Jarrad Branthwaite - January Bid??

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20 Nov 2019 15:53 #101 by Waltero
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And your source

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20 Nov 2019 15:54 #102 by CUFC52
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CUFC52 wrote: Also given the base fee Exeter received for Ampadu (8 appearances) we should be asking for greater than the 1.3 million they received (they had to go to a tribuneral),


Why should we be asking for more than Exeter received for Ampadu? Is Branthwaite better? Did you see Ampadu play much?

He was in the Wales squad by the time he was 16 and was still at Exeter and he’d represented them at different age groups.


I was saying we should be looking at a similar figure not the millions that people are suggesting.

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20 Nov 2019 15:58 #103 by CCU
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Waltero wrote: And your source


It’s on Twitter:


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20 Nov 2019 16:13 #104 by Waltero
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Don't do Twitter but thanks for the info

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20 Nov 2019 16:48 #105 by Urban Designer
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Celtic won't be able to compete financially with Aston Villa or any other Premier League club for that matter.

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20 Nov 2019 17:02 #106 by franksidebottom
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CUFC52 wrote:

franksidebottom wrote:

CUFC52 wrote: Also given the base fee Exeter received for Ampadu (8 appearances) we should be asking for greater than the 1.3 million they received (they had to go to a tribuneral),


Why should we be asking for more than Exeter received for Ampadu? Is Branthwaite better? Did you see Ampadu play much?

He was in the Wales squad by the time he was 16 and was still at Exeter and he’d represented them at different age groups.


I was saying we should be looking at a similar figure not the millions that people are suggesting.


I always thought “greater than” meant “more than” as opposed to “similar”, never mind though...

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20 Nov 2019 17:03 #107 by bluestblue
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Urban Designer wrote: Celtic won't be able to compete financially with Aston Villa or any other Premier League club for that matter.


They will be able to for Branthwaite. He's not Messi.
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20 Nov 2019 17:04 #108 by franksidebottom
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Urban Designer wrote: Celtic won't be able to compete financially with Aston Villa or any other Premier League club for that matter.


Celtic will be able to afford Branthwaite, whether they can compete or not is irrelevant in this sort of transfer!

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20 Nov 2019 17:18 #109 by Urban Designer
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Not if any other Premier League team wanted him.

Most of the Scottish Prem is on par with League 2.

Aberdeen have openly admitted they can't compete with Championship clubs,

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20 Nov 2019 17:22 #110 by bluestblue
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Urban Designer wrote: Not if any other Premier League team wanted him.

Most of the Scottish Prem is on par with League 2.

Aberdeen have openly admitted they can't compete with Championship clubs,


It would be nice for CUFC, but I wouldn't think he's that good enough to start a bidding war.
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20 Nov 2019 18:01 - 20 Nov 2019 18:01 #111 by CCU
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Urban Designer wrote: Not if any other Premier League team wanted him.

Most of the Scottish Prem is on par with League 2.

Aberdeen have openly admitted they can't compete with Championship clubs,


Aberdeen haven’t had regular Group games in the Champions/Europa Leagues with crowds over 50k though.

Or sold likes of Tierney for approx £25m...

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20 Nov 2019 18:09 #112 by Happyblue
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bluestblue wrote:

Urban Designer wrote: Not if any other Premier League team wanted him.

Most of the Scottish Prem is on par with League 2.

Aberdeen have openly admitted they can't compete with Championship clubs,


It would be nice for CUFC, but I wouldn't think he's that good enough to start a bidding war.

A 17 year old centre back , playing men's football and not looking out of place ?

He'll start a bidding war as the money which will be a fortune for us is nothing for them.

Owners like the stadium, full of Sh!T
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20 Nov 2019 18:12 #113 by Urban Designer
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Crowds are irrelevant if you are competing with Premier League teams.

