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22 Jun 2018 20:37 #351 by ExiledJock
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When I look to the future I always think 'I wish we were more like Chile.' FFS.

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24 Jun 2018 20:25 #352 by Northumbrian
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ExiledJock wrote: When I look to the future I always think 'I wish we were more like Chile.' FFS.

That's not what I'm saying obviously... but think about it... if a country like Chile can massively outperform the EU on negotiating trade deals then surely that says it all? Compared to Chile we should have no problem setting up our own preferential trade deals across the globe.

Face it the EU is inept at negotiating trade deals... it can't get 27 members and all of the region's within them to agree... particularly when several states, like France and Italy, are protectionist to the core. The EU is a protectionist block. Protectionism never ends well history teaches us.

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25 Jun 2018 11:46 #353 by CCU
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FAO the Remain March people...

“As we already know, at the referendum Leave won 51.89 per cent of the vote and Remain won 48.11 per cent. The Electoral Commission reports that the overall turnout was 72.21 percent. These figures imply that 34.73 per cent of the entire electorate voted to Remain.”

On that basis, Remain have absolutely zero argument in my book. Blaming it on the 27.79% who didn’t vote is merely an excuse, and a poor one at that. How do folk know what the voting intention of this number would be? There seems to be a belief that they’d all simply have voted the same!

This constant chirping and refusal to accept the result of a simple vote merely embarrasses you all.

The anger should be deflected towards those in charge (And I include Cameron as he simply upped and left a mess) for making a pigs ear of the whole episode...

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25 Jun 2018 11:59 #354 by sirjimmyglass
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CCU wrote: The anger should be deflected towards those in charge (And I include Cameron as he simply upped and left a mess) for making a pigs ear of the whole episode...


Is this not the point though? The whole thing is an absolute mess, so rather than blindly going ahead with whatever is going to happen, we make sure that the result is something that the majority are happy with?

If they negotiated a deal whereby free trade and free movement still exist, would leavers not want a chance to knock that back and say that's not what we voted for?

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25 Jun 2018 12:39 #355 by Dancingbear
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sirjimmyglass wrote:

CCU wrote: The anger should be deflected towards those in charge (And I include Cameron as he simply upped and left a mess) for making a pigs ear of the whole episode...


Is this not the point though? The whole thing is an absolute mess, so rather than blindly going ahead with whatever is going to happen, we make sure that the result is something that the majority are happy with?

If they negotiated a deal whereby free trade and free movement still exist, would leavers not want a chance to knock that back and say that's not what we voted for?


This is what gets on my tits. It was a simple enough question in or out and we voted out. We werent asked about a hard brexit a soft brexit or anything inbetween. Maybe we should have been but we werent. CCU is right, the man whos most responsible is Cameron along with his sidekick Osbourne. The people who didnt vote as probably the sensible ones who realised whatever happened thered be a total [censored] up

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25 Jun 2018 13:36 #356 by Flatcap
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It's now over 2 years since the vote.
Since then my father has died and he voted leave.
My son is nineteen, could not vote then but could vote now..
Sometimes a dead vote has more influence, even though the future generation is more affected.

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25 Jun 2018 18:16 #357 by Northumbrian
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sirjimmyglass wrote:

CCU wrote: The anger should be deflected towards those in charge (And I include Cameron as he simply upped and left a mess) for making a pigs ear of the whole episode...


Is this not the point though? The whole thing is an absolute mess, so rather than blindly going ahead with whatever is going to happen, we make sure that the result is something that the majority are happy with?

If they negotiated a deal whereby free trade and free movement still exist, would leavers not want a chance to knock that back and say that's not what we voted for?

That is a fair point ... if we were negotiating with a fair partner. However, the EU will don't use that as a get out clause to exploit... they would then be pretty much guaranteed to offer a crap deal or no deal at all knowing it would be voted out by the public. Unfortunately when negotiating with shysters like the EU there has to be that threat to leave with no deal... otherwise they won't offer one

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25 Jun 2018 18:19 #358 by Northumbrian
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Flatcap wrote: It's now over 2 years since the vote.
Since then my father has died and he voted leave.
My son is nineteen, could not vote then but could vote now..
Sometimes a dead vote has more influence, even though the future generation is more affected.

