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05 Dec 2018 13:31 #1101 by thesilentone
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Jezza seems to have forgotten who put us in austerity in the fist place.

What did the departing Labour Government letter say, was it:

‘I’m afraid there is no money.’

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05 Dec 2018 13:39 - 05 Dec 2018 13:41 #1102 by thesilentone
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If things are really tough, you could always get a Foodbank Franchise:

"What we offer

When you join The Trussell Trust Foodbank Network, we will provide:

Full training
An operating manual
Ongoing support from national staff team and an Area Manager
Template website tailored to your foodbank with your own content management system
Branding artwork (including leaflets, banners, etc.)
An online forum
Data Collection System
Annual audits and quality assurance process
Corporate relationships – discounts and services (e.g. many Trussell Trust foodbanks are able to hold supermarket collections in local Tesco stores and receive a cash ‘top-up’ on what is donated)
National and regional conferences
Foodbanks are asked to make a contribution of £1,500 during the first year of the foodbank development and £360 each consecutive year. This contribution helps towards the costs of delivering the many services to foodbanks.

Last year, we provided foodbanks in The Trussell Trust network with £1.3 million of funding through our national partnerships and financial grants."

Work your way up the tree, and there is a £80k salary waiting...
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05 Dec 2018 15:57 #1103 by deeksme
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thesilentone wrote: If things are really tough, you could always get a Foodbank Franchise:

"What we offer

When you join The Trussell Trust Foodbank Network, we will provide:

Full training
An operating manual
Ongoing support from national staff team and an Area Manager
Template website tailored to your foodbank with your own content management system
Branding artwork (including leaflets, banners, etc.)
An online forum
Data Collection System
Annual audits and quality assurance process
Corporate relationships – discounts and services (e.g. many Trussell Trust foodbanks are able to hold supermarket collections in local Tesco stores and receive a cash ‘top-up’ on what is donated)
National and regional conferences
Foodbanks are asked to make a contribution of £1,500 during the first year of the foodbank development and £360 each consecutive year. This contribution helps towards the costs of delivering the many services to foodbanks.

Last year, we provided foodbanks in The Trussell Trust network with £1.3 million of funding through our national partnerships and financial grants."

Work your way up the tree, and there is a £80k salary waiting...


Maybe you could go for it?
What is your line of work thesilentone?

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05 Dec 2018 16:24 #1104 by sirjimmyglass
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thesilentone wrote: Jezza seems to have forgotten who put us in austerity in the fist place.

What did the departing Labour Government letter say, was it:

‘I’m afraid there is no money.’


Hahaha as if you don't pull that little piece of ammunition out every time the Tory government makes themselves look a shambles.

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05 Dec 2018 18:09 #1105 by Markovitch
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We've been in power for 8 years, we have failed by every measure economic indicator, David Cameron was called the worst British Prime Minister ever by Obama, child mortality is rising, wages have fallen by over 10% but either Clegg or Corbyn is to blame. Pathetic. Systematic failure as a culture excused by a tax dodging media
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05 Dec 2018 21:21 #1106 by cufcmike
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Not sure if John Sheridan would get away with blaming Greg Abbott for our disappointing form, seeing as Greg was the man in charge 8 years ago...

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05 Dec 2018 21:30 #1107 by shaldon1
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Trust all are aware in Carlisle that the MP Stevenson voted with Dominique Grieve on the amendment to destroy a no dealWHY WHY WHY?

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05 Dec 2018 21:38 #1108 by ExiledJock
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Because if you look on his Twitter, he's been a long time supporter of a 'Norwegian-style' solution. If you disagree with his approach, you can vote for someone else at the next election.
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05 Dec 2018 22:09 #1109 by CCU
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All MP’s should only be voting based on how their respective constituencies voted in the EU Referendum.

The people aren’t interested in their personal opinion, merely that they carry out the instruction of their electorate.

This is another thing that has long been lost in this entire kerfuffle...

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05 Dec 2018 22:34 #1110 by Taffy-P
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CCU wrote: All MP’s should only be voting based on how their respective constituencies voted in the EU Referendum.

The people aren’t interested in their personal opinion, merely that they carry out the instruction of their electorate.

