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19 Dec 2019 08:34 #101 by Laffy
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Wait till they are asked by Wee Nippy to join if she gets her way.7pc fiscal deficit-before the leave the UK, and they realise;

-no hard border at Berwick
-wee nippy wants rebates
-she won’t accept the euro

All she has to offer is fish

It’s basic economics as always.They need our trade and we need theirs

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19 Dec 2019 09:00 #102 by Markovitch
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Good to see Boris already showing his true colours. Dwp taken away the right to have your fit to work assessment automatically forwarded to your gp. Nice

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19 Dec 2019 09:02 #103 by Waltero
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Good article in today's Telegraph business supplement on Scottish independence. I hope Mrs Krankie reads it

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19 Dec 2019 09:30 #104 by Markovitch
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She doesn't read comics
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19 Dec 2019 10:43 #105 by Dancingbear
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cufcmike wrote:

Dancingbear wrote: Did you see Denise Coates pay packet for the year that was announced today at £277 million?. Great stuff eh apart from the fact they restrict your account if you look like you might win a few quid.


In fairness Bet365 are very relaxed when it comes to restrictions... They're one of the only ones I'm allowed to bet freely with nowadays. And their app is far easier to use than anyone else's.

IMO a bookie should be entitled to as much profit as they like, so long as they don't intervene with customers who might lose them money...


Lucky you Mike ;)

There's only one way of life and that's your own!!!
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19 Dec 2019 10:45 #106 by thesilentone
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I suppose it depends where you look. The Pro-EU press or a neutral. The slight rise I would put down to the free movement of people.

"Eurobarometer surveys of EU citizens show that trust in the EU and its institutions has declined strongly since a peak in 2007. Since then, it has been consistently below 50%. A 2009 survey showed that support for EU membership was lowest in the United Kingdom (UK), Latvia and Hungary. By 2016, the countries viewing the EU most unfavourably were the UK, Greece, France and Spain. A referendum on continued EU membership was held in the UK in 2016 which resulted in a 51.9% vote in favour of leaving the EU. Since 2015, trust in the EU has risen slightly in most EU countries as a result of falling unemployment rates and accelerating economic growth. Post 2019 election survey "Eurobarometer" report showed that 68% citizens support the European Union, the highest level since 1983; at the same time sentiment among Europeans that things are not going in the right direction in both the EU and in their own countries had increased to 50%."

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19 Dec 2019 10:46 #107 by High Street
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Markovitch wrote: She doesn't read comics


I’m sure she does read The National.

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19 Dec 2019 10:56 #108 by Waltero
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Dandy and Beano more likely

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19 Dec 2019 10:59 #109 by thesilentone
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As much as I am no Trump fan, I can't help thinking the Democrats have made a big mistake impeaching him.

It's all a bit like the Court Case against Boris for proroguing Parliament.

I can't see anything other than the Trump machine now pointing their guns at Pelosi.

Anyone who thinks Politicians get there own way without some back-stabbing, bullying and miss-truths are kidding themselves, and the Yanks will be as bad as anybody.

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19 Dec 2019 11:49 #110 by Markovitch
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From wiki
In 1993, the Barclay brothers bought the tenement of the island of Brecqhou, a small sister island of Sark, one of the Channel Islands. Their mock-Gothic castle on Brecqhou, designed by Quinlan Terry, features 100-foot (30 m) granite walls, battlements, two swimming pools and a helicopter pad. Since their purchase of the tenement of Brecqhou, the Barclays have been in several legal disputes with the government of Sark over such issues as the Barclays' violation of Sark's law banning motor cars. They have also expressed a desire to make Brecqhou politically independent from Sark – building on the research of William Toplis, the painter, and others, who argued that Brecqhou was not a part of the fief of Sark.

You would think freedom fighters like the Barclays would back independence against the evil oppressive Government of a Communist regime like Sark.

The Barclay brothers are tax exiles, and although they reside, at least some of the time, in Monaco (giving Avenue de Grande Bretagne, Monte Carlo as their address) they operate their businesses from an office in the United Kingdom.[26][29] When asked if he was a tax exile, Frederick stated that he lived abroad for health reasons.[30] The corporate tax arrangements of the Ritz Hotel, which was purchased and refurbished by the brothers in 1995, was the subject of a December 2012 investigation by BBC's Panorama current affairs television programme.[31][32] The hotel has paid no corporation tax in the UK by legally claiming reliefs for 17 years.

