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02 Aug 2019 14:27 #3401 by franksidebottom
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sirjimmyglass wrote: I know what you're getting at a lot of the time Kessler, but folk can't complain about being unable to save money and be spending £200 a month on a car finance deal.


Was just about to post exactly the same jimmyglass, they would be able to save if they didn’t have a car finance deal! Save 300 a month and in little over a year you’ve got 4K to get a decent car of your own, then you can continue saving after that for anything else you want, maybe even for a rainy day (now there’s a novel idea Kessler). The alternative is to keep on paying 300 to a finance company for the rest of you life for a car which you never actually own and have no spare money to do anything else with.

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02 Aug 2019 14:29 #3402 by Dancingbear
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Didn’t realise there were that many Welsh Jews.

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02 Aug 2019 15:03 #3403 by carwash
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Dancingbear wrote: Didn’t realise there were that many Welsh Jews.


The Welsh in Radnor probably hate Jeremy Corbyn because of his privileged upbringing across the border in a large manor house in Shropshire.
www.shropshirestar.com/news/2015/08/25/j...in-shropshire-manor/

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02 Aug 2019 15:06 - 02 Aug 2019 15:10 #3404 by munchymagic
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franksidebottom wrote:

sirjimmyglass wrote: I know what you're getting at a lot of the time Kessler, but folk can't complain about being unable to save money and be spending £200 a month on a car finance deal.


Was just about to post exactly the same jimmyglass, they would be able to save if they didn’t have a car finance deal! Save 300 a month and in little over a year you’ve got 4K to get a decent car of your own, then you can continue saving after that for anything else you want, maybe even for a rainy day (now there’s a novel idea Kessler). The alternative is to keep on paying 300 to a finance company for the rest of you life for a car which you never actually own and have no spare money to do anything else with.


I started out with old MK3 Ford Escorts when I passed my test, sensible really when you have just learned to drive - paid £500 for the first one and £140 for the second one, got about five years worth of motoring out of them.

When you are young and just passed your test as any motorist will tell you the insurance is the stinging part as for the £500 car the insurance was £400 initially.

Flash things and bling have never really bothered me to be honest, a car to me is just from getting from a to b and have never owned a car under six years old - if I did buy a new car I would be panicking about the slightest scratch and depreciation in value as soon as I bought the thing.

As for phones, been with the 3 Network for over fifteen years get all I want for £20 a month with loads of data and a new phone every two years - the phone I use is about five years old and a small old Samsung her Dad gave me that does everything I want from a phone so these new phones get given to the missus who actually gets use out of them and prefers the newer technology, although she has the Apple phone I got, and brand new Samsung phone as spare (it is like a brick far too big) so some of these contracts are decent value.

Saying that, I lived like this when I was earning alright wages - now that money is tight I am still in the same habit so I don't feel like I am missing out or underprivileged as top range of any product is merely cosmetic in my eyes.
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02 Aug 2019 15:28 - 02 Aug 2019 15:52 #3405 by Kessler
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franksidebottom wrote: Save 300 a month and in little over a year you’ve got 4K to get a decent car of your own, then you can continue saving after that for anything else you want, maybe even for a rainy day (now there’s a novel idea Kessler). The alternative is to keep on paying 300 to a finance company for the rest of you life for a car which you never actually own and have no spare money to do anything else with.


And where do they get that £300 from then? Most of the people I know are lucky if they have £50 left over at the end of the month. If they do have any extra money it usually goes towards paying bills or paying down debt. I'm not exactly the biggest fan of the younger generation today but they are unfairly stereotyped as being financially irresponsible. The reason many of them don't have savings isn't because they aren't being prudent, it's because they do not have any money to save.
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02 Aug 2019 15:55 #3406 by munchymagic
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franksidebottom wrote: Save 300 a month and in little over a year you’ve got 4K to get a decent car of your own, then you can continue saving after that for anything else you want, maybe even for a rainy day (now there’s a novel idea Kessler). The alternative is to keep on paying 300 to a finance company for the rest of you life for a car which you never actually own and have no spare money to do anything else with.



