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13 Jan 2020 06:47 #1 by Kessler
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Why is Meghan Markle getting criticized for wanting a private life, but Prince Andrew is allowed to gracefully step back from the spotlight despite everything he's alleged to have done? Sad to see that sexism and racism is still lingering in Britain.

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13 Jan 2020 07:18 #2 by Graemehud
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Sexism and racism, do me a favour.
Do you snowflakes have to see an ‘ism’ in everything.
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13 Jan 2020 07:19 #3 by Dentonholmersimpson
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Kessler wrote: Why is Meghan Markle getting criticized for wanting a private life, but Prince Andrew is allowed to gracefully step back from the spotlight despite everything he's alleged to have done? Sad to see that sexism and racism is still lingering in Britain.


Perhaps if she wanted a private life it wasn't the best career move to marry a royal and 18 months later decide she wants out at the tax payers expense.

We are stuck with Andrew, he was born ito the royal family.
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13 Jan 2020 07:25 #4 by Graemehud
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By the way, isn’t it funny that the taxpayer paid millions to upgrade their home only for them to decide to walk from the job.
Take away their titles, royal protection and payments from the taxpayer if they want to be ‘ordinary’ people.
Ditto Andrew and his spawn. Liggers.
Find an ‘ism’ in that one snowflake

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13 Jan 2020 08:10 #5 by Kessler
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Graemehud wrote: By the way, isn’t it funny that the taxpayer paid millions to upgrade their home only for them to decide to walk from the job.
Take away their titles, royal protection and payments from the taxpayer if they want to be ‘ordinary’ people.
Ditto Andrew and his spawn. Liggers.
Find an ‘ism’ in that one snowflake


Taking away their protection isn't a realistic option. Because of their status they face a heightened risk, whether or not they step back from royal duties.

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13 Jan 2020 08:11 #6 by Mouldy
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Payment from the taxpayers isn’t much of their income - allegedly. 95% of the income is from Harry’s dad through the Duchy. Remaining 5% is from the crown grant apparently.

They won’t be shy of a bob or two either with her history and his inheritance when a Princess D passed. If anything they could end up earning more cash than they can now as (they claim) the 5% income from crown grant actually restricts the other income they can earn from private working sources. Admittedly I have no idea how true or otherwise; how it works in reality could well be very different to how it should work.

I’m sure they’ll benefit still, but don’t think they’re as reliant on that cash and status as they might be made out to be.

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13 Jan 2020 08:26 #7 by BorderReiver
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Harry was OK until SHE came along. Mrs Wallis mark 2 me thinks
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13 Jan 2020 08:30 #8 by nobbyblue
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Kessler wrote: Why is Meghan Markle getting criticized for wanting a private life, but Prince Andrew is allowed to gracefully step back from the spotlight despite everything he's alleged to have done? Sad to see that sexism and racism is still lingering in Britain.


Prince Andrew has lost a lot of his income though (not before time!). If Harry and Meghan want to go their own way fair enough but the tax payer shouldn't be financing it. You can't have it both ways.

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13 Jan 2020 08:33 #9 by Dentonholmersimpson
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Kessler wrote:

Graemehud wrote: By the way, isn’t it funny that the taxpayer paid millions to upgrade their home only for them to decide to walk from the job.
Take away their titles, royal protection and payments from the taxpayer if they want to be ‘ordinary’ people.
Ditto Andrew and his spawn. Liggers.
Find an ‘ism’ in that one snowflake


Taking away their protection isn't a realistic option. Because of their status they face a heightened risk, whether or not they step back from royal duties.


Don't take it away,make them pay for it, the one given about being a royal is you have to forego a private life.

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13 Jan 2020 08:36 #10 by Graemehud
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BorderReiver wrote: Harry was OK until SHE came along. Mrs Wallis mark 2 me thinks


True, Harry, William and Kate were all buddies, along comes snowflake Megan and they are all at each other’s throats.
Is that because Kate and William are racist/sexist Kessler or maybe it is because Megan is a self centred bitch.
Look how she treated her father (who admittedly did himself no favours) but she should have been the bigger person in that scenario.

