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07 Dec 2017 15:23 - 07 Dec 2017 15:24 #101 by orfc
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Previously on Brexit:

Sir Boris Johnson of Brexitshire: "They can bally well whistle for it, what what, tally ho"


Today:

Boris: "How much do you want Mr Juncker Sir, it's not my money after all"

www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/boris-joh...ain-meeting-11655131
"Britain is meeting the EU "more than halfway" over the Brexit divorce bill, Boris Johnson claimed today."
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07 Dec 2017 15:51 #102 by loser
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What a pathetic, snivelling lot our current government are. Imagine voting for them, just imagine.

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07 Dec 2017 16:20 #103 by Dancingbear
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I really don’t see how May can stay in charge. It’s one fu ck up after another. If she hadn’t called another election she could have had all this sorted now. Still think I was right to vote leave but fu ck me these lot couldn’t do any worse if they’d tried.

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07 Dec 2017 18:25 #104 by Kangshung
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Dancingbear wrote: I really don’t see how May can stay in charge. It’s one fu ck up after another. If she hadn’t called another election she could have had all this sorted now. Still think I was right to vote leave but fu ck me these lot couldn’t do any worse if they’d tried.


She got it wrong by calling the election after invoking article 50. Had she done it the other way around, she'd have secured a majority.

I remain a remoaner. Never thought it would go well, but I can barely believe just how badly our government has handled this. Time for them to get out of the way, and let somebody else clean up their mess - be that Labour, or a different faction within the Tory party.

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07 Dec 2017 19:31 - 07 Dec 2017 19:32 #105 by loser
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Pointless letting another faction of the Tories do it. They're just a pack of f*cking cowards. At least Corbyn has a spine which he's shown by standing up to the press, and Morgan Stanley with their pathetic scaremongering against him last week.

Not like Theresa May who had Dacre over for tea not so long ago, early running scared of the DM. F*cking pathetic. No one could make more of a mess of it than the Tories currently are.

Imagine voting for Brexit and knowing that the Tories were going to be the ones delivering it, just imagine.
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07 Dec 2017 20:47 - 07 Dec 2017 20:47 #106 by Kangshung
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Aye, they're a laughing stock. Too many agendas, too many opposing aims. I'm not convinced they can hold it together until March 2018, let alone March 2019...
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07 Dec 2017 21:14 #107 by CCU
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When I see this kind of Tweet, it makes me glad I voted Leave...


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07 Dec 2017 22:00 #108 by Kangshung
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CCU wrote: When I see this kind of Tweet, it makes me glad I voted Leave...


We'd not allow such nonsense. The veto would be exercised, and others would join us.
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08 Dec 2017 07:49 #109 by CCU
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Looks like things are moving?


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08 Dec 2017 08:54 #110 by carwash
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Does anyone actually understand what deal has been reached? It seems we are leaving the customs union and single market but still aligning ourselves with the EU. We're also allowing EU citizens to remain. Northern Ireland seems to have done very well out of these negotiations.
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08 Dec 2017 09:10 #111 by orfc
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Farage is basically crying and the Daily Mail comments section is awash with rage and vomit, so I'm reckoning we got a deal by nodding yes to everything the eu asked
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08 Dec 2017 09:30 #112 by carwash
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There's been a lot of pressure on the Prime Minister not to damage the UK economy by forcing EU citizens to return home. The threat of Brexit has already cut net EU immigration dramatically. I think we might also see tougher action in the future to deport foreign criminals.

I'm quite optimistic we'll end up out of the European Superstate but still have people to work in the NHS and Costa Coffee.

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08 Dec 2017 10:03 - 08 Dec 2017 10:07 #113 by CCU
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I’m a Leave voter, but I’ve got no problem with anyone who’s moved here, got a job/studies at Uni, pays taxes etc, that’s the way of the world. Plenty Brits do similar around the World!

And it’s perfectly acceptable to me, that these folk will remain here. They moved when it was all above board. And likewise, our citizens around Europe will get the same treatment.

What I did vote for, was that when our tie is cut, we regain control of our Borders, Security, Laws etc, and do things for ourselves. I’ve no problem with any genuine Asylum seeker. The problem is in 99% of cases, there’s no way we’re the first safe haven they’ve reached! The open borders of Europe have seen people movement on an unprecedented scale this century, many unchecked, dangerous people amongst this tide.

