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04 Dec 2019 15:15 #951 by sirjimmyglass
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sirjimmyglass wrote: So you're Prime Minister the day after the referendum. Do you just rip up the EU membership card and move on?


I’d ask David Cameron but he legged it when his side lost, leaving a complete mess behind having done sod all prep in case Leave won!


Ok then, the day after Cameron legged it you become Prime Minister. Do you just rip up the EU membership card and move on?

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04 Dec 2019 15:29 #952 by CCU
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sirjimmyglass wrote:

CCU wrote:

sirjimmyglass wrote: So you're Prime Minister the day after the referendum. Do you just rip up the EU membership card and move on?


I’d ask David Cameron but he legged it when his side lost, leaving a complete mess behind having done sod all prep in case Leave won!


Ok then, the day after Cameron legged it you become Prime Minister. Do you just rip up the EU membership card and move on?


No. You tell the EU you’ll be activating Article 50 as per the rules very shortly, then invite them for cordial talks regarding the withdrawal stating you’re more than happy to pay anything you’re legally signed up to and look forward to a future working together as neighbours.

The moment they start getting arsey you simply declare the talks over and wish them well.

The problem since the result of the referendum is we’ve pussy footed around, meek as can be, daring not to upset them!

We’re the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, the fifth biggest economy in the world, we should’ve acted as such from day one...

Win or Lose, Up The Blues!
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04 Dec 2019 15:45 #953 by sirjimmyglass
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CCU wrote:

sirjimmyglass wrote:

CCU wrote:

sirjimmyglass wrote: So you're Prime Minister the day after the referendum. Do you just rip up the EU membership card and move on?


I’d ask David Cameron but he legged it when his side lost, leaving a complete mess behind having done sod all prep in case Leave won!


Ok then, the day after Cameron legged it you become Prime Minister. Do you just rip up the EU membership card and move on?


No. You tell the EU you’ll be activating Article 50 as per the rules very shortly, then invite them for cordial talks regarding the withdrawal stating you’re more than happy to pay anything you’re legally signed up to and look forward to a future working together as neighbours.

The moment they start getting arsey you simply declare the talks over and wish them well.

The problem since the result of the referendum is we’ve pussy footed around, meek as can be, daring not to upset them!

We’re the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, the fifth biggest economy in the world, we should’ve acted as such from day one...


Ok great, we're off to a good start! We've sat down with the EU for cordial talks and we tell them what we're hoping to achieve from the talks. They very politely disclose the fee that they believe Britain are required to pay and what they require in terms of movement of people and goods, but unfortunately we're not quite on the same page with any of those things.

But wait! Bugger! We're going to need to find a compromise! Nobody said anything about compromise! The talks end very abruptly, because we're the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and we definitely did not vote for a compromise.

What now?

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04 Dec 2019 15:52 #954 by CCU
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We Leave.

Brexit done...

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04 Dec 2019 16:45 #955 by NORTHERNSOUL
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Mammoth wrote:

Dentonholmersimpson wrote:

Mammoth wrote:

Dentonholmersimpson wrote: Corbyn,Mcdonell, Abbott, Thornbury, Starmer, Gardiner and all the rest of the shadow cabinet can be found on You Tube or whatever a year or so back, saying '' We are leaving the EU''.

Liars to a man. Sorry, can't say that anymore. Liars to what ever I identify as, today.


Boris and Co said that as well so in the context of this GE I'm not sure of your point? In 2017, when she had no majority, if May had sat down with Labour to work out a Brexit that everyone could live with we'd be out by now. Boris had a (terrible) deal that had passed through parliament and if he'd given parliament more than 3 days to scrutinise it we could have been out by January as well but instead he went on strike and called this election.

Now, Labour will work out the Brexit deal that can reunite the country and have it sorted in 6 months.


How on God's earth will Corbyn's Idea of having a vote for Remain against a vote to leave on the deal that is tantamount to staying in the EU
reunite the country, If there is a second referendum and either of those options win I, along with millions of others won't feel reunited, I will feel totally betrayed.

As for who is the most pro Russia, well pardon me, but I will always vote for a leader that will put this countries well being ahead of some bugger else's.