The everyday struggle of 2 brothers with a net worth of £3bn who pay tax of £0 and who employ the Westminster prime minister. Clearly people the populace of Scotland can identify with. The Barclays can shove their article up their arses

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19 Dec 2019 12:17 #111 by thesilentone
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Thought you would be praising them Marko, a couple of Jocks that started with nothing and did good.

You missed the part about them pulling out of Sark and taking the £5.0m a year they invested causing 170 people to lose there jobs, (28% of the population) when they voted to stick by the medieval governance of the island.

I wonder how much there investment contributed to the local economy, but I suppose that's history now.

Bloody Jocks !

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19 Dec 2019 12:22 #112 by thesilentone
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...........oh, another part you missed out.

"Like many wealthy men, the brothers give huge sums to charity, donating £11m to Great Ormond Street Hospital last year, and handing £3m to Alder Hey children's hospital in Liverpool last year."

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19 Dec 2019 13:19 #114 by thesilentone
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Where's Kes, what's going on here ?

Where are the Unions when you need them ?

So, the low paid workers get the boot while the rich top dogs that caused the mess stay in place...

Labour, the home of Socialism "For the Many not the Few "...my axxe !

More like "[censored] the Few "

They don't give a flying fig !!

www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1218830/...mas-redundancy-unite

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19 Dec 2019 13:44 #115 by Laffy
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Animal Farm rewrite

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19 Dec 2019 14:40 #116 by Markovitch
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So on their £3bn fortune, they earn 150-300m a year? That would be 150-300m a year after tax. VAT-free as well on your private island. And they gave away £3m. Gosh, their generosity knows no bounds. Remind me to doff my cap.

David and Frederick don't live in Brecqhou all year, partly because it is often freezing in winter. David, who suffers from ME, spends time in Switzerland because the fresh air in the Alps helps alleviate his condition. They also have a home in Monaco, where residents have tax-free status. The brother's super-yacht, Lady Beatrice,, is moored in the principality.

You would think with ME he wouldn't be such a keen advocate to shaft the NHS. Still, thanks to their employee who changed the law, the blind, agoraphobics, OCD sufferers and other mentally ill people now can't directly get a GP to support an appeal against a right to work assessment so that should liven up certain trades, long-distance lorry driving, the post. What a charming bunch of people, born in London of course.

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19 Dec 2019 15:11 #117 by Laffy
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Did you pay UK tax whilst you were abroad/nonresident Marko?

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19 Dec 2019 15:31 #118 by thesilentone
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Markovitch wrote: So on their £3bn fortune, they earn 150-300m a year? That would be 150-300m a year after tax. VAT-free as well on your private island. And they gave away £3m. Gosh, their generosity knows no bounds. Remind me to doff my cap.

David and Frederick don't live in Brecqhou all year, partly because it is often freezing in winter. David, who suffers from ME, spends time in Switzerland because the fresh air in the Alps helps alleviate his condition. They also have a home in Monaco, where residents have tax-free status. The brother's super-yacht, Lady Beatrice,, is moored in the principality.

You would think with ME he wouldn't be such a keen advocate to shaft the NHS. Still, thanks to their employee who changed the law, the blind, agoraphobics, OCD sufferers and other mentally ill people now can't directly get a GP to support an appeal against a right to work assessment so that should liven up certain trades, long-distance lorry driving, the post. What a charming bunch of people, born in London of course.


£3.0m where did you get that from ?

£17.8m from the last entry: opencharities.org/charities/803696/accounts

In saying that, the Jock's have never been World for their generosity.

The Scots have an infallible cure for sea-sickness. They lean over the side of the ship with a ten pence coin in their teeth.
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19 Dec 2019 15:34 #119 by Markovitch
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Laffy wrote: Did you pay UK tax whilst you were abroad/nonresident Marko?


Yes

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19 Dec 2019 15:37 #120 by Laffy
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Even though non resident?How did you do that?

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19 Dec 2019 15:41 #121 by Markovitch
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UK source income is/was still subject to UK tax under UK/Russian Double Tax Agreement

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19 Dec 2019 15:44 #122 by Laffy
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Not even your salary?

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19 Dec 2019 16:31 #123 by Markovitch
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Which one?

