Brexit

More
12 Jan 2019 12:52 #1451 by Gundog
Replied by Gundog on topic Brexit
It’s stunning how many staunch brexiteers still don’t have the first clue as to what they voted for. At least our passports will be blue :eyeroll: (They could be anyway)
Staunch Brexiteer here - how dare you suggest I didn't know what I voted for!
I didn't know what I voted for in 1975 when we were asked if we wanted to continue to trade within the EEC countries. I thought I was voting for a trading arrangement but ended up being dictated to by a bunch of booze soaked un-elected freeloaders. (Can we have that referendum again?) :another eyeroll:
I know exactly what I voted for this time, I didn't for one minute believe anything spouted by either side of the Brexit campaign, I made my own mind up based on years of deceit, lies and pumping my tax into a broken model, supporting lame duck other economies which will all go tits up when the Euro eventually falls of the cliff. Please don't insult me with horseshit like that. The one good thing to come out of this absolute dogs dinner is that it has finally hit home to some of the younger generation (I won't tar them all with the same brush) that voting matters and sitting on your arse letting everyone else take care of it gets you to where we are - please don't blame me.
The following user(s) Liked this post:: Northumbrian, Bruntonpasty

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

More
12 Jan 2019 12:55 #1452 by Northumbrian
Replied by Northumbrian on topic Brexit
Personally I think the EU is a great idea that has been hijacked by Empire building federalists. Having a trading block with close ties on security and standards makes perfect sense. As soon as those at the top decided they wanted to expand the empire to take in poorer countries in Eastern Europe it lost it's balance... policies like Freedom of movement work if all states are of a similar economic level... but if you bring in much poorer states, of course you will get mass migration... and of course those huge levels of migration will put pressure on infrastructure. It's all pretty obvious what would happen. Without major reform to freedom of movement the EU is finished.

The EU is also holding us back on global trade. France and Italy are fundamentally protectionist and view any competition as bad. The EU have been spectacularly useless at negotiating trade deals. Only Canada and Japan are really worth anything to us.... they do not have Free Trade Agreements with 4 out of the top 5 non-eu global economies. To put it into context, if you exclude the EU market itself, the global free trade market we have access to as part of the EU is five times smaller than Chile has access to in GDP terms, three times smaller than Iceland has access to. That is appalling... but it is down to the protectionist attitude of states like France and Italy. Given time, we have a much better chance of signing an FTA with the USA and China as a single nation. That will be crucial for our future. Once we have left the EU they will be much keener to sign an FTA with us themselves, before there is much divergence on standards etc.

Finally, we were told an EU army was a fantasy and would never happen. Well it's pretty clear it will happen now. That is a dangerous thing, as it's not inconceivable that right wing parties gain control of the EU through European elections.... maybe not this time but certainly in the next 5 to 10 years. I haven't seen that possibility being mentioned in the media.

Junker and Merkel have made it clear further unification and ultimately a single European state is the goal. Junker is actively trying to remove veto powers and has called for all countries in the EU to adopt the euro. Personally i don't want to be part of a federalist European superstate... for these reasons, if there was another vote then I'd vote leave again.... none of the fundamental issues with the EU have changed.

Sent from my SM-G950F using Tapatalk
The following user(s) Liked this post:: Blues86, Bruntonpasty, Yorkie Blue

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

More
12 Jan 2019 13:30 #1453 by BlueAl
Replied by BlueAl on topic Brexit
Let's not forget Cameron's fruitless trip round Europe, when he begged/demanded reforms and came back with sweet fa. That was when a lot of people decided they wanted no part of it.
The following user(s) Liked this post:: Northumbrian

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

More
12 Jan 2019 14:04 #1454 by shaldon1
Replied by shaldon1 on topic Brexit
Any person who thinks that by remaining nothing would change should think again.We would be screwed at every opportunity.
The following user(s) Liked this post:: Waltero, Northumbrian, Yorkie Blue

