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23 May 2020 10:41 #701 by High Street
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Is that the same Starmer, who was asking for children to go back to school in April, until the party’s union paymasters piped up?

Different face, same ideology. And they will just not learn.

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23 May 2020 10:47 #702 by topstepwhinger
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Why would anyone, let alone a sharp lawyer call an election now.
Being in the midst of the (self inflicted) Brexit mess was bad enough, now covid-19 - Kier and the rest will just be happy to sit back and watch Boris and co struggle and squirm for a good while yet. Wouldn't you?
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23 May 2020 11:04 #703 by Taffy-P
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Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake (Napoleon Bonaparte)

Why have an election now with the virus and Brexit going on The tories have such a large majority it will be very difficult but not impossible the way this government is going to over turn at one election

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23 May 2020 11:27 #704 by hampshire_blue
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High Street wrote: Is that the same Starmer, who was asking for children to go back to school in April, until the party’s union paymasters piped up?

Different face, same ideology. And they will just not learn.


Now come on, get your facts right. He was saying that schools should be one of the first things to reopen when lockdown leasing started and that the Tory government should be publishing their plans to ease lockdown. Article from April 15th is below.

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/c...labour-a9465646.html

Another participant for Laffy’s Disco, Just waiting for you to dig into Corbyn now seeing you failed in your dig at Starmer.

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23 May 2020 11:29 #705 by hampshire_blue
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*easing (stupid no edit facility)

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23 May 2020 11:52 #706 by Bruntonpasty
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topstepwhinger wrote: Why would anyone, let alone a sharp lawyer call an election now.
Being in the midst of the (self inflicted) Brexit mess was bad enough, now covid-19 - Kier and the rest will just be happy to sit back and watch Boris and co struggle and squirm for a good while yet. Wouldn't you?



But surely, by letting BoJo and Co squirm and make more mistakes, are you not making the good folks of the country suffer more? Do you not believe that Labour could do better if they were in power? If you don't hold that belief? then what are you complaining about? The complaint is that BoJo is not a leader? Then why would your chosen replacement just be happy to sit back ?I think you need to make up your minds what you do want, ...

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23 May 2020 12:59 #707 by hampshire_blue
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Bruntonpasty wrote: But surely, by letting BoJo and Co squirm and make more mistakes, are you not making the good folks of the country suffer more? Do you not believe that Labour could do better if they were in power? If you don't hold that belief? then what are you complaining about? The complaint is that BoJo is not a leader? Then why would your chosen replacement just be happy to sit back ?I think you need to make up your minds what you do want, ...


There won’t be a general election, there won’t be a change of government, so why do I need to believe Labour could do a better job? What WE need is the current occupant of Number 10 to step up to the plate and do the job instead of the shambles of a show we’re current being subjected to. He may be the leader but he isn’t a leader. He has already subjected the country to such a great deal of suffering that suggesting that by Labour doing nothing (which is pretty easy seeing it isn’t their job to do anything, that would be the current governments) would subject the country to more suffering is irrelevant and a poor attempt via a redundant retort to provoke the conversation into a different direction because your argument is weak.

What I want is for the current government to sort its self out and get this sorted. Labour had an “oven ready” plan for a mass viral attack and the Tories changed that to mitigation and because of that decision, we are now ALL in the proverbial.
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23 May 2020 13:36 #708 by Laffy
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Well Labour’s last view on vital attack aka Salisbury would hardly fill anyone with confidence.

Churchill got slaughtered in the middle of the Second World War, got all the plaudits at the end, then lost the election.Thats the risk for Boris.

Starmer is a decent bloke-no doubt, but look at the absolute trash underneath.

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23 May 2020 13:46 #709 by nobbyblue
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Boris has made a right pigs ear of it all despite a promising start. I’d vote labour now if there was an election after voting Tory in December.
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23 May 2020 13:56 #710 by hampshire_blue
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Laffy wrote: Well Labour’s last view on vital attack aka Salisbury would hardly fill anyone with confidence


Once again Laffy, Labour hasn’t been in government for over 10 years and you’re talking about a man who wasn’t elected and doesn’t have a say in how things are run right now. What’s more important, something that didn’t happen or something that is happening now?

A completely irrelevant point which contributes to this argument as much as you contributed to Carlisle Untied. Big fat nowt.