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19 Dec 2019 18:41 #124 by Markovitch
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Anything from anything fixed in Britain ie a farm or the British government was taxed in Britain. Anything earned in Russia, salary from business, rent, work performed for British Universities was taxed in Russia. Anything earned in cis countries was at first tax free then later taxable in the UK

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19 Dec 2019 19:03 #125 by Laffy
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You’re stealing jobs with your multiple employments-shame on you Marko!

I was involved with Raven Russia-building sheds and offices around the big cities.Come across them?

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19 Dec 2019 19:07 #126 by Waltero
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I didn't pay tax when I worked abroad but I made voluntary National Insurance payments

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19 Dec 2019 19:44 #127 by Markovitch
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They owned a shopping centre. Sadko? It was very popular around the turn of the century but got overtaken by the edge of town centres. That's all I know

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19 Dec 2019 19:45 #128 by howoldboy
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Laffy wrote: You’re stealing jobs with your multiple employments-shame on you Marko!

I was involved with Raven Russia-building sheds and offices around the big cities.Come across them?


FAO Moderators. Laffy lowers the tone again. Please move this to Lanes Bogs thread.
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19 Dec 2019 22:59 #129 by melbourneblues
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It’s like logging onto a site about one of Barry’s fet nights, the unleashed forum.

Mullen is a virgin.

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20 Dec 2019 09:11 #130 by Laffy
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This one is for you Kess. It pretty much sums up what I was banging on about a few days ago-companies need a purpose beyond making a profit ie looking after staff and customers and the wider community.

Persimmon are appalling at all aspects and this kind of report confirms capitalism in all its guises needs to adjust to the needs of all.

www.ft.com/content/e1cc6cfa-2268-11ea-b8a1-584213ee7b2b

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20 Dec 2019 09:48 #131 by Markovitch
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I can feel a balanced score card coming on.

So why do we publicly acknowledge the need for social care then vote for a party that cuts that care from the old, the sick and the genuinely needy?

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20 Dec 2019 10:23 #132 by Laffy
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Simple-most of us think that Boris is best to deliver a new care system.We don’t believe a word Corbyn says


www.google.co.uk/search?q=it%27s+only+wo...=en-gb&client=safari
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20 Dec 2019 11:57 #133 by Laffy
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20 Dec 2019 14:59 #134 by Markovitch
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Having taken away the right of the disabled (and everyone else) to have their dwp assessment sent to their gp Boris has now given vast exemptions to the accessibility rules on trains. Can't appeal your fit to work assessment, can't travel by train. Nothing like hurting the disabled eh? Welcome to England 2020

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20 Dec 2019 15:35 #135 by NORTHERNSOUL
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Markovitch wrote: Having taken away the right of the disabled (and everyone else) to have their dwp assessment sent to their gp Boris has now given vast exemptions to the accessibility rules on trains. Can't appeal your fit to work assessment, can't travel by train. Nothing like hurting the disabled eh? Welcome to England 2020


About time somebody sorted out the disabled situation on trains

One disabled person can cause the cancellation of a train inconveniencing 350 other people and when they're offered a door to door taxi alternative they turn it down because the taxi hasn't got the toilet the train has.

TPE Had to scrap using three trains just because the bogs weren't compliant when some disabled woman took it legal meaning thousands of people a week lost their train services.

And then we have that loony woman who got the Welsh VirginTrain Manager sacked and then tried to use the train again forcing the staff on that one to refuse to move it if she was allowed on. Luckily on that occasion a BTP plod took her to one side for a chat while she did the train left.

Most disabled people book 48 hours in advance and it works well its just a small minority that spoil it for the rest.

I think over the next 5 years you're going to be a very angry man Marko as Boris sweeps away loads of crap that's holding this country back so maybe you can explain to me why when people get their DWP assessment results they cant just press the forward button to send them to their GP.

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20 Dec 2019 15:43 #136 by Mush
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Laffy wrote: Simple-most of us think that Boris is best to deliver a new care system.We don’t believe a word Corbyn says


www.google.co.uk/search?q=it%27s+only+wo...=en-gb&client=safari


in most people you mean you and Alan?

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20 Dec 2019 15:45 #137 by Mush
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Laffy wrote: More from Animal Farm

apple.news/AxS9splrjRCKap1oH7mNyZQ


Mods : can links for The Scum articles be banned please?