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13 Jan 2020 08:37 #11 by ParcelPete
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Mouldy wrote: Payment from the taxpayers isn’t much of their income - allegedly. 95% of the income is from Harry’s dad through the Duchy. Remaining 5% is from the crown grant apparently.

They won’t be shy of a bob or two either with her history and his inheritance when a Princess D passed. If anything they could end up earning more cash than they can now as (they claim) the 5% income from crown grant actually restricts the other income they can earn from private working sources. Admittedly I have no idea how true or otherwise; how it works in reality could well be very different to how it should work.

I’m sure they’ll benefit still, but don’t think they’re as reliant on that cash and status as they might be made out to be.


"95% of the income is from Harry's dad".
Didn't think James was that rich.
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13 Jan 2020 08:41 #12 by Dentonholmersimpson
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Graemehud wrote:

BorderReiver wrote: Harry was OK until SHE came along. Mrs Wallis mark 2 me thinks


True, Harry, William and Kate were all buddies, along comes snowflake Megan and they are all at each other’s throats.
Is that because Kate and William are racist/sexist Kessler or maybe it is because Megan is a self centred bitch.
Look how she treated her father (who admittedly did himself no favours) but she should have been the bigger person in that scenario.


Harry has changed from probably everybody's favourite royal, down to earth, one of the lads, to a morose, unhappy looking individual.

Under the thumb, by the looks of it.
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13 Jan 2020 09:00 #13 by sirjimmyglass
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Absolutely incredible that anybody cares about this stuff.

The whole lot of them are a bunch of work shy freeloaders. Where they want to be work shy freeloaders, and who with, makes no difference whatsoever to any of you.

Get a grip.
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13 Jan 2020 09:02 - 13 Jan 2020 09:03 #14 by CCU
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This all kicked off after the Queen released that Picture of her with Charles, William and George (The next 3 King’s).



Meghan’s took huff ain’t she?!

Win or Lose, Up The Blues!
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13 Jan 2020 09:20 #15 by Dancingbear
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Bet she’s been getting in Harry’s ear telling him they’ve mugged him right off.

There's only one way of life and that's your own!!!
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13 Jan 2020 09:42 #16 by NORTHERNSOUL
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Dancingbear wrote: Bet she’s been getting in Harry’s ear telling him they’ve mugged him right off.


Should never have been allowed to marry her in the first place.

Any number of reasons but the list gets longer with every day that goes by.

Never understood why he even wanted to get married in the first place Could have put it about for 20 years and then married some minor foreign royal. Job sorted and not a bad result for a Ginner

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13 Jan 2020 09:55 #17 by orfc
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Dentonholmersimpson wrote:

Graemehud wrote:

BorderReiver wrote: Harry was OK until SHE came along. Mrs Wallis mark 2 me thinks


True, Harry, William and Kate were all buddies, along comes snowflake Megan and they are all at each other’s throats.
Is that because Kate and William are racist/sexist Kessler or maybe it is because Megan is a self centred bitch.
Look how she treated her father (who admittedly did himself no favours) but she should have been the bigger person in that scenario.


Harry has changed from probably everybody's favourite royal, down to earth, one of the lads, to a morose, unhappy looking individual.

Under the thumb, by the looks of it.



Interestingly enough, it's a well known theme that an abusive person will try and separate their partner from their friends and family

www.breakthecycle.org/blog/know-signs-sp...n-friends-and-family

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13 Jan 2020 10:04 #18 by High Street
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He seen his mother hounded to death by the press, and presumably doesnt want the same for his wife.
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13 Jan 2020 10:08 #19 by nobbyblue
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NORTHERNSOUL wrote:

Dancingbear wrote: Bet she’s been getting in Harry’s ear telling him they’ve mugged him right off.


Should never have been allowed to marry her in the first place.

Any number of reasons but the list gets longer with every day that goes by.