This Country has been dragged down and it’s about time it was sorted out. Yes, it’ll take time, yes there’ll be bumps along the way, but it’ll be our Country once again, free from unelected politicians from the likes of Luxembourg making decisions for us.

It’s become almost frowned upon to be Patriotic, to love your Country. Why? What’s wrong with having a bit of pride in your flag and anthem? Boils my piss when folk deem you racist for doing so! Racist? Not likely...

The EU is slowly sinking ship, in years to come, folk will look back and go ‘Britain was right, wish we had’...

Could one of you Remainers spell out the reasons why you think we should stay in the EU? I’m genuinely interested.

Yours,

A senile little Englander!

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08 Dec 2017 10:06 #114 by Laffy
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I think Theresa May deserves some serious credit for at least getting to this point after the level of abuse and vitriol from all sides-I can’t see any going back from here so time to look forward and be positive and ignore the likes of ‘without any purpose’ Nick Clegg and his merry band of remainers.

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08 Dec 2017 10:38 #115 by mojo
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carwash wrote: There's been a lot of pressure on the Prime Minister not to damage the UK economy by forcing EU citizens to return home. The threat of Brexit has already cut net EU immigration dramatically. I think we might also see tougher action in the future to deport foreign criminals.

I'm quite optimistic we'll end up out of the European Superstate but still have people to work in the NHS and Costa Coffee.


wonder what the workshy's excuse will be then when the option of 'coming over here tasking our jobs' is no longer an option as there won't be anyone coming over taking jobs?
maybe force some of them back into employment.
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08 Dec 2017 14:03 #116 by Flatcap
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I wonder how many companies will set up subsidiaries in Ireland (North and/or South) to take advantage of the perforated border between the two.

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08 Dec 2017 14:08 #117 by Armo
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mojo wrote:

carwash wrote: There's been a lot of pressure on the Prime Minister not to damage the UK economy by forcing EU citizens to return home. The threat of Brexit has already cut net EU immigration dramatically. I think we might also see tougher action in the future to deport foreign criminals.

I'm quite optimistic we'll end up out of the European Superstate but still have people to work in the NHS and Costa Coffee.


wonder what the workshy's excuse will be then when the option of 'coming over here tasking our jobs' is no longer an option as there won't be anyone coming over taking jobs?
maybe force some of them back into employment.


Or maybe force employers to pay a living wage?

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08 Dec 2017 14:11 #118 by Armo
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CCU wrote: I’m a Leave voter, but I’ve got no problem with anyone who’s moved here, got a job/studies at Uni, pays taxes etc, that’s the way of the world. Plenty Brits do similar around the World!

And it’s perfectly acceptable to me, that these folk will remain here. They moved when it was all above board. And likewise, our citizens around Europe will get the same treatment.

What I did vote for, was that when our tie is cut, we regain control of our Borders, Security, Laws etc, and do things for ourselves. I’ve no problem with any genuine Asylum seeker. The problem is in 99% of cases, there’s no way we’re the first safe haven they’ve reached! The open borders of Europe have seen people movement on an unprecedented scale this century, many unchecked, dangerous people amongst this tide.

This Country has been dragged down and it’s about time it was sorted out. Yes, it’ll take time, yes there’ll be bumps along the way, but it’ll be our Country once again, free from unelected politicians from the likes of Luxembourg making decisions for us.

It’s become almost frowned upon to be Patriotic, to love your Country. Why? What’s wrong with having a bit of pride in your flag and anthem? Boils my piss when folk deem you racist for doing so! Racist? Not likely...

The EU is slowly sinking ship, in years to come, folk will look back and go ‘Britain was right, wish we had’...

Could one of you Remainers spell out the reasons why you think we should stay in the EU? I’m genuinely interested.

Yours,

A senile little Englander!


Bit unfair on the likes of Greece and Italy where 99% of Asylum Seekers land no? It's not exactly like they're not struggling anyway.

Should of been % based worked out on population density and GDP (who's got the space and can afford it gets the most).

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08 Dec 2017 14:24 - 08 Dec 2017 14:24 #119 by CCU
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Armo wrote: Bit unfair on the likes of Greece and Italy where 99% of Asylum Seekers land no? It's not exactly like they're not struggling anyway.

Should of been % based worked out on population density and GDP (who's got the space and can afford it gets the most).