Do the Tories and their rich backers (including the Russian establishment) put Britain's well being first when they carve up services and infrastructure, which have been built by the British tax payer, and hand them over to a foreign government to run?Are they putting us first when they threaten to leave the country rather than pay their fair contribution to the society that made them rich?

How did Tory undermining of international law so that their could be no effective coalition against Russia (and in particularly the Russian establishment who back the Conservative party to the tune of £3.5m) look after our well being?

A Labour soft Brexit isn't what everyone wanted, including myself, but it's a compromise that reflects the 52:48 mandate. I think the upcoming referendum could have a big majority for it. If we want further separation in the longer term then we should take it as a starting point and campaign to win people over to our point of view.

Labour will put human rights, international law and tackling climate change at the heart of our international policies, and use our global influence to end the ‘bomb first, talk later’ approach to security. Patriotism is about supporting each other, not attacking somebody else.


And that is why you wont get elected 17.4 million people want to someone get on with kicking out as many foreigners as possible and making the lives of those left and a bit harder to shift much more difficult then they might realise theyre neither wanted or needed

A quadrupling of the Border Force budget would e a bloody good place to start.

And if Big Nige comes out of it with the balance of power expect it to start sooner rather than later
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04 Dec 2019 16:58 #956 by NORTHERNSOUL
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thesilentone wrote: But it's still a fact, like it or not. No shades of Grey, we voted out, end of.

No compromises, no hard, soft or medium rare. Out !!!

The Libundem knows she does not have a snowballs chance in hell of revoking article 50, she is trading for the in vote, she hopes will leave Labour and the Tories due to dithering.

Out is out, and to try and coerce, persuade, compromise, negotiate then referendum, then argue against the result if it's not what you want, is the rock Jezza will perish on.


And the biggest mistake that they made was once article 50 was passed [ which it was with a massive majority] the negotiating should have been handed back to leaveEU who won Big Nige and Arron would have had us out in a week and Junker and Barnier would be looking for a medical facility that specialises in the treatment and repair of extra arseholes.

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04 Dec 2019 17:04 #957 by NORTHERNSOUL
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orfc wrote: Next week, Prime Minister Corbyn will finally clarify his position


Next week Jeremy Corbyn will be back in the gutter where he belongs with his scum momentum mates and then watch his loyal lieutenants jump ship as the moderates get their act back together.

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04 Dec 2019 17:06 #958 by Kessler
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NORTHERNSOUL wrote:

orfc wrote: Next week, Prime Minister Corbyn will finally clarify his position


Next week Jeremy Corbyn will be back in the gutter where he belongs with his scum momentum mates and then watch his loyal lieutenants jump ship as the moderates get their act back together.


Why are they scum?

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04 Dec 2019 17:10 #959 by NORTHERNSOUL
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CCU wrote:

sirjimmyglass wrote:

CCU wrote:

sirjimmyglass wrote: So you're Prime Minister the day after the referendum. Do you just rip up the EU membership card and move on?


I’d ask David Cameron but he legged it when his side lost, leaving a complete mess behind having done sod all prep in case Leave won!


Ok then, the day after Cameron legged it you become Prime Minister. Do you just rip up the EU membership card and move on?


No. You tell the EU you’ll be activating Article 50 as per the rules very shortly, then invite them for cordial talks regarding the withdrawal stating you’re more than happy to pay anything you’re legally signed up to and look forward to a future working together as neighbours.

The moment they start getting arsey you simply declare the talks over and wish them well.

The problem since the result of the referendum is we’ve pussy footed around, meek as can be, daring not to upset them!

We’re the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, the fifth biggest economy in the world, we should’ve acted as such from day one...


Never mind [censored] cordial talks we just remind them that we are Britain the superior race and they'll do as they're [censored] told or else
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04 Dec 2019 17:17 #960 by Kessler
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NORTHERNSOUL wrote: Never mind [censored] cordial talks we just remind them that we are Britain the superior race and they'll do as they're [censored] told or else


You really are a disgrace.

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04 Dec 2019 17:38 #961 by NORTHERNSOUL
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Kessler wrote:

NORTHERNSOUL wrote: Never mind [censored] cordial talks we just remind them that we are Britain the superior race and they'll do as they're [censored] told or else


You really are a disgrace.