Save £300 a month? Ha. Most of the people I know are lucky to have £50 left for the rest of the month after bills are paid.


A lot of folk who rent have no choice but to go on gas and electric meters and we all know what a con they are so I do feel for them on this.

You seemed to be fairly young Kessler so in one aspect the finer things in life matter to you more at that age I guess and you aspire to get them more.

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02 Aug 2019 17:26 #3407 by Dancingbear
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carwash wrote:

Dancingbear wrote: Didn’t realise there were that many Welsh Jews.


The Welsh in Radnor probably hate Jeremy Corbyn because of his privileged upbringing across the border in a large manor house in Shropshire.
www.shropshirestar.com/news/2015/08/25/j...in-shropshire-manor/


Aye. It was in response to someone on the last page saying antisemetism had cost labour 12.5% share of the vote. In reality it will have had sod all to do with it.

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02 Aug 2019 17:45 #3408 by franksidebottom
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franksidebottom wrote: Save 300 a month and in little over a year you’ve got 4K to get a decent car of your own, then you can continue saving after that for anything else you want, maybe even for a rainy day (now there’s a novel idea Kessler). The alternative is to keep on paying 300 to a finance company for the rest of you life for a car which you never actually own and have no spare money to do anything else with.


And where do they get that £300 from then? Most of the people I know are lucky if they have £50 left over at the end of the month. If they do have any extra money it usually goes towards paying bills or paying down debt. I'm not exactly the biggest fan of the younger generation today but they are unfairly stereotyped as being financially irresponsible. The reason many of them don't have savings isn't because they aren't being prudent, it's because they do not have any money to save.


You are advocating that people should buy cars with loans or on finance as opposed to saving up and buying one outright. The £300 figure is a rough guess at what it would cost per month to do this.

If you’re now saying that people can’t even afford the monthly repayments then I rest my case that they are buying items which they simply can’t afford.

Either way your argument is getting weaker.

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02 Aug 2019 18:47 #3409 by Laffy
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I think most sane people fundamentally dislike inequality-it’s a huge problem.However we clearly have many views on how to tackle it.

The Tories, and me, believe it’s possible to address by trickle down from wealth creators.We don’t think governments create value-they waste and destroy it.

The socialists think it’s possible to tax wealth creators more and redistribute it.

The problem with the Tory angle is it takes time to trickle down and most people want instant gratification which is frittered away.

The problem with the socialist angle as Mrs T pointed out is that they always run out of someone else’s money.Always has, always will.

There has to be some responsibility and accountability for those in need of help.Sitting back and just waiting for handouts is not palatable yet many get away with it.

Full employment, which is where we are now, is highlighting that even in a job, many can’t afford the basics.These people should be supported by raising tax thresholds, raising the minimum wage, and encouraging companies to distribute more value to staff through incentives.
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02 Aug 2019 19:18 - 02 Aug 2019 19:32 #3410 by thesilentone
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Dancingbear wrote:

carwash wrote:

Dancingbear wrote: Didn’t realise there were that many Welsh Jews.


The Welsh in Radnor probably hate Jeremy Corbyn because of his privileged upbringing across the border in a large manor house in Shropshire.
www.shropshirestar.com/news/2015/08/25/j...in-shropshire-manor/


Aye. It was in response to someone on the last page saying antisemetism had cost labour 12.5% share of the vote. In reality it will have had sod all to do with it.



Then perhaps you could enlighten us with your reasons why Labours vote in Wales (not just Radnor) has gone into freefall ?

There is no doubt Jezza is killing the party, however I thought Socialists were loyal.....not.
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02 Aug 2019 19:37 #3411 by orfc
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Laffy wrote: The Tories, and me, believe it’s possible to address by trickle down from wealth creators.We don’t think governments create value-they waste and destroy it.

