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12 Feb 2020 18:37 #51 by crunchblue
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Fair play to Steven Pressley, when he released Richie Bennett I thought it would be impossible to sign a worse replacement...

Then he brings in Ryan Loft.

Absolutely shite.

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12 Feb 2020 19:51 #52 by HuntingHorn
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Collin 6
Indecisive, quiet, flappy and generally looks nervous. Yet see him come off his line to claim a cross even when the weather isn’t terrible...to me he hasn’t improved much since he left the first time.
G Jones 7
Did nothing wrong, competently
Anderton 6
Didn’t really do much wrong either, so criticism is unfair, maybe still lacking a little fitness but main drawback is refrigerated treacle moves faster
Hayden MOTM 8
Not a foot wrong, stands out above all others at the moment.
Webster 7
Odd touch let’s him down and he will screw up again but looks born again under Beech
M Jones 7
Worked tirelessly, best I’ve seen him in a while and another who’s improved immeasurably under Beech
Guy 7
Let’s hope he’s ok, looked decent until that tackle.
Watt 8
Weird one, giving him 8 because he looked like a quality creator without actually creating anything, if the weather hadn’t been so crap might have been different. I can see him dictating games on better surfaces soon, looks class.
Thomas 4
Described as an enigma on BBCRC...sums him up perfectly. Awesome v FGR, v Cheltenham a plethora of heavy touches, poor choices and woeful set pieces. Not his best game by a long way but next game could be the total opposite.
Patrick 6
Didn’t really get much service and had to go hunting for the ball at times, didn’t have a great game but showed flashes of what he could do and he could be a total handful, him and Kayode could cause utter havoc.
Alesandra 7
Without creating or finishing anything this lad still oozes class. Touch is brilliant, brings others in to play, links up front and middle brilliantly, another who is going to be a master stroke signing when the weather and pitches improve...not sure he was brought in to score, think he’s doing his role as expected as he is, really like this lad.

Subs
Iredale 7
Some of his forward play was brilliant, did nothing wrong in defence but we all know he has a wobble in his locker. If you could combine the best of Iredale with the best of Anderton we’d have a top notch LB, put over the cross of the night that nobody gambled on.
Olomola 4
Unfair to give more, unfair to criticise given how long he was on. Didn’t really make any difference.
Loft 3
Why is he even in the match day squad? Waste of a loan slot. He’s just not a league footballer, not as a forward. Suspect when his Leicester deal is up he’ll be on his way to non league and a real job.

Strange game the conditions obviously messed with. We looked decent, compare that performance to earlier in the season and the difference is incredible.
Nobody did much wrong, nobody really deserved criticism besides Thomas, another night that could have been our game but as said, they just managed conditions better and they employ our Achilles heel in that fat Womble they have up front, does he ever miss against Carlisle United?

The officials didn’t cover themselves in glory but we should and could have cancelled that out...suppose when someone chops One of our players in the box and he doesn’t even give the corner you’re in trouble.

Despite the result I actually enjoyed watching it. Long time since I’ve thought that after a loss.

It's better to be silent and assumed a fool than to speak and remove all doubt
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12 Feb 2020 19:55 #53 by Sammy Taylor
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Kessler... EWM will be taking over in the close season , boycotting matches and demonstrations will only dig the black hole you`re talking about and may cause EWM to pull out.

If this Club were to go bust it would be people like that caused it.!

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12 Feb 2020 20:41 #54 by Molly123
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Sammy Taylor wrote: Kessler... EWM will be taking over in the close season , boycotting matches and demonstrations will only dig the black hole you`re talking about and may cause EWM to pull out.

If this Club were to go bust it would be people like that caused it.!


Is this wishful thinking Sammy or have you got some news you'd like to share?

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12 Feb 2020 21:32 #55 by Graemehud
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Kessler wrote:

BlueBanana wrote: Anyone fancy chipping in for a 'kessler out' banner?