Also a fair point. But that is the same with any decision... Including the one to join the common market. It's also worth pointing out that 49% of 25 - 40 year olds voted Leave. It is not black and white.

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25 Jun 2018 19:49 #359 by munchymagic
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Northumbrian wrote:

Flatcap wrote: It's now over 2 years since the vote.
Since then my father has died and he voted leave.
My son is nineteen, could not vote then but could vote now..
Sometimes a dead vote has more influence, even though the future generation is more affected.

Also a fair point. But that is the same with any decision... Including the one to join the common market. It's also worth pointing out that 49% of 25 - 40 year olds voted Leave. It is not black and white.

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"It is not black and white"


It is though, we voted to leave so irrelevant of what opinion was at the time voted as folk are laughable saying that there were people not old enough to vote or who are now dead - did the dead peoples vote mean nothing?

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26 Jun 2018 08:25 #360 by NORTHERNSOUL
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munchymagic wrote:

Northumbrian wrote:

Flatcap wrote: It's now over 2 years since the vote.
Since then my father has died and he voted leave.
My son is nineteen, could not vote then but could vote now..
Sometimes a dead vote has more influence, even though the future generation is more affected.

Also a fair point. But that is the same with any decision... Including the one to join the common market. It's also worth pointing out that 49% of 25 - 40 year olds voted Leave. It is not black and white.

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"It is not black and white"


It is though, we voted to leave so irrelevant of what opinion was at the time voted as folk are laughable saying that there were people not old enough to vote or who are now dead - did the dead peoples vote mean nothing?


The whole thing is sham a good proportion of the people who voted leave did so to sort out the immigration yet they've done nothing no ferries booked no mass deportations of illegals and asylum seekers etc and now they've agreed to let 3.5 million Rumanians and Poles stay all for 65 quid Did no one think if they're that keen they.ll be willing to pay a whole lot more as I said at the time the figure should have been set at 25 grand. Could have funded the NHS for years to come.

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26 Jun 2018 11:30 #361 by Dancingbear
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NORTHERNSOUL wrote:

munchymagic wrote:

Northumbrian wrote:

Flatcap wrote: It's now over 2 years since the vote.
Since then my father has died and he voted leave.
My son is nineteen, could not vote then but could vote now..
Sometimes a dead vote has more influence, even though the future generation is more affected.

Also a fair point. But that is the same with any decision... Including the one to join the common market. It's also worth pointing out that 49% of 25 - 40 year olds voted Leave. It is not black and white.

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"It is not black and white"


It is though, we voted to leave so irrelevant of what opinion was at the time voted as folk are laughable saying that there were people not old enough to vote or who are now dead - did the dead peoples vote mean nothing?


The whole thing is sham a good proportion of the people who voted leave did so to sort out the immigration yet they've done nothing no ferries booked no mass deportations of illegals and asylum seekers etc and now they've agreed to let 3.5 million Rumanians and Poles stay all for 65 quid Did no one think if they're that keen they.ll be willing to pay a whole lot more as I said at the time the figure should have been set at 25 grand. Could have funded the NHS for years to come.


Youd have to be pretty bloody stupid if you did think that was ever gonna happen whichever party was in government. All theyre interested in is protecting their own positions. Hence Boris conveniently being out of the country last night.

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26 Jun 2018 11:56 #362 by sirjimmyglass
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Did you read who posted it?
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26 Jun 2018 14:39 #363 by seesaw50
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I believe many don't understand the difference between EU migrants and NON EU migrants. The non EUs is what the government has failed to get a grip on over many years no matter which party is in power...they have been frightened of the Race Card ! Now other European countries are waking up the whole free movement thing has to be reversed. The future in Europe may not be so bright...we need to do our own thing, if it means no deal fair enough. Things might be tough for a while but the country has the innovation and know how to come through...in fact the EU has been holding it back to some extent.