A bit like the fans should be doing to Jenkins and co come to think of it

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04 Dec 2019 21:30 #962 by Mammoth
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Mammoth wrote: A Labour soft Brexit isn't what everyone wanted, including myself, but it's a compromise that reflects the 52:48 mandate.


There was nothing on my voting slip in 2016 about ‘soft’ Brexit and certainly no mention of ‘compromise’! This whole soft/hard is a load of codswallop.

We voted to leave the European Union, but the few (MP’s) have tried to stop the many (The 52%) from seeing their wish implemented...


I agree with all you've said there but the points you've left out are important as well.

The few MP's that have tried to stop the many include plenty of Conservatives, including Boris Johnson himself at times. Once they'd bunged £1billion to the DUP they did have a majority after all so the complete balls up they've made of delivering Brexit has been entirely their fault.

There was nothing on our voting slips about hard or soft Brexit, or no deal either. Many may have been comfortable with no deal but many would voted thinking that there is no way that no deal could happen and thinking that a Norway option or such like was most likely. Also, many people who voted for remain were also dissatisfied with our membership of the EU but they considered remain to be the safer option of two bad choices.

Only Labour is willing to reach across the Brexit divide to heal society. I reckon there is maybe 75% dissatisfaction with the status quo and Labour's safe Brexit deal that protects jobs, rights and the environment, avoids a hard border in Northern Ireland or the Irish Sea and protects the Good Friday Agreement, could get a big majority in the upcoming referendum.

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04 Dec 2019 21:49 #963 by CCU
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There won’t be any upcoming referendum...

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04 Dec 2019 21:59 #964 by Mammoth
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Laffy wrote: I doubt human rights and international law register with 99pc of the population Mammoth. Everytime we try to foist democracy on foreigners, we end up with a chaotic war


I'd hope more than 1% of the population are bothered about it but I take your point. I think most will agree, like you say, that our failed military interventions in recent times have caused chaos, and that we should only go into future foreign wars where necessary to protect the security of people in the UK.

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04 Dec 2019 22:18 #965 by High Street
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Labour. Iraq.
Thats all you need to know.

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04 Dec 2019 22:19 #966 by Dentonholmersimpson
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Mammoth wrote:

CCU wrote:

Mammoth wrote: A Labour soft Brexit isn't what everyone wanted, including myself, but it's a compromise that reflects the 52:48 mandate.


There was nothing on my voting slip in 2016 about ‘soft’ Brexit and certainly no mention of ‘compromise’! This whole soft/hard is a load of codswallop.

We voted to leave the European Union, but the few (MP’s) have tried to stop the many (The 52%) from seeing their wish implemented...


I agree with all you've said there but the points you've left out are important as well.

The few MP's that have tried to stop the many include plenty of Conservatives, including Boris Johnson himself at times. Once they'd bunged £1billion to the DUP they did have a majority after all so the complete balls up they've made of delivering Brexit has been entirely their fault.

There was nothing on our voting slips about hard or soft Brexit, or no deal either. Many may have been comfortable with no deal but many would voted thinking that there is no way that no deal could happen and thinking that a Norway option or such like was most likely. Also, many people who voted for remain were also dissatisfied with our membership of the EU but they considered remain to be the safer option of two bad choices.

Only Labour is willing to reach across the Brexit divide to heal society. I reckon there is maybe 75% dissatisfaction with the status quo and Labour's safe Brexit deal that protects jobs, rights and the environment, avoids a hard border in Northern Ireland or the Irish Sea and protects the Good Friday Agreement, could get a big majority in the upcoming referendum.


There is no such thing as reaching over the Brexit divide to heal society, their policy will just create more division, anybody who believes it is seriously deluded.

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04 Dec 2019 22:23 #967 by Mammoth
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NORTHERNSOUL wrote:

Mammoth wrote:
Do the Tories and their rich backers (including the Russian establishment) put Britain's well being first when they carve up services and infrastructure, which have been built by the British tax payer, and hand them over to a foreign government to run?Are they putting us first when they threaten to leave the country rather than pay their fair contribution to the society that made them rich?

How did Tory undermining of international law so that their could be no effective coalition against Russia (and in particularly the Russian establishment who back the Conservative party to the tune of £3.5m) look after our well being?