That’s why I said ‘genuine’. The TV images of working age young males with mobile phones pouring off boats were anything but asylum seekers!

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08 Dec 2017 15:01 #120 by Armo
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No, you said it was because we weren't their first safe haven.

Eligibility is a different argument entirely.

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08 Dec 2017 15:25 #121 by High Street
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I’m pretty much of the same opinion as CCU. I voted leave, purely for the political connotations, not to repatriate Johnny Foreigner. I’d still rather we paid them piss all after we leave,although l recognise that the budgets are upto 2020 and may involve some stuff in the UK.
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08 Dec 2017 15:33 #122 by CCU
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Agreed, I have no problem with having to pay out for stuff we’re already signed up to, projects etc, indeed some may be for a few years. We signed for them, we’ll pay our due.

I do however object to figures plucked up to cover the shortfall that will be created by our leaving.

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08 Dec 2017 15:36 - 08 Dec 2017 15:36 #123 by CCU
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Armo wrote: No, you said it was because we weren't their first safe haven.

Eligibility is a different argument entirely.


They go hand in hand for me...

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08 Dec 2017 15:58 #124 by thesilentone
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Jeeze, it's not only Whitehall that is full of Liberal, back stabbing, pro-European wets.

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08 Dec 2017 16:16 #125 by howoldboy
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thesilentone wrote: Jeeze, it's not only Whitehall that is full of Liberal, back stabbing, pro-European wets.


I think you'll find that Michael Gove is Conservative and a Brexiteer.

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08 Dec 2017 17:04 #126 by Alan
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Alan wrote: you've got to also mention the treasurys assessment that over 800,000 jobs would be lost simply on a leave victory which never happened.


That was on leaving the EU, which we err... haven't actually left yet, hence all these talks and that



Keep posting pal one day you will get something correct .

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.c...-referendum-job-loss

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08 Dec 2017 20:57 #127 by orfc
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Alan wrote:

orfc wrote:

Alan wrote: you've got to also mention the treasurys assessment that over 800,000 jobs would be lost simply on a leave victory which never happened.


That was on leaving the EU, which we err... haven't actually left yet, hence all these talks and that



Keep posting pal one day you will get something correct .

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.c...-referendum-job-loss


I have got it correct then, that article says 800,000 jobs lost following a leave vote, not 'immediately after' :-D

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08 Dec 2017 21:05 #128 by Markovitch
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Bear in mind while you are trying to have an intelligent conversation that it's Alan you are talking to. The man who brought turnips into a conversation about art

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08 Dec 2017 21:48 #129 by Alan
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Markovitch wrote: Bear in mind while you are trying to have an intelligent conversation that it's Alan you are talking to. The man who brought turnips into a conversation about art


I've certainly got you rattled you're even posting about me from your German base on a Friday night thanks for the attention is really flattering.

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09 Dec 2017 07:36 #130 by Kangshung
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thesilentone wrote: Jeeze, it's not only Whitehall that is full of Liberal, back stabbing, pro-European wets.


What i cant [censored] stand is brexiteers crying about being called 'thick' and 'racist', whilst having the nerve to label remainers as traitors, back stabbers etc etc.

Go sit on a Javelin.

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09 Dec 2017 08:09 #131 by Dancingbear
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Kangshung wrote:

thesilentone wrote: Jeeze, it's not only Whitehall that is full of Liberal, back stabbing, pro-European wets.


What i cant [censored] stand is brexiteers crying about being called 'thick' and 'racist', whilst having the nerve to label remainers as traitors, back stabbers etc etc.

Go sit on a Javelin.


See what I don’t get is there was a vote with two options on it. I voted for one option other people voted for the other one. I don’t think since that day I’ve felt the need to call anyone a remoaner or a Brexiteer. What’s the point? The country voted the shit house priminister legged it and we’ve been left with a complete fiasco. If anyone’s to blame its Mr Cameron. As I’ve said before at least Milliband had the conviction to stick to his guns and say he wouldn’t have offered it.

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09 Dec 2017 08:27 #132 by carwash
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Ironically I think we are going to end up with a Goldilocks Brexit which is not too hard and not too soft which satisfies the average voter. EU migrants will be made to feel less welcome but we'll still have enough of them to do the jobs Brits don't fancy doing like picking vegetables or jobs at the minimum wage. We'll avoid being part of the European club but we'll hammer out a trade deal so that imports and exports carry on as before provided we meet the EU quality standards. I suspect it will only be at the fringes where we notice much difference but I think most people will accept it as the best outcome in the circumstances.
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09 Dec 2017 08:53 #133 by Kangshung
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Dancingbear wrote:

Kangshung wrote:

thesilentone wrote: Jeeze, it's not only Whitehall that is full of Liberal, back stabbing, pro-European wets.