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

More
12 Jan 2019 23:38 #1455 by Tommy Passmoor
Replied by Tommy Passmoor on topic Brexit
Forget about the arguments, Brexit is about democracy, whether for or against doesn’t really matter. The vote has to be respected. If you can’t except democracy don’t cry when anarchy takes over. Forgive me for moving to the patriotic mode, but for f@@ks sake we pulled most of them out of the shit not that long ago and not only do we get no respect, they expect us to grovel.
The following user(s) Liked this post:: Northumbrian, NORTHERNSOUL, munchymagic

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

More
13 Jan 2019 04:46 #1456 by High Street
Replied by High Street on topic Brexit
I know exactly what l voted for. It was stated, on the official leaflet that came through the door, and on many interviews, that voting to leave meant leaving the single market and customs union. No hard or soft Brexit, which was only invented by the losers to muddy things.
There’s a new remainer thing kicking about that only 38% of the electorate voted for Brexit. Bitter and twisted til the end.
The following user(s) Liked this post:: CCU, Northumbrian, Yorkie Blue

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

More
13 Jan 2019 09:17 #1457 by Dancingbear
Replied by Dancingbear on topic Brexit

High Street wrote: I know exactly what l voted for. It was stated, on the official leaflet that came through the door, and on many interviews, that voting to leave meant leaving the single market and customs union. No hard or soft Brexit, which was only invented by the losers to muddy things.
There’s a new remainer thing kicking about that only 38% of the electorate voted for Brexit. Bitter and twisted til the end.


Which is why Dave the shit as he should go down in history should have phoned them the next morning and said sorry chaps you’ll have to bum your own pigs from now on we’ve voted to leave so we’re off.

There's only one way of life and that's your own!!!
The following user(s) Liked this post:: Bruntonpasty, Yorkie Blue

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

More
13 Jan 2019 11:12 #1458 by CCU
Replied by CCU on topic Brexit
Not a bad summing up of the current state!


Win or Lose, Up The Blues!

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

More
13 Jan 2019 11:32 #1459 by Dancingbear
Replied by Dancingbear on topic Brexit
I fail to see how anyone can blame labour for the current situation. The conservatives had a majority and a mandate in 2017. They’ve brought this shambles on themselves. At least Jacob Rees Mogg says they’re the opposition it’s what they’re supposed to do.

There's only one way of life and that's your own!!!

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

More
13 Jan 2019 11:52 #1460 by CumbrianView
Replied by CumbrianView on topic Brexit
Trying to keep it football related.And i know he was a mate of Knightons . Warnock launches pro-Brexit tirade: 'To hell with the rest of the world'


Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

More
13 Jan 2019 12:37 #1461 by cufcmike
Replied by cufcmike on topic Brexit

CCU wrote: Not a bad summing up of the current state!


In fairness though he had folk fuming at him for declining to back a second referendum too...

While I voted Remain, I don't think I support a second referendum. The folk calling for one aren't prepared for the very realistic prospect that Leave could win again.

I think the Norway model is the only way forward.

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

  • Bruntonpasty
  • Bruntonpasty's Avatar
  • Offline
  • First Team Player
  • First Team Player
More
13 Jan 2019 14:11 #1462 by Bruntonpasty
Replied by Bruntonpasty on topic Brexit
I think it was C4 news that were asking the question whether those who were too young to vote in R1 would vote remain or leave as it would affect their future. By that measure, do we have a new referendum every year? every two perhaps? Also, do those of us who are considered middle aged not have a future? I hope to live at least another thirty years or so, do I not count anymore?

They don't like it up 'em!

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

More
13 Jan 2019 14:42 #1463 by ParcelPete
Replied by ParcelPete on topic Brexit

cufcmike wrote:

CCU wrote: Not a bad summing up of the current state!


In fairness though he had folk fuming at him for declining to back a second referendum too...