You need to get some new tunes for your disco pal, what’s the point of having 2 turntables if you only have one record?
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23 May 2020 13:56 #711 by thesilentone
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nobbyblue wrote: Boris has made a right pigs ear of it all despite a promising start. I’d vote labour now if there was an election after voting Tory in December.


What should he have done differently ?

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23 May 2020 13:58 #712 by orfc
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topstepwhinger wrote: Why would anyone, let alone a sharp lawyer call an election now.
Being in the midst of the (self inflicted) Brexit mess was bad enough, now covid-19 - Kier and the rest will just be happy to sit back and watch Boris and co struggle and squirm for a good while yet. Wouldn't you?



But surely, by letting BoJo and Co squirm and make more mistakes, are you not making the good folks of the country suffer more? Do you not believe that Labour could do better if they were in power? If you don't hold that belief? then what are you complaining about? The complaint is that BoJo is not a leader? Then why would your chosen replacement just be happy to sit back ?I think you need to make up your minds what you do want, ...


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23 May 2020 14:01 #713 by Chilledsilly
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thesilentone wrote:

nobbyblue wrote: Boris has made a right pigs ear of it all despite a promising start. I’d vote labour now if there was an election after voting Tory in December.


What should he have done differently ?



Hahah ... really ?
While theres been some tough calls .
Consensus says he's done just about everything wrong !

What has he do right ??
( when around )

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23 May 2020 14:04 #714 by High Street
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I get the impression that the fully paid up members of the 20/20 hindsight club, are wanking themselves silly when the daily death figures are announced.
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23 May 2020 14:08 #715 by orfc
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Are we at stage 3 of the tory blame deflection taxonomy already?

1. It's too early to tell / scaremongering
2. Now is now the time / rally round
3. Easy with hindsight / what would you have done better
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23 May 2020 14:09 #716 by thesilentone
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Chilledsilly wrote:

thesilentone wrote:

nobbyblue wrote: Boris has made a right pigs ear of it all despite a promising start. I’d vote labour now if there was an election after voting Tory in December.


What should he have done differently ?



Hahah ... really ?
While theres been some tough calls .
Consensus says he's done just about everything wrong !

What has he do right ??
( when around )


Other than acted maybe a week earlier (like most other Countries) pray tell us what he should have done differently.please !

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23 May 2020 14:13 #717 by nobbyblue
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thesilentone wrote:

nobbyblue wrote: Boris has made a right pigs ear of it all despite a promising start. I’d vote labour now if there was an election after voting Tory in December.


What should he have done differently ?


They’ve been that slow on nearly everything from PPE to testing.

Boris said the antibody tests they had were a game changer back in March and here we are nearly in June and the only ones you can get are privately.

They knew track and testing was the way forward when they had to ease the lockdown but nothing was done. The tracers and the app should have been ready to go weeks ago. Absolute shambles.

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23 May 2020 14:14 #718 by Chilledsilly
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1 week ?
Dont you mean about 3 weeks ?
Saving thousands of lives maybe ?
As for what else ...
Just about Everything else !

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23 May 2020 14:18 #719 by bigboblee
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Hampshire Blue: I raise my facemask to you. Excellent posts. Laffy posts absolute garbage, a pompous fool.
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23 May 2020 14:23 #720 by thesilentone
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nobbyblue wrote:

thesilentone wrote:

nobbyblue wrote: Boris has made a right pigs ear of it all despite a promising start. I’d vote labour now if there was an election after voting Tory in December.


What should he have done differently ?


They’ve been that slow on nearly everything from PPE to testing.

Boris said the antibody tests they had were a game changer back in March and here we are nearly in June and the only ones you can get are privately.

They knew track and testing was the way forward when they had to ease the lockdown but nothing was done. The tracers and the app should have been ready to go weeks ago. Absolute shambles.


Who ran out of PPE ?

May was when they announced the availability of a antibody test kits.

Track and testing was worthless when the virus was on fire, it now has the benefit of allowing us to loosen lock-down.