The problem with the Tory angle is it takes time to trickle down and most people want instant gratification which is frittered away.




Well, we've had that "trickle-down" approach in football for the last 25 years. Rich clubs got richer, most of the rest scraping a living. Sounds familiar...
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02 Aug 2019 20:26 #3412 by Laffy
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It’s a bit like quantitive easing.Its created greater inequality as money usually flows to money.

The world is definitely deflating and this means more of the same

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02 Aug 2019 21:13 #3413 by Dancingbear
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thesilentone wrote:

Dancingbear wrote:

carwash wrote:

Dancingbear wrote: Didn’t realise there were that many Welsh Jews.


The Welsh in Radnor probably hate Jeremy Corbyn because of his privileged upbringing across the border in a large manor house in Shropshire.
www.shropshirestar.com/news/2015/08/25/j...in-shropshire-manor/


Aye. It was in response to someone on the last page saying antisemetism had cost labour 12.5% share of the vote. In reality it will have had sod all to do with it.



Then perhaps you could enlighten us with your reasons why Labours vote in Wales (not just Radnor) has gone into freefall ?

There is no doubt Jezza is killing the party, however I thought Socialists were loyal.....not.


At a guess id say the result was down to the Brexit parties taking votes off each other Lib dems staunchly taking the remain votes and labour managing to not convince anyone where they stand on anything rather than just anti semitism.

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03 Aug 2019 10:57 #3414 by thesilentone
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Well the evidence every Socialist needs, and should take heed of is staring you in the face.

The working classes of Wales (once a Labour heart-land) are deserting on-piece, and is no longer.

The left and Unions once again have the Party in their pocket, and it appears we will all be left to suffer as in-fighting once again destroys the Party.

Meanwhile Borris and his cronies will do what they want, un-checked.

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03 Aug 2019 11:00 #3415 by thesilentone
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orfc wrote:

Laffy wrote: The Tories, and me, believe it’s possible to address by trickle down from wealth creators.We don’t think governments create value-they waste and destroy it.

The problem with the Tory angle is it takes time to trickle down and most people want instant gratification which is frittered away.




Well, we've had that "trickle-down" approach in football for the last 25 years. Rich clubs got richer, most of the rest scraping a living. Sounds familiar...



For which you can thank the FA and it's greed " we have made the Premier League the best in the World " they forgot to add " bxxxcks to the rest of them"

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03 Aug 2019 11:30 #3416 by Dancingbear
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Do you not think that if more money did flow down we’d just end up with the same players but agents demanding higher wages and fees and clubs would no doubt pay it and be in the same situation. Prob worse infact when it goes tits up.

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03 Aug 2019 16:11 #3417 by thesilentone
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Well if the Union Reps' salary is anything to go by, you're right, the jobs tom ducked.

"Gordon Taylor is under pressure to offer a justification for his £2.2m salary as chief executive of the Professional Footballers’ Association, which last year included a £777,000 bonus.

The publication of the PFA accounts shows in 2016-17 Taylor received a basic wage of £1.2m, his bonus and £271,300 in employers’ National Insurance contributions. This is equivalent to around £6,027 a day or £42,308 a week, giving Taylor parity with many of the highest paid Premier League players he represents.

Revelations about the 73-year-old’s remuneration package have angered many within the game. It can be contrasted with the £100,000 the PFA has contributed towards concussion and head injury research in more than five years, a matter which has dominated the lives of former footballers with Alzheimer’s and dementia.


Gordon Taylor’s £2.2m pay rise: how PFA chief executive’s salary soared

Taylor’s salary has gone up £1.3m from the previous year and he also gets a £41,250 car allowance, private medical cover worth almost £9,000 and utilities’ benefits worth £2,800. The entire budget of the PFA, made up of grants and member contributions, is just under £17m."