This is another thing that has long been lost in this entire kerfuffle...

so what you are saying is Jacob Ress Mogg should vote to remain as his constituents voted to remain!!!!!!! I disagree with mr Stevensons politics but to be fair he doesn’t want to see his constituents worse off so on this issue I agree entirely with him

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05 Dec 2018 22:46 - 05 Dec 2018 23:20 #1111 by CCU
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Taffy-P wrote:

CCU wrote: All MP’s should only be voting based on how their respective constituencies voted in the EU Referendum.

The people aren’t interested in their personal opinion, merely that they carry out the instruction of their electorate.

This is another thing that has long been lost in this entire kerfuffle...

so what you are saying is Jacob Ress Mogg should vote to remain as his constituents voted to remain!!!!!!! I disagree with mr Stevensons politics but to be fair he doesn’t want to see his constituents worse off so on this issue I agree entirely with him


He’d be fine, over two thirds of Constitencies are estimated to have voted Leave in 2016 anyways.

Ridiculous they’re voting in the House anyways. They asked the public who responded with a Leave mandate. All the fuss since has taken away from this...

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06 Dec 2018 07:00 #1112 by OsloBlue
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But the referendum didn't specify how we should leave. If leaving was all that mattered then the Gov would choose to leave "Norway style" as there would surely be a majority in the commons to do so.

The fact that the referendum question did not specify how to leave, and that the leave campaign promised everything under the sun, has contributed as much to the mess if not more than the "remoaners" have

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06 Dec 2018 07:32 #1113 by CCU
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Do you enjoy ‘Norway Style’ Osloblue?

In a lifestyle way, not political...

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06 Dec 2018 07:53 #1114 by BlueAl
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OsloBlue wrote: But the referendum didn't specify how we should leave. If leaving was all that mattered then the Gov would choose to leave "Norway style" as there would surely be a majority in the commons to do so.

The fact that the referendum question did not specify how to leave, and that the leave campaign promised everything under the sun, has contributed as much to the mess if not more than the "remoaners" have


The whole establishment lined up to tell us the sky would fall in if we left. The government even wasted taxpayers money on a leaflet drop to every home in the UK. Shame you found the wording on the ballot paper challenging, most leavers knew exactly what they were voting for.

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06 Dec 2018 08:13 #1115 by OsloBlue
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CCU wrote: Do you enjoy ‘Norway Style’ Osloblue?

In a lifestyle way, not political...


Yes I am thanks. Excellent work/life balance over here, friendly people. Oslo is a good city to live in, big enough to offer what you'd expect from a city but is not too crowded and the forests are only a tube ride away. Moved here from London and it feels more like "England", or at least the North, over here than it did down there.

Downsides: Its minus 5 outside right now. Will be dark by 3pm today. Ten quid a pint.
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06 Dec 2018 08:19 #1116 by OsloBlue
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BlueAl wrote:

OsloBlue wrote: But the referendum didn't specify how we should leave. If leaving was all that mattered then the Gov would choose to leave "Norway style" as there would surely be a majority in the commons to do so.

The fact that the referendum question did not specify how to leave, and that the leave campaign promised everything under the sun, has contributed as much to the mess if not more than the "remoaners" have


The whole establishment lined up to tell us the sky would fall in if we left. The government even wasted taxpayers money on a leaflet drop to every home in the UK. Shame you found the wording on the ballot paper challenging, most leavers knew exactly what they were voting for.


And they're still saying the sky will fall in.

Given that it was quite a thin margin of victory of leave in 2016, if only "most" leave voters knew what they were voting for then thats the strongest argument yet for a second referendum... *




*Not that I personally necessarily think that is a good idea, before one of the angry squad on here has a go.

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06 Dec 2018 09:04 #1117 by CCU
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OsloBlue wrote:

CCU wrote: Do you enjoy ‘Norway Style’ Osloblue?

In a lifestyle way, not political...


Yes I am thanks. Excellent work/life balance over here, friendly people. Oslo is a good city to live in, big enough to offer what you'd expect from a city but is not too crowded and the forests are only a tube ride away. Moved here from London and it feels more like "England", or at least the North, over here than it did down there.

Downsides: Its minus 5 outside right now. Will be dark by 3pm today. Ten quid a pint.