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26 Jun 2018 14:44 #364 by Dancingbear
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seesaw50 wrote: I believe many don't understand the difference between EU migrants and NON EU migrants. The non EUs is what the government has failed to get a grip on over many years no matter which party is in power...they have been frightened of the Race Card ! Now other European countries are waking up the whole free movement thing has to be reversed. The future in Europe may not be so bright...we need to do our own thing, if it means no deal fair enough. Things might be tough for a while but the country has the innovation and know how to come through...in fact the EU has been holding it back to some extent.


You mean people who dont realise Asia isnt part of Europe? Dont think ive met many of them to be honest.

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26 Jun 2018 14:59 #365 by orfc
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Heathrow owner moving 'cos of Brexit
news.sky.com/story/heathrow-owner-to-mov...e-to-brexit-11417186

Investment in car industry falling' cos of Brexit
www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-44609003


Don't suppose the rabid brexiteers will take any notice. If oxygen was removed because of brexit they'd insist they could do a deal with other atmospheric gases.

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26 Jun 2018 15:02 #366 by Dancingbear
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See that’s how shot we are. Why should a Spanish firm be running Heathrow in the first place. There’s no pride in the country.

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26 Jun 2018 16:31 #367 by ExiledJock
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Well, the chronology is probably that at some point the airports were privatised, and eventually ended up in Spanish hands. Doesn't matter if it's an airport or a football club, if a foreign investor wants to buy it, they generally can. It's not about pride, it's commerce. If you think having these things back in British hands is proper, you'll need to vote for a party in favour of re-nationalisation.

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26 Jun 2018 16:41 #368 by Dancingbear
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ExiledJock wrote: Well, the chronology is probably that at some point the airports were privatised, and eventually ended up in Spanish hands. Doesn't matter if it's an airport or a football club, if a foreign investor wants to buy it, they generally can. It's not about pride, it's commerce. If you think having these things back in British hands is proper, you'll need to vote for a party in favour of re-nationalisation.


Ive voted Labour in every election ive been able to. Your right it doesnt matter if its a airport or a football club but to me it bloody well should do. Key British infrastructure should be run by the British in my opinion. Doesnt make me right though.

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26 Jun 2018 16:42 #369 by Happyblue
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Dancingbear wrote: See that’s how shot we are. Why should a Spanish firm be running Heathrow in the first place. There’s no pride in the country.

That's the impact of the conservative model of privatisation, Its great in the short term everyone becomes flush with money, but eventually, that money runs, It's like selling your fishing rod for 20 fish, great at the time as you have 20 fish but when they run out you can't catch anymore.

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26 Jun 2018 18:04 - 26 Jun 2018 18:05 #370 by CumbrianView
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What is wrong with the people of London cant they not get over a result remain lost .They should follow Carlisle United i go down to Brunton Park watch them get beat come out the ground as mad as hell .But guess what im back at the next match i have got over my dissapointment.

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27 Jun 2018 13:58 #371 by High Street
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Because the people of London think the country revolves round London
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27 Jun 2018 15:11 #372 by CCU
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High Street wrote: Because the people of London think the country revolves round London


Because the people of London think London is the entire Country...

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27 Jun 2018 15:20 #373 by munchymagic
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I always remember back in the day when Belinda Carlisle got big and Smash Hits asked her if she was aware that there is a place in England called Carlisle and she said she knew as she had played there with The Go Go's and she commented that all these lovely little towns around London are great :)

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28 Jun 2018 10:50 #374 by orfc
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Nissan to stop investment in Sunderland plant 'cos of Brexit uncertainty

www.sunderlandecho.com/news/business/nis...to-reports-1-9225210

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28 Jun 2018 11:05 - 28 Jun 2018 11:05 #375 by CCU
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orfc wrote: Nissan to stop investment in Sunderland plant 'cos of Brexit uncertainty

www.sunderlandecho.com/news/business/nis...to-reports-1-9225210

Nice one, mackems


Simple, don’t buy a Nissan. :whistle:

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28 Jun 2018 12:03 #376 by Dentonholmersimpson
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Nissan made exactly the same threats if we didn't join the Euro.

All very predictable, Aerospace could move production to China, I don't know how that ties in with the great european vision.Or is it just a way of getting cheaper parts and blaming brexit.

Meanwhile Boeing announce investment of £40m in their Sheffied plant and JCB announce £50m investment in their manufacturing plant.