A Labour soft Brexit isn't what everyone wanted, including myself, but it's a compromise that reflects the 52:48 mandate. I think the upcoming referendum could have a big majority for it. If we want further separation in the longer term then we should take it as a starting point and campaign to win people over to our point of view.

Labour will put human rights, international law and tackling climate change at the heart of our international policies, and use our global influence to end the ‘bomb first, talk later’ approach to security. Patriotism is about supporting each other, not attacking somebody else.


And that is why you wont get elected 17.4 million people want to someone get on with kicking out as many foreigners as possible and making the lives of those left and a bit harder to shift much more difficult then they might realise theyre neither wanted or needed

A quadrupling of the Border Force budget would e a bloody good place to start.

And if Big Nige comes out of it with the balance of power expect it to start sooner rather than later


I think you're probably in a small minority there tbh. I was one of the 17.4 million leavers and your vision is certainly not what I'm looking for. A sensible and sustainable immigration policy which ends the Tory use of mass immigration as a tool to undermine workers rights is what I would like and Labour will deliver.

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04 Dec 2019 23:19 #968 by topstepwhinger
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And therein lies the problem - for every leaver with a rational reason for leaving, there is a racist bigot with their insular, little Englander caveman mentality.
No-one is going to be happy with whatever deal or no deal ensues....so why bother!
Lets just call the whole thing off.

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05 Dec 2019 00:30 #969 by Flatcap
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As long as the government pays money into the NHS it will be political

The election next week will be the third in four and a half years.
It is three and a half years since the referendum.
Next week an extra 2 million voters will be eligible to vote that couldn't in the referendum.
A similar number who voted in the referendum can not now vote in next weeks election.

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05 Dec 2019 03:01 - 05 Dec 2019 05:33 #970 by NORTHERNSOUL
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topstepwhinger wrote: And therein lies the problem - for every leaver with a rational reason for leaving, there is a racist bigot with their insular, little Englander caveman mentality.
No-one is going to be happy with whatever deal or no deal ensues....so why bother!
Lets just call the whole thing off.


Or then again you soft arsed little remainer shits could just crawl back into your holes and let those of us willing to do the hard yards remove the foreigners from our country and get on with making Britain great again.
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05 Dec 2019 07:54 #971 by Mammoth
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topstepwhinger wrote: And therein lies the problem - for every leaver with a rational reason for leaving, there is a racist bigot with their insular, little Englander caveman mentality.
No-one is going to be happy with whatever deal or no deal ensues....so why bother!
Lets just call the whole thing off.


Even more than there's no mandate for no deal, there's no mandate for remain either. That sort of two fingers to the people remain extremism would undermine our democracy and fuel the far right's hatred.

You would of course be able to campaign for Remain in the upcoming referendum but, unless the Remain side has a credible plan for reform of the EU this time, I don't think they stand a chance as there is massive dissatisfaction with the status quo in this country.

Any fair minded person understands the need for compromise sometimes. Labour's compromise Brexit can be lived with by most and can bring the country back together.

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05 Dec 2019 08:02 #972 by Laffy
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As always with Brexit debate, there is a steady drift away from the central point, probably because of passage of time.

To remind all, we had a vote.Leave won and the main parties promised to honour it.Any new vote would be boycotted by leave voters like me.

And can we stop the term ‘peoples vote’ The people voted in the last one.

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05 Dec 2019 08:08 #973 by Laffy
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And if you want an example of a unionised country, look no further than France.National strike-again.Funnily enough because it’s Xmas
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05 Dec 2019 10:04 #974 by High Street
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Mammoth wrote:

NORTHERNSOUL wrote:

Mammoth wrote:
Do the Tories and their rich backers (including the Russian establishment) put Britain's well being first when they carve up services and infrastructure, which have been built by the British tax payer, and hand them over to a foreign government to run?Are they putting us first when they threaten to leave the country rather than pay their fair contribution to the society that made them rich?

How did Tory undermining of international law so that their could be no effective coalition against Russia (and in particularly the Russian establishment who back the Conservative party to the tune of £3.5m) look after our well being?

A Labour soft Brexit isn't what everyone wanted, including myself, but it's a compromise that reflects the 52:48 mandate. I think the upcoming referendum could have a big majority for it. If we want further separation in the longer term then we should take it as a starting point and campaign to win people over to our point of view.