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04 Aug 2019 01:22 #3418 by cufcmike
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franksidebottom wrote:

sirjimmyglass wrote: I know what you're getting at a lot of the time Kessler, but folk can't complain about being unable to save money and be spending £200 a month on a car finance deal.


Was just about to post exactly the same jimmyglass, they would be able to save if they didn’t have a car finance deal! Save 300 a month and in little over a year you’ve got 4K to get a decent car of your own, then you can continue saving after that for anything else you want, maybe even for a rainy day (now there’s a novel idea Kessler). The alternative is to keep on paying 300 to a finance company for the rest of you life for a car which you never actually own and have no spare money to do anything else with.


For £300 a month you'd get a very nice car on finance. For £4k the car you'd buy outright would be nowhere near as nice. I have my car on finance, don't see the point in owning it outright when the value just plummets the second you drive it out of the show room. I pay less than £300 a month and get a nice shiny new car every 3.5 years. Generally speaking I'm less likely to have things go wrong with it that need expensive repairs, as I don't have them for long enough. I can afford the repayments and it works for me. Some people can't though. I worked in a Petrol Station a few years ago and the amount of people who came in driving flashy BMWs/Mercedes/Audis who's cards would get declined for £10 worth of petrol was shocking. But they just wouldn't be seen dead in a £4k banger.

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04 Aug 2019 01:36 - 04 Aug 2019 02:07 #3419 by munchymagic
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You can get a decent car for the 2-4k mark, depends what you are after.

The only new cars I have driven were company ones, I damaged one three days after passing my test - they asked me to deliver something to CMB at James Street, some small sign it was and I requested that I use my own car and they demanded that I use one of theirs, it was a massive Peugeot and not my Ford Escort.

They all seen me do it as well and were chasing me up the road but I [censored] off back home 'sweating' to assess the damage and get the turps out to get the yellow forklift paint off the bump but I couldn't get rid of the dent with turps unfortunately.

Didn't go down too well but didn't even get told off really, just a few frowns from the bosses, especially when I said I didn't see them chasing me up the road - I did explain that I had just passed my test and you didn't listen that I was uncomfortable driving this car, I wasn't even employed to drive as it was an office based job.

(It was two company properties on private land) so wasn't a hit and run.
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04 Aug 2019 18:48 #3420 by melbourneblues
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I tell you what munchy you’ve a tale to tell about everything :-)

Mullen is a virgin.
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04 Aug 2019 19:52 #3421 by munchymagic
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melbourneblues wrote: I tell you what munchy you’ve a tale to tell about everything :-)


Nice to lighten the mood sometimes Melbourne.

The sad thing about the above story was that I got in the car then stupidly took the handbrake off and I was unaware that the car was rolling backwards whilst I was looking at what seemed to me a confusing cockpit in the car, trying to learn it whilst it was going backwards and hit the forklift.

Yeah, I shit a brick and done one thinking it was just a scuff :)
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04 Aug 2019 20:46 - 04 Aug 2019 20:57 #3422 by Laffy
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Absolutely worth reading this article in the FT-it argues that we are about to move from an era of wealth creation to wealth distribution-starting in the US

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.ft.com/conten...e9-bec9-fdcab53d6959
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05 Aug 2019 11:44 #3423 by thesilentone
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The no-deal is getting more real, if you export you need one:https://www.gov.uk/eori

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05 Aug 2019 15:19 #3424 by thesilentone
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EU problems keep mounting:

Turkey
August 4, 2019
"Turkish Interior Minister threatens the European Union with 30,000 refuges to leave Turkey per day and accused the EU for not complying with the Agreement. Interior Minister Suleyman Soylu threatens to open the Izmir rout on the Turkish West coast and “see what will happen.”

“Let’s open Izmir* now, let’s let them leave. 30 to 35 thousands people will pass daily. Let’s see what will happen. I am not threatening the EU, I’m just saying,” Soylu told reporters during a briefing in Ankara.

The minister said further that Turkey was left alone with asylum seekers from Syria.

