FA Cup..Play Half The Youth , League is our Priority

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13 Jan 2020 07:29 #1 by Onlyfoolsandhorses
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The Fa cup is just a distraction to Carlisle , by Wednesday night with morcambe and Stevenage playing we could be right in the s#it
So my option would be play half the youth for experience and concentrate on the league game with Oldham.
Hallam hope saying we will be confident in the replay?.. Christ he needs to start scoring and earning his wages
3 goals in 28 games on £1800 a week he should not be doing interviews but spending the extra time on shooting.

As always just an opinion.

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13 Jan 2020 08:01 #2 by orfc
Never bought the argument about cups being a distraction, at the moment we're shit regardless

The only guarantee is that beating Cardiff brings in more cash, which may be in time to get a couple of signings or help speed the eternal custodians on their way
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13 Jan 2020 08:04 #3 by Markovitch
The team needs wholesale surgery. Beating Cardiff means another £150k? Give that to beech to bring in new players.
Imagine if we beat Cardiff and get man c or Liverpool? Could be worth a million.
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13 Jan 2020 08:12 #4 by Mouldy
Cup games have been more enjoyable to watch!


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13 Jan 2020 08:12 #5 by Southernblue
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Markovitch wrote: The team needs wholesale surgery. Beating Cardiff means another £150k? Give that to beech to bring in new players.
Imagine if we beat Cardiff and get man c or Liverpool? Could be worth a million.


If we beat Cardiff we've then got to beat either Blackpool or Reading before we could get City, Liverpool or anyone else for that matter
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13 Jan 2020 08:13 - 13 Jan 2020 08:14 #6 by Mouldy
For a lower league club, it’s madness to me that we’d say ‘focus on the league’. Chase the fairy tale cup tie and earn cash along the way whilst creating memories for fans. We’ve got very few positive ones for the last 10 years.


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13 Jan 2020 08:23 #7 by nobbyblue
The FA Cup is a waste of time if it wasn't for the money. It would be madness to just throw away the chance of a not inconsiderable prize.

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13 Jan 2020 09:01 #8 by NORTHERNSOUL
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Markovitch wrote: The team needs wholesale surgery. Beating Cardiff means another £150k? Give that to beech to bring in new players.
Imagine if we beat Cardiff and get man c or Liverpool? Could be worth a million.


And half of a 12k plus gate at Blackpool who will be charging full prices
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13 Jan 2020 10:28 #9 by CUFC52
Personally I hope we take it seriously, win and a very good chance of making the 5th round (not sure we’ve made it in my life time)...

As for playing the youth team, I think we’d have a problem when it turns out:

Lightfoot can kick a ball, tackle and stand in line...

Armstrong and charters can pass and tackle...

Leaves a problem for Beech how can he drop his beloved Webster and Jones...

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13 Jan 2020 10:35 #10 by Onlyfoolsandhorses
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Mouldy....are you serious, there is no fairytale in the conference it’s now one of the hardest leagues to get out of , we get one year funding and then everything goes, academy, office jobs, probably sell the ground.

Let’s get on the fairytale with your Carlisle goggles on as you clearly see something we have to offer in league games than what I’ve been watching.
Saturday we could be in serious serious trouble if results go against us.

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13 Jan 2020 10:41 #11 by Dancingbear
Fielding a weakened team on wednesday wont improve our chances next saturday by much if at all. You think theyre gonna turn into world beaters by having a day off?

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13 Jan 2020 10:41 #12 by Arragorn
we are already in serious trouble and nobody at the top seems to care.
Our recruitment is being done by a failed non-league manager and the coaching is in the hands of his protégé who's current record is abysmal.
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13 Jan 2020 10:47 #13 by Onlyfoolsandhorses
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That About sums it up...Markovitch saying what if we get liverpool ? Does he even look at the fixtures ?? Reading or Blackpool and we got absolutely no chance of beating reading.
It’s seems to me some fans are deluded in thinking this January is going to be a good points haul, there is absolutely no form or consistency from the team what so ever so no confidence going into any game
Regardless of the Fa cup result a Fight in the conference with no money will be a disaster.

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13 Jan 2020 10:53 #14 by Dancingbear

Onlyfoolsandhorses wrote: That About sums it up...Markovitch saying what if we get liverpool ? Does he even look at the fixtures ?? Reading or Blackpool and we got absolutely no chance of beating reading.
It’s seems to me some fans are deluded in thinking this January is going to be a good points haul, there is absolutely no form or consistency from the team what so ever so no confidence going into any game
Regardless of the Fa cup result a Fight in the conference with no money will be a disaster.


Reading are below Cardiff in the league so if we can beat Cardiff why do we have no chance against them?