Labour will put human rights, international law and tackling climate change at the heart of our international policies, and use our global influence to end the ‘bomb first, talk later’ approach to security. Patriotism is about supporting each other, not attacking somebody else.


And that is why you wont get elected 17.4 million people want to someone get on with kicking out as many foreigners as possible and making the lives of those left and a bit harder to shift much more difficult then they might realise theyre neither wanted or needed

A quadrupling of the Border Force budget would e a bloody good place to start.

And if Big Nige comes out of it with the balance of power expect it to start sooner rather than later


I think you're probably in a small minority there tbh. I was one of the 17.4 million leavers and your vision is certainly not what I'm looking for. A sensible and sustainable immigration policy which ends the Tory use of mass immigration as a tool to undermine workers rights is what I would like and Labour will deliver.


Are you 16? It was Labour that opened the door to mass immigration. Trying to blame it on ‘Tory immigration to undermine workers’ rights’ is complete revisionism. I’d wager that if imigration capping has ever been discussed before, youd be the first jumping up and down screaming racism.
Anyway, l’m sure the Labour policy of Remain, will not cut any immigration at all, seeing as its a part of EU membership.

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05 Dec 2019 10:16 #975 by orfc
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High Street wrote:

Mammoth wrote:

NORTHERNSOUL wrote:

Mammoth wrote:
Do the Tories and their rich backers (including the Russian establishment) put Britain's well being first when they carve up services and infrastructure, which have been built by the British tax payer, and hand them over to a foreign government to run?Are they putting us first when they threaten to leave the country rather than pay their fair contribution to the society that made them rich?

How did Tory undermining of international law so that their could be no effective coalition against Russia (and in particularly the Russian establishment who back the Conservative party to the tune of £3.5m) look after our well being?

A Labour soft Brexit isn't what everyone wanted, including myself, but it's a compromise that reflects the 52:48 mandate. I think the upcoming referendum could have a big majority for it. If we want further separation in the longer term then we should take it as a starting point and campaign to win people over to our point of view.

Labour will put human rights, international law and tackling climate change at the heart of our international policies, and use our global influence to end the ‘bomb first, talk later’ approach to security. Patriotism is about supporting each other, not attacking somebody else.


And that is why you wont get elected 17.4 million people want to someone get on with kicking out as many foreigners as possible and making the lives of those left and a bit harder to shift much more difficult then they might realise theyre neither wanted or needed

A quadrupling of the Border Force budget would e a bloody good place to start.

And if Big Nige comes out of it with the balance of power expect it to start sooner rather than later


I think you're probably in a small minority there tbh. I was one of the 17.4 million leavers and your vision is certainly not what I'm looking for. A sensible and sustainable immigration policy which ends the Tory use of mass immigration as a tool to undermine workers rights is what I would like and Labour will deliver.


Are you 16? It was Labour that opened the door to mass immigration. Trying to blame it on ‘Tory immigration to undermine workers’ rights’ is complete revisionism. I’d wager that if imigration capping has ever been discussed before, youd be the first jumping up and down screaming racism.
Anyway, l’m sure the Labour policy of Remain, will not cut any immigration at all, seeing as its a part of EU membership.



Freedom of movement's been part of the EU since the early days, did you not watch Auf Wiedersehen Pet? It was formalised later by the Maastricht Agreement in 1992, signed by John Major's conservative government. The later Lisbon Treaty just iced the cake.

And if it's non-eu immigration you're talking about, leaving the eu or not will change nothing there.

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05 Dec 2019 11:35 #976 by Laffy
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The gig economy works: 99pc of people are happy with their contract

So says the latest ONS report on zero hours contracts

Another Marko and Corbyn myth explodes

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05 Dec 2019 12:56 #977 by Chilledsilly
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Hahaha..... yeh right !

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05 Dec 2019 13:01 #978 by Laffy
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I shit ye not!

99pc of zero hours contract workers are happy with their status.Office for National Stats-not the Tory party

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05 Dec 2019 13:08 #979 by NORTHERNSOUL
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Laffy wrote: I shit ye not!

99pc of zero hours contract workers are happy with their status.Office for National Stats-not the Tory party


If the people who are doing them are Happy then thats fine

But the DWP should not be able to sanction people for refusing anything less than say 32 hours a week.

