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08 Jul 2019 12:18 #51 by Zebby
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Am I the only person that smiles when they see the name Duffus ? :)

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08 Jul 2019 13:13 #52 by pacirv
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Is a comical name but he looks like he'd be a useful addition to the squad he's strong in the tackle and has a good passing range. Well worth taking a chance on.

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08 Jul 2019 13:54 #53 by Markovitch
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pacirv wrote: Is a comical name but he looks like he'd be a useful addition to the squad he's strong in the tackle and has a good passing range. Well worth taking a chance on.

Is he left or right full back

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08 Jul 2019 14:06 #54 by Piglet_Phoenix
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He's right footed.

His Cardiff U23 write up says his most natural position is as an "attacking midfielder" so obviously quite versatile.

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09 Jul 2019 22:36 #55 by paddockite
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Thoughts on the trialists tonight...

Storey - I actually thought he was the best of the bunch, and certainly worth a longer look. Held the ball up really well, very rarely lost it and it stuck to him even on some difficult passes. Ran the channel a couple of times too. Certainly potential there.

Reeves - I'm not sure. Movement was good, and he played a lovely pass to Hope, but his touch was off a couple of times and he wasnt hugely involved. In a disrupted team in the 2nd half though, so will need another look.

Buckley-Ricketts - very average. You can see there is something there but he didn't show it. He did only have Branthwaite behind him in the 1st half that didn't attack once, so that wont have helped.

Duffus - get rid tomorrow. Nowhere near good enough for L2.

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09 Jul 2019 23:03 #56 by crunchblue
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I know what you mean about Storey, but its all link up and shifting the ball on, i don’t think he’ll get more than 5 goals a season.

If we’re going to play 4-3-3 then the 9 needs to be capable of scoring goals. I’m not sure he is.

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09 Jul 2019 23:08 #57 by paddockite
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crunchblue wrote: I know what you mean about Storey, but its all link up and shifting the ball on, i don’t think he’ll get more than 5 goals a season.

If we’re going to play 4-3-3 then the 9 needs to be capable of scoring goals. I’m not sure he is.


As a striking option, not necessarily a starter.

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09 Jul 2019 23:13 - 09 Jul 2019 23:13 #58 by crunchblue
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He did show he can hold the ball up & retain possession. May be useful as an option to bring on when we’re wanting to see out tight games.
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09 Jul 2019 23:16 #59 by paddockite
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He can play on the wing too, so got a bit of versatility.

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10 Jul 2019 09:25 - 10 Jul 2019 09:25 #60 by heilkmoon
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I'd be wary of signing Storey. His career to date follows the same pattern at every club, people see some potential there, sign him and he flops. His goalscoring record is very poor indeed other than one loan spell at Inverness. 4 goals in 64 appearances for his last club Partick.

Got a feeling though we are going to sign him and let Reeves go.
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12 Jul 2019 16:00 #61 by BlueBanana
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Story moves on, one in from villa
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12 Jul 2019 16:16 - 12 Jul 2019 16:23 #62 by CCU
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Would’ve been disappointed if Storey had been our main striker, no loss...

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12 Jul 2019 17:14 - 12 Jul 2019 17:15 #63 by crunchblue
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CCU wrote: Would’ve been disappointed if Storey had been our main striker, no loss...


Agreed. Reminded me a bit of Craig Curran on Tuesday night, really good first touch and was good with his back to goal, but didn’t look much of a goal threat and his record backs that up.
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12 Jul 2019 17:58 #64 by melbourneblues
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CCU wrote: Would’ve been disappointed if Storey had been our main striker, no loss...


I don’t think he was going to get us up to great heights.

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12 Jul 2019 18:01 #65 by bluebry
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Think he left the (high) building.

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12 Jul 2019 18:02 #66 by ParcelPete
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Peter Crouch has retired,he's as good as 2 Storeys.

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12 Jul 2019 18:16 #67 by munchymagic
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ParcelPete wrote: Peter Crouch has retired,he's as good as 2 Storeys.


Didn't even know that he had retired - surely the lure of a 600th league appearance could have swayed him....

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13 Jul 2019 19:05 #68 by crunchblue
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I’d say Reeves getting a deal is unlikely, unless he plays really well and scores a couple at Chester on Tuesday.

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13 Jul 2019 20:04 #69 by Zebby
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It's a step up for Reeves that's for sure but he scored a lot of goals last season might just need a bit of time to adjust and get up to speed no harm in giving him another week or so ...

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13 Jul 2019 20:45 #70 by paddockite
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Duffus seemed far more assured today (albeit against lower opposition obviously), used the ball better, and positionally was more sound. Might just be a matter of he'll settle into the role the more he plays.