While I voted Remain, I don't think I support a second referendum. The folk calling for one aren't prepared for the very realistic prospect that Leave could win again.

I think the Norway model is the only way forward.


I agree.

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

  • orfc
  • orfc's Avatar Topic Author
  • Offline
  • First Team Player
  • First Team Player
More
13 Jan 2019 20:04 #1464 by orfc
Replied by orfc on topic Brexit
here comes the long grass... Brexit getting pushed back 4 months

www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jan/13...-until-at-least-july


gives us a chance to elect some new euro-mps in May :-)

www.theparliamentmagazine.eu/articles/ne...n-european-elections

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

More
13 Jan 2019 20:12 #1465 by munchymagic
Replied by munchymagic on topic Brexit
I voted to leave.

However if I voted to stay and they overturned it I would be furious.

If it is such a ball-ache to sort out then do not offer the option in the first place and rely on your own arrogance as was first displayed by Cameron in the first place then May when she thought she would get a landslide.

Incompetence all round but I would rather not vote than vote for that IRA loving rat Corbyn, I don't even know if he knows what he wants apart from screwing over the British public.

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

  • orfc
  • orfc's Avatar Topic Author
  • Offline
  • First Team Player
  • First Team Player
More
13 Jan 2019 20:38 #1466 by orfc
Replied by orfc on topic Brexit
I doubt they'll do anything as outright as overturn it, shouting "come on then you [censored] gammons, what you gonna do", though they should ... it'll be a slow series of delays, with general elections in between, leaders coming and going and it slowly gets buried beneath more current crises. When anyone brings it up it'll be harrumphed at and someone will say ukip only polled 5% so no-one's that arsed anymore

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

More
13 Jan 2019 20:48 #1467 by CCU
Replied by CCU on topic Brexit
Failure of the UK to ‘Brexit’ would be the single biggest political miscarriage of the electorate in history.

May hasn’t got much right, but when she says it has to be done as that’s what the result was, she’s 100% correct.

UK Politics would be finished to the man in the street, regardless of how you voted, if the result is any way ignored/voided/overturned. Democracy would be fatally wounded...

Win or Lose, Up The Blues!

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

  • orfc
  • orfc's Avatar Topic Author
  • Offline
  • First Team Player
  • First Team Player
More
13 Jan 2019 20:53 #1468 by orfc
Replied by orfc on topic Brexit
Meh, the man in the street only got the vote in 1918 anyways, and they still vote [censored] tory anyways

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

More
13 Jan 2019 21:04 #1469 by munchymagic
Replied by munchymagic on topic Brexit
We all voted - there was an outcome and there should not be an option to return to the EU.

That part needs to be essential unless they are basing 'a once in a lifetime opportunity vote' on an 89 year old person.

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

More
13 Jan 2019 21:08 #1470 by High Street
Replied by High Street on topic Brexit
Or in the case of SNP, every 4 years.

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

More
13 Jan 2019 21:28 #1471 by howoldboy
Replied by howoldboy on topic Brexit
What amazes me about the Brexit situation is that so many Northern based voters bought into the garbage spouted by the Conservative elite.

With jobs potentially on the line why would any working class man/woman choose to vote the same way as (let alone believe) exclusively educated ex Etonians like Jacob Rees-Mogg and Boris Johnson?

Do you seriously think these Southern toffs give a s**t about the average working man/woman?

Do you seriously think they will ensure your future will be better post Brexit?
The following user(s) Liked this post:: munchymagic

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

More
13 Jan 2019 21:37 #1472 by Yorkie Blue
Replied by Yorkie Blue on topic Brexit
Do you think the Labour Party gives a toss about the average working man / woman, do you think the Brussels elite gives a toss about the average working man / woman.
The following user(s) Liked this post:: Dentonholmersimpson

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

More
13 Jan 2019 21:38 #1473 by Dancingbear
Replied by Dancingbear on topic Brexit
Problem was you either voted the same way as Cameron and Osborne or Johnson and Reese Mogg what a bloody choice

There's only one way of life and that's your own!!!