What i cant [censored] stand is brexiteers crying about being called 'thick' and 'racist', whilst having the nerve to label remainers as traitors, back stabbers etc etc.

Go sit on a Javelin.


See what I don’t get is there was a vote with two options on it. I voted for one option other people voted for the other one. I don’t think since that day I’ve felt the need to call anyone a remoaner or a Brexiteer. What’s the point? The country voted the shit house priminister legged it and we’ve been left with a complete fiasco. If anyone’s to blame its Mr Cameron. As I’ve said before at least Milliband had the conviction to stick to his guns and say he wouldn’t have offered it.


Totally agree with this, with the exception that I don't see 'Brexiteer' as an insult. Wasn't the term coined by the leave side, to give them a romantic appeal? In my mind, it is the equivalent of 'remainer' - as opposed to 'remoaner', which is vlearly intended in a derogatory fashion. Perhaps I'm the only one who sees it this way, in which case I will stop using the term.

I have no problem with the referendum being held, my gripe with Cameron and co is the failure to put contingency plans in place for the event of a vote to leave.

We've spent a year and a half making ourselves look like a banana republic, only to capitulate to the demands of the EU at the 11th hour. We should be so much further on by now.

I dread to think how much of a mess our 'leaders' will make of future trade negotiations - not just with the EU, but with economic superpowers like the Americand and Japanese...
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09 Dec 2017 09:50 #134 by seesaw50
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carwash wrote: There's been a lot of pressure on the Prime Minister not to damage the UK economy by forcing EU citizens to return home. The threat of Brexit has already cut net EU immigration dramatically. I think we might also see tougher action in the future to deport foreign criminals.

I'm quite optimistic we'll end up out of the European Superstate but still have people to work in the NHS and Costa Coffee.


No mention of a halt date to EU nationals coming to the UK I note.....the transition is gonna take years

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09 Dec 2017 10:06 #135 by seesaw50
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CCU wrote:

Armo wrote: Bit unfair on the likes of Greece and Italy where 99% of Asylum Seekers land no? It's not exactly like they're not struggling anyway.

Should of been % based worked out on population density and GDP (who's got the space and can afford it gets the most).


That’s why I said ‘genuine’. The TV images of working age young males with mobile phones pouring off boats were anything but asylum seekers!


Your point about allowing migrants to travel freely unchecked through the EU is down to the EU to sort out.

The "free movement of people " ONLY applies to EU Nationals moving between EU member states.

The reasons why some EU states just wave them through is basically the same as why we voted to stem the flow of EU people coming here.......they don't want them! They don't want the demographic of their country changed into something they don't recognise as the country of their birth!

What this government needs to get a handle on next is immigration from outside the EU ...something they should have been doing for years.

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09 Dec 2017 10:10 #136 by Dancingbear
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Exactly. That’s something the Tory government said they would correct in 2010 and have done nothing about it. Blair opened the doors and put the welcome mat down but May as Home Secretary and now PM has done very little to pick it back up again.

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09 Dec 2017 10:38 #137 by BlueAl
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The Czech Republic, Poland and Hungary are being taken to court by the EU, their crime? Refusing to take their share of immigrants as instructed! All proud sovereign nations who stand up for their people and cultures.

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09 Dec 2017 11:14 #138 by Kangshung
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carwash wrote: Ironically I think we are going to end up with a Goldilocks Brexit which is not too hard and not too soft which satisfies the average voter. EU migrants will be made to feel less welcome but we'll still have enough of them to do the jobs Brits don't fancy doing like picking vegetables or jobs at the minimum wage. We'll avoid being part of the European club but we'll hammer out a trade deal so that imports and exports carry on as before provided we meet the EU quality standards. I suspect it will only be at the fringes where we notice much difference but I think most people will accept it as the best outcome in the circumstances.


You may well be right. It won't please hardline leave voters, nor fanatical eurofiles... but to the 'silent majority' it may seem a decent outcome.

Of course, it could still end up falling through. I dont think a 'hard' exit is impossible yet.