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20 Dec 2019 15:55 #138 by Mullen103
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NORTHERNSOUL wrote:

Markovitch wrote: Having taken away the right of the disabled (and everyone else) to have their dwp assessment sent to their gp Boris has now given vast exemptions to the accessibility rules on trains. Can't appeal your fit to work assessment, can't travel by train. Nothing like hurting the disabled eh? Welcome to England 2020


About time somebody sorted out the disabled situation on trains

One disabled person can cause the cancellation of a train inconveniencing 350 other people and when they're offered a door to door taxi alternative they turn it down because the taxi hasn't got the toilet the train has.

TPE Had to scrap using three trains just because the bogs weren't compliant when some disabled woman took it legal meaning thousands of people a week lost their train services.

And then we have that loony woman who got the Welsh VirginTrain Manager sacked and then tried to use the train again forcing the staff on that one to refuse to move it if she was allowed on. Luckily on that occasion a BTP plod took her to one side for a chat while she did the train left.

Most disabled people book 48 hours in advance and it works well its just a small minority that spoil it for the rest.

I think over the next 5 years you're going to be a very angry man Marko as Boris sweeps away loads of crap that's holding this country back so maybe you can explain to me why when people get their DWP assessment results they cant just press the forward button to send them to their GP.


Good old Sara - Why should she have to accept a taxi ride, taking over an hour longer, instead of going on a train with room. Her previous complaint put paid to that really, but her issue was valid.

Why can a disabled person not spontaniously go somewhere on the train, like an able bodied person can, and have to book 48 hours in advance. 2 disabled spaces per carridge is sufficient, but the issue i've seen is getting the help to use the ramps.

At least we’re not Stockport

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20 Dec 2019 16:05 #139 by Markovitch
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Mush wrote:

Laffy wrote: More from Animal Farm

apple.news/AxS9splrjRCKap1oH7mNyZQ


Mods : can links for The Scum articles be banned please?


Sounds very reasonable, this is a football board and let's remember what they said.

Three sub-headings followed the controversial headline, consisting of: "some fans picked pockets of victims", "some fans urinated on the brave cops" and "some fans beat up PC giving kiss of life".

The newspaper stated that information of Liverpool fans' supposed behaviour was fed to them by police inspector Gordon Sykes, in which he stated that Liverpool fans had pickpocketed the dead – in addition to other accusations by unnamed police officers as well as Conservative MP Irvine Patnick.


Boris Johnson has apologised for an article in the Spectator magazine in 2004 when he was editor which claimed that drunken fans were partly responsible for the Hillsborough tragedy.

Accusing Liverpudlians of wallowing in their "victim status", the editorial published in 2004 stated: "The deaths of more than 50 Liverpool football supporters at Hillsborough in 1989 was undeniably a greater tragedy than the single death, however horrible, of Mr Bigley; but that is no excuse for Liverpool's failure to acknowledge, even to this day, the part played in the disaster by drunken fans at the back of the crowd who mindlessly tried to fight their way into the ground that Saturday afternoon."


Let the organised apologies for Boris and synchronised cap doffing for our betters begin
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20 Dec 2019 16:29 #140 by NORTHERNSOUL
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Mullen103 wrote:

NORTHERNSOUL wrote:

Markovitch wrote: Having taken away the right of the disabled (and everyone else) to have their dwp assessment sent to their gp Boris has now given vast exemptions to the accessibility rules on trains. Can't appeal your fit to work assessment, can't travel by train. Nothing like hurting the disabled eh? Welcome to England 2020


About time somebody sorted out the disabled situation on trains

One disabled person can cause the cancellation of a train inconveniencing 350 other people and when they're offered a door to door taxi alternative they turn it down because the taxi hasn't got the toilet the train has.

TPE Had to scrap using three trains just because the bogs weren't compliant when some disabled woman took it legal meaning thousands of people a week lost their train services.

And then we have that loony woman who got the Welsh VirginTrain Manager sacked and then tried to use the train again forcing the staff on that one to refuse to move it if she was allowed on. Luckily on that occasion a BTP plod took her to one side for a chat while she did the train left.

Most disabled people book 48 hours in advance and it works well its just a small minority that spoil it for the rest.

I think over the next 5 years you're going to be a very angry man Marko as Boris sweeps away loads of crap that's holding this country back so maybe you can explain to me why when people get their DWP assessment results they cant just press the forward button to send them to their GP.


Good old Sara - Why should she have to accept a taxi ride, taking over an hour longer, instead of going on a train with room. Her previous complaint put paid to that really, but her issue was valid.

