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30 Apr 2017 02:43 #201 by NORTHERNSOUL
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Armo wrote: Haye is finished but, even if not, is going to need some serious time to sort himself out.

Fury has no business being anywhere near a boxing ring.

Wilder & Parker are the only choices.


Well you cant see Joshua filling Wembley again unless of course that fight involves Fury

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30 Apr 2017 03:36 #202 by Gannadan
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Robbo wrote:

Dancingbear wrote:

Robbo wrote: A j knows he is not top heavy weight , that was apparent tonight .


Who is though? Don't think Wilder or Parker are any better.

You have a point ! But for me realisation set in tonight !


If you don't think AJ is the top man now Robbo, then you must have a fighter in mind who is ? Klit came with his best tonight and they went to war, no excuses needed AJ is perfectly within his rights to lay claim to the throne now, who would beat him ?

King Kong Ortiz ? It would be like the mummy chasing spider man, until he gassed as he tends to do if someone doesn't just stand in front of him, becoming a swinging punch bag for AJ. It's all come to late for Ortiz I'm afraid.

Parker ? Is on the radar but lacks anything like the ability to stop AJ, his talked up speed and power becoming less and less apparent each time the level of his opponents improve, watch how many times he has to hit a tomato can to put him down. AJ is already far and above anything he has yet beaten.

Pulev ? Has a cat like probing style strong and experienced but has a total lack of speed and head movement, his never take a step back I want to land my arsenal approach would mean a slow open available target for AJ to hit and move using his superior feet. It would be a "make me look good" fight for AJ who would slowly lay down the punishment until Pulev was eventually broken.

Deontay ? The biggest danger imo, even though no master in the art of the queensberry rules he would always pose a danger due to the sheer force of his heavy handed windmill like attack. Take his open stance and not the best footwork in the world, couple that with a lack of any real defence other than stumbling out of reach means he is purpose made for AJ's forward marching boxing style. Look at the problems Artur Szpilka caused for Bomber with his constant forward motion, Deontay like AJ doesn't like fighting under pressure off the back foot so this fight would have fireworks as both try to establish dominance. But I think AJ has too many advantages over Wilder, yes wilder can flail and hit hard but AJ can box and hit back with combinations just as hard.

Tyson Fury ? Still in his twenty's and young by today's standards, is not in contention at this time but watch this space. Ricky "the pie and a pint man" Hatton" would relapse between fight's quite badly, but he still managed a half decent career in the game.Tyson also has a lot of official and personal hurdles to surmount before he can realistically talk about a comeback. His desire to be recognised will eventually draw him back in to the fray like a moth to the light.

David Haye nuff said move on.

To sum up there is no one else currently at this level worthy of consideration other than a fight ready Tyson Fury, so via a process of elimination AJ has to be the new king (for now).

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30 Apr 2017 09:50 #203 by Robbo
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In depth analysis ! wilder

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30 Apr 2017 10:50 #204 by Mikercufc
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Loved the fight last night. But, sick of seeing everyone saying he's answered all the questions, stamina, experience etc. For me he has created a lot more.

Rounds 1-4, though Joshua was edging the fight.

Then did his corner tell him to go for it? Yes he knocked him down, but then struggled to move or keep his hands up for 2 rounds. Think vlad let him off and didn't apply enough pressure even though he got a knock down. Joshua then gave himself a few more rounds to get his legs back and went again late on.

I still think the other champions have paper records, wilder has power, but he's been out boxed and outlclassed his last 3 fights but then managed to land a bomb. Bazeale put him on his ass and was dominating the fight till he got caught. Think Joshua is a step ahead in his progress and would beat him early.

Parker, he has only thought unknowns and mostly aussies/New Zealand fighters until he got a shot at the title. Some of them fights went the distance.

I think AJ should perhaps go after Parker next and then Wilder. But would be surprised as said above he will go for another lesser classed fighter in the rankings and carry on his learning.