Are you getting App when it's available ? if you're in a hurry, there already is one, I've used it for weeks, there's also a website with the results, have a look in App-store,

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23 May 2020 14:52 #721 by Bruntonpasty
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You lot are funny..... You hate BoJo and his cohorts and you criticise them freely, yet, you have no appetite for the party you support to take their place? I'm not suggesting there will be an election but, if Labour believe they can do better should they not then be calling for one?. Do you Labour supporters not have the courage of your convictions? Do you believe that Labour would be better placed to rebuild after this shit show or, are you happy to sit back and let BoJo turn it all to total Rat shit? I'm no fan of BoJo, didn't vote for him, but If I was a dyed in the wool Labour supporter, I'd want my party in control, and the only way they can do that is by calling for and winning a general election. Sniping from the sidelines is easy, just like slagging the BOD at Carlisle is easy, I reckon running a football club is far more tricky than some on here believe, similarly running a country during a Pandemic... Don't suppose this'll soothe you lots bitterness though...
Have a nice day...

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23 May 2020 14:55 #722 by Bruntonpasty
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To add......I agree they've made tons of mistakes but, I feel I may write to Mr Sunak to thank him for the SEISS money he kindly deposited in my account last week! Lovely jubbly! Three months money! Wahey!

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23 May 2020 15:12 #723 by hampshire_blue
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Silent, he never said there wasn’t any PPE, he said it was in slow supply, due to the fact that the government appointed private company who’s job it was to store and supply the PPE making a royal balls up of their only but every important job. Just like I showed in an earlier post when supply was so slow we had to get the Army in to sort it out. A slow supply is as good as having no supply.

BruntonPasty, Do you really thing an election and change of government is really the stable thing to do in the current climate? It’s too far gone, Boris is Roddy Collins and Starmer is Paul Simpson. Remember he was a great manager but even he couldn’t sort out the mess that was left until the next season. Next season = Next Parliamentary term.

Do you think Boris is going to call an election? I don’t thing so...

Go through your record collection, pull out “let’s go round again” and get your self down to Laffy’s disco.

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23 May 2020 15:21 #724 by Laffy
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There are many on here who seem to like playing with themselves rather than trying to do something about their gripe.Likewise the football club where many are unhappy about it but few have actually attempted to do anything.

According to the Sun today, 33pc of people don’t want to go back to work because they are better off under furlough.That stat just about sums things up-let somebody else sort it out but pay us to do nothing meantime and we will snipe from the sidelines-but don’t ask us for a solution or better way because we don’t have one.

Someone asked for a list of things that the government have done wrong.I would like to see it but with some hard evidence to back the claims up-particularly when there is nothing at all to measure performance given it’s without precedent.

The number of deaths in the UK is truly shocking but already the inquest is starting as to why.Its no surprise obesity, fags and general abuse of one’s body are central to this.We are the unhealthiest bunch of lard arses in Europe and I’m sure our statisticians and medical experts took that into account in their strategy.

That is not the fault of Boris or the naughty Tories-these British traits were embedded in our culture a long time ago, probably back to Blair who created the ‘I want it and I want it now’ culture that we see today.
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23 May 2020 15:30 #725 by Chilledsilly
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Clearly you good at posting Lord, ..but not replying...
Still waiting on response to two posts you've made about furloughed being lazy arses .
and the government being the worst in history ,..as you implied that we didn't need to lock down ? So all this financial ruin had been for nowt !

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23 May 2020 15:38 #726 by hampshire_blue
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Laffy wrote: That is not the fault of Boris or the naughty Tories-these British traits were embedded in our culture a long time ago, probably back to Blair who created the ‘I want it and I want it now’ culture that we see today.


For crying out loud man, it’s 2020, not 1997.

Do you not have a B side on that record?

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23 May 2020 15:43 #727 by Markovitch
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Under the last Labour Government we had a leader who was key speaker at Davos G20, an army that was a key partner in an invasion, you could walk into a doctors for an appointment, the best funded health system in Europe, workers wages that matched any country in Europe and a generous pension system starting at 60 which was increased £1750pa by Blair and was triple locked.

Now we have a leader who hides in fridges, an army that couldn’t guard Marks and Spencer, if you finally get an appointment at a doctors he’s wearing a bin liner, a health system the Germans made a documentary about as an example of how not to deal with covid, the average worker now earns 30% less than his German counterpart and only half of employees earn enough to pay tax, the pension is now a third of the German pension and is the second lowest in Europe as a proportion of average wage. In Shropshire the only way they get potholes filled in is by drawing penises round them! Sums up the Tory Government.