I hope the Smorgasbord’s have been kind to you...

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06 Dec 2018 09:07 #1118 by CCU
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If ever there was a deliberate placing of a vote...


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06 Dec 2018 09:28 #1119 by OsloBlue
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CCU wrote:

OsloBlue wrote:

CCU wrote: Do you enjoy ‘Norway Style’ Osloblue?

In a lifestyle way, not political...


Yes I am thanks. Excellent work/life balance over here, friendly people. Oslo is a good city to live in, big enough to offer what you'd expect from a city but is not too crowded and the forests are only a tube ride away. Moved here from London and it feels more like "England", or at least the North, over here than it did down there.

Downsides: Its minus 5 outside right now. Will be dark by 3pm today. Ten quid a pint.


I hope the Smorgasbord’s have been kind to you...


Meet up with Jonny Blom to have one every third Tuesday. Absolutely herrings mad he is
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06 Dec 2018 17:34 - 06 Dec 2018 18:35 #1120 by Alan
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So in summary
Career politicians backed by the elite are sticking two fingers up to what 52% of the people who voted wanted as they deem themselves to know what's best for us uneducated scummers who voted leave.


Edit to add.

I'll leave this blatant lie here too


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07 Dec 2018 02:33 #1121 by cufcmike
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Alan wrote: So in summary
Career politicians backed by the elite are sticking two fingers up to what 52% of the people who voted wanted as they deem themselves to know what's best for us uneducated scummers who voted leave.


Edit to add.

I'll leave this blatant lie here too



You can't try and pretend the likes of Nigel Farage, Boris Johnson and Jacob Rees Mogg are anything other than "the elite" though... I do get your point mind, the likes of Cameron and Osbourne insisting we remain almost had me voting leave.

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07 Dec 2018 07:18 #1122 by Alan
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cufcmike wrote:

Alan wrote: So in summary
Career politicians backed by the elite are sticking two fingers up to what 52% of the people who voted wanted as they deem themselves to know what's best for us uneducated scummers who voted leave.


Edit to add.

I'll leave this blatant lie here too



You can't try and pretend the likes of Nigel Farage, Boris Johnson and Jacob Rees Mogg are anything other than "the elite" though... I do get your point mind, the likes of Cameron and Osbourne insisting we remain almost had me voting leave.




Yep they are elitists in thier own right but they are still a tiny minority compared to those who back remain.
I personally voted to leave with no strings a complete break from Europe Im not daft enough to think this will happen now it won't be allowed my gut feeling is there will be now a second ref and then a third ala Ireland untill we get a result that remainers want.

Pretty Sad that such a huge turn out for our referendum and result hasn't been honored and carried out in the way it should have been.

I pretty much had it with politics tbh.
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07 Dec 2018 07:37 #1123 by High Street
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Sadly, my greatest fear for a while now, is that we end up remaining with Corbyn as PM.
That would be a disaster.

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07 Dec 2018 11:21 #1124 by CookieThumper
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Alan wrote: So in summary
Career politicians backed by the elite are sticking two fingers up to what 52% of the people who voted wanted as they deem themselves to know what's best for us uneducated scummers who voted leave.


Edit to add.

I'll leave this blatant lie here too



If we are going to start posting videos of politicians and campaigners lying before the vote we will pass the website's bandwidth allowance.

Oh look, here's another...


You say "career politicians backed by the elite" as if Boris Johnson isn't both a career politician and the elite.

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07 Dec 2018 11:35 #1125 by cufcmike
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Alan wrote:

cufcmike wrote:

Alan wrote: So in summary
Career politicians backed by the elite are sticking two fingers up to what 52% of the people who voted wanted as they deem themselves to know what's best for us uneducated scummers who voted leave.


Edit to add.

I'll leave this blatant lie here too



You can't try and pretend the likes of Nigel Farage, Boris Johnson and Jacob Rees Mogg are anything other than "the elite" though... I do get your point mind, the likes of Cameron and Osbourne insisting we remain almost had me voting leave.




Yep they are elitists in thier own right but they are still a tiny minority compared to those who back remain.
I personally voted to leave with no strings a complete break from Europe Im not daft enough to think this will happen now it won't be allowed my gut feeling is there will be now a second ref and then a third ala Ireland untill we get a result that remainers want.