Why can a disabled person not spontaniously go somewhere on the train, like an able bodied person can, and have to book 48 hours in advance. 2 disabled spaces per carridge is sufficient, but the issue i've seen is getting the help to use the ramps.


They can

Just make their own arrangements like everybody else has to and in the case of a disabled person if they don't want to book assistance 48 hours in advance then take their own assistance with them there isn't a case on this planet for letting one person inconvenience the other 350 people on the train whether they're disabled or not.

Virgin missed a trick there they should have taken out an injunction and banned her from all their trains and stations you only have to read her twitter feed to see what her game is but when they didn't their staff stepped up and did their job for them and backed their colleague 100%

I think you're going to be another Marko seething with indignation Mullen because I can tell you now under Boris it will be survival of the fittest he who shouts loudest and punches the hardest will get what they which is exactly how the world should be.

Mind you I didn't have you down as a winger I saw you as someone who just got on with it. Just shows how wrong you can be eh.

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20 Dec 2019 16:31 #141 by munchymagic
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Markovitch wrote:

Mush wrote:

Laffy wrote: More from Animal Farm

apple.news/AxS9splrjRCKap1oH7mNyZQ


Mods : can links for The Scum articles be banned please?


Sounds very reasonable, this is a football board and let's remember what they said.

Three sub-headings followed the controversial headline, consisting of: "some fans picked pockets of victims", "some fans urinated on the brave cops" and "some fans beat up PC giving kiss of life".

The newspaper stated that information of Liverpool fans' supposed behaviour was fed to them by police inspector Gordon Sykes, in which he stated that Liverpool fans had pickpocketed the dead – in addition to other accusations by unnamed police officers as well as Conservative MP Irvine Patnick.


Boris Johnson has apologised for an article in the Spectator magazine in 2004 when he was editor which claimed that drunken fans were partly responsible for the Hillsborough tragedy.

Accusing Liverpudlians of wallowing in their "victim status", the editorial published in 2004 stated: "The deaths of more than 50 Liverpool football supporters at Hillsborough in 1989 was undeniably a greater tragedy than the single death, however horrible, of Mr Bigley; but that is no excuse for Liverpool's failure to acknowledge, even to this day, the part played in the disaster by drunken fans at the back of the crowd who mindlessly tried to fight their way into the ground that Saturday afternoon."


Let the organised apologies for Boris and synchronised cap doffing for our betters begin


It seems Marko that the person on the street didn't really care about anything historic or even skulduggery on far away shores - it was black and white as in Leave or Remain that this election was about.

And for that you can blame Corbyn for blocking anything leave and committing political suicide by forcing an election by doing so.

I see he is doing a Nixon and refusing to budge yet.

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20 Dec 2019 16:45 #142 by NORTHERNSOUL
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munchymagic wrote:

Markovitch wrote:

Mush wrote:

Laffy wrote: More from Animal Farm

apple.news/AxS9splrjRCKap1oH7mNyZQ


Mods : can links for The Scum articles be banned please?


Sounds very reasonable, this is a football board and let's remember what they said.

Three sub-headings followed the controversial headline, consisting of: "some fans picked pockets of victims", "some fans urinated on the brave cops" and "some fans beat up PC giving kiss of life".

The newspaper stated that information of Liverpool fans' supposed behaviour was fed to them by police inspector Gordon Sykes, in which he stated that Liverpool fans had pickpocketed the dead – in addition to other accusations by unnamed police officers as well as Conservative MP Irvine Patnick.


Boris Johnson has apologised for an article in the Spectator magazine in 2004 when he was editor which claimed that drunken fans were partly responsible for the Hillsborough tragedy.

Accusing Liverpudlians of wallowing in their "victim status", the editorial published in 2004 stated: "The deaths of more than 50 Liverpool football supporters at Hillsborough in 1989 was undeniably a greater tragedy than the single death, however horrible, of Mr Bigley; but that is no excuse for Liverpool's failure to acknowledge, even to this day, the part played in the disaster by drunken fans at the back of the crowd who mindlessly tried to fight their way into the ground that Saturday afternoon."


Let the organised apologies for Boris and synchronised cap doffing for our betters begin


It seems Marko that the person on the street didn't really care about anything historic or even skulduggery on far away shores - it was black and white as in Leave or Remain that this election was about.

And for that you can blame Corbyn for blocking anything leave and committing political suicide by forcing an election by doing so.