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23 May 2020 15:43 #728 by Laffy
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Sorry-I didn’t see them

I don’t think furloughed people are lazy, but the longer this goes on, the less inclined people will be to go back.I look at my own daughter who seems happy to sunbathe all day on 80pc pay and no costs!As I said, the Sun states today 33pc of people are happy doing nothing as they are better off.

Not sure of your other point-I did post something from a bank which implied lockdown has been a total waste of time when comparing it to the economic fallout.Im no expert and defer to the experts but it looks like we have saved a few thousand lives but utterly trashed the economy-and we haven’t seen anything yet in that front.More people will die because of poverty resulting from the economic carnage.That is the dilemma facing any politician.Sturgeon happy to play the long game because she knows we will underwrite the damage.

If there is a positive out of this, it’s the restructure of the world-climate change, green deal, end of unlimited globalisation, resetting of what’s important.But there is going to be enormous pain in the transition and that’s where I expect Boris to step up-if he doesnt, he’s toast.I don’t blame him for the current issues-because simply I don’t see anything or anyone who offers anything different.
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23 May 2020 15:48 #729 by topstepwhinger
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topstepwhinger wrote: Why would anyone, let alone a sharp lawyer call an election now.
Being in the midst of the (self inflicted) Brexit mess was bad enough, now covid-19 - Kier and the rest will just be happy to sit back and watch Boris and co struggle and squirm for a good while yet. Wouldn't you?



But surely, by letting BoJo and Co squirm and make more mistakes, are you not making the good folks of the country suffer more? Do you not believe that Labour could do better if they were in power? If you don't hold that belief? then what are you complaining about? The complaint is that BoJo is not a leader? Then why would your chosen replacement just be happy to sit back ?I think you need to make up your minds what you do want, ...


I tell you what I want - I want to visit family and friends, go to the pub for a pint, enjoy a meal in a nice restaurant and watch some live sport.
Politically, no I don't believe things would be better if Labour were in power, and I would imagine they would have followed roughly the same route as the Tories (and in fact the majority of the world).
My comment was based around the fact that whilst Boris has his positive attributes he does not appear to be actually leading and is probably being deliberately kept out of the firing line. When he has no choice (at PMQ's) Starmer has the beating of him, a far cry from when Corbyn was leader. I just feel he needs to up his game, or someone else in his party needs to really step up to the plate - unfortunately (and I know present circumstances are very difficult) nobody seems willing or able to do so.
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23 May 2020 15:58 #730 by Laffy
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I hope you’re wrong but I do think Boris needs to get out in front and swing the bat-that’s his style so his absence is unusual

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Laffy wrote: According to the Sun today, 33pc of people don’t want to go back to work because they are better off under furlough.That stat just about sums things up-let somebody else sort it out but pay us to do nothing meantime and we will snipe from the sidelines-but don’t ask us for a solution or better way because we don’t have one.


I think that says more about the average Sun reader than it says about anything worthwhile.
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Bruntonpasty wrote: To add......I agree they've made tons of mistakes but, I feel I may write to Mr Sunak to thank him for the SEISS money he kindly deposited in my account last week! Lovely jubbly! Three months money! Wahey!


Sunak is the only one to date who seems to have come out with any credit - BP can you add my word of thanks to your letter, I got mine too.
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23 May 2020 16:19 #733 by Alan
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The left are even losing on their own turf.
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23 May 2020 16:25 #734 by Taffy-P
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Laffy wrote: I hope you’re wrong but I do think Boris needs to get out in front and swing the bat-that’s his style so his absence is unusual


This isn’t his style as he gets asked questions that he struggles with think about the fridge incident in the election campaign !!10 Downing Street are desperate to only friendly questions by banning certain media from press briefing to the credit of The Mail and The Telegraph they walked out in protest

Nothing has changed since 2016 when Michael Gove said he had to be honest and say Boris wasn’t up to been prime minister
Boris never had the support of the majority of the parliamentary party He was very popular with the public as one old MP said He’s the only hope we have got I’ll have to support him through gritted teeth but deep down I know it will go all wrong !!!
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topstepwhinger wrote: Why would anyone, let alone a sharp lawyer call an election now.
Being in the midst of the (self inflicted) Brexit mess was bad enough, now covid-19 - Kier and the rest will just be happy to sit back and watch Boris and co struggle and squirm for a good while yet. Wouldn't you?