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

More
13 Jan 2019 21:52 #1474 by howoldboy
Replied by howoldboy on topic Brexit

Yorkie Blue wrote: Do you think the Labour Party gives a toss about the average working man / woman, do you think the Brussels elite gives a toss about the average working man / woman.


Yes to both questions Yorkie.

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

More
13 Jan 2019 21:56 #1475 by High Street
Replied by High Street on topic Brexit
I can’t remember it being a party vote? Must be getting forgetful in my old age.

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

More
13 Jan 2019 22:08 #1476 by howoldboy
Replied by howoldboy on topic Brexit
Probably because in your world there is only one party High Street.

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

More
13 Jan 2019 22:17 #1477 by High Street
Replied by High Street on topic Brexit
Is there? Do tell?

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

More
13 Jan 2019 22:27 #1478 by howoldboy
Replied by howoldboy on topic Brexit
I can't remember ...give me a clue.

If I was guessing I would say slightly to the right.

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

More
13 Jan 2019 22:34 #1479 by High Street
Replied by High Street on topic Brexit
I’ve voted for 4 parties over the years, the joys of being a floating voter looking at things is great.
I’m guessing you’re a ‘Labour man’- my grandad was, my dad was and l am. In fact l bet you’re definitely a Labour man and think anything other than voting for them means you’re rich/ toff/racist/ nazi/ fascist.
The following user(s) Liked this post:: Northumbrian

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

More
13 Jan 2019 22:39 #1480 by howoldboy
Replied by howoldboy on topic Brexit
Pretty indecisive then.
Maybe you've got it wrong again and next time you'll be a Remoaner like me?
I've never voted Conservative and never will.
Was one of your earliest votes for the National Socialist German Workers’ Party?

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

More
13 Jan 2019 22:49 - 13 Jan 2019 23:12 #1481 by NORTHERNSOUL
Replied by NORTHERNSOUL on topic Brexit

High Street wrote: I know exactly what l voted for. It was stated, on the official leaflet that came through the door, and on many interviews, that voting to leave meant leaving the single market and customs union. No hard or soft Brexit, which was only invented by the losers to muddy things.
There’s a new remainer thing kicking about that only 38% of the electorate voted for Brexit. Bitter and twisted til the end.


And by doing so that would then be the end of free movement of EU Citizens which should then have lead to a rounding up and deportation of those who no longer had a right to be here.

But instead, she comes up with a loony scheme that lets them all stay that now makes it impossible to get rid of the Poles and Rumanians who are 80% of our problems defeating the whole point.

But Mother Teressa lost her bottle when if shed just done a single one-off deal with Spain half our overseas residents would have been protected and if the other proper European countries like France Germany Eire and the Low countries wanted the same deal we wouldn't have objected [ i certainly wouldn't have ].

Every meeting she went to with Junker that we didn't get our own way should have seen 10k of them on the ferry the following morning.

But i.m really interested to hear where the remainers think this is going or do they really think May is going to win the vote.

Another referendum or the cancelling of Brexit will see long term serious anarchy on the streets [ which I think will be the best outcome because it will shake up British politics once and for all and rid us of the arsehole MP.s and parties that we currently have to put up with and give power back to the people.]Just like in France where when the put a couple of million people on the streets willing to fight for what they want the Government start conceding in days. And then we could then establish a party like Le Penns in France where they put people with genuine French Ancestry first and we can do away with the ridiculous concept that wanting to get your country back for the people who actually own it is anything to do with Racism when its simply a case of Politics, History and Geography then we can start on the re. education of white British people who like some of the mods on here who have got rather confused along the way about just who Britain belongs to.

But I really would like to know how the remainers think they can win this battle ?