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09 Dec 2017 14:03 #139 by munchymagic
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It was always going to be difficult to exit the EU because of all of the red tape but what amuses me is that whilst they sort this out you still have remainers wanting another referendum because they haven't sorted it out sooner :D

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09 Dec 2017 14:12 #140 by Laffy
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I’m pretty relaxed after the work and result achieved this week-the money was always going to be the hard part in my view.Like any divorce.

In contrast,both sides need a trade deal for all the reasons trailed-Basically we import more than export.On this basis, I think ,and I’m in the minority, that the trade deal will be easier.

In 5 years time we will be seen as a safe haven like the Swiss.Our currency might actually be too strong then

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09 Dec 2017 15:44 - 09 Dec 2017 16:19 #141 by NORTHERNSOUL
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mojo wrote:

carwash wrote: There's been a lot of pressure on the Prime Minister not to damage the UK economy by forcing EU citizens to return home. The threat of Brexit has already cut net EU immigration dramatically. I think we might also see tougher action in the future to deport foreign criminals.

I'm quite optimistic we'll end up out of the European Superstate but still have people to work in the NHS and Costa Coffee.


wonder what the workshy's excuse will be then when the option of 'coming over here tasking our jobs' is no longer an option as there won't be anyone coming over taking jobs?
maybe force some of them back into employment.


I would imagine when the ability to employ foreigners to drive down the wage rates and working conditioners of British People are taken away from the likes of Costa Coffee and Starbucks and they start paying 10 quid an hour with nice 40 hour contracts and employ British managers who are capable of employing and assigning the right number of staff at the right time most of what you describe as workshy will be quite happy to take up these jobs or do you agree that charging 3 quid for a cup of fu.cking coffee and paying staff the minimum they can on the crappiest contracts they can invent is a company we should all admire ?

And maybe if you look at what you call the workshy claiming JSA you.ll find they simply arent there they left that years ago to run there own scams on the internet and do a bit of cash in hand work if they have too since this govmt disbanded and defunded any efforts to disuade people from doing so. The vast majority on JSA now are people who should be on ESA but who have been directed elsewhere just to save the government a few extra quid and to make the lives of people they dont give a fu.ck about even harder than it needs to be.

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09 Dec 2017 16:03 #142 by NORTHERNSOUL
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Armo wrote:

CCU wrote: I’m a Leave voter, but I’ve got no problem with anyone who’s moved here, got a job/studies at Uni, pays taxes etc, that’s the way of the world. Plenty Brits do similar around the World!

And it’s perfectly acceptable to me, that these folk will remain here. They moved when it was all above board. And likewise, our citizens around Europe will get the same treatment.

What I did vote for, was that when our tie is cut, we regain control of our Borders, Security, Laws etc, and do things for ourselves. I’ve no problem with any genuine Asylum seeker. The problem is in 99% of cases, there’s no way we’re the first safe haven they’ve reached! The open borders of Europe have seen people movement on an unprecedented scale this century, many unchecked, dangerous people amongst this tide.

This Country has been dragged down and it’s about time it was sorted out. Yes, it’ll take time, yes there’ll be bumps along the way, but it’ll be our Country once again, free from unelected politicians from the likes of Luxembourg making decisions for us.

It’s become almost frowned upon to be Patriotic, to love your Country. Why? What’s wrong with having a bit of pride in your flag and anthem? Boils my piss when folk deem you racist for doing so! Racist? Not likely...

The EU is slowly sinking ship, in years to come, folk will look back and go ‘Britain was right, wish we had’...

Could one of you Remainers spell out the reasons why you think we should stay in the EU? I’m genuinely interested.

Yours,

A senile little Englander!


Bit unfair on the likes of Greece and Italy where 99% of Asylum Seekers land no? It's not exactly like they're not struggling anyway.

Should of been % based worked out on population density and GDP (who's got the space and can afford it gets the most).



Or better still just bung them back onto a fu.cking boat to where they came from

Simple as job done

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09 Dec 2017 16:08 #143 by NORTHERNSOUL
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High Street wrote: I’m pretty much of the same opinion as CCU. I voted leave, purely for the political connotations, not to repatriate Johnny Foreigner. I’d still rather we paid them piss all after we leave,although l recognise that the budgets are upto 2020 and may involve some stuff in the UK.