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05 Dec 2019 13:24 #980 by thesilentone
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Although the satisfied of very satisfied on zero hours contracts is high (higher than those on full-time contracts) the numbers are falling since the referendum and now represent less than 3% of the employed.

The depressing thing is, almost half of the UK unemployed offered zero hours contracts have turned them down. Which is more than likely due to negative politicising. (or they are just lazy bxxgers)

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05 Dec 2019 13:36 #981 by thesilentone
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Not political, but I would keep an eye on Ellon Musk for the next few days.

Wonder what the Yanks will do about one of the biggest industrialists.

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05 Dec 2019 15:37 #982 by NORTHERNSOUL
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thesilentone wrote: Although the satisfied of very satisfied on zero hours contracts is high (higher than those on full-time contracts) the numbers are falling since the referendum and now represent less than 3% of the employed.

The depressing thing is, almost half of the UK unemployed offered zero hours contracts have turned them down. Which is more than likely due to negative politicising. (or they are just lazy bxxgers)


A lot of that is due to more of the real gig economy jobs [ taxi driving and food delivering etc etc ] now being made available as self-employed positions rather than zero-hours contracts which allow the people concerned to declare lots more costs as expenses.

Most of the ones left are now in warehousing with companies like Amazon and Sports Direct.

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05 Dec 2019 16:09 #983 by Kessler
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thesilentone wrote: Which is more than likely due to negative politicising. (or they are just lazy bxxgers)


Zero hour contracts place all the usual expectations on a worker as a regular contract, but with none of the rights or protections. How can someone plan ahead when they are on a contract like that, how can they get a mortgage or maybe a loan for a car when they don't even have guaranteed shifts next week? How can you ever relax when you don't know if you will have an income, or what that income will be from one day to the next?

Not sure about where Laffy is sourcing this claim that 99% are happy with their work, but I remember there was a documentary about Uber not so long ago after they claimed a similarly high number of staff were happy with their work and it turned out to be untrue.

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05 Dec 2019 20:00 #984 by Chilledsilly
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I wish I was on a zero hrs contract .... lifes so mundane ,knowing what hrs your working..and payed holidays ..and sick pay..etc ....

Oh ...I wish I was zero hrs like all the others that are so happy and loving them ....
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05 Dec 2019 20:19 #985 by orfc
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Things closing in on Bozo

Polls show his party's lead is slipping

Polls show is own seat in Uxbridge is in danger

And the BBC have just sent him the equivalent of a youtube diss track - "Come at me bro"

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05 Dec 2019 20:27 #986 by Alan
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Pure fantasy Orfc pure fantasy.

I'll even quote that rag you love so much.

Enjoy Brexit too.

It's all over son.

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05 Dec 2019 20:32 #987 by howoldboy
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You've done it again Al. Control yourself.
Hope you're wearing bike clips.

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05 Dec 2019 20:58 #988 by Alan
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howoldboy wrote: You've done it again Al. Control yourself.
Hope you're wearing bike clips.




Keep it up deluded lad 7 days till you and your pals to go into hiding :-D
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05 Dec 2019 22:28 #989 by whytakemypostcode
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"GET BREXIT DONE" shouts Boris and his chums. Oh how the masses who want Brexit completed and to go away are clueless...

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-50222315

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05 Dec 2019 23:06 #990 by Dentonholmersimpson
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whytakemypostcode wrote: "GET BREXIT DONE" shouts Boris and his chums. Oh how the masses who want Brexit completed and to go away are clueless...

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-50222315


Another, even more desperate ploy from remoaners, this has always been the case, we've known this was the first phase since 2016, it is just now it is being made an issue to try and overturn the democratic will of the majority.

And when we do leave it will be goodnight Jeremy. But I may be wrong because I am clueless.

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06 Dec 2019 00:03 #991 by Mammoth
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Are you 16? It was Labour that opened the door to mass immigration. Trying to blame it on ‘Tory immigration to undermine workers’ rights’ is complete revisionism. I’d wager that if imigration capping has ever been discussed before, youd be the first jumping up and down screaming racism.
Anyway, l’m sure the Labour policy of Remain, will not cut any immigration at all, seeing as its a part of EU membership.