“Within the framework of the agreement with the EU, the first tranche out of 3 billion euros in total reached €2.4 billion.There is no goodwill by the European Parliament or the European institutions. Turkey has lingered seriously by the EU. They make their own bureaucracy as an excuse. However, we did everything in our agreement. European Union countries received so far 22,000 Syrians from Turkey. Let’s open Izmir now, let’s let them leave. Daily 30-35 thousand people will pass. Let’s see what will happen if we open Izmir, Soylu said among others.

He also claimed that 8,000 Gulenists fled to Greece after the failed coup of 2016. Turkey considers Gulenists (FETO organization) to hav ebeen behind the coup."

*Izmir is a port city in the West coast of Turkey.



Swiss

"ZURICH (Reuters) - Swiss President Ueli Maurer played down prospects for quickly ending a standoff with the European Union over a stalled partnership treaty that has disrupted cross-border stock trading and strained ties with Switzerland’s main trading partner. Maurer, a member of the right-wing and EU-skeptical Swiss People’s Party, suggested no deal was likely before the current European Commission’s term expires at the end of October.

“In my view it’s not enough (time),” he told broadcaster SRF in an interview aired on Wednesday.

“It does not matter whether it is the autumn or next spring. We have time and we also need time so that we really have something that we can explain, we understand and that serves (the interests of) Switzerland,” he said.

Brussels blocked EU-based investors from trading on Swiss bourses from July 1 as the row escalated over the treaty, which would see non-EU member Switzerland routinely adopt EU single market rules. The Swiss retaliated by banning EU venues from hosting Swiss stock trading.

Swiss stock volumes have soared this month to their highest in years as the ban forced market participants onto the domestic exchange.

The fall-out from the dispute is being closely watched in Britain as a test case for how EU shares may be traded in London after the country leaves the bloc.

If no Swiss-EU treaty deal emerges while Jean-Claude Juncker is still Commission president, Maurer may end up dealing with designated Commission President and former German defense minister Ursula von der Leyen. She knows Maurer from his days as Swiss defense minister before he took over the finance ministry.

But Maurer, who holds the revolving Swiss presidency this year, dismissed suggestions that his ties to his former German counterpart could help break the logjam.

“Negotiations will not be any easier, personally it may loosen up a bit,” he said."

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05 Aug 2019 16:33 #3425 by Laffy
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Don’t forget the German economy is about to deflate,Italian banks are on life support, and the Poles and Greeks are wanting reparations from Germany for their looting in the war.

Meanwhile French bureaucrats are attempting to stop English becoming the native tongue in France.

It’s all going to blow anyway-just a matter of who pricks the balloon

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05 Aug 2019 20:06 - 05 Aug 2019 20:06 #3426 by Alan
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And some folk hang on to these helmets every word .

The trustworthy Labour Party :-D

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05 Aug 2019 20:10 #3427 by Dancingbear
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Come on Alan that still 58 times less than May said we'd be leaving on march 29th. If were still in on 1st of November they should all be jailed.

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05 Aug 2019 20:18 #3428 by Alan
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Dancingbear wrote: Come on Alan that still 58 times less than May said we'd be leaving on march 29th. If were still in on 1st of November they should all be jailed.


Agree but posting about The Maybot doesn't get as good a reaction off the leftist ,Marxist, Pin Dicks that lurk on here .
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06 Aug 2019 09:26 #3429 by thesilentone
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Why are we headlining the disruption in Hong Kong, why are we ignoring the same thing on our door step ?

Vive La France.........

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06 Aug 2019 09:31 #3430 by CCU
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Because it doesn’t tie in with the Remainer narrative of the elite...

Win or Lose, Up The Blues!

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06 Aug 2019 09:51 #3431 by thesilentone
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Dancingbear wrote: Come on Alan that still 58 times less than May said we'd be leaving on march 29th. If were still in on 1st of November they should all be jailed.