Let's see how many of these companies actually follow up with their threats before panicking too much.
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02 Jul 2018 05:57 #377 by CCU
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Regardless of how you voted, it sums up the whole thing when Danny Dyer makes one of the most telling comments on the whole topic...

"So what's happened to that [censored] David Cameron who brought it on? Let's be fair. How comes he can scuttle off? He called all this on.

Where is he? He's in Europe, in Nice, with his trotters up. Where is the geezer? I think he should be held accountable for it... [censored]!”


The fact that Jeremy Corbyn and Pamela Anderson were watching on just adds to the madness!

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02 Jul 2018 07:19 #378 by High Street
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And it turns out that David Cameron was in New York, that well known European capital city

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02 Jul 2018 07:40 #379 by BlueAl
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Friday, decision day for the vicars daughter. The brexit people voted or a fudge.

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02 Jul 2018 09:35 #380 by Dancingbear
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Once again I’ll stick up for Ed Milliband. Lost the election standing on a promise to not hold a referendum. Could have done what Dave the shit did. Offer one then do a runner when he didn’t get the result he wanted. Once again proving the tories will do anything to cling on to power. A strong PM would have sacked Boris and now Gove on numerous occasions but poor old Theresa can’t do owt. She couldn’t even have a pop st Trump at the G7 when all the rest of the leaders did. Absolutely feeble PM

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02 Jul 2018 11:37 #381 by Happyblue
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BlueAl wrote: Friday, decision day for the vicars daughter. The brexit people voted or a fudge.

And what is that? as they were no options on the Ballett. Is that a hard Brexit ? is it a Soft Brexit ?. As just because 51% voted to leave it doesn't mean 51% of people want a hard Brexit.

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02 Jul 2018 12:11 - 02 Jul 2018 12:11 #382 by CCU
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Happyblue wrote:

BlueAl wrote: Friday, decision day for the vicars daughter. The brexit people voted or a fudge.

And what is that? as they were no options on the Ballett. Is that a hard Brexit ? is it a Soft Brexit ?. As just because 51% voted to leave it doesn't mean 51% of people want a hard Brexit.


The question on the slip was a short one. Leave the EU or Remain. Therefore it’s all quite simple what should happen...


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02 Jul 2018 12:27 - 02 Jul 2018 12:28 #383 by Happyblue
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CCU wrote:

Happyblue wrote:

BlueAl wrote: Friday, decision day for the vicars daughter. The brexit people voted or a fudge.

And what is that? as they were no options on the Ballett. Is that a hard Brexit ? is it a Soft Brexit ?. As just because 51% voted to leave it doesn't mean 51% of people want a hard Brexit.


The question on the slip was a short one. Leave the EU or Remain. Therefore it’s all quite simple what should happen...

Is it ? As the thing is not everyone who voted to leave wants a hard Brexit , not every one who voted to leave wants a soft Brexit . Just because you have your clear view of what you want doesn't mean others share that view.

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02 Jul 2018 14:55 #384 by Flatcap
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I think most people are more aware of what Brexit means now than what they did when they voted
All promises and scare stories from both sides with little substance before the vote.

Things are such a shambles because May is the prime minister who like to kick things into the long grass all the time. Always making statements like "we'll look at it or we will review it" with little sign of real action.

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02 Jul 2018 15:20 #385 by Dancingbear
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Happyblue wrote:

CCU wrote:

Happyblue wrote:

BlueAl wrote: Friday, decision day for the vicars daughter. The brexit people voted or a fudge.

And what is that? as they were no options on the Ballett. Is that a hard Brexit ? is it a Soft Brexit ?. As just because 51% voted to leave it doesn't mean 51% of people want a hard Brexit.


The question on the slip was a short one. Leave the EU or Remain. Therefore it’s all quite simple what should happen...

Is it ? As the thing is not everyone who voted to leave wants a hard Brexit , not every one who voted to leave wants a soft Brexit . Just because you have your clear view of what you want doesn't mean others share that view.