Never understood why he even wanted to get married in the first place Could have put it about for 20 years and then married some minor foreign royal. Job sorted and not a bad result for a Ginner


"Actresses are for dating not for marrying" - Prince Phillip

That quote might have been cleaned up a bit,

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13 Jan 2020 10:12 #20 by yoonited
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Meghan's fed up of the racism here in the UK, so she's going to Canada where the Prime Minister blacks up, with her husband who likes to wear Nazi uniforms.
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13 Jan 2020 11:00 #21 by thesilentone
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The Crown is an institution, the Queen and all the rest own Nowt !!

"Doing his house up " who's house ?

Our Royal Family is the last great ruling family on the Planet, wan't to know what an A list celeb is, be around when the Queen arrives anywhere. The so-called most powerful Man on the Planet pays homage.

The UK Monarchy was estimated to add an additional £1.8 Bn to the UK economy.

I say let them back out, and leave them alone, anyone who brings racism into the argument is by definition a racist.
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13 Jan 2020 15:51 #22 by munchymagic
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If any more proof was needed that Kes is indeed female then this thread is proof of it.

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13 Jan 2020 16:14 #23 by hampshire_blue
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thesilentone wrote: The UK Monarchy was estimated to add an additional £1.8 Bn to the UK economy.


Is it the Monarchy or is it the building they live in which hordes of tourists from the USA/Japan etc. come to see?

Turf them all out, let the tourists actually look around and inside the buildings instead of looking at the outside of the palace, usually through the fence. This works for the likes of say the National Trust etc. Charge them for the privilege and then lets see how much money they would bring in.

Why should we pay to keep food on her table when it’s the property and not the people living in the property which the tourists come to see.

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13 Jan 2020 16:36 #24 by carwash
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It's ridiculous for Meghan to play the racism card. People don't like her for many different reasons - being American, being conceited, disrespecting the Royal Family, etc but definitely not because she has some African DNA.
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13 Jan 2020 16:48 #25 by Dancingbear
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hampshire_blue wrote:

thesilentone wrote: The UK Monarchy was estimated to add an additional £1.8 Bn to the UK economy.


Is it the Monarchy or is it the building they live in which hordes of tourists from the USA/Japan etc. come to see?

Turf them all out, let the tourists actually look around and inside the buildings instead of looking at the outside of the palace, usually through the fence. This works for the likes of say the National Trust etc. Charge them for the privilege and then lets see how much money they would bring in.

Why should we pay to keep food on her table when it’s the property and not the people living in the property which the tourists come to see.


Because if it wasn’t for the monarchy it wouldn’t be there in the first place.

There's only one way of life and that's your own!!!

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13 Jan 2020 17:20 - 14 Jan 2020 20:13 #26 by hampshire_blue
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Dancingbear wrote: Because if it wasn’t for the monarchy it wouldn’t be there in the first place.


Of course the buildings wouldn’t have been there if it wasn’t for the monarchy.

However, that’s like saying that you would only go to Brunton Park because Andrew Jenkins is the Chairman. I’m sure if he left, you‘d still go wouldn’t you...??
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13 Jan 2020 17:24 #27 by Bluedazblue
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munchymagic wrote: If any more proof was needed that Kes is indeed female then this thread is proof of it.


Titania McGrath?
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13 Jan 2020 17:27 #28 by High Street
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hampshire_blue wrote:

thesilentone wrote: The UK Monarchy was estimated to add an additional £1.8 Bn to the UK economy.


Is it the Monarchy or is it the building they live in which hordes of tourists from the USA/Japan etc. come to see?

Turf them all out, let the tourists actually look around and inside the buildings instead of looking at the outside of the palace, usually through the fence. This works for the likes of say the National Trust etc. Charge them for the privilege and then lets see how much money they would bring in.

Why should we pay to keep food on her table when it’s the property and not the people living in the property which the tourists come to see.


Really? Theres hundreds of Yanks hoping to catch a glimpse of the Queen through a window

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13 Jan 2020 17:31 - 14 Jan 2020 20:14 #29 by Dancingbear
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hampshire_blue wrote:

Dancingbear wrote: Because if it wasn’t for the monarchy it wouldn’t be there in the first place.


