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15 May 2020 14:16 #651 by Chilledsilly
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Great to see Starmer asking questions that make the Tories squirm .
That's why the media ,propaganda news traffic,has increased in the last week ... Tories including Dorrin getting worried .As well as getting her knuckles rapped.

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15 May 2020 14:17 #652 by Alan
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Alan wrote: Morning :-)


Impressive.... especially with the huge post Brexit boom to the economy still to follow.

Good time to call a snap General Election?


Why go for a trouncing when total annihilation is only 4 years away.
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16 May 2020 10:34 #653 by Chilledsilly
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16 May 2020 19:32 #654 by Markovitch
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Anniversary of Operation Chastise today. 53 of the Dambusters didn't return didn't return from the Ruhr

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18 May 2020 12:04 #655 by CCU
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Win or Lose, Up The Blues!

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18 May 2020 12:59 #656 by NORTHERNSOUL
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Shooting themselves in both feet once again.

What the hell are they doing giving her and her Corbynite mates the oxygen

Best thing Starmer could do would be to round them all up, stick 'em in a container and send it on a very slow boat to China

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18 May 2020 13:05 #657 by NORTHERNSOUL
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Time for Boris to step up to the plate today

They're debating the post-Brexit immigration bill

Hope someones pointed out to him why all those votes were lent to him by British, White, Northern, Working class people.

Do your duty Boris and rid the country of the infection and we.re not talking about Covid here.

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18 May 2020 15:09 #658 by Mush
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You on about Matt Hancock?
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19 May 2020 18:21 #659 by Flatcap
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Not seeing much of Boris lately. I guess he is still suffering the after effects of the virus.
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19 May 2020 22:50 #660 by Markovitch
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The old fellow, Tom (?), who raised the money for the NHS is getting a knighthood

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19 May 2020 23:28 #661 by topstepwhinger
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Boris may have his qualities, however running the country does not appear to be one of them.
At the risk of stating the bleeding obvious I predict he will not be at the helm by the 31st December.
I'm not sure who will mind!

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20 May 2020 00:13 #662 by howoldboy
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topstepwhinger wrote: Boris may have his qualities, however running the country does not appear to be one of them.
At the risk of stating the bleeding obvious I predict he will not be at the helm by the 31st December.
I'm not sure who will mind!


Are you suggesting he is at the helm now?
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20 May 2020 11:03 #663 by topstepwhinger
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No, exactly.
He has served his purpose by using his 'charisma', 'charm', 'warmth', buffoonery' whatever you want to call it to (rightly or wrongly) get us out of the EU and I believe he will look to pass the baton sooner rather than later.
Not many candidates out there mind - maybe Rishi Sunak will be fast tracked, seen as he is about the only one coming out of this crisis with any credit to date.

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20 May 2020 11:32 #664 by Chilledsilly
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The best man they've got ( in my opinion ) .. is Gove

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20 May 2020 11:33 #665 by orfc
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topstepwhinger wrote: No, exactly.
He has served his purpose by using his 'charisma', 'charm', 'warmth', buffoonery' whatever you want to call it to (rightly or wrongly) get us out of the EU and I believe he will look to pass the baton sooner rather than later.
Not many candidates out there mind - maybe Rishi Sunak will be fast tracked, seen as he is about the only one coming out of this crisis with any credit to date.


"Bullshit" is what I'd call it.

Trouble for the tories is that Boris pissed off and knifed so many pragmatic tories that all they're left with are the complete window lickers. This is why they look so bad now, it's like when Corbyn filled his front bench full of Dave Spart types because no-one with half a brain would work with him.

Rory Stewart got a lot of stick (mostly off me), but the more I read about him the more I'd have him back over Johnson etc, but he's not even an MP any more.

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20 May 2020 12:30 - 20 May 2020 12:31 #666 by CCU
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Flatcap wrote: Not seeing much of Boris lately. I guess he is still suffering the after effects of the virus.


Needs a good haircut (More than usual!) judging by PMQ’s!

Win or Lose, Up The Blues!
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20 May 2020 12:47 #667 by howoldboy
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CCU wrote:

Flatcap wrote: Not seeing much of Boris lately. I guess he is still suffering the after effects of the virus.


Needs a good haircut (More than usual!) judging by PMQ’s!