Joshua has put a lot of muscle on since he turned pro. Is that really needed? More weight in his arms to carry and looks a bit prone to punching himself out if he's not careful.
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30 Apr 2017 12:55 - 30 Apr 2017 12:58 #205 by Blues86
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Im no boxing expert, this is just how i see it -

I reckon both AJ and Wilder will be after Parker as its the easiest fight to get the 4th belt.

Id like to see Parker Vs Wilder with Wilder winning. Sets up WBA/IBF Vs WBC/WBO for the undisputed crown mega fight.

Hopefully AJ would win that and then move onto Fury which would be the biggest British fight of all time. Be great to see.

I can see AJ fighting a few more 'professional opponents' rather than rushing into Wilder or Fury.

David Haye is aging and seemingly well past his best but i wouldn't completely write him off. Id expect to see a rematch with Bellew as the most likely route for him, or this MMA crossover fight if Bellew goes elsewhere. But hes still a massive name and Haye Vs AJ would be a huge fight and create a lot of interest. Not sure AJ would want to fight him though, doesn't do much for him.

Klitscko mentioned a rematch clause and hes defiantly still got it from last nights performance. Not sure the interest would be as much for a rematch and id quite like to see AJ move on from this now. As for Wlad - cant see a better time to bow out at the top than now.
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17 Feb 2018 14:53 - 18 Feb 2018 03:26 #206 by Patterdale Terrier
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Anyone got a FREE stream for the Groves v Eubank Jnr on Itv Boxoffice tonight. Fight Due on about 10pm.
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17 Feb 2018 20:15 #207 by Gannadan
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Decent stream Patterdale enjoy plenty of them about for this one. :)

cricfree.sc/watch/live/chris-eubank-jr-v...cards-live-streaming

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17 Feb 2018 20:44 #208 by nobbyblue
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I fancy Groves.

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17 Feb 2018 21:01 #209 by Gannadan
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I don't think we have many fight fans on here but would like to keep this stuff in one place for easier reference in the future. So feel free to put any fight stuff on here. :)



Fight link.
cricfree.sc/watch/live/chris-eubank-jr-v...cards-live-streaming

This has the makings of a good tear up tonight. Groves an established super middle is favorite over the natural middleweight in Eubank but it's the fight in the dog rather than the dog in the fight I think here. Groves is not lacking in heart or experience and has knockdown power in those hands if he makes contact. Eubank has a very good engine a good chin is faster and will hit with combinations all night. Groves on the other hand has a history of gassing in the later rounds and after seeing him looking emaciated to make weight, worry that he will be even more lacking in stamina than normally would be the case. The one thing you don't want to do is stand in front of Eubank and go toe to toe but unfortunately for Groves, this has to be his best chance of success. He needs to stop Eubank early because as the fight draws on he will start to struggle and Eubank will make him suffer. Eubank is a compact unit with a direct frontal attack which means to get him Groves will have to leave himself open to punishment with his more open style. Look out for the damaging body shots from groves and the viscous uppercuts from Eubank.

My prediction: Eubank will stop him in the late rounds, Regardless of what the majority seem to think.

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17 Feb 2018 21:04 #210 by carlisleunited
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nobbyblue wrote: I fancy Groves.


Ooh, get you! :P

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17 Feb 2018 21:24 #211 by Gannadan
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I will try to provide live links on this thread for all the big fights with big public rather than fight fan interest. If I haven't and you need one just shout out. :)

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17 Feb 2018 21:38 #212 by Dancingbear
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Struggling to get that stupid blue box out of middle of picture. Any tips gents?

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17 Feb 2018 21:44 #213 by Gannadan
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click the bottom left corner of the blue box or go full screen DB.

