Carwash or have you forgotten about.

As for what Crunch has alluded too I'm afraid rebuilding the team every six months is sadly what the grand plan for the club seems to be nowadays under the reluctant stewardship.


Think you'll find that's similar for most lower division sides though to be honest. The days of long contracts in the lower divisions are becoming a thing of the past.

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18 May 2019 15:29 #37 by Markovitch
Contracts are getting longer aren't they? We used to sign players on monthly contracts or even non contract terms

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18 May 2019 15:31 #38 by munchymagic
There is always a risk in signing a player on a two year deal the factors being down to skill, injury, loss of form or even failing to settle in the area.

We are in the same boat as everyone else though so stability is a must in my eyes, because of our location then I would still be looking at long deals if the money is right and not break us.

The worrying part is that Devitt is proven so offering him a on year deal would be an insult.
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18 May 2019 15:32 #39 by Bluedevil

munchymagic wrote: There is always a risk in signing a player on a two year deal the factors being down to skill, injury, loss of form or even failing to settle in the area.

We are in the same boat as everyone else though so stability is a must in my eyes, because of our location then I would still be looking at long deals if the money is right and not break us.

The worrying part is that Devitt is proven so offering him a on year deal would be an insult.


Its a one year deal with an option isn't it? Which is good for the club surely?

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18 May 2019 15:42 #40 by munchymagic
One player is a club option 'one'.

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18 May 2019 17:25 #41 by carwash

Wukkie wrote: My response was tongue in cheek really but we have been relegated before Carwash or have you forgotten about.

As for what Crunch has alluded too I'm afraid rebuilding the team every six months is sadly what the grand plan for the club seems to be nowadays under the reluctant stewardship.


Wukkie, getting relegated from League 1 to League 2 is financially insignificant. Less money in handouts from the EFL and Premier League but lower wages to pay. Falling out the League would be seriously harmful to the Club finances. Last time it happened was when the club was owned by JC. EWM and Holdsworth are too savvy to allow that to happen again.

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18 May 2019 17:50 #42 by munchymagic

carwash wrote:

Wukkie wrote: My response was tongue in cheek really but we have been relegated before Carwash or have you forgotten about.

As for what Crunch has alluded too I'm afraid rebuilding the team every six months is sadly what the grand plan for the club seems to be nowadays under the reluctant stewardship.


Wukkie, getting relegated from League 1 to League 2 is financially insignificant. Less money in handouts from the EFL and Premier League but lower wages to pay. Falling out the League would be seriously harmful to the Club finances. Last time it happened was when the club was owned by JC. EWM and Holdsworth are too savvy to allow that to happen again.


"Holdsworth are too savvy "

I never thought I would see Holdsworth and savvy in the same sentence.

"Holdsworth is too spivvy " perhaps.
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18 May 2019 19:47 #43 by Waltero
I've said from the day he arrived he reminds me of a dodgy used car salesman (Boycie springs to mind)
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18 May 2019 21:26 #44 by Zebby
Well he's doing the job he was brought in to do.He put a squad together last year that was no worse than previous seasons on a reduced budget ..
Kennedy released Jones looks to be going their wages will probably cover 3 players this season he has a difficult and thankless task but at the end of day he's been brought in to get value for money from the playing squad and reduce losses by EWM
My anger is aimed at the owners who have no idea how engage with fans and even worse how to cater for football fans or the local community which in turn funds the club..they have no idea how to create money from the product they own and what's even worse they don't even seem to try quite happy for fans to spend money in the rugby club for drinks and food for example..

Be just and fear not

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19 May 2019 16:34 #45 by Wukkie
The problem with these one-year contracts is that in the short term the club isn't held to paying wages for 12-months only compared to signing someone on a two-year deal and who turns out to be shit then spending the latter year of the deal trying to get them off the wage bill but on the other hand if said player turns out to be decent and attracting bids from other teams we're guaranteed to get peanuts for them.

How can the club improve turnover besides an upturn in gates (not likely) or progressing through the cups?
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04 Jun 2019 08:22 #46 by CCU

Win or Lose, Up The Blues!

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04 Jun 2019 08:25 #47 by nobbyblue
It's somebody we all know.

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04 Jun 2019 09:07 #48 by Lakelandterrier

nobbyblue wrote: It's somebody we all know.



Who would that be then... ?

Cumbrian and Proud

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04 Jun 2019 09:09 #49 by Zebby

Lakelandterrier wrote:

nobbyblue wrote: It's somebody we all know.



Who would that be then... ?


It's a secret shush...

Be just and fear not

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04 Jun 2019 09:11 #50 by Mush

nobbyblue wrote: It's somebody we all know.


Not Greg Abbott I hope! :-(

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