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11 Sep 2019 19:56 #4751 by orfc
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orfc wrote: ""Boris Johnson is the first prime minister to have been found by a court to have misled a king or queen.""


Been pointed out by Farage on the Andrew Neill show just aired on BBC 2 that the Scottish judges have nothing to base their decision on, as no precedent.


They based their decision on the evidence provided and thus it now becomes the precedent

If you could never have a ruling with no precedent, then there'd never be any rulings.

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11 Sep 2019 20:15 #4752 by seesaw50
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What evidence?

The naysayers say his plan was to avoid questions and forge ahead with no deal and crucially has deceived the Queen
The Government say it is normal to suspend to prepare the Queens Speech, and happens with every new government.
One word against the other...what evidence do the non believers really have

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11 Sep 2019 20:50 #4753 by sirjimmyglass
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These Yellowhammer documents prepared not by lefty loonies, snowflakes, the liberati, Comrade Corybn, Scottish Judges or whoever else you want to blame. They were prepared by Johnson's own government.

The hard Brexiteer stance of completely denying that these things are a real possibility (or trying to cover them up to force it through despite all the evidence) is now just plain weird.

But this is what we voted for! [censored] off.
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11 Sep 2019 21:11 #4754 by Alan
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sirjimmyglass wrote:



Well, well, well!



Joanna Cherry another SNP rambling bore (sound like someone on here)
Judges probably caved in and give her her way just to get rid.

Don't get your hopes up remoaners BTW this gets chucked out next week it's a parliamentary issue not anything to do with law.

Another waste of time and money ahoy.
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11 Sep 2019 21:26 #4755 by orfc
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These Yellowhammer documents prepared not by lefty loonies, snowflakes, the liberati, Comrade Corybn, Scottish Judges or whoever else you want to blame. They were prepared by Johnson's own government.

The hard Brexiteer stance of completely denying that these things are a real possibility (or trying to cover them up to force it through despite all the evidence) is now just plain weird.

But this is what we voted for! [censored] off.


It's a psychological condition with these lads now, they've invested too much in the unicorns and too much face to lose


Yellowhammer: "Low income groups will be disproportionately affected by any price rises in food and fuel.”

Sticking it to the liberal elite alright
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11 Sep 2019 21:30 #4756 by sirjimmyglass
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Johnson and his associates stand to make billions of pounds from No Deal Brexit? Who'd have thought it.
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11 Sep 2019 21:43 #4757 by Chilledsilly
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Lets assume they get their no deal brexit...cutting trading with our nearest neignours..and the toffs can do their deals around the world...
Do we think it's a good idea to be carting spuds veg cars etc from the other side of the world with our climate change problems ??
Oh wait a minute that wont be a problem because wer recycling our plastics and cardboard..?

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11 Sep 2019 21:53 #4758 by Alan

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11 Sep 2019 23:43 #4759 by munchymagic
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In no way is this report one sided - the only bit they missed off is that anyone under five or over eighty will perish if we dare leave the EU.

www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/fears-of-n...r-AAH9rTR?li=BBoPWjQ

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12 Sep 2019 07:18 #4760 by Alan
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No wonder the Kinnocks love you remoaners .
I rather starve then give samp life another penny of my cash.

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12 Sep 2019 07:22 #4761 by Markovitch
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Hopefully brexit will give you that opportunity

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12 Sep 2019 07:36 #4762 by CCU
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Interesting listening when they speak to folk with actual front line experience of issues surrounding Brexit:


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12 Sep 2019 08:06 #4763 by griff
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That’s a good listen CCU. This could actually be a Millenium bug scenario where everyone expects chaos but, when it happens, it’s hardly noticeable. The point is that politicians are spreading the doom and gloom message for their own political ends. The only problem with Brexit is politics.

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12 Sep 2019 09:03 #4764 by sirjimmyglass
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I have no reason to disbelieve that gentleman, but if he's correct why isn't this being shouted from the rooftops? If he's right, great, anyone worried about the delays in foods and medicines can have their fears allayed.

You have to admit though that it is odd that the government's own report about the expected impact of no deal talks about those things, if the issues aren't actually there.

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12 Sep 2019 09:14 #4765 by CCU
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sirjimmyglass wrote: I have no reason to disbelieve that gentleman, but if he's correct why isn't this being shouted from the rooftops?


Because it doesn’t fit the narrative of the Remainers ‘Project Fear v3927’...

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12 Sep 2019 09:19 #4766 by sirjimmyglass
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CCU wrote:

sirjimmyglass wrote: I have no reason to disbelieve that gentleman, but if he's correct why isn't this being shouted from the rooftops?