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17 Feb 2018 21:46 #214 by Dancingbear
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When i click it my antivirus says theres a threat

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17 Feb 2018 21:47 #215 by Dancingbear
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Finally got it to go off after about 10 minutes trying

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17 Feb 2018 21:50 #216 by Gannadan
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It's because the add try's to open up a pop up window when you click on it, do you use fire fox? As I say always better to try these things before the event lol

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17 Feb 2018 21:50 #217 by Gannadan
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Good I'm off to watch ltrs :)

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17 Feb 2018 21:52 #218 by Dancingbear
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Usually firefox but it wouldnt work at all on there so im on explorer

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17 Feb 2018 22:24 #219 by Zebby
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Huge step up for eubank,hope Groves wins

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17 Feb 2018 23:13 #220 by Zebby
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Well that should be a big win for Groves

Eubank terrible technicaly embarrassing at times

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17 Feb 2018 23:24 #221 by Dancingbear
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Eubanks really needs to get a proper corner(wonder if Lee Clark was watching). Good performance by Groves i thought.

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17 Feb 2018 23:37 #222 by Gannadan
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Agree DB Groves did well stuck to the game plan, will be a mark of the man time for Eubank now as to how he responds to this. My brother was there, apparently a huge scale up in the crowd at the round ten mark.

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17 Feb 2018 23:43 #223 by Dancingbear
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Gannadan wrote: Agree DB Groves did well stuck to the game plan, will be a mark of the man time for Eubank now as to how he responds to this. My brother was there, apparently a huge scale up in the crowd at the round ten mark.


Only been to a few in England and there was fighting at all of them. Froch v Direll at Nottingham was pretty scary as it was a 2am start to tie in with US audience and i had to drive home afterwards so hadnt had a pint. Puts me off a bit tbh.

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18 Feb 2018 00:05 #224 by Patterdale Terrier
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I have Kodi, the latest apk's.VPN. I am a bit dubious about these that ask for credit cards with 7-day trial. do you have to sign up to watch that night? Just seems full of other links, add on's to chrome etc.
callum Smith is on ITV box office next Sat. Any recommendations of links

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18 Feb 2018 00:21 - 18 Feb 2018 00:23 #225 by Gannadan
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I got rid of Kodi too much trouble for what I can get with a single click via a browser shortcut. Never sign up to anything or give out your credit card details to anyone. These services are provided free there are only so many streams and these companies' simply gather the links to them, take your money and redirect you to a free stream. Even if you think you are initially getting a good cheap deal online nowadays the auto renewal of these products at full price will be hurtful and just you try to cancel lol.

Callum Smith : Links become available nearer the fight but I will source a decent one for you and post here.

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18 Feb 2018 00:25 #226 by munchymagic
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Gannadan wrote: I got rid of Kodi too much trouble for what I can get with a single click via a browser shortcut. Never sign up to anything or give out your credit card details to anyone. These services are provided free there are only so many streams and these companies' simply gather the links to them, take your money and redirect you to a free stream. Even if you think you are initially getting a good cheap deal online nowadays the auto renewal of these products at full price will be hurtful and just you try to cancel lol.

Callum Smith : Links become available nearer the fight but I will source a decent one for you and post here.


"you think you are initially getting a good cheap deal online nowadays the auto renewal of these products at full price will be hurtful and just you try to cancel lol"

My mate is dead silly and he erm had the same problem with a porn network one time the daft get.
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18 Feb 2018 00:30 #227 by Gannadan
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Lol munchy must have been terrible for you, ahem!:) I mean him.

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18 Feb 2018 00:32 #228 by Patterdale Terrier
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Good man. The link you gave tonight I couldn't get past it asking for card details. Just took me round the houses with links to chrome add ons etc. Finished up with a link off facebook. Thank again.
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18 Feb 2018 00:37 #229 by Gannadan
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Yeah when you click on the token it registers it as a hit and opens a new window to a dodgy ad and then you close it click again repeating the process. You need to break the chain by use of a good popup blocker and ad blocker combination in your add-ons.

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18 Feb 2018 03:28 #230 by CCU
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Have joined tonight’s two Threads together and renamed so all Boxing Stuff can go in here from now on. We did have a Thread a while back but it’ll be too far back to find!