Pretty Sad that such a huge turn out for our referendum and result hasn't been honored and carried out in the way it should have been.

I pretty much had it with politics tbh.


But this is the thing. While that is the leave that you voted for, I know Leave Voters who voted for a Norway/Switzerland type deal. Whatever the outcome from Brexit, it will always please some people, but not everybody. Although it seems Mrs May's deal will literally please nobody.

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07 Dec 2018 13:00 #1126 by Dancingbear
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cufcmike wrote:

Alan wrote:

cufcmike wrote:

Alan wrote: So in summary
Career politicians backed by the elite are sticking two fingers up to what 52% of the people who voted wanted as they deem themselves to know what's best for us uneducated scummers who voted leave.


Edit to add.

I'll leave this blatant lie here too



You can't try and pretend the likes of Nigel Farage, Boris Johnson and Jacob Rees Mogg are anything other than "the elite" though... I do get your point mind, the likes of Cameron and Osbourne insisting we remain almost had me voting leave.




Yep they are elitists in thier own right but they are still a tiny minority compared to those who back remain.
I personally voted to leave with no strings a complete break from Europe Im not daft enough to think this will happen now it won't be allowed my gut feeling is there will be now a second ref and then a third ala Ireland untill we get a result that remainers want.

Pretty Sad that such a huge turn out for our referendum and result hasn't been honored and carried out in the way it should have been.

I pretty much had it with politics tbh.


But this is the thing. While that is the leave that you voted for, I know Leave Voters who voted for a Norway/Switzerland type deal. Whatever the outcome from Brexit, it will always please some people, but not everybody. Although it seems Mrs May's deal will literally please nobody.


I must have missed the Norway/Switzerland check box on my voting slip.

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07 Dec 2018 13:13 #1127 by cufcmike
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Dancingbear wrote:

cufcmike wrote:

Alan wrote:

cufcmike wrote:

Alan wrote: So in summary
Career politicians backed by the elite are sticking two fingers up to what 52% of the people who voted wanted as they deem themselves to know what's best for us uneducated scummers who voted leave.


Edit to add.

I'll leave this blatant lie here too



You can't try and pretend the likes of Nigel Farage, Boris Johnson and Jacob Rees Mogg are anything other than "the elite" though... I do get your point mind, the likes of Cameron and Osbourne insisting we remain almost had me voting leave.




Yep they are elitists in thier own right but they are still a tiny minority compared to those who back remain.
I personally voted to leave with no strings a complete break from Europe Im not daft enough to think this will happen now it won't be allowed my gut feeling is there will be now a second ref and then a third ala Ireland untill we get a result that remainers want.

Pretty Sad that such a huge turn out for our referendum and result hasn't been honored and carried out in the way it should have been.

I pretty much had it with politics tbh.


But this is the thing. While that is the leave that you voted for, I know Leave Voters who voted for a Norway/Switzerland type deal. Whatever the outcome from Brexit, it will always please some people, but not everybody. Although it seems Mrs May's deal will literally please nobody.


I must have missed the Norway/Switzerland check box on my voting slip.


Exactly. Not everyone who voted leave voted for the exact same type of leave. People will say "out means out" well a Norway type deal will still have us out. We will no longer be members of the EU, which was what the question was on the ballot, no?
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07 Dec 2018 14:25 #1128 by OsloBlue
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Exactly Mike.

This is the problem when you have a leave campaign that promises everything under the sun. Different people latch on to different promises, forget the others, then except their own version of Brexit to be delivered.

Best example on here is Crackpot Soul who got told that Brexit would involve putting Eastern Europeans on rusty ferries and the navy using it for target practice and now expects that to be delivered.

The ballot paper option that won said "Leave the European Union". No more, no less. Everything from the EEA option to no deal would deliver that.
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07 Dec 2018 14:41 #1129 by Dancingbear
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OsloBlue wrote: Exactly Mike.

This is the problem when you have a leave campaign that promises everything under the sun. Different people latch on to different promises, forget the others, then except their own version of Brexit to be delivered.

