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29 Oct 2019 11:03 #1 by CCU
Seems Jezza wants a GE now and will back it in todays vote:


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29 Oct 2019 11:56 #2 by Urban Designer
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There will be a lot of tactical voting in this election.

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29 Oct 2019 12:15 #3 by sirjimmyglass
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The most important general election in decades in this country, if not ever?

And the two main candidates are quite appalling.

We're doomed.
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29 Oct 2019 12:19 #4 by Laffy
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Yes there will be a big choice

Keith Vaz-rent boy and coke(they were late interior decorators party)
Dianne Abbott-ex trophy lay of Corbyn party
Corbyn-Marxist and CND and friend of IRA party
McDonnell-IRA friend and Marxist party
Ian Lavery-Labour chairman with conviction for football hooliganism, and alleged Miner’s Fund fraud party
Emily Thornberry-anti white van man and English flag party

In the interests of balance,I will do a similar list for the Tories.

Tactical voting might be a challenge in this one

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29 Oct 2019 12:25 #5 by CCU
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If only the Monster Raving Loony Party could field in every seat!

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29 Oct 2019 12:31 #6 by Laffy
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To be frank, they probably represent us better than most.

I do like Nigel Evans and Carolyn Flint-they have remembered who pays them.Also Labour firebrand Ronnie Campbell-a man of principle amongst a sea of mediocrity and self serving rubbish.
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29 Oct 2019 12:39 #7 by orfc
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Bozo is going to sell you brexit lads out with a deal that will involve gregg's sausage rolls being replaced by a german blood sausage rammed inside some sneering gallic croissant. Get behind farage, tories!

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29 Oct 2019 12:39 #8 by CCU
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Have made a seperate Thread for the likely upcoming GE.

Play nice!

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29 Oct 2019 13:14 #9 by Mullen103
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Its a one policy, brexit, GE a rather strange one.

If thats all it was the conservatives would probably get my vote but i detest their policy on universal credit/pip and if they get back in there'll push through more harsh policies against the most vunerable. I like a lot of Labours policies but on brexit No - However you vote for who will help you.

This is really a 2nd brexit referendum but remember whoever wins will likely be in for 5 years - I think another hung parliament with lib dems increasing/ labour decreasing and maybe a couple of brexit party MPs. Same shit again and probably have another brexit referendum as the new parliament can't make a decision - BoJo will still be PM

At least we’re not Stockport

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29 Oct 2019 13:53 #10 by CCU
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Mullen103 wrote: Its a one policy, brexit, GE a rather strange one.


So was 2017!

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29 Oct 2019 14:37 #11 by sirjimmyglass
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Mullen103 wrote: This is really a 2nd brexit referendum but remember whoever wins will likely be in for 5 years - I think another hung parliament with lib dems increasing/ labour decreasing and maybe a couple of brexit party MPs. Same shit again and probably have another brexit referendum as the new parliament can't make a decision - BoJo will still be PM


Don't think we'll ever see another 5 year government with a hung parliament. Too much movement between parties means that majorities become minorities and they can't get anything through parliament. All it takes is for one policy to split the ranks or piss off the coalition party and you're stuck.

Should be an interesting few weeks.

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29 Oct 2019 15:15 #12 by Mullen103
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CCU wrote:

Mullen103 wrote: Its a one policy, brexit, GE a rather strange one.


So was 2017!


Not as much as this one will be - The main parties stood on manifestos to honour the referendum and get us out. All said we'd be out by March 2019.

We've a remain party now, lib dems, who will put us back in (We're not out yet) without a referendum.

At least we’re not Stockport

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29 Oct 2019 15:36 #13 by pacirv
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Big mistake there are a lot more important issues than brexit but this will be dominated by it.

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29 Oct 2019 16:01 #14 by CCU
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Hold up!


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29 Oct 2019 16:22 #15 by nobbyblue
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You'd have to be clinically insane to vote Labour! :-D
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29 Oct 2019 16:28 #16 by Mush
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CCU wrote: Hold up!