Once the BOD leave, I will no longer post on this forum.


Let’s pretend that the board have all resigned so you can [censored] off Kessler. You muppet

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12 Feb 2020 21:53 #56 by NORTHERNSOUL
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Sammy Taylor wrote: Kessler... EWM will be taking over in the close season , boycotting matches and demonstrations will only dig the black hole you`re talking about and may cause EWM to pull out.

If this Club were to go bust it would be people like that caused it.!



Day has had numerous opportunities to come out and say what his plans are and until he does and they meet with my approval i.d rather he just [censored] off and we could start to blow that stash under Jenkins bed.

And if his plans don't involve injecting a sum each year to cover a half million-pound loss then the tight arsed [censored] might as well just [censored] off now and leave the fans to sort the mess out.

We've been lumbered with one load of knobs who haven't a clue about how to run a lower league football club for the last decade and the last thing we need now is some [censored] with deep pockets sunning himself in Dubai while he leaves the club in the hands of an arse hole like Holdsworth.
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12 Feb 2020 22:09 #57 by CUFC52
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NORTHERNSOUL wrote:

Sammy Taylor wrote: Kessler... EWM will be taking over in the close season , boycotting matches and demonstrations will only dig the black hole you`re talking about and may cause EWM to pull out.

If this Club were to go bust it would be people like that caused it.!



Day has had numerous opportunities to come out and say what his plans are and until he does and they meet with my approval i.d rather he just [censored] off and we could start to blow that stash under Jenkins bed.

And if his plans don't involve injecting a sum each year to cover a half million-pound loss then the tight arsed [censored] might as well just [censored] off now and leave the fans to sort the mess out.

We've been lumbered with one load of knobs who haven't a clue about how to run a lower league football club for the last decade and the last thing we need now is some [censored] with deep pockets sunning himself in Dubai while he leaves the club in the hands of an arse hole like Holdsworth.


Mr Day lives in Switzerland.

Not much sun their

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12 Feb 2020 23:55 #58 by tommycoleman1
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He quotes his residance as Switzerland, but he actually lives in Dubai.

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13 Feb 2020 09:56 #59 by bluebry
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munchymagic wrote:

bluebry wrote:

Urban Designer wrote:

bluebry wrote: Disappointing night, I thought they controlled the conditions better than we did, and their back four were a very tight, closely knit outfit.
However there were quite a few bright signs, and I thought we were unlucky not to get a point.

Collin - 5 Not convinced this season, opts to punch rather than catch a lot more than I would have liked, however understandable with the weather tonight.
G Jones - 7 Solid as ever
Anderton - 6 Faded a bit in second half but put in a decent shift.
Hayden - 8.5 Very close to being man of the Match again, kind of wonder what on earth went through Pressley's mind when he failed to involve him game after game after game.....baffling
Webster - 9 Won everything, was playing a captains role urging everybody forward, never hid from a challenge, on this form he will be here next season, and on this form I will be more than happy.
M. Jones - 7 Worked his backside off
Watt - 8.5 Another candidate for MOTM, had an excellent second half, never misplaced a pass and was urging everybody on.
Guy - 7 A lot of promise, so disappointing to see him leave the action on a stretcher, really hope its not as bad as it looked.
Thomas - 6 Very frustrating night, we all know on his day he can be a match winner, but he really needs to learn when to shoot and when to lay the ball off to a team mate in a better position.
Patrick - 7 His pace will upset any defence in this division, however needs to be a bit more composed in front of goal, very promising IMO!!
Alessandra - 7 Tricky little player, moves into space well, think he needs a goal.

Subs All OK but nowt special, would have liked to seen Bridge on instead of Iredale when Guy got injured.

Ref - 4 A clown, missed loads, and their players were simply taking the urine with the time wasting.
Linesman on Paddock side - 1 Could not wait to get his flag up, I know where I would have liked to stick it, was wondering if he came up on the Cheltenham bus???