Bournemouth with 10k crowds have a much bigger turnover than Celtic,

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20 Nov 2019 19:56 #114 by West Cumbria United fan
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Waltero wrote: Don't do Twitter but thanks for the info

Sorry to go off topic but how many people use twitter here?

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20 Nov 2019 20:03 #115 by CCU
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Urban Designer wrote: Crowds are irrelevant if you are competing with Premier League teams.

Bournemouth with 10k crowds have a much bigger turnover than Celtic,


For whatever fee we’ll receive for JB, Celtic will be able to compete.

Wether he’d want to move to Scotland is another matter...

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20 Nov 2019 20:16 #116 by nobbyblue
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Who wouldn't want to go to Celtic?

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20 Nov 2019 20:20 #117 by West Cumbria United fan
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nobbyblue wrote: Who wouldn't want to go to Celtic?


Loyalists?
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20 Nov 2019 20:38 - 20 Nov 2019 20:39 #118 by munchymagic
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Must be well excited the lad - imagine at his age going to sleep at night thinking that firstly there is a good chance of starting at the weekend, the gate will be swelled with scouts going to see him and the clubs interested in signing him are clubs at the top and of high pedigree.

The things that dreams are made of :)
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20 Nov 2019 20:41 #119 by nobbyblue
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Aye he comes across as a very level headed lad. As long as them robbin [censored] at Leeds don't get their hands on him.

Luckily they couldn't afford him!
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20 Nov 2019 20:45 #120 by munchymagic
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Plays with a smile on his face at times, totally unfazed - last time I seen this in a young player it was Brad Potts.
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20 Nov 2019 20:53 #121 by Mullen103
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West Cumbria United fan wrote:

Waltero wrote: Don't do Twitter but thanks for the info

Sorry to go off topic but how many people use twitter here?

42

At least we’re not Stockport
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20 Nov 2019 20:53 - 20 Nov 2019 21:15 #122 by newcarlislefan
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munchymagic wrote: Must be well excited the lad - imagine at his age going to sleep at night thinking that firstly there is a good chance of starting at the weekend, the gate will be swelled with scouts going to see him and the clubs interested in signing him are clubs at the top and of high pedigree.

The things that dreams are made of :)



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20 Nov 2019 20:56 - 20 Nov 2019 20:58 #123 by carwash
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In reply to West Cumbria Utd fan. Mods this probably needs a separate thread. A lot of older people seem to think you need to be on twitter to use it. I get by perfectly well using John Colman's twitter page like any other website and clicking on CCU's twitter links without signing up.
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20 Nov 2019 21:08 #124 by Waltero
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I don't do Twitter because I don't want to use Twitter
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20 Nov 2019 21:16 #125 by pacirv
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I'm on Twitter but it does my head in you get tweets all the time and you think oh the latest news, and it turns out to be a re tweet of something that's been on the go for some time.

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20 Nov 2019 21:33 #126 by Waltero
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Exactly why I don't use it

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20 Nov 2019 21:55 #127 by Happyblue
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I use it for news and Carlisle related things , It's about like Facebook now bit dated.

Owners like the stadium, full of Sh!T

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20 Nov 2019 22:04 - 20 Nov 2019 22:05 #128 by franksidebottom
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Not on twitter but I regularly read Jon Colman’s twitter page.

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20 Nov 2019 22:11 #129 by Reopen The St Nich
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Not sure if it been mentioned on this thread and I can’t be bothered to look back, but Jarads agent is David Reeves our legendary ex centre forward.

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20 Nov 2019 22:51 #130 by Dancingbear
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CCU wrote:

Waltero wrote: And your source


It’s on Twitter:


[censored] hell Dan did that not break your phone?

There's only one way of life and that's your own!!!
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21 Nov 2019 07:08 #131 by CCU
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Reopen The St Nich wrote: Not sure if it been mentioned on this thread and I can’t be bothered to look back, but Jarads agent is David Reeves our legendary ex centre forward.


‘Legends’ don’t leave for Preston...