They are worried about Jezza's army.

Typical Tories changing things to work in their favour! :-(

Power to the people!

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29 Oct 2019 16:47 - 29 Oct 2019 16:47 #17 by CCU
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Not quite so simple!

If you’re old enough to vote at 16, should you go to adult jail? Lower the driving age? Alcohol age? Leaving education age?

Minefield!

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29 Oct 2019 17:07 - 29 Oct 2019 17:08 #18 by thesilentone
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Have to say, Bojo is far from perfect, Jezza maybe a decent bloke, but certainly not a PM, and Labour are a disaster area. His r/h man is dangerous, Jezza would be better off without him.

LibDem's will say owt, sadly they will get a few protest votes and Labour voters, and will do better than they deserve.

Dark horse has to be Farage, they have done allot of campaigning in Labour Brexit areas.

Some big names will go.........

It's not going to be about who's policies you like the most, it will be whose you hate the least.

Tory win, but not a landslide.
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29 Oct 2019 17:16 #19 by seesaw50
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CCU wrote: Not quite so simple!

If you’re old enough to vote at 16, should you go to adult jail? Lower the driving age? Alcohol age? Leaving education age?

Minefield!


Yes complete can of worms....how many will have been paying attention to this fiasco since they were err 12 and a half in the case of 16 year olds......

And what of Farage's Brexit Party

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29 Oct 2019 17:48 #20 by Laffy
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I remember the headline in the Telegraph when they dropped the homosexual age of consent to 16 from 18.

‘Old enough to be b .......d but not to have a fag afterwards’

I see nothing wrong with aligning the voting age but it’s a bit late to do it now!

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29 Oct 2019 17:59 #21 by Ibogaine
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Don't necessarily agree with lowering the voting age, but 18 does seem a bit arbitrary when you can drive at 17 and join the army at 16.

Anyway, the early Ibogaine tip is for another hung parliament. Anyone fancy a charity bet against that outcome?*



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29 Oct 2019 18:00 #22 by High Street
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All of the people mentioned above will not be voting at this election.Electoral Comission have said it will take 6 months to get them all registered etc.

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29 Oct 2019 18:07 #23 by Laffy
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I put a £10 note in the poppy tin in Corbridge today

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29 Oct 2019 18:34 #24 by Laffy
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Bookies are tipping 360 plus seats for Boris.

Alan-lets start looking at venues for the party

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29 Oct 2019 18:36 #25 by Ibogaine
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Laffy wrote: I put a £10 note in the poppy tin in Corbridge today


Fair play to you Mr L.

Fancy another ten squid wager? I am guessing you are tipping a Tory majority?

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29 Oct 2019 19:08 #26 by bruntonpete
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That little poisonous carrot Sturgeon lowered the age to 16 thinking all the teens would be there to help get Scotland independence. They didn't.
I think the Tories are scared of the unknown with the possibility of the youth going against them as for every William Hague teenager, there is ten like Kevin and Perry. JC will be willing to take that risk as he is unlikely to win without a huge shift in public opinion.

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29 Oct 2019 19:39 #27 by Mr Quint
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Election! I ask you. A pointless waste or time. I think straight forward ordinary men on their living Eaton should by rights be given a seat in the house.

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29 Oct 2019 19:46 - 29 Oct 2019 19:47 #28 by thesilentone
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The good thing is, I think we all know we are being spun a yarn by whoever we vote for, the young ones still have faith.

The World is a crock of sxxte at the moment, it appears after watching last nights Panorama, the best market to be in is Drugs and Gold.

I suppose us mere mortals will have to settle for a good old argument about the NHS, we are a naive lot.
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29 Oct 2019 19:51 #29 by CCU
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Shame Gordon Brown sold a rake of Gold!

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29 Oct 2019 20:01 - 29 Oct 2019 20:02 #30 by CCU
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Labour Amendment 2 to change the Date to Mon 9th Dec has failed:


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29 Oct 2019 20:23 - 29 Oct 2019 20:24 #31 by CCU
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Thurs 12th Dec it is. Game on!