In the absence of a fridge he is maybe trying to hide behind his fringe.

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20 May 2020 17:09 #668 by High Street
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CCU wrote:

Flatcap wrote: Not seeing much of Boris lately. I guess he is still suffering the after effects of the virus.


Needs a good haircut (More than usual!) judging by PMQ’s!


If he got a haircut, we’d only have the usual suspects whinging about not being able to get one, and how the ‘rich’ and ‘elite’ can.
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20 May 2020 23:08 #669 by Taffy-P
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It looks like BOJO has done it again at PM questions

He said it would cost £900 million to scrap the surcharge for overseas NHS workers it’s actually £90 million

I don’t know if it’s a lie like the £350 million on the bus or he is so intimidated by Keir Starmer it’s another mistake

I honestly don’t see him leading the Tories into the next election
one thing the conservatives are is ruthless if the leader is looking like a looser

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21 May 2020 08:45 #670 by ExiledJock
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It's pretty interesting. Johnson was the great white hope who was going to lead us through Brexit. Instead, this whole affair - and Brexit - will totally break him. Backbenchers are already starting to grumble and his occasional appearances during the virus briefings reflects very poorly compared to the likes of Sturgeon's daily shows. She's not perfect, but at least gives an impression of real leadership.
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21 May 2020 14:15 #671 by topstepwhinger
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What with Brexit and covid-19 to deal with, the words chalice and poison spring to mind.
I can't think of anyone who would have relished the task - maybe Margaret Thatcher!

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21 May 2020 14:51 #672 by Waltero
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She'd have loved it, Maggie liked a good scrap

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21 May 2020 15:07 #673 by Chilledsilly
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Yeh .. she liked a crisis , to take your eye of the economy that was tanking ..

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21 May 2020 15:43 #674 by NORTHERNSOUL
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topstepwhinger wrote: What with Brexit and covid-19 to deal with, the words chalice and poison spring to mind.
I can't think of anyone who would have relished the task - maybe Margaret Thatcher!


Well might be better if he concentrated on the important stuff like Brexit and let the people work out in their own way how to deal with the virus

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21 May 2020 15:45 #675 by NORTHERNSOUL
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Waltero wrote: She'd have loved it, Maggie liked a good scrap


Funny, I didn't see her anywhere near the front line when it kicked off at Orgreve

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22 May 2020 14:24 #676 by pacirv
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Boris is a coward when things get tuff he goes back into hiding.
More chance of finding Wally.
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22 May 2020 16:16 #677 by Yeti
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Agree 100%. He's a bottler and runs for cover as soon as the going gets tough. Just not up to the job in any way.
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22 May 2020 19:06 #678 by High Street
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I’m sure with his 80 seat majority landslide, he’s not going to be overly bothered
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22 May 2020 19:18 #679 by Alan
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High Street wrote: I’m sure with his 80 seat majority landslide, he’s not going to be overly bothered


Mr Forensic making massive inroads now




NOT :-D

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22 May 2020 19:33 #680 by NORTHERNSOUL
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Alan wrote:

High Street wrote: I’m sure with his 80 seat majority landslide, he’s not going to be overly bothered


Mr Forensic making massive inroads now




NOT :-D


And never will until they have a proper purge of all those who were supporters of Corbyn and who did his dirty work

Stick their names and addresses online and let natural justice take place.
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22 May 2020 19:39 #681 by Alan
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NORTHERNSOUL wrote:

Alan wrote:

High Street wrote: I’m sure with his 80 seat majority landslide, he’s not going to be overly bothered


Mr Forensic making massive inroads now




NOT :-D


And never will until they have a proper purge of all those who were supporters of Corbyn and who did his dirty work

Stick their names and addresses online and let natural justice take place.

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22 May 2020 19:43 #682 by howoldboy
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Alan wrote:

High Street wrote: I’m sure with his 80 seat majority landslide, he’s not going to be overly bothered


Mr Forensic making massive inroads now




NOT :-D


I suspect the reason the Conservative vote is holding up reasonably well is because Boris has disappeared.
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22 May 2020 20:05 #683 by Laffy
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Maybe he’s just getting in with things-he doesn’t need to do anything special with a massive majority and the SNP preventing Labour ever having a chance of getting back in.

