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31 Jul 2019 21:50 - 31 Jul 2019 21:50 #1 by CCU
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Into them England!

What do folk make of the team?



I’d have Bairstow at 4 and Foakes in at 7 as Keeper, no room for Denly.

Burns is in the last chance saloon.

Ali? Leach should be ahead of him.

Anyways, into them!

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31 Jul 2019 21:56 #2 by Dancingbear
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Boycott slaughtered Ali on radio before. Lasso was quoting Ali saying he hadn’t scored any runs coz he never knows what number he’s batting. Boycs said absolute codswallop.

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31 Jul 2019 21:58 #3 by pie
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Dancingbear wrote: Boycott slaughtered Ali on radio before. Lasso was quoting Ali saying he hadn’t scored any runs coz he never knows what number he’s batting. Boycs said absolute codswallop.


And Boycott is right. Ali's technique would get found anywhere between 1 and 11, so no point making excuses for him.
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31 Jul 2019 23:22 #4 by Dancingbear
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Agree. You could bat 5 and still be at the crease by 11.15. Boycs said play the shots you should play and leave the ones you should leave regardless of what number you come in.

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01 Aug 2019 02:03 #5 by pie
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Dancingbear wrote: Agree. You could bat 5 and still be at the crease by 11.15. Boycs said play the shots you should play and leave the ones you should leave regardless of what number you come in.


Can’t argue with the logic for once from him!

I’ve batted at 5 and been out and back in the shed by 11.15!

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01 Aug 2019 02:33 #6 by Piglet_Phoenix
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I'd have picked Archer, possibly ahead of Broad more likely ahead of Ali depending on the track.

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01 Aug 2019 09:14 #7 by 1954Blue
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Archer has a slight side strain - not great for a bowler and since Anderson is just recovering from injury I think it is sensible not to play both. With two mediocre ( to put it mildly ) batting line ups I think it will be a low scoring series. IMO their bowling attack is slightly better than ours so, despite what the bookies say, I think they are slight favourites. Hope I'm wrong.
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01 Aug 2019 09:47 - 01 Aug 2019 09:54 #8 by heilkmoon
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On current form the Aussies' batting and bowling is in better form than ours.

You feel there's more chance of our batting collapsing than theirs and more chance of our bowlers bowling the wrong lengths or wasting favourable conditions than theirs.

Our first innings batting and bowling against Ireland was very poor and the batting in the second innings wasn't much better.

Root has moved up the order to try and bolster it but his World Cup Final innings and performances against Ireland highlighted that he is far from reliable when the pressure is really on.

Need someone like Burns or Denly to exceed the very low expectations of them. If we are batting first this morning it'll be tough to watch.

Moeen is the best spinner we have and that's why he's in. It's a pity he's out of form with the bat but if we had a proper batting line up his contribution should only ever be a bonus, not something to rely on.
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01 Aug 2019 11:10 #9 by Dancingbear
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Warner should have been out first ball!!!

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01 Aug 2019 11:23 #10 by tonyb
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Warner gone lbw and the ball was missing, they didn't review, what goes around...
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03 Aug 2019 12:17 #11 by Dancingbear
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Im not sure Geoffrey will be impressed by that Moeen Knock.

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03 Aug 2019 12:22 #12 by CCU
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Dancingbear wrote: Im not sure Geoffrey will be impressed by that Moeen Knock.


Words fail me...

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05 Aug 2019 08:08 #13 by nobbyblue
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Unless rain intervenes there's no chance of England batting all day.

I'd gan for 230 all out! :-D

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05 Aug 2019 08:26 #14 by Yorkie Blue
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A Sir Geoffrey at the crease for 6 hours or so would be just the ticket.

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05 Aug 2019 08:33 #15 by heilkmoon
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All last week today was forecast to be badly affected by rain, but this morning's BBC weather gives a 0% chance of rain in Birmingham.

I'd like to think we'd at least bat into the final session but if I had to bet my money would be on 150 all out mid afternoon.