For me when the vote fails May sits down and prepares a list of demands and consequences and when the EU don't agree she.ll have nowhere to go but a rope from the Downing Street stairs and then at least the negotiations will be in the hands of that slimy tw. at Gove, Mogg, Boris and hopefully big Nige who i.m pretty sure won't take the crap from Junker that May has.

" if the old git stepped out in front of my car i wouldnt be looking for the brakes thats for sure "
Last edit: 13 Jan 2019 23:12 by NORTHERNSOUL.

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

More
13 Jan 2019 22:56 #1482 by howoldboy
Replied by howoldboy on topic Brexit
As ever difficult to understand let alone argue with any of that.

Bullsh*t baffles brains every time.
The following user(s) Liked this post:: DeckchairBlue

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

More
13 Jan 2019 23:01 #1483 by munchymagic
Replied by munchymagic on topic Brexit
If you go back on democracy and people get their windows put in because of it and we have riots again then where will it end?

Reneging on this agreement would be the blackest ever day for democracy this country has ever seen.

If this form of law is acceptable then is looting, robbing and the likes also okay because this form of law also goes against what the majority want?
The following user(s) Liked this post:: Northumbrian

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

More
13 Jan 2019 23:08 #1484 by howoldboy
Replied by howoldboy on topic Brexit

munchymagic wrote: If you go back on democracy and people get their windows put in because of it and we have riots again then where will it end?

Reneging on this agreement would be the blackest ever day for democracy this country has ever seen.

If this form of law is acceptable then is looting, robbing and the likes also okay because this form of law also goes against what the majority want?


There is a certain irony here Munchy.

The Remoaners lost the ballot and are said to be bad losers but it is the Brexiteers who are threatening violence if they don°t get their own way.

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

More
13 Jan 2019 23:10 #1485 by munchymagic
Replied by munchymagic on topic Brexit

howoldboy wrote:

munchymagic wrote: If you go back on democracy and people get their windows put in because of it and we have riots again then where will it end?

Reneging on this agreement would be the blackest ever day for democracy this country has ever seen.

If this form of law is acceptable then is looting, robbing and the likes also okay because this form of law also goes against what the majority want?


There is a certain irony here Munchy.

The Remoaners lost the ballot and are said to be bad losers but it is the Brexiteers who are threatening violence if they don°t get their own way.


Wont happen pal, the same reversal would have also have had the same effect.

Nobody likes winning and finding out that you have lost.

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

More
13 Jan 2019 23:19 #1486 by howoldboy
Replied by howoldboy on topic Brexit

munchymagic wrote:

howoldboy wrote:

munchymagic wrote: If you go back on democracy and people get their windows put in because of it and we have riots again then where will it end?

Reneging on this agreement would be the blackest ever day for democracy this country has ever seen.

If this form of law is acceptable then is looting, robbing and the likes also okay because this form of law also goes against what the majority want?


There is a certain irony here Munchy.

The Remoaners lost the ballot and are said to be bad losers but it is the Brexiteers who are threatening violence if they don°t get their own way.


Wont happen pal, the same reversal would have also have had the same effect.

Nobody likes winning and finding out that you have lost.


There is no way the Remoaners would be able to compete with the Brexiteers in a civil war Munch.

Football Lads Alliance, NS and the squaddies. No wonder Anna Soubry is nervous.

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

More
13 Jan 2019 23:19 - 13 Jan 2019 23:22 #1487 by NORTHERNSOUL
Replied by NORTHERNSOUL on topic Brexit

howoldboy wrote:

munchymagic wrote: If you go back on democracy and people get their windows put in because of it and we have riots again then where will it end?

Reneging on this agreement would be the blackest ever day for democracy this country has ever seen.

If this form of law is acceptable then is looting, robbing and the likes also okay because this form of law also goes against what the majority want?


There is a certain irony here Munchy.

The Remoaners lost the ballot and are said to be bad losers but it is the Brexiteers who are threatening violence if they don°t get their own way.


In a war who wins ?