Of course the buildings wouldn’t have been there if it wasn’t for the monarchy.

However, that’s like saying that you would only go to Brunton Park because Andrew Jenkins is the Chairman. I’m sure if he left, you‘d still go wouldn’t you...??


Well technically hed have passed the baton on to someone else same as when our glorious Queen moves on.

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13 Jan 2020 17:33 #30 by ParcelPete
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Bluedazblue wrote:

munchymagic wrote: If any more proof was needed that Kes is indeed female then this thread is proof of it.


Titania McGrath?


I remember doing that in my maths class.

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13 Jan 2020 17:41 #31 by topstepwhinger
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At the risk of being accused of being a snowflake or even worse a woman I find it quite interesting that the majority of the anti monarchy comments seem to be coming from 'leavers'
Just a thought.
I presume Alan must be up a fell somewhere.

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13 Jan 2020 17:43 #32 by hampshire_blue
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High Street wrote:
Really? Theres hundreds of Yanks hoping to catch a glimpse of the Queen through a window


And there is hundreds of thousands of Tourists who would spend hard cash getting in there and having a ratch around. That’s what they really want to do, they might be Americans but they ain’t stupid enough to actually go all the way to London just in case they might be able to deek the Queen giving them a wave from the 4th floor.

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13 Jan 2020 17:50 #33 by NORTHERNSOUL
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topstepwhinger wrote: At the risk of being accused of being a snowflake or even worse a woman I find it quite interesting that the majority of the anti monarchy comments seem to be coming from 'leavers'
Just a thought.
I presume Alan must be up a fell somewhere.


Well i.m most definitely a lever and most definitely Pro Monarchy

But I feel they have to be strong on this one ie it's the Yank bitch or its the firm now get your mind made up Ginger One

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13 Jan 2020 17:56 #34 by Bluedazblue
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ParcelPete wrote:

Bluedazblue wrote:

munchymagic wrote: If any more proof was needed that Kes is indeed female then this thread is proof of it.


Titania McGrath?


I remember doing that in my maths class.


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13 Jan 2020 18:13 #35 by Drifter
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carwash wrote: It's ridiculous for Meghan to play the racism card. People don't like her for many different reasons - being American, being conceited, disrespecting the Royal Family, etc but definitely not because she has some African DNA.



I’m not a Royalist (actually I think I am until Tony Blair has no breath left) but there was a good chance the racism card was going to come into it at some point.

‘The Firm’ are not the quickest at changing and evolving, and sometimes that is a good thing and sometimes it is a bad thing. One thing is, it doesn’t change overnight. Kate is a very good example of an outsider and a ‘commoner’ (I hate that word – just as much as ‘comrade’) getting the idea and fitting in. The Megan’s issue is she didn’t ‘get’ or ‘know’ it.

People playing the racism card should remember Fergie – she didn’t ‘get’ it either and people didn’t like that and that wasn’t down to her colour (I’ll await the ginger comments). Also in her case she had an idiot of a husband.

It’s not easy being part of a major organisation and keep getting pushed down the pecking order and I get the gist Harry is affected by it. Even the Consorts sometimes have to button down and accept it but it can be difficult to come to terms with – look at Philip, Margaret, Andrew, Harry, Olomola. I get the feeling Harry was ripe for turning.

There is also the issue that Queenie will never properly forgive another American divorcee.

The staff gave the marriage three years. – I hope they can be happy cos I don’t know them and they don’t really mean anything to me but I can sympathise with Harry – it wasn’t his choice.

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13 Jan 2020 18:22 #36 by topstepwhinger
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I have a feeling Harry is no shrinking violet and that this is a lot more about what happened to his mother than anything to do with who he has chosen to be his wife. The tabloid press in this country are the scum of the earth as far as I am concerned and I don't know why people buy them unless they are good for wiping your a*** with.
Yes, in hindsight he may have handled things better by talking it through with Dad and Granny first, but I say good luck to them. However if they intend to go it alone, then they should really go it alone and be self supporting.