Beech - 7 Thought the team selection was more or less spot on, however would have liked to see Bridge replace Guy, after his performance on Saturday.


Jesus - high marks for getting beat at home off a glorified non league pub team!

I see Carlisle 2/3 times a season now but how have expectations of the fans have gone down to this level?

Owners 'skint' after the highest 'football fortune for years'!


Well that 'pub' team are a lot higher in the league than we are, they have also done the double over us, so calling them a pub team is very narrow minded.
And you've watched us 2/3 times a season, well blow me down, so you've no real idea how much we have or haven't improved over the last 2/3 months, kind of says it all.
And why can't we be a bit more optimistic? these green shoots that Pressley kept harping on about are only now starting to show long after he's gone.


Give over Bry - stop believing this crap that Pressley had any green shoots, your mate nearly wrecked the club yet all you can do is harp on about how crap Curle was all the time.

If we had took your advice and gave the useless get Pressley more time then we would have been rock bottom by now.

Just goes to show that personally knowing a crap manager and players clouds your judgement over if they are any good or not - look at Jenkins for example.


I take it you can read can't you Muncky, I didn't believe for once Pressley had ANY green shoots that's why I put "now starting to show long after hes gone". I only believed he should be given more time in the summer where he had more time to build his own squad and 3 of that seasons best players had gone, and don't tell me you 'knew this would happen' because nobody knew.

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13 Feb 2020 17:49 #60 by munchymagic
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bluebry wrote:

munchymagic wrote:

bluebry wrote:

Urban Designer wrote:

bluebry wrote: Disappointing night, I thought they controlled the conditions better than we did, and their back four were a very tight, closely knit outfit.
However there were quite a few bright signs, and I thought we were unlucky not to get a point.

Collin - 5 Not convinced this season, opts to punch rather than catch a lot more than I would have liked, however understandable with the weather tonight.
G Jones - 7 Solid as ever
Anderton - 6 Faded a bit in second half but put in a decent shift.
Hayden - 8.5 Very close to being man of the Match again, kind of wonder what on earth went through Pressley's mind when he failed to involve him game after game after game.....baffling
Webster - 9 Won everything, was playing a captains role urging everybody forward, never hid from a challenge, on this form he will be here next season, and on this form I will be more than happy.
M. Jones - 7 Worked his backside off
Watt - 8.5 Another candidate for MOTM, had an excellent second half, never misplaced a pass and was urging everybody on.
Guy - 7 A lot of promise, so disappointing to see him leave the action on a stretcher, really hope its not as bad as it looked.
Thomas - 6 Very frustrating night, we all know on his day he can be a match winner, but he really needs to learn when to shoot and when to lay the ball off to a team mate in a better position.
Patrick - 7 His pace will upset any defence in this division, however needs to be a bit more composed in front of goal, very promising IMO!!
Alessandra - 7 Tricky little player, moves into space well, think he needs a goal.

Subs All OK but nowt special, would have liked to seen Bridge on instead of Iredale when Guy got injured.

Ref - 4 A clown, missed loads, and their players were simply taking the urine with the time wasting.
Linesman on Paddock side - 1 Could not wait to get his flag up, I know where I would have liked to stick it, was wondering if he came up on the Cheltenham bus???

Beech - 7 Thought the team selection was more or less spot on, however would have liked to see Bridge replace Guy, after his performance on Saturday.


Jesus - high marks for getting beat at home off a glorified non league pub team!

I see Carlisle 2/3 times a season now but how have expectations of the fans have gone down to this level?

Owners 'skint' after the highest 'football fortune for years'!


Well that 'pub' team are a lot higher in the league than we are, they have also done the double over us, so calling them a pub team is very narrow minded.
And you've watched us 2/3 times a season, well blow me down, so you've no real idea how much we have or haven't improved over the last 2/3 months, kind of says it all.
And why can't we be a bit more optimistic? these green shoots that Pressley kept harping on about are only now starting to show long after he's gone.