His point is Happy no one was asked what type of brexit they wanted. In fact if you look at the question you could say it only indicates a clean break which would be a very very very hard brexit. Almost as hard as one of ParcelPetes semis. If people who voted only wanted a soft Brexit they should probably have voted to remain. As i say though the whole thing is a [censored] up by Cameron and Osbourne.

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02 Jul 2018 15:38 #386 by CCU
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Yep, Leave means Leave for me...

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02 Jul 2018 16:01 #387 by Happyblue
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Dancingbear wrote:

Happyblue wrote:

CCU wrote:

Happyblue wrote:

BlueAl wrote: Friday, decision day for the vicars daughter. The brexit people voted or a fudge.

And what is that? as they were no options on the Ballett. Is that a hard Brexit ? is it a Soft Brexit ?. As just because 51% voted to leave it doesn't mean 51% of people want a hard Brexit.


The question on the slip was a short one. Leave the EU or Remain. Therefore it’s all quite simple what should happen...

Is it ? As the thing is not everyone who voted to leave wants a hard Brexit , not every one who voted to leave wants a soft Brexit . Just because you have your clear view of what you want doesn't mean others share that view.


His point is Happy no one was asked what type of brexit they wanted. In fact if you look at the question you could say it only indicates a clean break which would be a very very very hard brexit. Almost as hard as one of ParcelPetes semis. If people who voted only wanted a soft Brexit they should probably have voted to remain. As i say though the whole thing is a [censored] up by Cameron and Osbourne.

I complete disagree, a lot of people who voted leave will have a voted that way because they wanted out but expected the country to get a deal. Just because you think that people voted Brexit meant they want a complete break doesn't make it true, same with CCU. A yes or no poll was enough to gadge what people's. The problem is if people think a clean break from Europe would ever happen , they are delluded , they're our biggest trading partner we're always going to have a deal with them.

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02 Jul 2018 16:03 #388 by Happyblue
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CCU wrote: Yep, Leave means Leave for me...

Yeah for you but not for everyone, you need to stop extrapolating your views into the majority of people just because you think, not actually know what people share them, people voted for differnt reasons, not just for the ones you had.

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02 Jul 2018 16:20 #389 by NORTHERNSOUL
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CCU wrote: Yep, Leave means Leave for me...


Leave means kick out all the asylum seekers refugees Rumanians and Poles who aren't capable of paying a £25k bond to stay.

And then just tell the EU that as of X date we.ve left and when they send us a bill for god knows what we send them one for 50 of protection provided by our nuclear deterrent.

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02 Jul 2018 16:30 #390 by Lancs blue
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NORTHERNSOUL wrote:

CCU wrote: Yep, Leave means Leave for me...


Leave means kick out all the asylum seekers refugees Rumanians and Poles who aren't capable of paying a £25k bond to stay.

And then just tell the EU that as of X date we.ve left and when they send us a bill for god knows what we send them one for 50 of protection provided by our nuclear deterrent.


Not exactly what was on the ballot paper though?

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02 Jul 2018 16:35 #391 by Happyblue
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NORTHERNSOUL wrote:

CCU wrote: Yep, Leave means Leave for me...


Leave means kick out all the asylum seekers refugees Rumanians and Poles who aren't capable of paying a £25k bond to stay.

And then just tell the EU that as of X date we.ve left and when they send us a bill for god knows what we send them one for 50 of protection provided by our nuclear deterrent.

You do realise France has nuclear weapons, a significantly higher stockpile than us , We also use their nuclear defence system . Also as if our 200 rumoured stock pile , scares Russia with a rumoured 6800, We wouldn't even make a dent .

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02 Jul 2018 16:37 #392 by NORTHERNSOUL
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Lancs blue wrote:

NORTHERNSOUL wrote:

CCU wrote: Yep, Leave means Leave for me...


Leave means kick out all the asylum seekers refugees Rumanians and Poles who aren't capable of paying a £25k bond to stay.

And then just tell the EU that as of X date we.ve left and when they send us a bill for god knows what we send them one for 50 of protection provided by our nuclear deterrent.


Not exactly what was on the ballot paper though?


But its what people like Farage and Arron Banks were promised to keep them on board during the campaign and to keep Banks money flowing in

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02 Jul 2018 16:51 #393 by NORTHERNSOUL
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Happyblue wrote:

NORTHERNSOUL wrote:

CCU wrote: Yep, Leave means Leave for me...


