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16 May 2020 12:20 #1 by Drifter
Hi Bumble & all

The wife does some photography as a hobby – some landscapes but mainly animals. As well as spontaneous photos using her phone, she uses a Canon EOS 100D. Quality seems good in my humble no-knowledge opinion.

She’s looking for a new computer type thing for editing the photos and obviously doing the internet. Laptop / tablet / notebook? Being honest neither of us know the difference between laptops and notebooks. She has an old laptop that just does her head in and she always ends up on the (now quite old) desk computer.

Just wondering on your / anyone’s thoughts for a decent quality, quick to use device that she can use on the sofa or kitchen table etc. and type of processor(s).

Any advice would be, as usual from this board, much appreciated.

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16 May 2020 13:23 #2 by Bumble
My grandson started with a Canon EOS 100D, it’s a decent camera and you have plenty of options of different lenses.

I would rule out a tablet, they don’t really give you enough options.
I have a desktop and a Zenbook (which is a laptop as far as I’m concerned).

The idea was I would use the laptop out of the house and the desktop for intricate photoshop using a big screen. I can’t remember the last time I used the desktop, thinking of selling it to honest but I do sometimes use the big screen with the laptop if I need to do something fiddly.

My laptop is only 12”, I wanted it to be very portable with a long battery life so I can use it pitchside. I think it’s about 120g storage, which is more than enough. If I was only going to use it at home I would get bigger, 15” -17” would be a decent size but you can go bigger than that, depending on how much you want to pay.

For many years I was told I should get an applemac laptop, that it was quicker stronger and more intuitive. I finally saved up for one a few years ago and I flipping hated it. I sold it sharpish and bought my asus laptop which was a couple of hundred cheaper. No doubt 10 years ago applemac were ahead, now most folk who use both say there is little to choose between them. I’m certainly happy with my ASUS. I'm on my second one, it's on all day everyday, has coped with being sat on by a footballer who ran off the pitch and does the job for me.

One of the biggest causes of go slow and the machine chugging along without doing much at all is storing too much on the laptop.

My workflow is take photos, process photos, store originals and best photos. I never have more than two matches and try to have less if I can
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I tend to use WD My passport Ultra storage, they are reasonably small but hold a terrabite of photos, so last me around a year.
If you use your laptop just for processing and not for storage I find it works a lot better.
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16 May 2020 17:48 #3 by Drifter
Ah cheers Bumble. I'll pass all that on. much appreciated

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16 May 2020 21:16 #4 by cousinscotty
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When Windows 10 came out - (remember all the palaver about upgrading from Windows 7?) - I went out and bought an iMac with 27" 5k screen. Took a wee while to adjust from the Microsoft way of doing things but once I did, it doesn't half make even my photos look good. Camera-wise, I'm a Panasonic micro four-thirds devotee - smaller than a DSLR and, therefore, less back breaking to carry round with a few lenses. Refuse to pay silly money for Photoshop/Lightroom so I use Pixelmator which is free! Does me fine. Keep all my photos on iCloud otherwise the iMac will just grind to a halt - but also have a backup on WD My Passport.

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16 May 2020 23:13 #5 by orfc
The only way your computer will run slow because of the number of files on it is if you've absolutely rammed it full or you have some sort of automatic file indexing running in the background that runs through the whole contents (it might actually be something your photo editing software does to make thumbnails etc)

Having said that cloud storage is the way to go if only for backup. Look into using 2 though. Bad things are unlikely, but I didn't expect fotopic to go tits up about 10 years ago.

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17 May 2020 09:55 #6 by Bumble
I suppose it depends on how many photos you take. I find using at least 8gb a session soon fills up the machine and it runs much smoother if I keep stored files to a minimum, videos even more so.

If you are taking photos in a batch you really do need something to title and number and inbed information into them. That does take resources but it's essential if you going to sell or even find those photos at a later date.

So it's a balancing act really and for me I want the laptop to process not to store.

I've gone right off cloud at the moment, but would be happy for some one to tell me of a company who doesn't try and rip you off.

Once you start with cloud then you are rather stuck with that company, or it's a hell of a lot of work to move everything.

If you use your internet provider then move on to a cheaper one, you've lost your cloud.

When I found an independant cloud who I thought charged a reasonable fee the price went up to unreasonable very quickly, so I tend to stick with external hardrives where I have control over them.

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17 May 2020 12:31 #7 by NORTHERNSOUL
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Bumble wrote: I suppose it depends on how many photos you take. I find using at least 8gb a session soon fills up the machine and it runs much smoother if I keep stored files to a minimum, videos even more so.