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05 Aug 2019 08:43 - 05 Aug 2019 09:37 #16 by Zebby
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I'm afraid we will see how bog standard Ali is today when Lyon gets to bowl,the gamble on Anderson's fitness has backfired massively and this game would quite possibly be over by now had he not broke down instead looking down the barrel,
Fingers crossed Archer is fully fit for next Test I would prefer Foulkes behind the stumps too

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05 Aug 2019 09:04 #17 by heilkmoon
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Zebby wrote: I'm afraid we will see how big standard Ali is today when Lyon gets to bowl,the gamble on Anderson's fitness has backfired massively and this game would quite possibly be over by now had he not broke down instead looking down the barrel,
Fingers crossed Archer is fully fit for next Test I would prefer Foulkes behind the stumps too


Yes the Anderson situation has been very costly. Probably down to the player ultimately to declare himself fit or not, but either way it doesn't seem that his fitness was properly tested beforehand for him to break down after 4 overs.

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06 Aug 2019 10:04 #18 by CCU
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After that shambles yesterday, confirmation Anderson will miss the next test.

Some big decisions to be made already...

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06 Aug 2019 11:36 - 06 Aug 2019 11:38 #19 by heilkmoon
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They really need Archer to be fit but must make sure he is first. If Archer isn't fit it will be Sam Curran to replace Anderson.

Leach has to come in for Moeen.

I'd expect those to be the only two changes at this stage, although personally I'd drop Bairstow. If Archer is fit I'd have Buttler as wicket keeper and play Sam Curran. If Archer isn't fit I'd bring in Foakes as well.

I don't buy all this talk of England being 'drained' by the World Cup, they only played one more game in the competition than the Aussies!
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06 Aug 2019 18:57 #20 by Champions95
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I think there's been quite muddled thinking for some years regarding the various 'all rounders' in the team. Stokes, bairstow, butler, moeen. A test side should be 6 batsmen, a decent keeper who can bat and then 4 bowlers - ideally 1 spinner and 3 steamers. In a perfect world your number 8 can hold a bat and at least one of the top six can send down a few overs but that shouldn't be their reason for selection. Stokes has worked incredibly hard at his game and is totally in on merit as one of England's best red ball batsmen but is the same really true of bairstow and butler? Are they better keepers than foakes? Is moeen England's best spinner? If the answer to any of those questions is no then they shouldn't be getting in the team. Of course the added problem is that there isn't a queue of players knocking at the door, a situation not helped by moving the first class games in favour of 20 over biffing. It also doesn't help that Root is a shit captain. Saying all that I think England are a vastly better side if they can bat first. Win the toss at Lords, put on 300,and I think it will all look a lot more positive.

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06 Aug 2019 20:36 #21 by Zebby
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I'm not happy with make up of team however we lost toss and Jimmy got injured I'm adamant that if he hadn't broke down we would have won that game however he did and we lost badly

Moen Ali if he's our best spinner we should do without he's woefully out of form,Leach at least offers more control,Archer took six wickets today in a second IX game hopefully proving his fitness has to play and Foulkes needs to come in behind stumps for either Bairstow or Buttler I wouldhave Northeast in ahead of Denley and we still need to magic an opener from somewhere the top order is a clusterfuk and has been drifting for years..Bayliss has done his job and won world cup focus has to be on bringing someone to sort out the batting in tests next

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18 Aug 2019 16:21 #22 by Laffy
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If you’re not watching the test match, switch it on now.Brilliant
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18 Aug 2019 16:42 #23 by Laffy
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I reckon Bancroft will lock himself in the toilets at tea-I would

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18 Aug 2019 16:43 #24 by ParcelPete
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I wish i could afford Sky.

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18 Aug 2019 16:50 #25 by Zebby
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This will be a draw however,if we can get decent weather I fancy England to turn this series around
Such a shame Mark Wood is injured extreme pace at both ends would have been great to see.

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18 Aug 2019 19:28 #26 by CCU
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Draw probably about right but a bit of the pendulum towards England?

Leach and Archer have to stay in the XI, but we need to sort this batting line-up right out!

Roy is in last chance saloon already for me, and Denly not far behind.

Roll on Headingley!

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18 Aug 2019 20:08 #27 by Zebby
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CCU wrote: Draw probably about right but a bit of the pendulum towards England?

Leach and Archer have to stay in the XI, but we need to sort this batting line-up right out!