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18 Feb 2018 07:44 #231 by Gannadan
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Does anyone know the bus times to Keswick ?

Oh dear it seems this is the wrong thread, Kim Jong-un, can we merge this with the "nice day" thread please and put it in my name.
Thank you.

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18 Feb 2018 08:15 #232 by Gannadan
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Thanks for the support bud ltrs. :)

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18 Feb 2018 23:29 #233 by CCU
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Tyson Fury walking along Deansgate last night is hilarious!


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24 Feb 2018 20:06 - 24 Feb 2018 20:31 #234 by Gannadan
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This is the Mundo Stream only, gold box marked "CHANNEL 1" ready at fight time. If you want to watch now click the gold box above the video display marked "STREAM 183" , click close and all the little grey X boxes. :)

cricfree.sc/watch/live/world-boxing-super-series-live-streaming

Good quality alternative,
livetv.unblckd.cc/enx/eventinfo/631317_c...31317|878627|13|6|en

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04 Mar 2018 20:00 #235 by Dancingbear
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Just watched Wilder v Ortiz. Is Wilder just a leaner version of Gary Mason?. He certainly cant box. Couldnt see him beating top level boxers on points. Sadly there arent many top level heavyweights about.

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05 Mar 2018 17:53 #236 by Gannadan
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Lol DB Gary Mason that's a blast from the past, Wilder has one asset and if it lands, more often than not it's goodnight Vienna. As boxing skills go he's the equivalent of a fairground boxing booth fighter.

Went pretty much as I expected it would the biggest surprise was that Deontay was ahead on all three cards when the fight ended but that's corruption for you, let's not forget the ref's delay to give Deontay more time to recover when he was dangerously out of it for some time. Ortiz was doing well because he can actually box and was ahead on my card but at 48 (likely his real age) once he reached into the well to get Deontay out of there and failed the fight was technically over. Very similar to AJ v Klit fight AJ's age advantage was telling in his recovery as apposed to Klits.

Deontays stage managed career will end like all the others and at least 20 of his opponents should never have been anywhere near a boxing ring, I think other than the Szpilka fight this has been his only real challenge considering the power he brings to bear. Your right about there not being many about at the moment and having big Tyson back would make for a much more interesting picture.

There isn't really much on the horizon either even though the hype machine has already begun on Daniel Dubois here in the UK. Keep an eye out for Trey Lippe Morrison, Tommy Morrisons boy making his way up the heavyweight rankings 13-0 with 13 KO's and looked devastating in the fights I have watched, that's not hard in the lower levels if you have any potential though.

Remember Danny hammer fisted Brixton Bomber Williams who KO'd MikeTyson in 2004, albeit in the post office pension queue. He is now waxing lyrical about his boy who is preparing his quest to rule the division and if his dad is to be believed is far better than he ever was. The Muricans smart money (not mine) is on Jarrell Miller 20-0-1 18KO's who to me looks like he was dropped right out of a Tim Witherspoon jelly mold. Never ignore the beast from the east in the shape of Romania's Bogdan Dinu 18-0 13KO's reasonable hand speed for a heavyweight no shortage of aggression.

Apologies in advance for rambling. :S

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08 Mar 2018 14:26 #237 by Gannadan
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I may have been a little mean to Bomb Squad above fair do's I admit it but it's an opinion that's gathering pace. Quick read if you like that kind of thing and have two min going begging. :)

http://www.boxingnews24.com/2018/03/deontay-wilder-worst-technically-developed-champion-ever/#more-258554

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08 Mar 2018 14:29 #238 by Gannadan
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Was it the best probably not but worth enjoying again.


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08 Mar 2018 15:15 #239 by Dancingbear
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Gannadan wrote: I may have been a little mean to Bomb Squad above fair do's I admit it but it's an opinion that's gathering pace. Quick read if you like that kind of thing and have two min going begging. :)

http://www.boxingnews24.com/2018/03/deontay-wilder-worst-technically-developed-champion-ever/#more-258554


He basically said he’s a leaner version of Gary Mason ;)

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08 Mar 2018 15:29 #240 by Gannadan
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He did indeed, you sir are a visionary of the noble art. :)

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08 Mar 2018 15:45 #241 by Dancingbear
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Have you ever read any articles by a bloke called Scott Gillfoid? He hates just about every British boxer going.