I see he is doing a Nixon and refusing to budge yet.


Somebody really should have [censored] the surley old shit yesterday his attitude was a disgrace

I hope Boris rubs his nose in the dirt at every opportunity he gets over the next six months.
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20 Dec 2019 16:51 #143 by Mullen103
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NORTHERNSOUL wrote:

Mullen103 wrote:

NORTHERNSOUL wrote:

Markovitch wrote: Having taken away the right of the disabled (and everyone else) to have their dwp assessment sent to their gp Boris has now given vast exemptions to the accessibility rules on trains. Can't appeal your fit to work assessment, can't travel by train. Nothing like hurting the disabled eh? Welcome to England 2020


About time somebody sorted out the disabled situation on trains

One disabled person can cause the cancellation of a train inconveniencing 350 other people and when they're offered a door to door taxi alternative they turn it down because the taxi hasn't got the toilet the train has.

TPE Had to scrap using three trains just because the bogs weren't compliant when some disabled woman took it legal meaning thousands of people a week lost their train services.

And then we have that loony woman who got the Welsh VirginTrain Manager sacked and then tried to use the train again forcing the staff on that one to refuse to move it if she was allowed on. Luckily on that occasion a BTP plod took her to one side for a chat while she did the train left.

Most disabled people book 48 hours in advance and it works well its just a small minority that spoil it for the rest.

I think over the next 5 years you're going to be a very angry man Marko as Boris sweeps away loads of crap that's holding this country back so maybe you can explain to me why when people get their DWP assessment results they cant just press the forward button to send them to their GP.


Good old Sara - Why should she have to accept a taxi ride, taking over an hour longer, instead of going on a train with room. Her previous complaint put paid to that really, but her issue was valid.

Why can a disabled person not spontaniously go somewhere on the train, like an able bodied person can, and have to book 48 hours in advance. 2 disabled spaces per carridge is sufficient, but the issue i've seen is getting the help to use the ramps.


They can

Just make their own arrangements like everybody else has to and in the case of a disabled person if they don't want to book assistance 48 hours in advance then take their own assistance with them there isn't a case on this planet for letting one person inconvenience the other 350 people on the train whether they're disabled or not.

Virgin missed a trick there they should have taken out an injunction and banned her from all their trains and stations you only have to read her twitter feed to see what her game is but when they didn't their staff stepped up and did their job for them and backed their colleague 100%

I think you're going to be another Marko seething with indignation Mullen because I can tell you now under Boris it will be survival of the fittest he who shouts loudest and punches the hardest will get what they which is exactly how the world should be.

Mind you I didn't have you down as a winger I saw you as someone who just got on with it. Just shows how wrong you can be eh.


I was hoping you took a bite NS - I wanted to see what you'd say and you're partly right.

As for Sara, truth be told I can't stand the woman. She's giving people with autism a really bad name and I've no idea what she advocating apart from being a pain in the arse. I actually met her at an autism event and she wanted to be the centre of attention (If you have autism to her supposed level, it's not something you really want to be). However her issue was valid, the way she went about it wasn't - she now has a vendetta against all train staff and won't stop to she gets them all sacked.

If you're a disabled person and you have your own assistance, then yes - but what happens if you want to be independent? say a blind person with a dog who just needs assistance to go to the correct platform/carriage. This isn't a great request but now the station staff won't help and say you have to book.

Agree, it is going to be a self-interest country - but what's going to happen to those without a voice and unable to stand up for themselves - what do there do?

At least we’re not Stockport

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20 Dec 2019 16:54 #144 by Mush
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It wouldn’t surprise me if Johnson has an affair with that Trudy Harrison.

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20 Dec 2019 17:00 #145 by munchymagic
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I get the independence bit but one thing our country is still good at is helping those that we see as struggling, there would be a queue of people willing to help.

Saying that, fairly recently I was on Currock Road and there was an old lady stood there for ages opposite the dentists shaking and staring at the dentists, I offered to help her across the road and she looked disgusted with me and stormed off in the direction of The Bog Road.