If you are taking photos in a batch you really do need something to title and number and inbed information into them. That does take resources but it's essential if you going to sell or even find those photos at a later date.

So it's a balancing act really and for me I want the laptop to process not to store.

I've gone right off cloud at the moment, but would be happy for some one to tell me of a company who doesn't try and rip you off.

Once you start with cloud then you are rather stuck with that company, or it's a hell of a lot of work to move everything.

If you use your internet provider then move on to a cheaper one, you've lost your cloud.

When I found an independant cloud who I thought charged a reasonable fee the price went up to unreasonable very quickly, so I tend to stick with external hardrives where I have control over them.


For what its worth here's my ten penneth

I have a library of almost a million images in total and over the years have lost more to hard drives breaking or laptops bursting into flames than I have stuff that's been transferred into external store either on a plugin external hard drive or to issues with the cloud where I get my techie guy to copy the new content and load it to four different versions of the cloud [ inc google who i.d say are pretty immune from going bust ] So my policy is the more places you have it stored the less likely you are to lose it.
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17 May 2020 13:28 #8 by Bumble
Yes, totally agree with that.

I also think there's a lot to be said for having a good clear out. It's very easy to keep everything but in reality you just don't need it.

I have dumped literally thousands of photos in the last few weeks, some brought a smile when I saw them and I have kept a few but most are of no use to anyone.

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17 May 2020 13:58 #9 by NORTHERNSOUL
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Bumble wrote: Yes, totally agree with that.

I also think there's a lot to be said for having a good clear out. It's very easy to keep everything but in reality you just don't need it.

I have dumped literally thousands of photos in the last few weeks, some brought a smile when I saw them and I have kept a few but most are of no use to anyone.


I can see why you'd have a good clear out every so often but I think we keep the pics for very different reasons and for me pics I have from 10 years ago have actually become worth more to me nowadays [ particularly given the vast increase in people now embedding their footprint signatures on them ] as they don't require manipulation or resizing before being of use or for sale.

And while we're on the subject I use a tool called Jing from a company called Techsmith who announced before Xmas that they were closing it down and every month that goes by its use becomes harder and harder and I can't see it being around more than a couple of months longer.

Yes, there are alternatives but I .ve not found anything that works as well or is as simple to use so if there is anyone on here that used to use Jing but whos moved on and found somthing else i.d be glad of a pointer as the hassle of it all is doing my head in.
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18 May 2020 10:56 #10 by Kessler

Bumble wrote: I suppose it depends on how many photos you take. I find using at least 8gb a session soon fills up the machine and it runs much smoother if I keep stored files to a minimum, videos even more so.

If you are taking photos in a batch you really do need something to title and number and inbed information into them. That does take resources but it's essential if you going to sell or even find those photos at a later date.

So it's a balancing act really and for me I want the laptop to process not to store.

I've gone right off cloud at the moment, but would be happy for some one to tell me of a company who doesn't try and rip you off.

Once you start with cloud then you are rather stuck with that company, or it's a hell of a lot of work to move everything.

If you use your internet provider then move on to a cheaper one, you've lost your cloud.

When I found an independant cloud who I thought charged a reasonable fee the price went up to unreasonable very quickly, so I tend to stick with external hardrives where I have control over them.


So they quoted you one fee, then massively hiked the price up after you started using the service? What was the name of that provider Bumble, because that's a disgrace and people should avoid them if they do that to customers. Can see why something like that puts you off using the cloud but most providers are up front about their costs and won't change prices on a whim like that. Depends how much space you need but I would generally recommend Google. You get some free storage but you can actually buy more if you need, your about fiver a month for 2 Terabyte cloud and you can buy up to 30 if needed. And as Barry says they probably aren't going to go bust anytime soon so are reliable for long term use.

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18 May 2020 13:01 #11 by Kessler
Barry have a look see if any of these are any use

alternativeto.net/software/jing/

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18 May 2020 13:23 #12 by NORTHERNSOUL
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Kessler wrote: Barry have a look see if any of these are any use

alternativeto.net/software/jing/


Cheers for that Kessler that alternativeto site is very handy I .ve never seen that before.

I.ve already tried a couple of the suggestions and it seems other people have had the same experiences as me

But there's a few more to go at so I.ll, give them a try.

I hadn't realised that Jing being taken down was linked to the Adobe Flash thing which in a way maybe good news as it probably means it will still be available to existing users till Flash finally disappears in December but the annoying bit is I.ll bet the part of Jing that I use [ the bit that copies stills ] doesn't even use Flash.

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18 May 2020 15:23 #13 by Kessler
No problem

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19 May 2020 10:52 #14 by Kessler
What exactly is it you need it for, are you just after anything that can do screenshots?

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