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08 Mar 2018 16:16 #242 by Gannadan
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Yeah all the time, he's quite clever really. Nobody could write so much clart intentionally, he does it on purpose because it generates action on his threads. Most of the thread is everyone telling him what a censored he is. Good stuff.

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08 Mar 2018 21:20 #243 by Zebby
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Gannadan wrote: Was it the best probably not but worth enjoying again.


Not bad but


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09 Mar 2018 02:12 #244 by Gannadan
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Cheers for that Zebby one of the all time great fights from a golden age. I grew up on this stuff, happy memories. :cheer:

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09 Mar 2018 02:28 #245 by munchymagic
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Lloyd Honeyghan and Bruno got me interested in the sport oh and Barry of course :)

Dennis Andries was my favourite as he was so unassuming and classy.
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09 Mar 2018 02:42 #246 by Gannadan
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I got into it watching Henry Cooper lol seven of us crammed around a black and white TV back in the day, thank god my mum was a huge sports fan. Who could forget the time Honeyghan was so fast out of the corner he was knocking the other guy out on his stool. It's a shame the money men made it a fringe sport and now it seems to be making it's way back to popularity, but with PPV for European level fights and corruption showing it's ugly face I fear the worst.

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09 Mar 2018 03:01 #247 by munchymagic
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Gannadan wrote: I got into it watching Henry Cooper lol seven of us crammed around a black and white TV back in the day, thank god my mum was a huge sports fan. Who could forget the time Honeyghan was so fast out of the corner he was knocking the other guy out on his stool. It's a shame the money men made it a fringe sport and now it seems to be making it's way back to popularity, but with PPV for European level fights and corruption showing it's ugly face I fear the worst.


It is an art isn't it, tried it when I was young but wasn't too good at it, I was better after I got hit to be honest as it brought me to realisation and won more this way as some fighters wondered what to do after they had landed a massive punch and took for granted that they had won.

My youngest lad is doing it at the moment - hope he does better at it than me :)
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09 Mar 2018 03:18 #248 by Gannadan
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I did it in the army, most folk don't realize how hard it is just keep your arms up for three minutes when they weigh a ton. Saying that for most guys inside a minute of starting any fight their body is already totally drained leaving then very vulnerable, if they knew this there would probably be a lot less aggro on the streets. Good that your lads doing it teaches you more than just how to fight there are life lessons in boxing.

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09 Mar 2018 03:27 #249 by munchymagic
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Gannadan wrote: I did it in the army, most folk don't realize how hard it is just keep your arms up for three minutes when they weigh a ton. Saying that for most guys inside a minute of starting any fight their body is already totally drained leaving then very vulnerable, if they knew this there would probably be a lot less aggro on the streets. Good that your lads doing it teaches you more than just how to fight there are life lessons in boxing.


Totally agree, he does it three times a week on top of football, swimming lessons and playing with his mates so I cannot moan when he sits on his ipad as the poor lad is probably knackered :)
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09 Mar 2018 05:51 #250 by carwash
Replied by carwash on topic Wilder v Fury 3

munchymagic wrote:

Gannadan wrote: I did it in the army, most folk don't realize how hard it is just keep your arms up for three minutes when they weigh a ton. Saying that for most guys inside a minute of starting any fight their body is already totally drained leaving then very vulnerable, if they knew this there would probably be a lot less aggro on the streets. Good that your lads doing it teaches you more than just how to fight there are life lessons in boxing.


Totally agree, he does it three times a week on top of football, swimming lessons and playing with his mates so I cannot moan when he sits on his ipad as the poor lad is probably knackered :)


Phew! You're still talking about boxing. You had me worried there munchy!

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