If he comes out of this and sorts Brexit, history will be kind to him.The calls for a public inquiry before the crisis is over is surely a joke-can you imagine if Churchill has listened to all the doubters in 1941/42 and walked?

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22 May 2020 20:07 #684 by howoldboy
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Maybe when the Government get Track and Trace up and running there will be more chance of finding Boris.
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22 May 2020 20:47 #685 by Chilledsilly
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Yeh ..... Boris is doing a great job !
Keep it up Boris ....
Keir is going to love you

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22 May 2020 20:59 #686 by Laffy
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Chilled-you have as much idea as I have about whether he’s doing a good job.Neither of us are qualified to make that quantum leap.Its too early to form any realistic view.

Consider the alternatives if Boris hadn’t won;

-Corbyn and his merry band

-The liberals-one of their Lords was caught furloughing himself today!

-an SNP/Corbyn coalition.Words fail me.

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22 May 2020 21:36 #687 by hampshire_blue
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Laffy wrote: Consider the alternatives if Boris hadn’t won;

-Corbyn and his merry band

-The liberals-one of their Lords was caught furloughing himself today!

-an SNP/Corbyn coalition.Words fail me.


Yeah, but Boris did win and it’s still all going to shit, most likely worse than others could have managed apart from his BFF over the pond.

Laffy... You’re like an Alzheimer's disco man, give it a rest. Always going on about stuff that didn’t happen and isn’t relevant. You been giving Boris lessons in answering public questions?

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22 May 2020 21:44 #688 by Laffy
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How do you know it’s all going to shit?Thats my point.

Nobody really knows because this is unprecedented-a once in a lifetime disaster.A real hospital pass

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22 May 2020 21:48 #689 by Chilledsilly
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"Laffy... You’re like an Alzheimer's disco man, give it a rest. Always going on about stuff that didn’t happen "

Hahaha .....so true

I Dont blame Them keeping Boris out of the way ....
Trouble is it's not working, the guys getting found out..
Kier Starmer must be luvving having him as a sparing partner.

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22 May 2020 22:06 #690 by NORTHERNSOUL
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Laffy wrote: How do you know it’s all going to shit?Thats my point.

Nobody really knows because this is unprecedented-a once in a lifetime disaster.A real hospital pass


It's going to shit because every new plan they come up with the public immediately question and within days it's watered down or cancelled pretty the rest of you didn't have the balls to do what I did and tell him where to stick his [censored] lockdown.

I have a couple of flights booked with Ryanair for July and I .ve already had a message from their boss telling me not to worry and they've already got a way around the quarantine thing.

I would imagine on the way back they.ll just fly everybody to Dublin and from there shuttle you back to your departure point as flights arriving from Eire arent sbject to the quarentine regulations

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22 May 2020 22:42 #691 by hampshire_blue
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Laffy wrote: How do you know it’s all going to shit?Thats my point.

Nobody really knows because this is unprecedented-a once in a lifetime disaster.A real hospital pass


Look, the Scientists have been saying for years this was going to happen and happen pretty soon. Our government regardless of party in power have had forecasts and action plans in existence for years. They have pretty sophisticated forecasting tools which can give very accurate plans on how different scenarios play our. Labour’s plans were to suppress and eradicate if possible any deadly virus, the Tories changed this around 2011/12 to a mitigation stance, that’s went well...

Just for one example, take a look at this -

www.theguardian.com/world/2020/may/14/co...kpile-chaos-movianto

This is just a prime example of how the government works, quite happy to make their friends rich by giving them government contracts for what turned out to be a very much needed service and then we have to send the Army (the ARMY ffs) in to sort the mess out, again for the 2nd time in the same situation at the cost of the tax payer.

If a private company can’t handle what they have been paid to do and they have to get government defence staff in to sort it out, why have the private company do the job in the first place?

As a U.K. citizen who was registered at birth, my contact with the government which, lets be honest is a business, is for welfare in return for my tax pounds. If you’re not getting the deal you should be, you would normally renegade on it, find a breakaway solution and then either switch to another better supplier or you go in-house, having complete control over the product. That’s an impossibility to the any plain old plonker on the street struggling to get by on the current system we were all involuntary signed up to by our parents, because that’s the law. Real democracy at show!