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13 Jan 2020 10:54 #15 by seesaw50

Onlyfoolsandhorses wrote: The Fa cup is just a distraction to Carlisle , by Wednesday night with morcambe and Stevenage playing we could be right in the s#it
So my option would be play half the youth for experience and concentrate on the league game with Oldham.
Hallam hope saying we will be confident in the replay?.. Christ he needs to start scoring and earning his wages
3 goals in 28 games on £1800 a week he should not be doing interviews but spending the extra time on shooting.

As always just an opinion.


On the flip side

The senior players need as much "match practice " as possible....full strength team for me

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13 Jan 2020 11:51 #16 by Onlyfoolsandhorses
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Reading are top of the championship league FORM table, Cardiff having a bit of a slide

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13 Jan 2020 11:54 #17 by Onlyfoolsandhorses
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Dancing bear , let’s hope no injuries or sendings off

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13 Jan 2020 11:56 #18 by Onlyfoolsandhorses
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It’s also looking like we can’t get a striker at the moment which shows players do not want to come to a relegation fight,

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13 Jan 2020 12:15 #19 by Waltero
No player wants a relegation season on his cv
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13 Jan 2020 12:36 #20 by High Street
I’m tempted to go to this. Id like to see the two new signings you said we weren’t making.
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13 Jan 2020 14:25 #21 by Markovitch

Onlyfoolsandhorses wrote: That About sums it up...Markovitch saying what if we get liverpool ? Does he even look at the fixtures ?? Reading or Blackpool and we got absolutely no chance of beating reading.
It’s seems to me some fans are deluded in thinking this January is going to be a good points haul, there is absolutely no form or consistency from the team what so ever so no confidence going into any game
Regardless of the Fa cup result a Fight in the conference with no money will be a disaster.


The James Berrett award for over-enthusiasm goes to Fools. So if we beat Cardiff we get relegated? Er, no. And who says we can't beat Reading or Blackpool? Let's give up before we start.

Our best chance of pulling away from the bottom is by getting shot of some of the deadwood and replacing them with better players, the easiest way to do that is by getting some cash from the cup
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13 Jan 2020 14:43 #22 by Onlyfoolsandhorses
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The Gary Madine award for numpty....you never even knew we had reading or blackpool, if we can’t beat Plymouth at home we have zero chance against both of those two away.
You must just follow carlisle and not look at league form or other divisions, both reading and blackpool are in good form in a division above .

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13 Jan 2020 14:46 #23 by Onlyfoolsandhorses
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The points about deadwood is correct but we are at the bottom of league 2 so what striker will want to come to Carlisle ?.
Apparently beech has said we have missed out on two strikers.
I would like to have a side bet with you that end of January you will be thinking differently when conference is looming

Again just an opinion but form doesn’t lie

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13 Jan 2020 14:50 #24 by Dancingbear

Onlyfoolsandhorses wrote: The points about deadwood is correct but we are at the bottom of league 2 so what striker will want to come to Carlisle ?.
Apparently beech has said we have missed out on two strikers.
I would like to have a side bet with you that end of January you will be thinking differently when conference is looming

Again just an opinion but form doesn’t lie


So if Reading are so bloody good how come they struggled to get a late draw at home to a club a division below them? They prob would beat us but theres no guarantee of anything. Same as theres no guarantee that playing our youth team against Cardiff will get us any more league points.

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13 Jan 2020 14:52 #25 by pigeonpete
Playing the youth team in a league game might get us more points!!!!!!
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13 Jan 2020 14:56 #26 by Onlyfoolsandhorses
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Very good point !!

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13 Jan 2020 14:56 #27 by Peekaboo Flo
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Has a club ever won the FA Cup and been relegated to the Conference in the same season? :D

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13 Jan 2020 14:56 #28 by Onlyfoolsandhorses
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Dancing bear look in to last 6 home and away form of reading

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13 Jan 2020 14:58 #29 by Onlyfoolsandhorses
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Well let’s see what all the fa cup dreamers think if we get smashed on Saturday at Oldham but win in the cup.
And fail to score again in the league

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13 Jan 2020 15:02 #30 by Onlyfoolsandhorses
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Also worried no strikers want to come, I would take the money from Everton for Jarrod and insist they give us 2 loan players until the end f the season.

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13 Jan 2020 15:11 #31 by CUFC52

Onlyfoolsandhorses wrote: Well let’s see what all the fa cup dreamers think if we get smashed on Saturday at Oldham but win in the cup.
And fail to score again in the league


Tbf id probably take being relegated to win the Fa cup....

We’d be the only conference team in history to get an away trip to the san siro....

We won’t be relegated the leauge is too poor.

As for your loan signing from Everton suggestion... why on earth would any club want to loan us players? Look at our loan record from Jan:
Slater - usless didn’t develop
Thomas - average didn’t develop
O’Hare - the exception.
Cullen: got injured didn’t score
Simpson: usless didn’t play
Carrol: very little game time
Loft: didn’t develop little game time.
Sorrenson: usless didn’t play.
Olomola: limited game time.