Give over Bry - stop believing this crap that Pressley had any green shoots, your mate nearly wrecked the club yet all you can do is harp on about how crap Curle was all the time.

If we had took your advice and gave the useless get Pressley more time then we would have been rock bottom by now.

Just goes to show that personally knowing a crap manager and players clouds your judgement over if they are any good or not - look at Jenkins for example.


I take it you can read can't you Muncky, I didn't believe for once Pressley had ANY green shoots that's why I put "now starting to show long after hes gone". I only believed he should be given more time in the summer where he had more time to build his own squad and 3 of that seasons best players had gone, and don't tell me you 'knew this would happen' because nobody knew.


I was one of the ones that was horrified that he got a new contract!

Destroyed our squad and was on course to taking us down - if Bury hadn't gone tits up and if Pressley was still in charge then relegation would have been nailed on.

Being a fan of Carlisle United I want them to do well like yourself regardless of if I like the manager or not and I desperately wanted Pressley to prove me wrong, sometimes you get a gut feeling and I don't think his performance the previous season merited a new deal.

I am warming to Beech but he has had to deserve that with the performances of the team and an upturn in results.

Sometimes it is not all about budgets but how a manager sets out and prepares his team, Pressley couldn't do this and although his ideas were great to hear he never implemented them therefore he was just full of hot air.

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13 Feb 2020 19:36 #61 by thetashkentterror
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This 'upturn in results' I keep on seeing everywhere as if, SO FAR I HASTEN TO ADD, the bloke is the Messiah isn't exactly groundbreaking you know.

Pressley - 17 games, 18 points, 1.06 points per game.

Beech - 13 games, 15 points, 1.15 points per game.

I'd be surprised if that difference doesn't get better over time, but at the moment you can only judge on the results there.
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13 Feb 2020 20:00 #62 by crunchblue
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When people mention the upturn in results, obviously they are on about the upturn in results recently, as in the last 2 to 3 weeks, the 5 game unbeaten run. Obviously.

Obviously.
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13 Feb 2020 20:26 #63 by munchymagic
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Again, a lot of it comes down to gut feeling and as I mentioned I reckon Beech has turned us from bad to average as a squad so anything like that is a positive.
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13 Feb 2020 20:58 #64 by thetashkentterror
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Just had a look for the gut feeling column in the league table, couldn't find it.
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13 Feb 2020 21:02 #65 by Tom
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Oi Tash. You’re letting a lot of talk of ‘Premiership’ go recently. Have your standards slipped or have you given up?