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21 Nov 2019 08:28 #132 by CarlisleWhite
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nobbyblue wrote: Aye he comes across as a very level headed lad. As long as them robbin [censored] at Leeds don't get their hands on him.

Luckily they couldn't afford him!

Think you're right Nobby to be fair. Fits the age profile we go for, but tends to be lower cost potential players such as Davies from Morecambe. Stevens from Forest Green (both in and around the first team), and Dalby (now at Watford) and McCarron of course (who seems to be doing well).
Tend to be £150 - 250K type punts, so doubt the £500K - 1M cost suggested is a gamble for a championship side, or at least Leeds, to take.

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21 Nov 2019 10:10 - 21 Nov 2019 10:11 #133 by CCU
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Spurs have just had a £1.75m bid for Peterborough forward Ricky-Jade Jones knocked back.

17yo, made his debut last month and most of the Premier League watching him already. Sounds familiar?

They’ve been told they may have to go to £10m for him. Never mind Ampadu, this is the barometer now.

It’s mentioned in this link:
www.sportinglife.com/football/news/paper...ne-and-stable/174290

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21 Nov 2019 10:21 #134 by paddockite
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CCU wrote: Spurs have just had a £1.75m bid for Peterborough forward Ricky-Jade Jones knocked back.

17yo, made his debut last month and most of the Premier League watching him already. Sounds familiar?

They’ve been told they may have to go to £10m for him. Never mind Ampadu, this is the barometer now.

It’s mentioned in this link:
www.sportinglife.com/football/news/paper...ne-and-stable/174290


The Ampadu one is a different one too, as it went to a tribunal, and Exeter were furious at the outcome. They'd knocked back a 3 million bid from Chelsea, so allowed it to go to a tribunal, and expected more than the 1.3million rising to 2.5 million for him.

I think for Branthwaite we need to be asking for starting bids of 2.5 million, and then whoever wants him can battle it out and bump the price up from there. We're in the driving seat as he is under contract.

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21 Nov 2019 10:47 #135 by Waltero
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Unfortunately we've got a track record of not getting good value on our sales
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21 Nov 2019 10:48 #136 by melbourneblues
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CCU wrote: Spurs have just had a £1.75m bid for Peterborough forward Ricky-Jade Jones knocked back.

17yo, made his debut last month and most of the Premier League watching him already. Sounds familiar?

They’ve been told they may have to go to £10m for him. Never mind Ampadu, this is the barometer now.

It’s mentioned in this link:
www.sportinglife.com/football/news/paper...ne-and-stable/174290


Surely a forward will command more than a centre half.

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21 Nov 2019 11:19 #137 by CCU
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Agreed. £10m for a forward so we’ll say £5m for our future England Captain...

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21 Nov 2019 11:35 #138 by Waltero
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The owners will be wetting their pants if you mention sums like that

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21 Nov 2019 12:44 #139 by Urban Designer
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Surely it can't be the usual 'undisclosed sum' if there is a bidding war?

This could keep the reluctant trio here for a few more years considering our turnover must be down to around £3m a year now.

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21 Nov 2019 15:18 #140 by bigboblee
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The Elvis legacy may have one positive feature in that Branthwaite is contracted to the end of next season. This does strengthen our hand. Otherwise he would probably be already at Leeds. As it is he is now catching the attention of big clubs.

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21 Nov 2019 15:28 #141 by CarlisleWhite
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Anyone know what/who the link with Leeds is, as seems really odd that the last two promising youngsters have both ended up there with little no opposition.

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21 Nov 2019 15:34 #142 by heilkmoon
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CarlisleWhite wrote: Anyone know what/who the link with Leeds is, as seems really odd that the last two promising youngsters have both ended up there with little no opposition.


As if someone else on here could possibly know something about Leeds that you don't!

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21 Nov 2019 15:37 #143 by CUFC52
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CarlisleWhite wrote: Anyone know what/who the link with Leeds is, as seems really odd that the last two promising youngsters have both ended up there with little no opposition.