The biggest baddest ba. stards with the best guns

And I can assure you that that definitely won't be the Remoaners.

The politicians have had their chance and failed miserably Time to let the people decide on the streets.

" if the old git stepped out in front of my car i wouldnt be looking for the brakes thats for sure "
Last edit: 13 Jan 2019 23:22 by NORTHERNSOUL.

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

More
13 Jan 2019 23:22 #1488 by howoldboy
Replied by howoldboy on topic Brexit
We discussed this the other night.

It will be the Russians.

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

  • DeckchairBlue
  • Away
  • Playmaker
  • Playmaker
More
13 Jan 2019 23:46 - 13 Jan 2019 23:47 #1489 by DeckchairBlue
Replied by DeckchairBlue on topic Brexit
JC was right about you wasn't he Barry - a fantasist

None of that will happen, and if it does you won't be there, you'll be sat at home wanking over your keyboard making an excuse for why you couldn't make it.

If any of what you say is true then how comes the turn out to pro-brexit marches has been so poor whereas the Pro-EU ones gather 100s of thousands in support ?

Strange that you decry the death of democracy yet believe that the way to solve this is to threaten violence against all those who hold a different opinion to you, surely that isn't the way a democracy works ?
Last edit: 13 Jan 2019 23:47 by DeckchairBlue.

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

More
14 Jan 2019 00:34 - 14 Jan 2019 00:47 #1490 by NORTHERNSOUL
Replied by NORTHERNSOUL on topic Brexit

DeckchairBlue wrote: JC was right about you wasn't he Barry - a fantasist

None of that will happen, and if it does you won't be there, you'll be sat at home wanking over your keyboard making an excuse for why you couldn't make it.

If any of what you say is true then how comes the turn out to pro-brexit marches has been so poor whereas the Pro-EU ones gather 100s of thousands in support ?

Strange that you decry the death of democracy yet believe that the way to solve this is to threaten violence against all those who hold a different opinion to you, surely that isn't the way a democracy works ?


Ha Ha once again the man who knows nothing

If youd read at the time I spent 2 weeks "influencing" voters at both the Referendum and the last general election

I was paid to do so like the other five or six lads involved will try and find you a couple of stories from the Telegraph about some of the stuff we got up to and I was also the subject of a complaint to plod from MP Jake Berry [ somehow his home address got onto the internet, unfortunately ]

So how did you put your time to good use on the last couple of campaigns then Mr Happy ?

At least when i.m in front of the computer i.m earning my living booking the girl's appts. So what's your excuse ?

Democracy is getting the biggest baddest and best crew onto the streets and convincing the most people to vote your way [ or more importantly convincing them not to vote the other way ] Corbyns lot have been at it since he got elected leader trouble for him is they're good at sending out snotty threatening e.mails but tend to run a mile people like us turn up.

As for the marches i.m unaware that theres been anything national planned yet But I know the guy at UKIP is putting plans together [ thats why Big Nige disassociated himself from them before Xmas ] I have a date and I know the BNP and The Football Lads have been invited to take part So once Mother Teressa finally sells us out the fun and games will start. But it's not too late to get yourself involved I know theres a good couple of groups up in geordieland I can slip you a BNP membership application in post if you like.

" if the old git stepped out in front of my car i wouldnt be looking for the brakes thats for sure "
Last edit: 14 Jan 2019 00:47 by NORTHERNSOUL.

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

  • DeckchairBlue
  • Away
  • Playmaker
  • Playmaker
More
14 Jan 2019 01:22 #1491 by DeckchairBlue
Replied by DeckchairBlue on topic Brexit
Shit I didn't realise BNP, FLA and UKIP were all going to march together, so we'll he talking big numbers this time, they might even break the 1000 mark !

Your an embarrassment.