Because it doesn’t fit the narrative of the Remainers ‘Project Fear v3927’...


Truly, truly pathetic.

Are Johnson's government part of project fear now that they've finally been forced to publish their own report (that they've been trying to hide) that says exactly the same thing that remainers have been saying for years?

Honestly I don't believe you actually believe that's an appropriate response.

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12 Sep 2019 09:22 #4767 by feckwittery
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CCU wrote:

sirjimmyglass wrote: I have no reason to disbelieve that gentleman, but if he's correct why isn't this being shouted from the rooftops?


Because it doesn’t fit the narrative of the Remainers ‘Project Fear v3927’...Because those trying to force through a no deal exit, don't believe it either.

Corrected that for you.

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12 Sep 2019 09:46 #4768 by orfc
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I like the way the brexiteers on here have moved on from "Brexit will be great" to "it won't be the end of the world". Bit of a subtle shift detected there.
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12 Sep 2019 09:51 #4769 by Dentonholmersimpson
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For those of us old enough to have lived through government predictions in the past, I would hazard a guess there will be some short term disruption but a bit of proportion is required.

The chairperson of the Retail Consortium predicting a shortage of lettuce and tomatoes from the EU.

Translated into remainer speak and we are all going to starve to death, so don't go buying any christmas presents.

Ironically, Labour MP on telly this morning saying they never believe a word this government say, yet take this worst case preparation document as gospel.
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12 Sep 2019 09:59 - 12 Sep 2019 10:00 #4770 by feckwittery
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Dentonholmersimpson wrote: yet take this worst case preparation document as gospel.

Yellowhammer isn't the worst case scenario document, that's still hidden.
Yellowhammer is the expected baseline scenario. Subtle difference.
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12 Sep 2019 10:02 #4771 by Dentonholmersimpson
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feckwittery wrote:

Dentonholmersimpson wrote: yet take this worst case preparation document as gospel.

Yellowhammer isn't the worst case scenario document, that's still hidden.
Yellowhammer is the expected baseline scenario. Subtle difference.


Alledgedly, from a journalist.

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12 Sep 2019 10:36 #4772 by sirjimmyglass
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Dentonholmersimpson wrote: For those of us old enough to have lived through government predictions in the past, I would hazard a guess there will be some short term disruption but a bit of proportion is required.

The chairperson of the Retail Consortium predicting a shortage of lettuce and tomatoes from the EU.

Translated into remainer speak and we are all going to starve to death, so don't go buying any christmas presents.

Ironically, Labour MP on telly this morning saying they never believe a word this government say, yet take this worst case preparation document as gospel.


Allegedly, from a politician.

Your broader point is right mind, you shouldn't trust any of them on anything at the moment. History will not look back fondly on any of the current batch of self-serving politicians.

This stuff about Johnson, JRM etc making loads of money from Brexit is terribly damning, but it would be incredibly naive to think there aren't politicians who have bet on the other side of the coin.

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12 Sep 2019 10:42 #4773 by Dentonholmersimpson
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sirjimmyglass wrote:

Dentonholmersimpson wrote: For those of us old enough to have lived through government predictions in the past, I would hazard a guess there will be some short term disruption but a bit of proportion is required.

The chairperson of the Retail Consortium predicting a shortage of lettuce and tomatoes from the EU.

Translated into remainer speak and we are all going to starve to death, so don't go buying any christmas presents.

Ironically, Labour MP on telly this morning saying they never believe a word this government say, yet take this worst case preparation document as gospel.


Allegedly, from a politician.

Your broader point is right mind, you shouldn't trust any of them on anything at the moment. History will not look back fondly on any of the current batch of self-serving politicians.

This stuff about Johnson, JRM etc making loads of money from Brexit is terribly damning, but it would be incredibly naive to think there aren't politicians who have bet on the other side of the coin.


Something both sides of the Brexit divide can agree on, perhaps we should all get together and form an anti bent politician party.

For those MP's left they could then knock down the decrepit Houses of Parliament and hold any parliamentary business in a telephone box.
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12 Sep 2019 10:44 - 12 Sep 2019 10:45 #4774 by orfc
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Dentonholmersimpson wrote: For those of us old enough to have lived through government predictions in the past, I would hazard a guess there will be some short term disruption but a bit of proportion is required.

The chairperson of the Retail Consortium predicting a shortage of lettuce and tomatoes from the EU.