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29 Oct 2019 20:55 #32 by Bluedazblue
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Ibogaine wrote: Don't necessarily agree with lowering the voting age, but 18 does seem a bit arbitrary when you can drive at 17 and join the army at 16.


You have to get a parent's or guardian's permission to join the army at 16.

So taking that to its logical conclusion, 16 year olds would have to get permission to vote

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29 Oct 2019 21:00 #33 by Taffy-P
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Simple guide who to vote for

If your a millionaire or stupid vote Conservative

The rest of us vote Labour
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29 Oct 2019 21:02 #34 by Laffy
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£100 for Tory majority.If I lose, it goes to Deaf and Blind children charity

I reckon this could be ten years of Tory rule to 2029

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29 Oct 2019 21:17 #35 by Alan
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In the eyes of criminal law your still a child till your 18 and protected accordingly rightly so too.
This should apply for the right to vote 18 is sensible any younger and it gets silly.
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29 Oct 2019 21:47 #36 by Taffy-P
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Alan wrote: In the eyes of criminal law your still a child till your 18 and protected accordingly rightly so too.
This should apply for the right to vote 18 is sensible any younger and it gets silly.

If your a member of the Conservative party you can vote for the leader at 16 (I know there will be very few) You pay income tax at 16 You can join the services at 16 die for you country but can’t vote

I would not let anyone over 60 vote

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29 Oct 2019 21:53 - 29 Oct 2019 21:56 #37 by seesaw50
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Cant be many earning over min Wage at 16 to pay tax Taffy or 16 year olds dieing in battle either...know what your saying tho, doesn't mean its right

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29 Oct 2019 22:36 #38 by munchymagic
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Taffy-P wrote:

Alan wrote: In the eyes of criminal law your still a child till your 18 and protected accordingly rightly so too.
This should apply for the right to vote 18 is sensible any younger and it gets silly.

If your a member of the Conservative party you can vote for the leader at 16 (I know there will be very few) You pay income tax at 16 You can join the services at 16 die for you country but can’t vote

I would not let anyone over 60 vote


"I would not let anyone over 60 vote"

This did make me laugh -especially because I know you really did mean it :D

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29 Oct 2019 23:19 - 29 Oct 2019 23:24 #39 by Bluedazblue
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Taffy-P wrote:

Alan wrote: In the eyes of criminal law your still a child till your 18 and protected accordingly rightly so too.
This should apply for the right to vote 18 is sensible any younger and it gets silly.

If your a member of the Conservative party you can vote for the leader at 16 (I know there will be very few) You pay income tax at 16 You can join the services at 16 die for you country but can’t vote

I would not let anyone over 60 vote


That's just daft.

You can pay income tax at any age. Child actors for example can pay tax if they earn enough however young they are. Should a child be allowed to vote if the kid is 8 year old and earning enough from acting in a Harry Potter film?

And 16 year old soldiers are not put on the front line.
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29 Oct 2019 23:48 #40 by High Street
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Workington Man, is the voter demographic to target, apparently.

Just offer free jam?
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29 Oct 2019 23:55 #41 by Bluedazblue
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Taffy-P wrote:

Alan wrote: In the eyes of criminal law your still a child till your 18 and protected accordingly rightly so too.
This should apply for the right to vote 18 is sensible any younger and it gets silly.

If your a member of the Conservative party you can vote for the leader at 16 (I know there will be very few) You pay income tax at 16 You can join the services at 16 die for you country but can’t vote

I would not let anyone over 60 vote


On second thoughts maybe this is a good idea. Corbyn could become PM, but he wouldn't be allowed to vote.

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30 Oct 2019 01:54 #42 by Urban Designer
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Taffy-P wrote:

Alan wrote: In the eyes of criminal law your still a child till your 18 and protected accordingly rightly so too.
This should apply for the right to vote 18 is sensible any younger and it gets silly.