But surely, by letting BoJo and Co squirm and make more mistakes, are you not making the good folks of the country suffer more? Do you not believe that Labour could do better if they were in power? If you don't hold that belief? then what are you complaining about? The complaint is that BoJo is not a leader? Then why would your chosen replacement just be happy to sit back ?I think you need to make up your minds what you do want, ...


I tell you what I want - I want to visit family and friends, go to the pub for a pint, enjoy a meal in a nice restaurant and watch some live sport.
Politically, no I don't believe things would be better if Labour were in power, and I would imagine they would have followed roughly the same route as the Tories (and in fact the majority of the world).
My comment was based around the fact that whilst Boris has his positive attributes he does not appear to be actually leading and is probably being deliberately kept out of the firing line. When he has no choice (at PMQ's) Starmer has the beating of him, a far cry from when Corbyn was leader. I just feel he needs to up his game, or someone else in his party needs to really step up to the plate - unfortunately (and I know present circumstances are very difficult) nobody seems willing or able to do so.



Finally........ Believe it or not, we're not that far apart! BoJo is a joke and it shows just how poor labour were under Corbyn that He was able to get the result he did. No doubt Starmer is sharp but, the opposition haven't really come up with anything significant as an alternative to what the tories have done. The truth is, they, the tories, are damned if they do and damned if they don't!

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23 May 2020 16:29 #736 by hampshire_blue
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Alan wrote: The left are even losing on their own turf.
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Momentum... to the Labour Party what the Trust is to CUFC. Pull another one Alan, boring the tits off me.

Britain in 2020, where the government fight harder for the fish than the population. DEAD good.

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topstepwhinger wrote:

Bruntonpasty wrote: To add......I agree they've made tons of mistakes but, I feel I may write to Mr Sunak to thank him for the SEISS money he kindly deposited in my account last week! Lovely jubbly! Three months money! Wahey!


Sunak is the only one to date who seems to have come out with any credit - BP can you add my word of thanks to your letter, I got mine too.


You see, this is what I mean. Rightly or wrongly, the country was locked down. The furlough scheme and SEISS are way way more in the way of support than I believe anyone could have expected. Yes, it will cost billions but, If it stops businesses being totally wiped out, people losing their homes, and quite a few other bad things happening, hopefully the new normal will be a bit better than it could have been if we were all left with no income. They have done some good things.....as well as many bad.....

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23 May 2020 17:25 #738 by Alan
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hampshire_blue wrote:

Alan wrote: The left are even losing on their own turf.
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Momentum... to the Labour Party what the Trust is to CUFC. Pull another one Alan, boring the tits off me.

Britain in 2020, where the government fight harder for the fish than the population. DEAD good.


Another serial loser.

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23 May 2020 17:28 #739 by Dancingbear
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Problem is Pasty if labour had brought in these measures (which I applaude Sunak for) the Tories would be going absolutely mental day after day at them for bankrupting the country. I promised I wasn’t posting again on this thread , bollocks!!!

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23 May 2020 17:34 #740 by Bruntonpasty
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Don't worry Dancing nobody reads it anyhow.........

But, I agree, that is exactly what would happen and that's exactly what is wrong with british politics and the media. Whoever is in power.....They are damned whatever they do!!! I'm a bit more realistic in what I expect.......

They don't like it up 'em!
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23 May 2020 17:34 #741 by Chilledsilly
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We keep hearing that furloughed workers are reluctant to go back to work ???
Human nature says plenty of people given most of their wages for doing nowt , will go with that with a smile....

But
Employer furloughs employee...
Then... employer says you can now return to work...so...employee is no longer on furlough...

How is employee reluctant to return to work ???
( on furlough )

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23 May 2020 17:56 #742 by CCU
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I know a lad who’s a builder, he went back on to his made safe site on Mon 4th May, after getting Govt pay for half of March and all April, who then reckoned he should still get it on top of his wage, despite going back to work, because ‘it’s not fair’.

Genuinely blew my brain that!