I can’t imagine their will be many clubs keen to loan us players...
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13 Jan 2020 15:13 #32 by Onlyfoolsandhorses
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I can forgive the Crewe, Plymouth and Colchester games as all top 8 teams but if we don’t win against Oldham then would say it’s squeaky bum time until the end of the season,

Those 3 games we were smashed without scoring so the worry for me is goals

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13 Jan 2020 15:42 #33 by Onlyfoolsandhorses
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The loan deals would be part of the Branthwaite sale,

Sell him but we also get two loan players until the end of the season to help us stay up, I thought we would be ok in staying up but the more I look at the games coming up and our recent goal drought I do worry it could go to last game of the season and sods laws we have Stevenage at home who are also with us struggling which makes me think it will happen

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13 Jan 2020 15:45 #34 by thetashkentterror
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We could sign ten players today and tomorrow, but they still wouldn't be able to play on Wednesday night.
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13 Jan 2020 15:48 #35 by thetashkentterror
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Onlyfoolsandhorses wrote: I can forgive the Crewe, Plymouth and Colchester games as all top 8 teams but if we don’t win against Oldham then would say it’s squeaky bum time until the end of the season,

Those 3 games we were smashed without scoring so the worry for me is goals



Without scoring?

I think you'll find we won the second half against Crewe 1-0.

Ask Andrew Jenkins.
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13 Jan 2020 16:16 #36 by Onlyfoolsandhorses
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Oh yeah. Sorry 4-1

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13 Jan 2020 16:18 #37 by Onlyfoolsandhorses
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Why risk injuries when Saturdays game with Oldham is absolutely massive especially as morcambe and Stevenage play tomorrow and could close the gap

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13 Jan 2020 18:10 #38 by NORTHERNSOUL
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Onlyfoolsandhorses wrote: Reading are top of the championship league FORM table, Cardiff having a bit of a slide


And their manager has already said he.ll be making 10 changes tomorrow against the Lashers Only player staying in is Charlie Adam and he's just as likely to stick one in his own net just to keep the Lashers love affair with him going.

Blackpool are well up for it and can't wait to turn us over in front of an almost full Bloomfield road derby crowd.
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13 Jan 2020 19:47 #39 by Onlyfoolsandhorses
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So he’s taking the fa cup serious

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14 Jan 2020 10:40 #40 by Flatcap
Of course take the FA Cup seriously. It is a proper competition unlike the EFL Trophy.

Are you suggesting that it would be more beneficial for the regular first teamers to do training rather play in the FA Cup?
Would you be saying the same if we were going to be playing a top Premier League club instead in the cup?
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14 Jan 2020 10:46 #41 by nobbyblue
Nobody takes the FA Cup seriously that's the problem. The competition has been devalued to the point it's not much better than the EFL Trophy.

The prize money keeps it interesting for the smaller clubs though.

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14 Jan 2020 10:57 #42 by Flatcap

nobbyblue wrote: Nobody takes the FA Cup seriously that's the problem. The competition has been devalued to the point it's not much better than the EFL Trophy.

The prize money keeps it interesting for the smaller clubs though.


Just like the EFL trophy then.

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14 Jan 2020 11:30 #43 by NORTHERNSOUL
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nobbyblue wrote: Nobody takes the FA Cup seriously that's the problem. The competition has been devalued to the point it's not much better than the EFL Trophy.

The prize money keeps it interesting for the smaller clubs though.


Sod off Nobby

Or do you think that us against the Lashers at BR in front of 12 thousand pissed up beying for blood fans wouldn't be interesting?

Take a look at the video from their game against the Cods just before Xmas and then ramp it up times ten and that's what we could have if people got behind it.

Assuming the next couple of days go the right way of course.

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14 Jan 2020 11:51 #44 by nobbyblue
It ain't going to happen as we've absolutely no [censored] chance in beating Cardiff.

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14 Jan 2020 14:20 #45 by Onlyfoolsandhorses
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The only single benefit is the money received from the FA cup.
Will that be spent wisely ........doubt that

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14 Jan 2020 14:50 #46 by bluebry

nobbyblue wrote: It ain't going to happen as we've absolutely no [censored] chance in beating Cardiff.


Most people thought we had no ([censored]) chance of bringing them back to Brunton Park either.
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14 Jan 2020 15:23 #47 by Onlyfoolsandhorses
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They were exceptionally poor first half and got back in the game within 10 minutes of the second half but never pushed on, Not sure they want this tie to be fair as not playing particularly well since warnock left

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14 Jan 2020 19:29 #48 by nobbyblue
Reading with 11 changes tonight. Blackpool got a strong team out.

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14 Jan 2020 19:56 #49 by NORTHERNSOUL
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nobbyblue wrote: Reading with 11 changes tonight. Blackpool got a strong team out.


Alright I was one out

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14 Jan 2020 20:33 #50 by nobbyblue
Reading one up

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