If your a member of the Conservative party you can vote for the leader at 16 (I know there will be very few) You pay income tax at 16 You can join the services at 16 die for you country but can’t vote

I would not let anyone over 60 vote


OK youth member - The most googled question after the ref was what is the E.U?

I can guarantee that it was the youth that googled that!

The over 35's know what it is - yes we read books and studied and follow world affairs rather than get our knowledge from polarised FB shit!

The majority of people that voted for brexit wanted a hard brexit - I wouldn't let anyone vote without an economic, sociology, and politics qualification which I doubt you have!

I certainly wouldn't give a vote to a generation Z who hadn't even left his nest!

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30 Oct 2019 08:20 #43 by ParcelPete
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Are Royal Mail still going on strike ? better get the ballot papers sent out sharpish.

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30 Oct 2019 08:21 #44 by HuntingHorn
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This could honestly be the first GE since I was able to vote I may not.

I can't support Labour
I can't trust the Tories
The Greens are slightly mental
Liberals are not likely to back up anything they promise, they won't get in anyway
Farage is a closet Nazi
Independents are a waste of a vote unless you know they're capable of actually representing your area well in Westminster which is unlikely against the big parties
That leaves nothing....

I'm voting Brewster... NONE OF THE ABOVE

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30 Oct 2019 08:51 #45 by pacirv
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If people consider Boris and his right wing cronies or Farage as the best bet to run this country then god help us all. Hope you can all afford to pay for private medical care.
After the last few years of Tory rule given what they have achieved or more to the point failed to achieve it beggars belief that anyone would wish to give them another five years in office to finish off the destruction of our once proud country. Not a fan of Corbyn but really it is time for change. It should be about policies not people.
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30 Oct 2019 08:54 #46 by High Street
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Urban Designer wrote:

Taffy-P wrote:

Alan wrote: In the eyes of criminal law your still a child till your 18 and protected accordingly rightly so too.
This should apply for the right to vote 18 is sensible any younger and it gets silly.

If your a member of the Conservative party you can vote for the leader at 16 (I know there will be very few) You pay income tax at 16 You can join the services at 16 die for you country but can’t vote

I would not let anyone over 60 vote


OK youth member - The most googled question after the ref was what is the E.U?

I can guarantee that it was the youth that googled that!

The over 35's know what it is - yes we read books and studied and follow world affairs rather than get our knowledge from polarised FB shit!

The majority of people that voted for brexit wanted a hard brexit - I wouldn't let anyone vote without an economic, sociology, and politics qualification which I doubt you have!

I certainly wouldn't give a vote to a generation Z who hadn't even left his nest!


They’ll have to leave their safe space for more than a few minutes, and the polling station might not have universal toilets, in case they’re identifying as a polka dot skinned Sasquatch that day.

I did read somewhere that the party with the fastest growing young party membership, is the conservatives.

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30 Oct 2019 09:00 #47 by Moylesey
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High Street wrote:

Urban Designer wrote:

Taffy-P wrote:

Alan wrote: I did read somewhere that the party with the fastest growing young party membership, is the conservatives.


This is true. It's doubled - to 12.

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30 Oct 2019 09:02 #48 by Whiteside
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Daily mail reporting the Tories are battling for the vote of 'workington man' ,white older men in leave backing constituencies. This could get very embarrassing for us out west as the local numpties will start to
get interviewed on sky news.,also we will have the pleasure of listening to the narcissistic Tory boy Jenkinson who after switching allegiance a few times ,stopped the new stadium being built and now manipulated his way to be the conservative candidate
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30 Oct 2019 10:14 #49 by AlbertRoss
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Re younger voters, most of the current cabinet do seem to have a mental age of about 16 to be fair.
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30 Oct 2019 12:34 #50 by HuntingHorn
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Anyone advocating a Labour government must be on strong drugs...
Dianne Abbott at Home Secretary??
Jesus wept...
From the frying pan to the fire springs to mind...at least Sajid can tie his own shoe laces without causing a catastrophy.

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