Since then, that lovely lady forced a ' meaningful vote ' for those dicks in the video above (along with some on the other side) to put UK democracy on the line.

The damage is done, the implications will be far reaching.

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06 Aug 2019 17:10 #3432 by Dancingbear
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thesilentone wrote:

Dancingbear wrote: Come on Alan that still 58 times less than May said we'd be leaving on march 29th. If were still in on 1st of November they should all be jailed.



Since then, that lovely lady forced a ' meaningful vote ' for those dicks in the video above (along with some on the other side) to put UK democracy on the line.

The damage is done, the implications will be far reaching.


She was still saying it days before she changed her mind.

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06 Aug 2019 17:56 - 06 Aug 2019 17:59 #3433 by thesilentone
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Well at least she was trying to be democratic, Parliament voted out the no deal option, and there was more chance of the Tube drivers not striking than the opposition voting for anything. Giving them the chance to vote fxxxed the job.

As it is, the withdrawal agreement was a bag of sxxte anyway.

It looks like Boris is simply going to let the clock tick, then on the 31st Oct we're out, deal or no deal, hence all the planning for a no-deal.

A deal will be done but not before the 31st Oct, and not before we leave, they're playing for time.

The EU will be offering all sorts of extensions soon, in the guise of doing us a favour.
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06 Aug 2019 18:11 #3434 by orfc
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thesilentone wrote: Well at least she was trying to be democratic, Parliament voted out the no deal option, and there was more chance of the Tube drivers not striking than the opposition voting for anything. Giving them the chance to vote fxxxed the job.

As it is, the withdrawal agreement was a bag of sxxte anyway.

It looks like Boris is simply going to let the clock tick, then on the 31st Oct we're out, deal or no deal, hence all the planning for a no-deal.

A deal will be done but not before the 31st Oct, and not before we leave, they're playing for time.

The EU will be offering all sorts of extensions soon, in the guise of doing us a favour.


What would it take for some on here to admit it's the Tories that have [censored] this up spectacularly, not the EU? Johnson wiping his arse on the queen herself? Rees-Mogg legalizing slavery?

Easiest trade deal ever my arse :-)

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06 Aug 2019 19:49 #3435 by Alan
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thesilentone wrote: Well at least she was trying to be democratic, Parliament voted out the no deal option, and there was more chance of the Tube drivers not striking than the opposition voting for anything. Giving them the chance to vote fxxxed the job.

As it is, the withdrawal agreement was a bag of sxxte anyway.

It looks like Boris is simply going to let the clock tick, then on the 31st Oct we're out, deal or no deal, hence all the planning for a no-deal.

A deal will be done but not before the 31st Oct, and not before we leave, they're playing for time.

The EU will be offering all sorts of extensions soon, in the guise of doing us a favour.


What would it take for some on here to admit it's the Tories that have [censored] this up spectacularly, not the EU? Johnson wiping his arse on the queen herself? Rees-Mogg legalizing slavery?

Easiest trade deal ever my arse :-)



May messed it up big time but its finally looks like we are getting our act together the EU are getting a tad prickley (shitting it) at the thought of us walking away a massive EU cave in is inevitable now we are playing our leave without a deal card properly .

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06 Aug 2019 20:04 #3436 by thesilentone
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orfc wrote:

thesilentone wrote: Well at least she was trying to be democratic, Parliament voted out the no deal option, and there was more chance of the Tube drivers not striking than the opposition voting for anything. Giving them the chance to vote fxxxed the job.

As it is, the withdrawal agreement was a bag of sxxte anyway.

It looks like Boris is simply going to let the clock tick, then on the 31st Oct we're out, deal or no deal, hence all the planning for a no-deal.

A deal will be done but not before the 31st Oct, and not before we leave, they're playing for time.

The EU will be offering all sorts of extensions soon, in the guise of doing us a favour.