Reeves was poor, barely got involved on Tuesday, and was even less involved today. He's banged nearly 40 goals in the league above Penrith but was getting pushed off the ball and losing duels a lot in the 1st half. Unless he's playing like Ronaldo in training, I cannot see him getting a contract.

Buckley-Ricketts, one of the most frustrating players I have ever watched. You can tell he's got it. He's got pace, trickery, off the videos on YouTube of him training this week he's scored a couple of worldies. But the two games he's been incredibly reserved. You wouldn't know he was trying to get a contract, just easy passes sideways, no real running the opposition back line, I expected him to be raw, but I expected him to be a direct runner and getting to the by line, he's not done it once.

Brunt, poor and anonymous most of the game, but he's only just met the players yesterday, so will give him time.

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13 Jul 2019 20:52 #71 by munchymagic
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I kept saying to my lad at the Hibernian game that there is something there with Buckley-Ricketts but we have to look for his final ball and finishing - whipped a couple in but we didn't have the quality on show to capitalise.

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13 Jul 2019 23:30 #72 by crunchblue
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Just watched the first half of Penrith on ifollow.

Duffus - looked ok but really hard to judge as the opposition was so poor. Hardly had to do any defending. Decent use of the ball but was under no pressure.

Brunt - shite. Poor passing, poor touches, caught flat footed when receiving passes. Basic stuff really poor. Not sure he’s got the physical attributes to play midfield in League 2, especially as an 8 as pressley described him. I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt because he only arrived yesterday, but not a good start against opposition he should be taking the piss against. Huge improvements needed. I’m looking forward to seeing if there’s improvement on Tuesday night after a couple more training sessions with the team.

Buckley-Ricketts - I know what ppl mean when they say he frustrates, but there is something there. I don’t think Peterbrough would gave him a 3yr deal if there wasn’t a player there. Scored a goal and would have another if Elliott Reeves had a brain cell to use to look up and lay it on a plate for an easy goal. Hasn’t done enough yet to sign him but probably worth a longer look. Needs to be more direct and look to take people on more.

Reeves - Lost. The lad looks totally lost. Watching him I don’t know how he scored so many goals, he doesn’t even get into positions to have a chance of scoring. Is it the same player I read about? I was asking myself. Against opposition like Penrith I expected him to look good. Doesn’t seem to have much of a football brain either. He might get the Chester game to impress but I highly doubt he’ll earn a contract.

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15 Jul 2019 10:55 - 15 Jul 2019 10:57 #73 by CCU
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15 Jul 2019 11:59 #74 by Markovitch
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Right sided defender? Elliot and the 16 year old not enough? Does this mean Duffus isn't signing? Or Duffus will play attacking right midfield? Nothing against bringing players in on trial but I can't get excited about this. When iredale, elliot and mellish came in early doors they looked well prepared. Taking 18 year olds on trial with a view to a loan and picking up a player when he will be 3rd choice probably smacks of desperation.

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15 Jul 2019 12:06 #75 by CCU
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Maybe they’re expecting someone to come in for Branthwaite, which would leave no cover for Elliott and Webster on the right side of defence?

Maybe Duffus is deemed more of a classic utility Player than a specialised Right sided Defender?

No harm in looking at lads is there?

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15 Jul 2019 12:29 #76 by thetashkentterror
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Wouldn't be bothered about signing any of the trialists from what I've seen so far.

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15 Jul 2019 12:33 #77 by Markovitch
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Certainly no harm in bringing players in but it is the one area we have enough players. Be better if he was a striker where we have literally no one

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15 Jul 2019 12:41 #78 by sirjimmyglass
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What is our record like in recent years for signing any trialists?

Zoko stands out as a successful one and we had Bugno for a bit. Anyone else?

It adds a little bit of interest in pre season training for us but by and large it's a reasonably fruitless exercise bringing these players in most of the time.

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15 Jul 2019 13:00 #79 by bluebry
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sirjimmyglass wrote: What is our record like in recent years for signing any trialists?

Zoko stands out as a successful one and we had Bugno for a bit. Anyone else?

It adds a little bit of interest in pre season training for us but by and large it's a reasonably fruitless exercise bringing these players in most of the time.


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15 Jul 2019 13:06 #80 by pacirv
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We're crying out for attacking players and we bring in another defender what's that about.
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15 Jul 2019 13:11 #81 by bluebry
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I believe young Josh Galloway played at Penrith (and scored) seen him play a couple of times for the Youth team and I think he looks a really decent player, personally I would us rather bring on our own talent rather than give some kid from Villa the game time. If it was a reasonably experienced player, then yes, but not a kid.
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15 Jul 2019 13:13 #82 by thetashkentterror
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Exactly, the young lads have been no worse than the trialists.