Translated into remainer speak and we are all going to starve to death, so don't go buying any christmas presents.

Ironically, Labour MP on telly this morning saying they never believe a word this government say, yet take this worst case preparation document as gospel.


It's not worst case, it's the same document as was leaked to the sunday times a month ago, the only changes being item 15 blacked out (2,000 jobs to go at oil refineries) and the title changes from base scenario to reasonable worst case




Brexit is now undeniably a broken shit show, (along with Johnson); those deniers still hanging-on have, as I said above, a psychological rather than logical basis for sticking to believing
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12 Sep 2019 10:49 #4775 by CCU
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Boris says he didn’t lie...


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12 Sep 2019 10:56 #4776 by Dentonholmersimpson
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orfc wrote:

Dentonholmersimpson wrote: For those of us old enough to have lived through government predictions in the past, I would hazard a guess there will be some short term disruption but a bit of proportion is required.

The chairperson of the Retail Consortium predicting a shortage of lettuce and tomatoes from the EU.

Translated into remainer speak and we are all going to starve to death, so don't go buying any christmas presents.

Ironically, Labour MP on telly this morning saying they never believe a word this government say, yet take this worst case preparation document as gospel.


It's not worst case, it's the same document as was leaked to the sunday times a month ago, the only changes being item 15 blacked out (2,000 jobs to go at oil refineries) and the title changes from base scenario to reasonable worst case




Brexit is now undeniably a broken shit show, (along with Johnson); those deniers still hanging-on have, as I said above, a psychological rather than logical basis for sticking to believing


Thanks, you have just confirmed what I said, it has been alleged by a journalist.

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12 Sep 2019 11:01 - 12 Sep 2019 11:07 #4777 by feckwittery
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Dentonholmersimpson wrote:

feckwittery wrote:

Dentonholmersimpson wrote: yet take this worst case preparation document as gospel.

Yellowhammer isn't the worst case scenario document, that's still hidden.
Yellowhammer is the expected baseline scenario. Subtle difference.


Alledgedly, from a journalist.


Involvement with this sort of planning in a previous life leaves little doubt Yellowhammer isn't the only plan nor will it be the actual worst case disaster scenario 'planned' for (Such plans can be very eyebrow raising indeed).

Yellowhammer was at one point the governments working plan (ie the one they expect to be most likely) but strangely they are refusing to say whether it still is.
Do you not think if they were now working to a assumed scenario with a brighter outlook they'd say so?

Do you not think, if they were still working to the now revealed scenario (where several industries are decimated, businesses are plunged in to chaos, the economy is tanked, the peoples of the UK have their standard of living severely impacted and the lower-income families are pushed over the precipice), which you, all the other no deal wankfesters and this mythical majority think is perfectly acceptable, they would say so?

Yellowhammer was the expected baseline. It may still be or they are working to something with a poorer outcome still, because if it was brighter, they'd be shouting it from the rooftops. That's how it works.
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12 Sep 2019 11:10 #4778 by orfc
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Dentonholmersimpson wrote:

orfc wrote:

Dentonholmersimpson wrote: For those of us old enough to have lived through government predictions in the past, I would hazard a guess there will be some short term disruption but a bit of proportion is required.

The chairperson of the Retail Consortium predicting a shortage of lettuce and tomatoes from the EU.

Translated into remainer speak and we are all going to starve to death, so don't go buying any christmas presents.

Ironically, Labour MP on telly this morning saying they never believe a word this government say, yet take this worst case preparation document as gospel.


It's not worst case, it's the same document as was leaked to the sunday times a month ago, the only changes being item 15 blacked out (2,000 jobs to go at oil refineries) and the title changes from base scenario to reasonable worst case




Brexit is now undeniably a broken shit show, (along with Johnson); those deniers still hanging-on have, as I said above, a psychological rather than logical basis for sticking to believing


Thanks, you have just confirmed what I said, it has been alleged by a journalist.


No alleged about it, here's the article for August 18th, the bit the times gives you free confirms the change in title
www.thetimes.co.uk/article/no-deal-brexi...r-document-797qxkrcm


The Sunday Times isn't exactly known for tabloid bullshitting and is so conservative it makes Rory Stewart look like Corbyn

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12 Sep 2019 11:36 #4779 by sirjimmyglass
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feckwittery wrote: Yellowhammer was the expected baseline. It may still be or they are working to something with a poorer outcome still, because if it was brighter, they'd be shouting it from the rooftops. That's how it works


I don't get why this is a difficult point to grasp.