Roy is in last chance saloon already for me, and Denly not far behind.

Roll on Headingley!


Denley has looked good before getting out I would be tempted to swap them if they are staying in team Roy coming in lower down order

Momentum definitely swung with Headingley next up currently the quickest pitch in England .Jofra has them rattled what amazes me is how accurate and economical he is, so often speed merchants leak runs this lad doesn't

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18 Aug 2019 20:19 #28 by CCU
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Swopping Denly and Roy round was mentioned post-Match on TMS. Maybe worth a go?

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18 Aug 2019 20:58 #29 by Zebby
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Yea worth a try possibly not many batsmen putting their hands up to get in team..

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22 Aug 2019 20:01 #30 by CCU
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Brilliant from Archer today...

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23 Aug 2019 13:53 #31 by cocaineblues
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Well, there's collapsing, and then there's this.

At least we're not Mullen.

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23 Aug 2019 14:10 #32 by CCU
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Thats the urn heading back down under barring a miracle...

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23 Aug 2019 14:14 #33 by Mullen103
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CCU wrote: Thats the urn heading back down under barring a miracle...


Doesn't it stop here anyway?

At least we’re not Stockport

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25 Aug 2019 09:55 #34 by ParcelPete
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What a day in store today,can someone step up to the mark and become a hero ?
My heart days yes but head says no chance.

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25 Aug 2019 10:25 #35 by 182blue
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A tall order but with Root and Stokes batting there is always a chance.
All the perceived wisdom tells you it won’t happen, but if they can survive the first hour then I would start to believe that we can do it.

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25 Aug 2019 11:01 #36 by CCU
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New ball in is it 8 overs time will be the key period...

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25 Aug 2019 11:50 #37 by 182blue
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Root out.
Good catch but not the best way to get out.
He’s getting some stick for that.

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25 Aug 2019 13:12 - 25 Aug 2019 13:13 #38 by Zebby
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The B@st@rds have me hoping again after coming to terms with losing and watching Aussies retain...

This would be a quite epic win if they can pull it off,

It's the hope that kills you...

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25 Aug 2019 13:26 #39 by 182blue
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Ashes were looking like damp squib and now could be the opposite.
England firm favourites with the bookies at lunch.

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25 Aug 2019 13:41 #40 by Laffy
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Listening on TMS-this is what England is all about.Beautiful day, good chat and Test match on a knife edge

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25 Aug 2019 14:03 #41 by ParcelPete
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Bairstow gone,all set up for Stokes to be the hero.
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25 Aug 2019 14:11 #42 by Laffy
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On the buses.

‘I hate you Butler’
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25 Aug 2019 16:13 #43 by CCU
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This is unreal, regardless of this last couple of minutes coming up...

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25 Aug 2019 16:20 #44 by Yorkie Blue
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Great second innings, well done, exciting finish.

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25 Aug 2019 16:26 #45 by Zebby
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Absolutely the greatest unexpected victory... Ben Stokes you absolute beast of a player take a bow son,Jack leach balls of steel my nerves are shot...

Ashes Cricket is just the greatest sport ever

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25 Aug 2019 16:30 - 25 Aug 2019 16:31 #46 by dishmonkey
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Who says Test Cricket is dead???!!!


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25 Aug 2019 16:45 #47 by Dancingbear
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Wheres Mullen to come on and say we only won coz the Aussies missed that easy run out and ballsed up their last referral ;)

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25 Aug 2019 17:08 - 25 Aug 2019 17:17 #48 by Mullen103
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We would of lost that If the Aussies didn’t miss that easy run out or used their referrals badly.

Edit: If Stokes had been found guilty we wouldn’t have won that game.

At least we’re not Stockport
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25 Aug 2019 17:18 #49 by Laffy
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That’s cricket Richard-my faith in sport renewed again.If that had been football, the riot police would be on the pitch.Magnificent spectacle

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25 Aug 2019 17:38 #50 by torbayblue
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What can you say after an innings like that, Ben Stokes that defied superlatives! Fantastic.

I have no idea how he could possibly top that - the most exciting, the most courageous, the most nerve-racking test innings ever.

Cometh the hour, cometh our hero, very
well done that man.
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