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20 Dec 2019 17:18 #146 by NORTHERNSOUL
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Mullen103 wrote:

NORTHERNSOUL wrote:

Mullen103 wrote:

NORTHERNSOUL wrote:

Markovitch wrote: Having taken away the right of the disabled (and everyone else) to have their dwp assessment sent to their gp Boris has now given vast exemptions to the accessibility rules on trains. Can't appeal your fit to work assessment, can't travel by train. Nothing like hurting the disabled eh? Welcome to England 2020


About time somebody sorted out the disabled situation on trains

One disabled person can cause the cancellation of a train inconveniencing 350 other people and when they're offered a door to door taxi alternative they turn it down because the taxi hasn't got the toilet the train has.

TPE Had to scrap using three trains just because the bogs weren't compliant when some disabled woman took it legal meaning thousands of people a week lost their train services.

And then we have that loony woman who got the Welsh VirginTrain Manager sacked and then tried to use the train again forcing the staff on that one to refuse to move it if she was allowed on. Luckily on that occasion a BTP plod took her to one side for a chat while she did the train left.

Most disabled people book 48 hours in advance and it works well its just a small minority that spoil it for the rest.

I think over the next 5 years you're going to be a very angry man Marko as Boris sweeps away loads of crap that's holding this country back so maybe you can explain to me why when people get their DWP assessment results they cant just press the forward button to send them to their GP.


Good old Sara - Why should she have to accept a taxi ride, taking over an hour longer, instead of going on a train with room. Her previous complaint put paid to that really, but her issue was valid.

Why can a disabled person not spontaniously go somewhere on the train, like an able bodied person can, and have to book 48 hours in advance. 2 disabled spaces per carridge is sufficient, but the issue i've seen is getting the help to use the ramps.


They can

Just make their own arrangements like everybody else has to and in the case of a disabled person if they don't want to book assistance 48 hours in advance then take their own assistance with them there isn't a case on this planet for letting one person inconvenience the other 350 people on the train whether they're disabled or not.

Virgin missed a trick there they should have taken out an injunction and banned her from all their trains and stations you only have to read her twitter feed to see what her game is but when they didn't their staff stepped up and did their job for them and backed their colleague 100%

I think you're going to be another Marko seething with indignation Mullen because I can tell you now under Boris it will be survival of the fittest he who shouts loudest and punches the hardest will get what they which is exactly how the world should be.

Mind you I didn't have you down as a winger I saw you as someone who just got on with it. Just shows how wrong you can be eh.


I was hoping you took a bite NS - I wanted to see what you'd say and you're partly right.

As for Sara, truth be told I can't stand the woman. She's giving people with autism a really bad name and I've no idea what she advocating apart from being a pain in the arse. I actually met her at an autism event and she wanted to be the centre of attention (If you have autism to her supposed level, it's not something you really want to be). However her issue was valid, the way she went about it wasn't - she now has a vendetta against all train staff and won't stop to she gets them all sacked.

If you're a disabled person and you have your own assistance, then yes - but what happens if you want to be independent? say a blind person with a dog who just needs assistance to go to the correct platform/carriage. This isn't a great request but now the station staff won't help and say you have to book.

Well, I .reckon they're fed up to the back teeth of having to assist people who won't adhere to the protocols set up to make the system work so are now taking the easy route of making everyone book 48 hours before if they want assistance.

Agree, it is going to be a self-interest country - but what's going to happen to those without a voice and unable to stand up for themselves - what do there do?


Well would say they should start by in the case of trains not pissing off the vast majority of train users for their own selfish reasons Hell if I was offered my own personal taxi instead of sitting on the train i.d snap their bloody hands off

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20 Dec 2019 17:31 #147 by High Street
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Is this ‘Agony Autie?’

You should mention that name on rail staff groups, and see what response you get....

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20 Dec 2019 17:36 #148 by NORTHERNSOUL
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High Street wrote: Is this ‘Agony Autie?’

You should mention that name on rail staff groups, and see what response you get....


Yes the very same

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20 Dec 2019 18:03 #149 by Mullen103
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High Street wrote: Is this ‘Agony Autie?’

You should mention that name on rail staff groups, and see what response you get....


You should see the response she gets on the autistic forums.

She may have autism but she’s giving people with autism and disability in general a bad name by naming shaming train staff and telling other people to do the same.

She actually makes money of her podcast/FB page and has created a page asking for money to pay for her lifestyle.

At least we’re not Stockport

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20 Dec 2019 18:11 #150 by Laffy
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Brexit barbie

Alan and I are having a Brexit barbie at the end of the month.I will organise a tent,Anyone wanting to come along?

We intend to have one every year-a bit like Thanksgiving
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