Leave means kick out all the asylum seekers refugees Rumanians and Poles who aren't capable of paying a £25k bond to stay.

And then just tell the EU that as of X date we.ve left and when they send us a bill for god knows what we send them one for 50 of protection provided by our nuclear deterrent.

You do realise France has nuclear weapons, a significantly higher stockpile than us , We also use their nuclear defence system . Also as if our 200 rumoured stock pile , scares Russia with a rumoured 6800, We wouldn't even make a dent .


Yes the frogs do but none of the other 26 does and as it happens its the other way round because our subs link into the US system that the frogs don't and we then pass on information that system provides us with to them

Clearly, you don't understand how a nuclear deterrent works you only need half a dozen mobile warheads that the opposition believe are viable and unless they're willing to sacrifice their capital city and its population it will work as a deterrent unless of course, they think they have a defence system that could stop them unfortunately for the Russkies theirs went up in flames with the first space station at just about the same time the USSR was imploding and its pretty clear that Putin believes his warheads would put the same deterrent on us and therefore hasn't bothered to finance the development of a new one.

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02 Jul 2018 17:03 #394 by Happyblue
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NORTHERNSOUL wrote:

Happyblue wrote:

NORTHERNSOUL wrote:

CCU wrote: Yep, Leave means Leave for me...


Leave means kick out all the asylum seekers refugees Rumanians and Poles who aren't capable of paying a £25k bond to stay.

And then just tell the EU that as of X date we.ve left and when they send us a bill for god knows what we send them one for 50 of protection provided by our nuclear deterrent.

You do realise France has nuclear weapons, a significantly higher stockpile than us , We also use their nuclear defence system . Also as if our 200 rumoured stock pile , scares Russia with a rumoured 6800, We wouldn't even make a dent .


Yes the frogs do but none of the other 26 does and as it happens its the other way round because our subs link into the US system that the frogs don't and we then pass on information that system provides us with to them

Clearly, you don't understand how a nuclear deterrent works you only need half a dozen mobile warheads that the opposition believe are viable and unless they're willing to sacrifice their capital city and its population it will work as a deterrent unless of course, they think they have a defence system that could stop them unfortunately for the Russkies theirs went up in flames with the first space station at just about the same time the USSR was imploding and its pretty clear that Putin believes his warheads would put the same deterrent on us and therefore hasn't bothered to finance the development of a new one.

I don't think Putin really gives a shit about us in all honesty, His main enemy is the USA, Also with the land area of Russia of Nukes would be downed before they even got close. Also I've read up on this. Also were under the PAAMS (maybe improve your research) A reason exists why or defence system is in France as we would be unable to retaliate quickly enough otherwise.

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02 Jul 2018 18:15 #395 by munchymagic
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It was a vote of - IN/OUT.

We are now going through the red tape of sorting it out, no biggie.

The people still angry about democracy should channel their anger into making a better independent Britain.

In the end both sides, stay or remain will lose out in perks here and there - this was always going to happen.

Fewer cheap labour coming in and food prices rising because of it, I shall not be complaining for one by paying extra for food to keep some brit off the dole to be able to provide for their family and shame on any one of you that thinks otherwise.

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02 Jul 2018 18:32 #396 by Dancingbear
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Happyblue wrote:

Dancingbear wrote:

Happyblue wrote:

CCU wrote:

Happyblue wrote:

BlueAl wrote: Friday, decision day for the vicars daughter. The brexit people voted or a fudge.

And what is that? as they were no options on the Ballett. Is that a hard Brexit ? is it a Soft Brexit ?. As just because 51% voted to leave it doesn't mean 51% of people want a hard Brexit.


The question on the slip was a short one. Leave the EU or Remain. Therefore it’s all quite simple what should happen...

Is it ? As the thing is not everyone who voted to leave wants a hard Brexit , not every one who voted to leave wants a soft Brexit . Just because you have your clear view of what you want doesn't mean others share that view.