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13 Jan 2020 18:42 #37 by Dancingbear
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topstepwhinger wrote: At the risk of being accused of being a snowflake or even worse a woman I find it quite interesting that the majority of the anti monarchy comments seem to be coming from 'leavers'
Just a thought.
I presume Alan must be up a fell somewhere.


Wide of the mark here. Voted leave and am very pro monarchy.

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13 Jan 2020 18:45 #38 by Taffy-P
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Very interesting all these leavers are pro monarchy

Who votes for the Queen

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13 Jan 2020 20:23 #39 by seesaw50
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Maybe HMQ is of the opinion this marriage wont last so the door will be left open for Harry to have his fling in the real world, then return

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18 Jan 2020 22:43 #40 by Oldbluenewblue
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Any takes on soon not to be a HRH. The lad that is Harry. Good on him in my opinion. Sometimes common sense prevails and we dont follow the status quo.

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18 Jan 2020 23:31 #41 by ParcelPete
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Young couple who want to be rockin all over the world,good luck to them.
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19 Jan 2020 00:08 #42 by Bluedazblue
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ParcelPete wrote: Young couple who want to be rockin all over the world,good luck to them.


I'd prefer the status quo.
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19 Jan 2020 01:02 #43 by munchymagic
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Each to their own on this I guess.

I would love the 'job' as travelling the country and the world meeting interesting people and their cultures - all free of charge and staying in the finest places.

All the stuff about him seeing what happened to his mother with the press is odd as all that stuff happened when she was doing her own thing like he is doing now.

Basically if you keep your nose clean you can have a great life like William but start shagging around like Andrew, Charles and Diana did then you are asking for trouble.
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19 Jan 2020 01:30 #44 by Dancingbear
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I think it’s nice that he’s gonna pay back the £2.4million of taxpayers money for repairs to his house. Wonder where he got this other £2.4 million from. Good job I’m a royalist or I’d probably be a bit upset about that.

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19 Jan 2020 15:01 #45 by Chilledsilly
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Think they've missed a great opportunity to do a lot of good, and give the family the makeover it's been crying out for.

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19 Jan 2020 16:35 #46 by Mr Banks
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Good for them. When you get some a hole lioke Piers Morgan having a go at them you know it is a good step. They and their kid(s) will benefit greatly. And her father should take a good look at himself if he expects to see them.

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19 Jan 2020 20:24 #47 by Mr Quint
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Now I like Harry, however it made me smile to hear on Radio 4 how he and Meghan we’re going to manage financially.
It seemed to be felt that they would struggle. It was noted however that he had only inherited 7 million from his mother! I mean how’s he meant to manage on that!
In all seriousness surly being able to fly helicopters must be a potentially lucrative means of paying the bills? Especially in Canada?

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19 Jan 2020 20:55 #48 by markredfox73
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Aye bound to be plenty of rescue bases around for him ...he could always become a proper mountie.

Then Megan Markle can get in touch with tv execs..to reignite Due South.
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19 Jan 2020 23:24 #49 by Mullen103
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I’m a leaver but in two minds about the royal family - I’ve never been a fan of those born into wealth/honour and doesn’t set a good example but I’m sure it has its disadvantages as well.

I like Harry, he obviously loves his wife and wants to protect her. His given up his titles/money and his served his country in wars. Good luck to him!

At least we’re not Stockport

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19 Jan 2020 23:51 #50 by carwash
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I'm convinced that a big reason why Meghan has decided to go to Canada is because she wants more plastic surgery done. The consensus among cosmetic surgeons is that she had a nose job done about 20 years ago and since then she has used dermal fillers and botox to 'manage' her appearance. From her recent photos though this is no longer working and she needs something more drastic. Hence the need to hide away for a few months in Canada out of the public eye.

If you haven't seen Question Time last week I would thoroughly recommend watching Laurence Fox's (Hathaway from Lewis)contributions to the debate on iplayer. To me he was just the voice of common sense but he created a storm of protest from the lefties for his non-woke stance.
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