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13 Feb 2020 21:04 #66 by newcarlislefan
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Yes, you are right there are no points for gut feelings but I think, for me, despite a similar points haul to Pressley, there has been a shift and a sense that things are on the up.
Concrete, real, tangible improvements as well, not just hunches. Perhaps not reflected in points but when you compare to Pressley, a signs that things are getting better.
Defensively, Beech has really put a lid on the fannying about at the back once and for all. He’s brought in a left back who can defend and brought in from the cold a player who’s been turning in MOM performances of late.
If there’s just one reason to suggest Beech is an improvement on Pressley, then that’s it.
And despite reservations, nobody who’s seen Webster play recently couldn’t say he hasn’t improved. Beech deserves credit for this.
We’ve now a midfield that has some bite and has had some periods in games where it’s been on top. It’s looked better balanced recently. Grit and steel and all that. For all their technical ability it wasn’t working with Scougall and Bridge that well, particularly when both McKirdy and Thomas were in the side.
And up front, finally there’s some mobility and players who do press and do harry and do stretch the game.
The current side and the way it’s playing does actually look a bit like the team Pressley promised us all along – fit, energetic, pressing and playing well late into games.
They’re easy words to chuck about but there does seem to be a bit more confidence and resilience in the side at the moment.
I do think Beech has benefitted from having more cash available that wasn’t there for Pressley and we now have players that maybe we weren’t in a position to recruit in the Summer. Feels like we’re shopping in Tesco again rather than Aldi.
Perhaps Pressley could and would have bought a better quality of player in with more cash and longer term deals to offer. Who knows?
But, in hindsight it does seem naïve, at best, to suggest the side could do well by being fitter than all the other teams in the league. That was, in essence, what a lot of Pressley’s philosophy boiled down to, probably as a result of seeing the side running through treacle at the end of the previous season.
I bought it. I believed it. I did think, yes, maybe he’s right. We’ll out run and out press teams and just sweep them aside.
It almost sounds absurd now. If it was that easy, everybody would be spending the Summer in the sand dunes. It surely can’t be just about us needing to show some more fight.
I think under Pressley there was a sense that it was actually getting worse towards the end and he was really struggling under the pressure of it all. I felt for him as well. Some of the interviews with JP were a difficult listen.
With Beech, and it is early, it’s the opposite of that. It feels like we are on the right track. The team looks better balanced. Has a bit more confidence and is starting to look settled. We’ve even come from behind in a couple of games recently.
What Beech has done is to take it right back to basics. Defenders who can defend and let’s forget about Klopp and a low press.
A midfield who look like they can get a hold of a game, tackle and get us moved up the pitch and a forward line that can stretch an opposition’s back line.
5th from bottom of Division 4 is nothing to crow about and maybe it’s because the bar was so low but it does feel like it’s heading in the right direction.
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13 Feb 2020 21:23 #67 by bluebry
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newcarlislefan wrote: Yes, you are right there are no points for gut feelings but I think, for me, despite a similar points haul to Pressley, there has been a shift and a sense that things are on the up.
Concrete, real, tangible improvements as well, not just hunches. Perhaps not reflected in points but when you compare to Pressley, a signs that things are getting better.
Defensively, Beech has really put a lid on the fannying about at the back once and for all. He’s brought in a left back who can defend and brought in from the cold a player who’s been turning in MOM performances of late.
If there’s just one reason to suggest Beech is an improvement on Pressley, then that’s it.
And despite reservations, nobody who’s seen Webster play recently couldn’t say he hasn’t improved. Beech deserves credit for this.
We’ve now a midfield that has some bite and has had some periods in games where it’s been on top. It’s looked better balanced recently. Grit and steel and all that. For all their technical ability it wasn’t working with Scougall and Bridge that well, particularly when both McKirdy and Thomas were in the side.
And up front, finally there’s some mobility and players who do press and do harry and do stretch the game.
The current side and the way it’s playing does actually look a bit like the team Pressley promised us all along – fit, energetic, pressing and playing well late into games.
They’re easy words to chuck about but there does seem to be a bit more confidence and resilience in the side at the moment.
I do think Beech has benefitted from having more cash available that wasn’t there for Pressley and we now have players that maybe we weren’t in a position to recruit in the Summer. Feels like we’re shopping in Tesco again rather than Aldi.
Perhaps Pressley could and would have bought a better quality of player in with more cash and longer term deals to offer. Who knows?
But, in hindsight it does seem naïve, at best, to suggest the side could do well by being fitter than all the other teams in the league. That was, in essence, what a lot of Pressley’s philosophy boiled down to, probably as a result of seeing the side running through treacle at the end of the previous season.
I bought it. I believed it. I did think, yes, maybe he’s right. We’ll out run and out press teams and just sweep them aside.
It almost sounds absurd now. If it was that easy, everybody would be spending the Summer in the sand dunes. It surely can’t be just about us needing to show some more fight.
I think under Pressley there was a sense that it was actually getting worse towards the end and he was really struggling under the pressure of it all. I felt for him as well. Some of the interviews with JP were a difficult listen.
With Beech, and it is early, it’s the opposite of that. It feels like we are on the right track. The team looks better balanced. Has a bit more confidence and is starting to look settled. We’ve even come from behind in a couple of games recently.
What Beech has done is to take it right back to basics. Defenders who can defend and let’s forget about Klopp and a low press.
A midfield who look like they can get a hold of a game, tackle and get us moved up the pitch and a forward line that can stretch an opposition’s back line.
5th from bottom of Division 4 is nothing to crow about and maybe it’s because the bar was so low but it does feel like it’s heading in the right direction.