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15 Jul 2019 13:14 #83 by sirjimmyglass
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If some kid from Villa is nearly as good as some kid from Villa we had last season I'd be more than happy.

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15 Jul 2019 13:16 - 15 Jul 2019 13:17 #84 by bluebry
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Agreed, but if they are no better than we have here then whats the point??
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15 Jul 2019 13:39 - 15 Jul 2019 13:41 #85 by Markovitch
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You don't know that they're not better until you see them play. My problem is why do we have a long line of defenders and no strikers coming in. There'll be a wave of players available for loan in the middle and end of next month when the windows close but it's going to be touch and go leaving it until then.
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15 Jul 2019 14:15 #86 by Dancingbear
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Touch and go? Theres some cant be far off touching cloth already ;)

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15 Jul 2019 16:23 #87 by musher441
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bluebry wrote:

sirjimmyglass wrote: What is our record like in recent years for signing any trialists?

Zoko stands out as a successful one and we had Bugno for a bit. Anyone else?

It adds a little bit of interest in pre season training for us but by and large it's a reasonably fruitless exercise bringing these players in most of the time.


Simon Davy


I'd hardly call Simon Davey 'recent' Bry, he arrived in 1992 - 27 years ago.
If all we can muster up from trials are Davey 27 years ago, Zoko and Bugno, then I'd suggest that trialling players is by and large, a considerable waste of time.
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15 Jul 2019 16:26 - 15 Jul 2019 16:26 #88 by digger
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Successful trialists Carl Hawley , Stephane Pounewatchy , Simon Davey
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15 Jul 2019 16:29 #89 by sirjimmyglass
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musher441 wrote:

bluebry wrote:

sirjimmyglass wrote: What is our record like in recent years for signing any trialists?

Zoko stands out as a successful one and we had Bugno for a bit. Anyone else?

It adds a little bit of interest in pre season training for us but by and large it's a reasonably fruitless exercise bringing these players in most of the time.


Simon Davy


I'd hardly call Simon Davey 'recent' Bry, he arrived in 1992 - 27 years ago.
If all we can muster up from trials are Davey 27 years ago, Zoko and Bugno, then I'd suggest that trialling players is by and large, a considerable waste of time.


I think you're most likely right, but perhaps from the club's side there's an element of swelling numbers a bit to try help with 11 v 11 games etc at this point in the training regime. There's no real harm in doing it, it can hardly cost the club much at all, but there's always a lot of intrigue in the players we get who almost all don't turn into anything.

Suppose we once had Grant Holt on trial.

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15 Jul 2019 16:31 #90 by musher441
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digger wrote: Successful trialists Carl Hawley , Stephane Pounewatchy , Simon Davey


Again, as previously said with Davey, not what you could call recent.
Hawley 2004 - 15 years ago.
Pounewatchy - 1996 -23 years ago.
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15 Jul 2019 17:04 #91 by Dancingbear
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There’s probably loads of players were given a trial before they actually signed.

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15 Jul 2019 17:16 #92 by CCU
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Cosgrove was a ‘recent’ trialist...

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15 Jul 2019 17:30 #93 by pedals
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Steven Rigg on two occasions as well.

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15 Jul 2019 18:02 #94 by Lakelandterrier
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digger wrote: Successful trialists Carl Hawley , Stephane Pounewatchy , Simon Davey


Pounewatchey was never on trial. He played a friendly under a false name and signed for the club afterwards.

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15 Jul 2019 21:47 - 15 Jul 2019 21:50 #95 by crunchblue
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Was Adam Collin a trialist or did we just sign him straight away from Workington?
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15 Jul 2019 22:16 #96 by munchymagic
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crunchblue wrote: Was Adam Collin a trialist or did we just sign him straight away from Workington?


Dodgy ground that one, I think we shafted them in some way or another....

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15 Jul 2019 22:36 - 15 Jul 2019 23:17 #97 by nobbyblue
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That Hayden's spent a lot of his time at Stourbridge so he must be decent.

I don't want to be nasty or out but we seem to be shopping in the bargain basement by the look of some of these trialists. I don't think even Morecambe would touch any of them!
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16 Jul 2019 12:56 #98 by Oldbolt
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Lakelandterrier wrote:

digger wrote: Successful trialists Carl Hawley , Stephane Pounewatchy , Simon Davey


Pounewatchey was never on trial. He played a friendly under a false name and signed for the club afterwards.


Stefan Whately was the name he played under
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16 Jul 2019 13:27 #99 by nobbyblue
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I'll be very impressed if any one can tell me who the friendly was against. I remember it well.

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16 Jul 2019 13:38 #100 by bluebry
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nobbyblue wrote: I'll be very impressed if any one can tell me who the friendly was against. I remember it well.


Was it St Johnstone?

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