His point is Happy no one was asked what type of brexit they wanted. In fact if you look at the question you could say it only indicates a clean break which would be a very very very hard brexit. Almost as hard as one of ParcelPetes semis. If people who voted only wanted a soft Brexit they should probably have voted to remain. As i say though the whole thing is a [censored] up by Cameron and Osbourne.

I complete disagree, a lot of people who voted leave will have a voted that way because they wanted out but expected the country to get a deal. Just because you think that people voted Brexit meant they want a complete break doesn't make it true, same with CCU. A yes or no poll was enough to gadge what people's. The problem is if people think a clean break from Europe would ever happen , they are delluded , they're our biggest trading partner we're always going to have a deal with them.


You can disagree all you like but the only option was in or out. I haven’t even said here how I voted. If you want to blame anyone blame the people who organised the vote.

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02 Jul 2018 18:57 #397 by CCU
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CCU wrote: Yep, Leave means Leave for me...

Yeah for you but not for everyone, you need to stop extrapolating your views into the majority of people just because you think, not actually know what people share them, people voted for differnt reasons, not just for the ones you had.


The only view I’ve given is that I personally voted Leave, as the question was should we Leave the EU!

leave

verb

1.
go away from.

"she left London on June 6"

synonyms: depart from, go away from, go from, withdraw from, retire from, take oneself off from, exit from, take one's leave of, pull out of, quit, be gone from, decamp from, disappear from, abandon, vacate, absent oneself from, evacuate;


They should’ve worded the Ballot differently then!

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02 Jul 2018 19:03 #398 by Happyblue
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CCU wrote:

Happyblue wrote:

CCU wrote: Yep, Leave means Leave for me...

Yeah for you but not for everyone, you need to stop extrapolating your views into the majority of people just because you think, not actually know what people share them, people voted for differnt reasons, not just for the ones you had.


The only view I’ve given is that I personally voted Leave, as the question was should we Leave the EU!

leave

verb

1.
go away from.

"she left London on June 6"

synonyms: depart from, go away from, go from, withdraw from, retire from, take oneself off from, exit from, take one's leave of, pull out of, quit, be gone from, decamp from, disappear from, abandon, vacate, absent oneself from, evacuate;


They should’ve worded the Ballot differently then!

You can leave and still have a deal, it's doesn't mean we're not leaving . I assume you don't share Northernsoul idea what leaving meant ? My point is that if you actually had a option soft Brexit or hard Brexit based, soft Brexit in my view would win.

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02 Jul 2018 19:22 - 02 Jul 2018 19:27 #399 by NORTHERNSOUL
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Happyblue wrote:

CCU wrote:

Happyblue wrote:

CCU wrote: Yep, Leave means Leave for me...

Yeah for you but not for everyone, you need to stop extrapolating your views into the majority of people just because you think, not actually know what people share them, people voted for differnt reasons, not just for the ones you had.


The only view I’ve given is that I personally voted Leave, as the question was should we Leave the EU!

leave

verb

1.
go away from.

"she left London on June 6"

synonyms: depart from, go away from, go from, withdraw from, retire from, take oneself off from, exit from, take one's leave of, pull out of, quit, be gone from, decamp from, disappear from, abandon, vacate, absent oneself from, evacuate;


They should’ve worded the Ballot differently then!

You can leave and still have a deal, it's doesn't mean we're not leaving . I assume you don't share Northernsoul idea what leaving meant ? My point is that if you actually had a option soft Brexit or hard Brexit based, soft Brexit in my view would win.


And what exactly would be the [censored] point in that? The Cu.nts need teaching a lesson something Big Nige would have done in about 10 minutes and you can be sure it would have been them handing over the dosh, not us.

What the hell is the point of sending people to negotiate on our behalf who didn't even vote for that side of the argument in the first place?

Where did it ever say anywhere before the vote that an out vote would mean two years of pissing about if we had a government with anything like balls we would of just told them to get fu cked and got on with signing deals with the rest of the world and I can tell you what I know who'd of come crawling back first and it wouldn't of been us.
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02 Jul 2018 19:43 #400 by Bruntonpasty
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If a soft Brexit means staying in the customs union and allowing the continuation of free movement but without any say in changes to such things, then i'll take the hard Brexit every day.

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