Every time of remoaner goes on their fake news, snowflake rampage, shut them down with the actual findings that you have. Or don't, because you can't.

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12 Sep 2019 12:49 #4780 by High Street
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Alan wrote:

sirjimmyglass wrote:



Well, well, well!



Joanna Cherry another SNP rambling bore (sound like someone on here)
Judges probably caved in and give her her way just to get rid.

Don't get your hopes up remoaners BTW this gets chucked out next week it's a parliamentary issue not anything to do with law.

Another waste of time and money ahoy.


It was crowdfunded, just like Salmond’s legal case for sexual offences.
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12 Sep 2019 14:58 - 12 Sep 2019 14:58 #4781 by CCU
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2-1 to the Leavers?!



Not getting the same coverage for some reason?!

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12 Sep 2019 17:49 #4782 by Alan
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If you think Yellowhammer is going to be a living hell wait till you see what happens if the will of 17m plus people is overturned.

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12 Sep 2019 18:13 #4783 by ExiledJock
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Remember that old philosophical game - would you press a button for a million pounds if it meant someone in China dropped dead?

Brexit is a bit like that. Presumably it's OK if someone else is affected, just not me or anyone else I know.
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12 Sep 2019 18:43 - 12 Sep 2019 18:55 #4784 by feckwittery
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Alan wrote: If you think Yellowhammer is going to be a living hell wait till you see what happens if the will of 17m plus people is overturned.

3 men and a dog will turn up, big nige will [censored] off after quarter of an hour. We've seen the massive actions that were promised before by 'leave'.

17million, the 65m+ population dwarfs that. Democracy is more than a poor interuptation of a dodgy advisory vote 3 years prior.

There's no mandate for no deal, whichever way you slice it, and certainly no majority.
Parliament is our democracy.
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12 Sep 2019 18:56 #4785 by Dentonholmersimpson
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feckwittery wrote:

Alan wrote: If you think Yellowhammer is going to be a living hell wait till you see what happens if the will of 17m plus people is overturned.

3 men and a dog will turn up, big nige will [censored] off after quarter of an hour. We've seen the massive actions that were promised before by 'leave'.

17million, the 65m+ population dwarfs that. Democracy is more than a poor interuptation of a dodgy advisory vote 3 years prior.

There's no mandate for no deal, whichever why you slice it, and certainly no majority.
Parliament is our democracy.


I think you will find, the genie is well and truly out of the bottle and no amount of attempts to reverse the result, is going to stuff it back in.

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12 Sep 2019 18:56 #4786 by Alan
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feckwittery wrote:

Alan wrote: If you think Yellowhammer is going to be a living hell wait till you see what happens if the will of 17m plus people is overturned.

3 men and a dog will turn up, big nige will [censored] off after quarter of an hour. We've seen the massive actions that were promised before by 'leave'.

17million, the 65m+ population dwarfs that. Democracy is more than a poor interuptation of a dodgy advisory vote 3 years prior.

There's no mandate for no deal, whichever why you slice it, and certainly no majority.
Parliament is our democracy.


The voting population is just over 40 million BTW.
But don't let the truth get in the way of good old remoaner bluster
It's your trademark.

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12 Sep 2019 19:02 - 12 Sep 2019 19:05 #4787 by feckwittery
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Alan wrote:

feckwittery wrote:

Alan wrote: If you think Yellowhammer is going to be a living hell wait till you see what happens if the will of 17m plus people is overturned.

3 men and a dog will turn up, big nige will [censored] off after quarter of an hour. We've seen the massive actions that were promised before by 'leave'.

17million, the 65m+ population dwarfs that. Democracy is more than a poor interuptation of a dodgy advisory vote 3 years prior.

There's no mandate for no deal, whichever why you slice it, and certainly no majority.
Parliament is our democracy.


The voting population is just over 40 million BTW.
But don't let the truth get in the way of good old remoaner bluster
It's your trademark.


So by your own admission less than half.

Psst: Democracy and Parliament represent them all, regardless of electoral status.
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12 Sep 2019 19:03 #4788 by Chilledsilly
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I would have thought 3 years is more than enough time for this rabble of a party to come up with a deal ( the easiest deal they'll ever make was the spin, pre referendum)
Democracy has had its chance .....now it's time for democracy to play it's part again, and say where do we go from here now they have failed...
And I wouldn't go relying to much on that lying eejit to sort it out.

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12 Sep 2019 19:04 #4789 by Bruntonpasty
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But even less voted to remain? or did you conveniently miss that?