This government is taking liberties with peoples lives and getting themselves minted in the process. This just doesn’t sit too well with me to be honest and then they have the cheek to moan on about Starmer’s bit of land he bought his mother 20 odd years ago because now it worth a bit thanks to capitalist bellcranks raping the country of its wealth, over inflating the cost of living above wages received and then telling the Untermensch it’s all their fault and making them pay for it. Proper good government that eh!
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22 May 2020 23:03 #692 by whytakemypostcode
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Meanwhile, Dominic Cummings travelled hundreds of miles from London to County Durham during the lockdown when he had coronavirus symptoms. Ffs.

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22 May 2020 23:13 #693 by hampshire_blue
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whytakemypostcode wrote: Meanwhile, Dominic Cummings travelled hundreds of miles from London to County Durham during the lockdown when he had coronavirus symptoms. Ffs.


And all the leavers moan on about unelected politicians... Pot calling the kettle spontaneously springs to mind.

Boris has his Pinocchio sneb so far up this tool’s geer that he’ll be doing a reverse Michael Jackson soon. Plebs.

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23 May 2020 00:11 #694 by Taffy-P
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I always knew this government would self destruct I didn’t think it would happen so soon

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23 May 2020 07:36 #695 by Bruntonpasty
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When would you think there'll be an election then? Any time soon? Surely if they are "self destructing" as you suggest, the opposition will be calling for one in the coming weeks? If you were Starmer, would you want an election? bearing in mind the shit show that will no doubt exist after the pandemic is over? Do you believe that the people of this country would put their trust in Labour to straighten the country out after all this?And after we've fully left the EU? Do you think they could turn around the shattering defeat they suffered last time? (I didn't vote for Boris BTW ) Can't see any of the above happening myself....

They don't like it up 'em!
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23 May 2020 09:30 #696 by Laffy
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Maybe we should form our own debating society?

There is zero chance of this government being toppled so best thing is to back them-Boris asked Starmer to be part of a coalition against the virus which makes sense to me.

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23 May 2020 09:56 #697 by Taffy-P
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There won’t be a general election for 4 or 5 years Boris won’t be the leader then !
Give Boris credit he is a fantastic campaigner London Mayor,Vote Leave The General Election
Boris has little substance quite lazy doesn’t like detail When on the campaign trail he can hind behind a slogan then use waffle and bluster to bat away any questions. He is the sort of guy that likes the chase not the kill

He is now in power he has to make decisions then be scrutinised on those decisions That’s why he is getting ripped to bits every week by Keir Starmer.
The Tories will let him take the blame for the mistakes on this crisis. The most ardent Brexit supporter now excepts there going to be a bit of damage done next year by that . I see him resigning in late 2021 by mutual consent (using the football analogy)
Who replaces him is anyone guess !!!
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23 May 2020 10:35 #698 by topstepwhinger
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I agree with everything you say there Taffy-P, however I think he will resign citing health/family issues before Christmas.

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23 May 2020 10:38 #699 by hampshire_blue
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Taffy, you get it. He is literally the Ben Affleck of politics, big build up, big fanfare and then the films are pure garbage, leaving everyone deflated and disappointed that they parted with their hard earned cash for nothing.

Boris’s latest tactic is to conceive something abhorrent, release it to the public, waits for the backlash and then do a complete u-turn the next day as if he is the saviour of the universe. Do you think these tactics personify strong leadership, a strong backbone and good decision making skills? He probably has to ring Hancock in the morning to ask which hand he needs to hold his dick with and which hand to hold the toothbrush.

Stats don’t lie, we’re having a mare right now and all we get is a posh little toff messing with the lives of good honest people. Thankfully one of the good things to come out of the situation we are currently in has been the highlighted fact that it’s the little people who literally hold this country up. Well that and the fact that Boris has probably killed off a pretty large percentage of his own voters with his incompetence.

Playing on the patriotism of a country in times like these is a dangerous course to take I think, I feel a civil war coming. Not a civil war on horse back with muskets and big flags like the Tories fantasise about but a civil war fought online, through technology. Here is a song called Mis-Shapes by Pulp, over 25 years old this song, just listen the lyrics, they speak volumes.

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23 May 2020 10:38 #700 by Bruntonpasty
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So, Taffy, you wouldn’t welcome an election then?

They don't like it up 'em!

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