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

More
14 Jan 2019 07:34 #1492 by Northumbrian
Replied by Northumbrian on topic Brexit
I love how the remain side is now spinning that Brexit was a Tory elite vote now. If you analyse the figures for the referendum vote,, and this has been done extensively, there is a very real and definite link between wealth and voting remain. Brexit was not about party politics... spinning it as a Tory vote is utter cobblers... 6 million Labour supporters voted to leave.

Remain:

- The last Tory PM
- The last Tory Chancellor
- The current Tory PM
- The current Tory Chancellor
- The majority of the House of Lords
- 75% of MP's
- The CBI
- The institute of Directors
- The BBC
- ITV
- Sky TV
- Channel 4
- The Head of the Bank of England
- The Treasury
- The civil service
- The vast majority of blue chip company heads
- The vast majority of millionaires
- Pretty much every "celebrity" in the country
- The Head of the London stock exchange
- The majority of the wealthy South East
- The majority of wealthy London areas

I find it a ridiculous argument that Brexit was a vote for the Tory elite because Rees Mogg and a handful of toffs voted to leave. Brexit is not about stupid party politics, it is far more important. If you voted to remain because of the misguided notion that Brexit was a Tory thing then the reality is you voted to support the elite in this country.... you voted for the status quo.... you voted for no change. That is your right to do that, but let's not pretend remain was anything other than a vote for the establishment.

Sent from my SM-G950F using Tapatalk

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

More
14 Jan 2019 08:08 #1493 by Markovitch
Replied by Markovitch on topic Brexit
Brexit was instigated by Cameron and Osborne to threaten the EU, they didn't want offshore trust ownership disclosed. No-one thought Brexit would happen. Having caused the current shitshow they then ran away! I would imagine 90% of the country would agree that just leaving alone would have been the best course of action but Tory self-interest has caused all the lies, division and cost to our nation. Still maybe better than discussing why out taxes are being used to kill Syrian women and buy bombs that we can't steer. I wonder what they will do next?

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

  • orfc
  • orfc's Avatar Topic Author
  • Offline
  • First Team Player
  • First Team Player
More
14 Jan 2019 09:17 #1494 by orfc
Replied by orfc on topic Brexit
No Brexit more likely than No Deal says Prime Minister Theresa May

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-46856149

God save the queen
The fascist regime
They made you a moron
A potential H bomb
God save the queen
She's not a human being
and There's no brexit
And England's dreaming
Don't be told what you want
Don't be told what you need
There's no brexit
No brexit
No brexit for you

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

More
14 Jan 2019 09:36 #1495 by Dancingbear
Replied by Dancingbear on topic Brexit
Honestly, she'll say owt to try and force people to vote for her shoddy deal that no one likes. If shes all for democracy then shut the feck up and let the MPs vote how they want. Then do what David the shit did and piss off.

There's only one way of life and that's your own!!!
The following user(s) Liked this post:: Northumbrian, NORTHERNSOUL

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

  • thesilentone
  • thesilentone's Avatar
  • Offline
  • First Team Player
  • First Team Player
  • my account was hacked
More
14 Jan 2019 09:56 #1496 by thesilentone
Replied by thesilentone on topic Brexit

Dancingbear wrote: Honestly, she'll say owt to try and force people to vote for her shoddy deal that no one likes. If shes all for democracy then shut the feck up and let the MPs vote how they want. Then do what David the shit did and piss off.


Which sums the problem up very well !

The MP's are not elected to 'vote how they want ' they are elected to act in the interests of their constituents....

Or, of course we can really go down the yank route and vote for the highest bidder, which appears to be the case.

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

More
14 Jan 2019 09:58 #1497 by pacirv
Replied by pacirv on topic Brexit
Im not politically minded all politicians are self serving, but the Tory party are the biggest threat to this country’s future their only achievement since they came to power is to systematically dismantle the very fabric of what make us Brits unique as a nation.
Lining the pockets of company’s who a lot of them have connections with, and changing local laws so they can railroad through obscenities like fracking against the will of local people and councils. Not to mention the sly selling off of our NHS to private companies. Personally I’m quite ok with a hung Govt where no one party has the backing for their more extreme policies whatever party that was.