Win or Lose, Up The Blues!
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23 May 2020 18:12 #743 by Laffy
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I can only go from personal experience-I think I have been involved in furloughing maybe 400 across a few businesses.Its not easy-you are basically asking people to go home and put their trust in you that they will have a job to come back to.That creates pressure on the relationship and of course given the massive uncertainty, you can only say you will do your best.These people have families, mortgages, rent-real issues, not whether Cummings travelled to Durham to protect his kids which is a total bloody sideshow.

We furloughed nearly 200 in our printing business.We have seen turnover fall 80/90 pc so work has dried up and have basically had to ask for a Covid loan-otherwise it was curtains.We got the offer on Friday and told the staff, suppliers and customers.The feeling of relief was palpable so the scheme coupling furlough with loan support does work in the right hands.We now have the challenge of taking turnover back up from £100k a week to £500k a week against a backdrop of uncertainty so the last thing we need is these loans just being wasted on drift-we basically need the economy to kick start and that’s what I want to hear from Boris.

Analysing the lockdown isnt going to achieve much if anything-all focus at the moment should be on getting out of the hole.

You then have that loudmouth socialist Steve Coogan who spends a lot of time pontificating about greed yet has been caught furloughing a gardener and housekeeper in his £4m estate.Oh the irony.I am sure Tories are doing the same-likewise the Lib peer caught furloughing himself.

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23 May 2020 18:18 #744 by Laffy
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And here is an example of basic abuse of furloughing-in football.Tjis from the PFA!


apple.news/A_XCrVZxuQ9i7qQxWSLJ0Rw

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23 May 2020 18:48 #745 by Taffy-P
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Why criticise Steve Coogan for using what essentially a socialist policy of looking after people when things go wrong in their lives for what ever reason This is why it’s called furlough as it’s sounds better than been on benefits.

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23 May 2020 19:39 #746 by Flatcap
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Boris is being kept under wraps by his party because in their eyes he promises to deliver far too much. Some of them are extremely worried about the amount of debt the government has now taken on.
He has now also promised that there will be 200,000 corvid19 tests per day, carried out by June 1st and at the same time we will have the world's best track and trace system in place. We will wait and see.

Boris is backing Cummins for saying that he has done nothing wrong. It's noticeable how quiet those that criticized Sturgeon for her adviser visiting her second home are now.

With an 80 seat majority there is no way that there will be a general election in the near future, no matter what the Labour party do or want.

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23 May 2020 20:01 #747 by hampshire_blue
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Right now, the government is saying the police didn’t speak to Cummings or any of his family. However the police are saying the spoke to the home owner who confirmed that Cummings was at the house in Durham.

So are the government saying the police are lying don’t trust them? or are they lying? It’s obvious someone has but I doubt it was the police.

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23 May 2020 20:06 #748 by thesilentone
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Dancingbear wrote: Problem is Pasty if labour had brought in these measures (which I applaude Sunak for) the Tories would be going absolutely mental day after day at them for bankrupting the country. I promised I wasn’t posting again on this thread , bollocks!!!


If, if, if my Aunty had boxxxks..........................

NO one has ever had a Worldwide pandemic to deal with in our lifetime, what the hell do they do ?

We are borrowed up to 88% of GDP, sounds terrible, however the Spaniards and the Italian's would take it.

The good thing is, borrowing is cheap, the bad thing, it's still to pay back.

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23 May 2020 20:08 #749 by thesilentone
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Nowt but a left wing stitch up.

Who the hell would stand in the way of ANY parent, right left or center who wanted to protect their children ??

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23 May 2020 20:11 #750 by Dancingbear
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thesilentone wrote:

Dancingbear wrote: Problem is Pasty if labour had brought in these measures (which I applaude Sunak for) the Tories would be going absolutely mental day after day at them for bankrupting the country. I promised I wasn’t posting again on this thread , bollocks!!!


If, if, if my Aunty had boxxxks..........................

NO one has ever had a Worldwide pandemic to deal with in our lifetime, what the hell do they do ?

We are borrowed up to 88% of GDP, sounds terrible, however the Spaniards and the Italian's would take it.

The good thing is, borrowing is cheap, the bad thing, it's still to pay back.


See this is why i stopped posting on this thread.

There's only one way of life and that's your own!!!

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