I've said that and I put up the graph that shows it but the Conservatives have no intention of reducing mass immigration as it keeps pay down for low skilled workers so they are lying again about this while letting immigration peak under their watch.

www.migrationwatchuk.org/statistics-net-migration-statistics

Blair's New Labour was a neoliberal party that had abandoned the working class and implemented Conservative style policies. Corbyn's Labour isn't so if you want to see sustainable levels of immigration then you need to vote for real change with Labour.

Here's what Boris Johnson thinks of working people by the way, "drunk, criminal, aimless, feckless and hopeless”.



Labour looks after workers and will stand up to the privileged to start making this country work for all of us .

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06 Dec 2019 00:18 #992 by NORTHERNSOUL
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Mammoth wrote:

High Street wrote:
Are you 16? It was Labour that opened the door to mass immigration. Trying to blame it on ‘Tory immigration to undermine workers’ rights’ is complete revisionism. I’d wager that if imigration capping has ever been discussed before, youd be the first jumping up and down screaming racism.
Anyway, l’m sure the Labour policy of Remain, will not cut any immigration at all, seeing as its a part of EU membership.


I've said that and I put up the graph that shows it but the Conservatives have no intention of reducing mass immigration as it keeps pay down for low skilled workers so they are lying again about this while letting immigration peak under their watch.

www.migrationwatchuk.org/statistics-net-migration-statistics

Blair's New Labour was a neoliberal party that had abandoned the working class and implemented Conservative style policies. Corbyn's Labour isn't so if you want to see sustainable levels of immigration then you need to vote for real change with Labour.

Here's what Boris Johnson thinks of working people by the way, "drunk, criminal, aimless, feckless and hopeless”.



Labour looks after workers and will stand up to the privileged to start making this country work for all of us .


VOTE BORIS TO KILL OFF CORBYN AND HIS MATES ONCE AND FOR ALL. COME ON YOU KNOW IT MAKES SENSE.

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06 Dec 2019 00:23 #993 by Dentonholmersimpson
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Even Corbyn's own supporters are admitting he is toxic on the doorstep.

However, some really brilliant economists have backed Labours manifesto, including Dianne Abbott.
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06 Dec 2019 08:57 #994 by ExiledJock
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And yet, if I was a Tory I'd be embarrassed that Johnson was the leader of my party. How many criminal investigations is he under? Four? Shouldn't be allowed to manage a car dealership, never mind a country.

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06 Dec 2019 10:44 #995 by thesilentone
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I wouldn't trust Boris with a bent nail, but at least he has some energy and enthusiasm. At the same time, this shows had sad and ineffective the competition are, who have missed a golden chance by hanging on to Jezza. McDonnel and Momentum:

www.ft.com/content/263615ca-d873-11e9-8f9b-77216ebe1f17

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06 Dec 2019 10:48 #996 by thesilentone
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I see Jezza has abandoned the NHS card, and is now trying to shine the light on the Irish Border after Brexit, and yet another
' Confidential ' leaked document.

Can he not see they are feeding him poison ?

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06 Dec 2019 12:45 #997 by Mammoth
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Would you not be ashamed to be one of the voters who helped Boris surrender Northern Ireland over from UK to EU control with his feeble deal?

Vote Labour to preserve the NHS and the Union.

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06 Dec 2019 13:02 #998 by topstepwhinger
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Yep.
Usually vote Tory, but am in a quandary this time.
Think I am going to take our friend Gina Miller's advice, and vote tactical.

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06 Dec 2019 13:16 #999 by Alan
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Mammoth wrote: Would you not be ashamed to be one of the voters who helped Boris surrender Northern Ireland over from UK to EU control with his feeble deal?

Vote Labour to preserve the NHS and the Union.


Yep let's have an anti semite in charge he could also get some of Adolfs relatives on the front bench.

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06 Dec 2019 13:40 #1000 by orfc
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Alan wrote:

Mammoth wrote: Would you not be ashamed to be one of the voters who helped Boris surrender Northern Ireland over from UK to EU control with his feeble deal?

Vote Labour to preserve the NHS and the Union.


Yep let's have an anti semite in charge he could also get some of Adolfs relatives on the front bench.


Corbyn would turn up to the opening of a palestinian envelope, but I don't see him as a true anti-semite or racist - he'd certainly be making better inroads into the tory/brexit vote if he was.

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