As ever, well thought out NCF.

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13 Feb 2020 21:42 #68 by bluebry
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munchymagic wrote:

bluebry wrote:

munchymagic wrote:

bluebry wrote:

Urban Designer wrote:

bluebry wrote: Disappointing night, I thought they controlled the conditions better than we did, and their back four were a very tight, closely knit outfit.
However there were quite a few bright signs, and I thought we were unlucky not to get a point.

Collin - 5 Not convinced this season, opts to punch rather than catch a lot more than I would have liked, however understandable with the weather tonight.
G Jones - 7 Solid as ever
Anderton - 6 Faded a bit in second half but put in a decent shift.
Hayden - 8.5 Very close to being man of the Match again, kind of wonder what on earth went through Pressley's mind when he failed to involve him game after game after game.....baffling
Webster - 9 Won everything, was playing a captains role urging everybody forward, never hid from a challenge, on this form he will be here next season, and on this form I will be more than happy.
M. Jones - 7 Worked his backside off
Watt - 8.5 Another candidate for MOTM, had an excellent second half, never misplaced a pass and was urging everybody on.
Guy - 7 A lot of promise, so disappointing to see him leave the action on a stretcher, really hope its not as bad as it looked.
Thomas - 6 Very frustrating night, we all know on his day he can be a match winner, but he really needs to learn when to shoot and when to lay the ball off to a team mate in a better position.
Patrick - 7 His pace will upset any defence in this division, however needs to be a bit more composed in front of goal, very promising IMO!!
Alessandra - 7 Tricky little player, moves into space well, think he needs a goal.

Subs All OK but nowt special, would have liked to seen Bridge on instead of Iredale when Guy got injured.

Ref - 4 A clown, missed loads, and their players were simply taking the urine with the time wasting.
Linesman on Paddock side - 1 Could not wait to get his flag up, I know where I would have liked to stick it, was wondering if he came up on the Cheltenham bus???

Beech - 7 Thought the team selection was more or less spot on, however would have liked to see Bridge replace Guy, after his performance on Saturday.


Jesus - high marks for getting beat at home off a glorified non league pub team!

I see Carlisle 2/3 times a season now but how have expectations of the fans have gone down to this level?

Owners 'skint' after the highest 'football fortune for years'!


Well that 'pub' team are a lot higher in the league than we are, they have also done the double over us, so calling them a pub team is very narrow minded.
And you've watched us 2/3 times a season, well blow me down, so you've no real idea how much we have or haven't improved over the last 2/3 months, kind of says it all.
And why can't we be a bit more optimistic? these green shoots that Pressley kept harping on about are only now starting to show long after he's gone.


Give over Bry - stop believing this crap that Pressley had any green shoots, your mate nearly wrecked the club yet all you can do is harp on about how crap Curle was all the time.

If we had took your advice and gave the useless get Pressley more time then we would have been rock bottom by now.

Just goes to show that personally knowing a crap manager and players clouds your judgement over if they are any good or not - look at Jenkins for example.


I take it you can read can't you Muncky, I didn't believe for once Pressley had ANY green shoots that's why I put "now starting to show long after hes gone". I only believed he should be given more time in the summer where he had more time to build his own squad and 3 of that seasons best players had gone, and don't tell me you 'knew this would happen' because nobody knew.


I was one of the ones that was horrified that he got a new contract!

Destroyed our squad and was on course to taking us down - if Bury hadn't gone tits up and if Pressley was still in charge then relegation would have been nailed on.