And if were being stupid enough to pay them anything i hope well be keeping a close watch that the amount coming back in grants etc doesn't drop by a single penny until the day that we leave.

" if the old git stepped out in front of my car i wouldnt be looking for the brakes thats for sure "

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09 Dec 2017 16:15 #144 by NORTHERNSOUL
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seesaw50 wrote:

carwash wrote: There's been a lot of pressure on the Prime Minister not to damage the UK economy by forcing EU citizens to return home. The threat of Brexit has already cut net EU immigration dramatically. I think we might also see tougher action in the future to deport foreign criminals.

I'm quite optimistic we'll end up out of the European Superstate but still have people to work in the NHS and Costa Coffee.


No mention of a halt date to EU nationals coming to the UK I note.....the transition is gonna take years



They dont really need to the foreign fuk.kers are starting to get the message that we don't want them here now and staying at home

" if the old git stepped out in front of my car i wouldnt be looking for the brakes thats for sure "

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09 Dec 2017 16:21 #145 by Kangshung
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Laffy wrote: I’m pretty relaxed after the work and result achieved this week-the money was always going to be the hard part in my view.Like any divorce.

In contrast,both sides need a trade deal for all the reasons trailed-Basically we import more than export.On this basis, I think ,and I’m in the minority, that the trade deal will be easier.

In 5 years time we will be seen as a safe haven like the Swiss.Our currency might actually be too strong then


Your confidence in Sterling is impressive, I hope you prove to be right.

Completely agree that the trade deal should be easier than Brexit itself, providing the EU don't try to force freedom of movement into the text ;)

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09 Dec 2017 17:32 #146 by Markovitch
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Laffy wrote: I’m pretty relaxed after the work and result achieved this week-the money was always going to be the hard part in my view.Like any divorce.

In contrast,both sides need a trade deal for all the reasons trailed-Basically we import more than export.On this basis, I think ,and I’m in the minority, that the trade deal will be easier.

In 5 years time we will be seen as a safe haven like the Swiss.Our currency might actually be too strong then



The chat from the eu people here in Munich is that the trade deal has already been outlined and it will remain as tariff free. The sting is that we will continue to pay our subs to be part of the free trade agreement but the amount of money coming back will be severely restricted as we will only be a partner nation. As for immigration it will simply remain as before. We are not a member of schengen so I haven't noticed it ranks highly with eu negotiating teams

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09 Dec 2017 18:19 #147 by Laffy
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Basically what Cameron was asking for....!

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09 Dec 2017 18:20 - 09 Dec 2017 18:23 #148 by NORTHERNSOUL
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Markovitch wrote:

Laffy wrote: I’m pretty relaxed after the work and result achieved this week-the money was always going to be the hard part in my view.Like any divorce.

In contrast,both sides need a trade deal for all the reasons trailed-Basically we import more than export.On this basis, I think ,and I’m in the minority, that the trade deal will be easier.

In 5 years time we will be seen as a safe haven like the Swiss.Our currency might actually be too strong then



The chat from the eu people here in Munich is that the trade deal has already been outlined and it will remain as tariff free. The sting is that we will continue to pay our subs to be part of the free trade agreement but the amount of money coming back will be severely restricted as we will only be a partner nation. As for immigration it will simply remain as before. We are not a member of schengen so I haven't noticed it ranks highly with eu negotiating teams


Well if thats the case we should just walk away now and write the 60 billion cheque straight to the NHS Because that is not what I and millions of other people voted for.

Then admit theyve failed totally and top themselves and give the country the best christmas present ever

" if the old git stepped out in front of my car i wouldnt be looking for the brakes thats for sure "
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09 Dec 2017 18:40 #149 by Kangshung
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Laffy wrote: Basically what Cameron was asking for....!


Aye, just without the ability to influence EU policies, or veto unfavourable legislation.

Still, it's much less of a gamble. Can't see it uniting either the government or the nation though...

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09 Dec 2017 22:05 #150 by harraby exile
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You are mixing up the European Court of Justce with the European Court of Human Rights. Brexit will have no effect on the UK's relationship with the latter. In fact it is reported today that the UK Human Rights Commission is mounting its own inquiry into Grenfell,examining in particular the Government 's obligation to protect the lives of its citizens. Such an investigation could in theory lead to further action in the ECHR.
Of more interest, I was sorry to see that the lads did not hang on to the lead at Newport today.

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