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

More
14 Jan 2019 10:09 #1498 by Dancingbear
Replied by Dancingbear on topic Brexit

thesilentone wrote:

Dancingbear wrote: Honestly, she'll say owt to try and force people to vote for her shoddy deal that no one likes. If shes all for democracy then shut the feck up and let the MPs vote how they want. Then do what David the shit did and piss off.


Which sums the problem up very well !

The MP's are not elected to 'vote how they want ' they are elected to act in the interests of their constituents....

Or, of course we can really go down the yank route and vote for the highest bidder, which appears to be the case.


And im sure they will say they are voting in the interests of their constituents whichever way they vote.

There's only one way of life and that's your own!!!

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

  • orfc
  • orfc's Avatar Topic Author
  • Offline
  • First Team Player
  • First Team Player
More
14 Jan 2019 10:15 #1499 by orfc
Replied by orfc on topic Brexit

thesilentone wrote:

Dancingbear wrote: Honestly, she'll say owt to try and force people to vote for her shoddy deal that no one likes. If shes all for democracy then shut the feck up and let the MPs vote how they want. Then do what David the shit did and piss off.


Which sums the problem up very well !

The MP's are not elected to 'vote how they want ' they are elected to act in the interests of their constituents....

Or, of course we can really go down the yank route and vote for the highest bidder, which appears to be the case.



Interests though, not wishes.

No, you can't always get what you want
You can't always get what you want
You can't always get what you want
But if you try sometime you find
You get what you need

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

More
14 Jan 2019 10:25 - 14 Jan 2019 10:29 #1500 by Happyblue
Replied by Happyblue on topic Brexit

NORTHERNSOUL wrote:

DeckchairBlue wrote: JC was right about you wasn't he Barry - a fantasist

None of that will happen, and if it does you won't be there, you'll be sat at home wanking over your keyboard making an excuse for why you couldn't make it.

If any of what you say is true then how comes the turn out to pro-brexit marches has been so poor whereas the Pro-EU ones gather 100s of thousands in support ?

Strange that you decry the death of democracy yet believe that the way to solve this is to threaten violence against all those who hold a different opinion to you, surely that isn't the way a democracy works ?


Ha Ha once again the man who knows nothing

If youd read at the time I spent 2 weeks "influencing" voters at both the Referendum and the last general election

I was paid to do so like the other five or six lads involved will try and find you a couple of stories from the Telegraph about some of the stuff we got up to and I was also the subject of a complaint to plod from MP Jake Berry [ somehow his home address got onto the internet, unfortunately ]

So how did you put your time to good use on the last couple of campaigns then Mr Happy ?

At least when i.m in front of the computer i.m earning my living booking the girl's appts. So what's your excuse ?

Democracy is getting the biggest baddest and best crew onto the streets and convincing the most people to vote your way [ or more importantly convincing them not to vote the other way ] Corbyns lot have been at it since he got elected leader trouble for him is they're good at sending out snotty threatening e.mails but tend to run a mile people like us turn up.

As for the marches i.m unaware that theres been anything national planned yet But I know the guy at UKIP is putting plans together [ thats why Big Nige disassociated himself from them before Xmas ] I have a date and I know the BNP and The Football Lads have been invited to take part So once Mother Teressa finally sells us out the fun and games will start. But it's not too late to get yourself involved I know theres a good couple of groups up in geordieland I can slip you a BNP membership application in post if you like.

Mr Happy ? Deckchair is not me please once again check your facts, Bloody hell.

Also democracy is not using violence and threatening behaviour to get your way that's the very definition of the end of democracy.

Owners like the stadium, full of Sh!T
Last edit: 14 Jan 2019 10:29 by Happyblue.

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

Time to create page: 0.477 seconds
Website and all content © Copyright 2019 TheCumbrians.net. All Rights Reserved.