Being a fan of Carlisle United I want them to do well like yourself regardless of if I like the manager or not and I desperately wanted Pressley to prove me wrong, sometimes you get a gut feeling and I don't think his performance the previous season merited a new deal.

I am warming to Beech but he has had to deserve that with the performances of the team and an upturn in results.

Sometimes it is not all about budgets but how a manager sets out and prepares his team, Pressley couldn't do this and although his ideas were great to hear he never implemented them therefore he was just full of hot air.


You know something Munchy lad I just about agree with all of that, I was also desperate for Pressley to do well, not because I thought he was excellent at his job, but because I'm a Carlisle fan, through and through and I just wanted to see somebody do well......anybody!!!!!!!!! And I always think that a manager should be given time, and if I'm honest I also thought 'maybe we should have got rid earlier' and see if somebody new could change things around and get us going in the right direction. However you have to take into account the financial state of the club as well, 1 year contracts, little or no money to spend on players, cuts made everywhere. It doesn't take a genius to recognise that if you pay pea nuts then you get monkeys, we were scraping the bottom of he barrel.
Whether Beech has more money to spend, then I simply don't know, but I do know that the football hes giving us is simpler, players playing in their right positions, no more fannying around at the back, midfielders with a bit of bite, and a never say die attitude, and I always think lower division players are happier in a solid 442 formation, all things that were missing under the Pressley regime.
It may all end in tears, 'who knows' but just at the moment I'm starting to enjoy watching the mighty Blues once again, long may it continue.
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13 Feb 2020 21:56 #69 by thetashkentterror
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Tom wrote: Oi Tash. You’re letting a lot of talk of ‘Premiership’ go recently. Have your standards slipped or have you given up?



Ha, ha, good shout. Probably got lost in Kessler's 8,000 posts.

I've been OCD-ing on 'could of' recently as well.

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13 Feb 2020 22:22 #70 by 09sider
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Pressley appeared to have in his head a way that his team would play before he had signed anyone. Maybe his biggest mistake was not adjusting the playing style to fit the players he had available. Holdsworth might have seen this mindset and restricted the signings to 1 year contracts accordingly.

Hopefully Beech and Holdsworth are both in agreement with on field plans, hence the change in contract length being offered.

Tuesday showed a group of players, playing in their favoured positions and bring able to carry out pre match instructions without having to be reminded every 5 minutes, as it was under Pressley.

The current squad plus 3 or 4 changes over summer should see us pushing for a play off slot.
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13 Feb 2020 23:33 #71 by munchymagic
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thetashkentterror wrote: Just had a look for the gut feeling column in the league table, couldn't find it.


I have duly noted that the term 'gut feeling' irks you somewhat so I must remember never ever to use it again in reply to any of your posts :)
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14 Feb 2020 07:10 #72 by nobbyblue
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Beech is an improvement on Elvis but let's face it you could have got somebody off the street and he couldn't have done much worse! As somebody said he'd set a very low bar.

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14 Feb 2020 08:58 #73 by bluebry
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munchymagic wrote:

thetashkentterror wrote: Just had a look for the gut feeling column in the league table, couldn't find it.


I have duly noted that the term 'gut feeling' irks you somewhat so I must remember never ever to use it again in reply to any of your posts :)


I've a 'gut feeling' you'll adhere to this Munchy.
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15 Feb 2020 14:53 #74 by Wukkie
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I'd just like to point out that there is nowt wrong with Aldi. The same stuff in different packaging.

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15 Feb 2020 15:00 #75 by 09sider
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Wouldn't have mattered how much Pressley had to spend, I'm afraid his tactics and game management would have dragged any ability from them.

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15 Feb 2020 15:53 #76 by melbourneblues
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Wukkie wrote: I'd just like to point out that there is nowt wrong with Aldi. The same stuff in different packaging.


Aldi = the Workington Harrods.

Mullen is a virgin.

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