Is Ian Harte not Mccaron’s agent ?

They’ve been spending a bit on young players, signing Galloway and Mccaron for 300k (ish) is hardly a risk to them

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21 Nov 2019 15:50 #144 by CarlisleWhite
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CarlisleWhite wrote: Anyone know what/who the link with Leeds is, as seems really odd that the last two promising youngsters have both ended up there with little no opposition.


As if someone else on here could possibly know something about Leeds that you don't!

I genuinely don't know much about the Leeds youth set up Heilky. I live in Carlisle, so don't have my ear to the ground.
The u-23 set is dominated by Spaniards, which is why I can't see any logic to it.
The thing is with Leeds it used to be that everything got out, but seems to have tightened up.
Sure I read on here someone has a mate who is something to do with the youth set up.

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21 Nov 2019 15:56 #145 by CarlisleWhite
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CUFC52 wrote:

CarlisleWhite wrote: Anyone know what/who the link with Leeds is, as seems really odd that the last two promising youngsters have both ended up there with little no opposition.


Is Ian Harte not Mccaron’s agent ?

They’ve been spending a bit on young players, signing Galloway and Mccaron for 300k (ish) is hardly a risk to them

Not sure about the figures CUFC (it is double what they paid for Davis and Stevens), but you are right, they do seem to shop at that level for promising youngsters.
Not sure if Harte is his agent, but would explain why he left Carlisle - he is only interested in his own needs is Harte. He is Jack Clake's agent and was shopping him about after 2 or 3 games.

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21 Nov 2019 16:04 #146 by CUFC52
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I know Branthwaite and Mccaron certinally both have the same agent.

By all accounts Mccaron knew he was going Leeds last March / April, when he went I’ve got no doubt he’ll of put in a good word to Galloway.

Can’t see Jared ending up their, they coudnt afford him.

There’s a lot of talent in Cumbria - wise to tap into it, (Carlisle don’t do it well), look at Nick Anderton (Blackpool) and Ben Davies (PNE) for examples.
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21 Nov 2019 16:04 #147 by bigboblee
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Carlislewhite: does your phone vibrate if Leeds are mentioned. Took 10 minutes to respond to a mention of Leeds. I will confess that I supported both Carlisle and Leeds as a kid, and gave up on Leeds following a sublime finish from Mally Poskett at Brunton Park in late1983.
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21 Nov 2019 16:15 #148 by seesaw50
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CUFC52 wrote:

CarlisleWhite wrote: Anyone know what/who the link with Leeds is, as seems really odd that the last two promising youngsters have both ended up there with little no opposition.


Is Ian Harte not Mccaron’s agent ?

They’ve been spending a bit on young players, signing Galloway and Mccaron for 300k (ish) is hardly a risk to them


So where's the money then......the club have only received some of the McCarron fee so far as reported recently

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21 Nov 2019 16:16 #149 by CarlisleWhite
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bigboblee wrote: Carlislewhite: does your phone vibrate if Leeds are mentioned. Took 10 minutes to respond to a mention of Leeds. I will confess that I supported both Carlisle and Leeds as a kid, and gave up on Leeds following a sublime finish from Mally Poskett at Brunton Park in late1983.

Ha ha, no just following the takeover and manager threads, and the parallels with Branthwaite and McCarron/Galloway are clear. Usually log on a couple of times a day but bit more time on my hands for a day or two.
Back from a couple of days work abroad, so a bit bored waiting for the proper football to start again. Supposed to be working from home, but shattered after travelling back late.
Mally Poskett gave me one of my best memories following Carlisle, in the Cardiff game.

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21 Nov 2019 16:26 #150 by bigboblee
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My uncle used to take me to watch Leeds when they had promising youngsters John Sheridan and Tommy Wright. Leeds had a good youth coach then in Keith Mincher, who was Carlisle manager for a few hours under Knighton.

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