What would it take for some on here to admit it's the Tories that have [censored] this up spectacularly, not the EU? Johnson wiping his arse on the queen herself? Rees-Mogg legalizing slavery?

Easiest trade deal ever my arse :-)



What makes you think the EU team are credible ? Why are they being so obtuse ? Now't but a bunch of chancers.

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06 Aug 2019 21:04 #3437 by orfc
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thesilentone wrote:

orfc wrote:

thesilentone wrote: Well at least she was trying to be democratic, Parliament voted out the no deal option, and there was more chance of the Tube drivers not striking than the opposition voting for anything. Giving them the chance to vote fxxxed the job.

As it is, the withdrawal agreement was a bag of sxxte anyway.

It looks like Boris is simply going to let the clock tick, then on the 31st Oct we're out, deal or no deal, hence all the planning for a no-deal.

A deal will be done but not before the 31st Oct, and not before we leave, they're playing for time.

The EU will be offering all sorts of extensions soon, in the guise of doing us a favour.


What would it take for some on here to admit it's the Tories that have [censored] this up spectacularly, not the EU? Johnson wiping his arse on the queen herself? Rees-Mogg legalizing slavery?

Easiest trade deal ever my arse :-)



What makes you think the EU team are credible ? Why are they being so obtuse ? Now't but a bunch of chancers.


Why do they have to be credible? Why didn't our tory muppets saying it was going to be the easiest thing ever factor in a bit of eu deviousness? Once again, a tory slip-up. Thanks you for providing this proof of how ill-equipped and out-manoeuvred the tories have been all the way through this farrago.

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07 Aug 2019 15:49 #3438 by Flatcap
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The reason why we are where we are is because the tories shit themselves over Ukip and then again over the Brexit party.
Nigel has really shoved one up them.

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08 Aug 2019 08:54 #3439 by High Street
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And why is that? Why did UKIP become a threat?

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09 Aug 2019 17:35 #3440 by Flatcap
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Lost tory votes to both, hence why the hard line on Brexit now.

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10 Aug 2019 19:41 #3441 by Markovitch
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Dick Braine new head of ukip

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10 Aug 2019 21:04 #3442 by Laffy
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Still waiting for your response to the report on zero hours contracts Marko.Have I missed it?

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11 Aug 2019 12:45 #3443 by currock blue
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mary hinge come second?

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13 Aug 2019 19:29 #3444 by thesilentone
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Great to see some positive news for West Cumbria, a success story, more jobs created.

A bet yon Malcolm Wilson makes a bob or two.................

www.newsandstar.co.uk/news/17834162.1-3-...-centre-cumbria-lep/

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20 Aug 2019 10:48 - 20 Aug 2019 14:04 #3445 by CCU
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BoJo serves to start the first set...


Win or Lose, Up The Blues!
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20 Aug 2019 11:02 #3446 by orfc
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So the BoJo logic is....

Deal with backstop gets rejected by parliament = british democracy in action, take that johnny foreigner

No-deal getting rejected by parliament = undemocratic actions against ze vill of ze people


I think it's incredibly unfair that he's meant to actually think of workable solutions, he only wanted to be prime minister, not deal with any of this shit :-(

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20 Aug 2019 11:03 #3447 by thesilentone
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20 Aug 2019 11:10 #3448 by orfc
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To be replaced with what?

The backstop was the fallback for the transition period when they couldn't agree anything else. Bojo is saying he wants it replaced with something he's yet to think of, never mind get people to agree to...

The bloke obviously doesn't have a clue.

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20 Aug 2019 11:46 #3449 by CCU
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First Set heading to a tie-break!


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20 Aug 2019 13:39 #3450 by thesilentone
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orfc wrote: To be replaced with what?

The backstop was the fallback for the transition period when they couldn't agree anything else. Bojo is saying he wants it replaced with something he's yet to think of, never mind get people to agree to...

The bloke obviously doesn't have a clue.



Thought they had made it clear, a electronic system, where goods are cleared in advance.

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