Best example on here is Crackpot Soul who got told that Brexit would involve putting Eastern Europeans on rusty ferries and the navy using it for target practice and now expects that to be delivered.

The ballot paper option that won said "Leave the European Union". No more, no less. Everything from the EEA option to no deal would deliver that.


TBF hes prob the only one who thought that would happen.

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07 Dec 2018 14:46 #1130 by CCU
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This did make me chuckle...


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07 Dec 2018 16:40 #1131 by Alan
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So does this mean everyone who voted remain didn't vote for the remain they had on ballot paper too?

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07 Dec 2018 17:53 #1132 by BlueAl
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Behave yourself Alan, you should know it's only remainders that are allowed to twist the facts.

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07 Dec 2018 18:37 #1133 by seesaw50
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Remainders?

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07 Dec 2018 19:40 #1134 by howoldboy
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It's an angaram of reindeers.
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10 Dec 2018 08:44 #1135 by CCU
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The proof that the EU are so desperate for us stay, is that they pass something as important as this the day before our big vote in Parliament without asking their Members. And folk want to be a part of that?!


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10 Dec 2018 09:14 #1136 by orfc
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CCU wrote: The proof that the EU are so desperate for us stay, is that they pass something as important as this the day before our big vote in Parliament without asking their Members. And folk want to be a part of that?!


???

The Court's members are its judges, and they're the ones who passed the verdict

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_members_of...ean_Court_of_Justice

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10 Dec 2018 09:16 - 10 Dec 2018 09:29 #1137 by CCU
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orfc wrote:

CCU wrote: The proof that the EU are so desperate for us stay, is that they pass something as important as this the day before our big vote in Parliament without asking their Members. And folk want to be a part of that?!


???

The Court's members are its judges, and they're the ones who passed the verdict

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_members_of...ean_Court_of_Justice


It’s more the timing. You seriously think the ECJ suddenly decided to bring this up on the eve of the big Parliament vote of their own accord?!

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10 Dec 2018 10:46 #1138 by CookieThumper
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Seems like quite a good time to point out we have sovereignty, to be fair.
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10 Dec 2018 12:03 #1139 by CCU
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BBC Polital Editor reporting tomorrows vote may be off...


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10 Dec 2018 13:34 #1140 by franksidebottom
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CookieThumper wrote: Seems like quite a good time to point out we have sovereignty, to be fair.


So the EU can, in no way shape or form, govern us?

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10 Dec 2018 13:35 #1141 by Dancingbear
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So why cant we unilaterally withdraw from the so called backstp?

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10 Dec 2018 14:51 #1142 by Flatcap
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We can.
The problem is there would no longer be free movement of goods and people across the Irish Border.

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10 Dec 2018 15:01 #1144 by orfc
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10 Dec 2018 15:03 #1145 by CCU
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They’ve just said now on the news that any Backstop could be illegal under EU Law’s!

You seriously couldn’t write this mess!?!

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10 Dec 2018 16:30 #1146 by chedderbob247
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Let’s hope that the vote being cancelled is just another step in the direction of Brexit being cancelled altogether.

It’s getting clearer and clearer by the day that is what will eventually happen.
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10 Dec 2018 22:05 #1148 by orfc
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chedderbob247 wrote: Let’s hope that the vote being cancelled is just another step in the direction of Brexit being cancelled altogether.

It’s getting clearer and clearer by the day that is what will eventually happen.


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10 Dec 2018 22:48 #1149 by seesaw50
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CCU wrote: They’ve just said now on the news that any Backstop could be illegal under EU Law’s!

You seriously couldn’t write this mess!?!


Who said this ..it hasn't been repeated on tonight's news bulletins..ch4, bbc, or itv

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10 Dec 2018 23:01 - 10 Dec 2018 23:02 #1150 by CCU
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seesaw50 wrote:

CCU wrote: They’ve just said now on the news that any Backstop could be illegal under EU Law’s!

You seriously couldn’t write this mess!?!


Who said this ..it hasn't been repeated on tonight's news bulletins..ch4, bbc, or itv


Sir Graham Brady, of the Conservative Party 1922 Commitee, on Sky News earlier. He was quoting the Attorney General. Likely been pushed down by the later announcement of the vote being postponed?


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