They don't like it up 'em!
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12 Sep 2019 19:06 #4790 by Alan
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feckwittery wrote:

Alan wrote:

feckwittery wrote:

Alan wrote: If you think Yellowhammer is going to be a living hell wait till you see what happens if the will of 17m plus people is overturned.

3 men and a dog will turn up, big nige will [censored] off after quarter of an hour. We've seen the massive actions that were promised before by 'leave'.

17million, the 65m+ population dwarfs that. Democracy is more than a poor interuptation of a dodgy advisory vote 3 years prior.

There's no mandate for no deal, whichever why you slice it, and certainly no majority.
Parliament is our democracy.


The voting population is just over 40 million BTW.
But don't let the truth get in the way of good old remoaner bluster
It's your trademark.


So by your own admission less than half.

Psst: Democracy and Parliament represent them all, regardless of electoral status.


It wasn't an advisory vote either.

(yet more remoaner bluster)
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12 Sep 2019 19:08 - 12 Sep 2019 19:13 #4791 by munchymagic
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feckwittery wrote:

Alan wrote: If you think Yellowhammer is going to be a living hell wait till you see what happens if the will of 17m plus people is overturned.

3 men and a dog will turn up, big nige will [censored] off after quarter of an hour. We've seen the massive actions that were promised before by 'leave'.

17million, the 65m+ population dwarfs that. Democracy is more than a poor interuptation of a dodgy advisory vote 3 years prior.

There's no mandate for no deal, whichever way you slice it, and certainly no majority.
Parliament is our democracy.


This excerpt from Yellowhammer is so condescending.

"A no-deal Brexit could result in rising food and fuel prices, disruption to medicine supplies and public disorder on Britain’s streets"

A poor deal or staying in the EU could fuel the same scenario regarding public order - who on earth do these politicians think they are?

Note the use of 'could' used figuratively in that line as well.
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12 Sep 2019 19:11 #4792 by feckwittery
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No, I understand niether side 'won' though and Parliament's duty.

And the shite that's going in at the moment is little to do with brexit. It's about Boris and his puppetmasters trying to circumvent Parliament and save their own hides, whilst shafting millions of on all sides.

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12 Sep 2019 19:15 #4793 by feckwittery
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Alan wrote:

feckwittery wrote:

Alan wrote:

feckwittery wrote:

Alan wrote: If you think Yellowhammer is going to be a living hell wait till you see what happens if the will of 17m plus people is overturned.

3 men and a dog will turn up, big nige will [censored] off after quarter of an hour. We've seen the massive actions that were promised before by 'leave'.

17million, the 65m+ population dwarfs that. Democracy is more than a poor interuptation of a dodgy advisory vote 3 years prior.

There's no mandate for no deal, whichever why you slice it, and certainly no majority.
Parliament is our democracy.


The voting population is just over 40 million BTW.
But don't let the truth get in the way of good old remoaner bluster
It's your trademark.


So by your own admission less than half.

Psst: Democracy and Parliament represent them all, regardless of electoral status.


It wasn't an advisory vote either.

(yet more remoaner bluster)

Every [censored] UK national referendum is an advisory vote. It's written in statue. Feel free to look it up.

"But big dave said...." oh pluhease
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12 Sep 2019 19:16 #4794 by munchymagic
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feckwittery wrote: No, I understand niether side 'won' though and Parliament's duty.

And the shite that's going in at the moment is little to do with brexit. It's about Boris and his puppetmasters trying to circumvent Parliament and save their own hides, whilst shafting millions of on all sides.


Boris isn't shafting anyone.

If anything he is carrying out the will of the voters who gained the majority at the referendum.

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12 Sep 2019 19:20 #4795 by Alan
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feckwittery wrote:

Alan wrote:

feckwittery wrote:

Alan wrote:

feckwittery wrote:

Alan wrote: If you think Yellowhammer is going to be a living hell wait till you see what happens if the will of 17m plus people is overturned.

3 men and a dog will turn up, big nige will [censored] off after quarter of an hour. We've seen the massive actions that were promised before by 'leave'.

17million, the 65m+ population dwarfs that. Democracy is more than a poor interuptation of a dodgy advisory vote 3 years prior.

There's no mandate for no deal, whichever why you slice it, and certainly no majority.
Parliament is our democracy.


The voting population is just over 40 million BTW.
But don't let the truth get in the way of good old remoaner bluster
It's your trademark.


So by your own admission less than half.

Psst: Democracy and Parliament represent them all, regardless of electoral status.


It wasn't an advisory vote either.

(yet more remoaner bluster)

Every [censored] UK national referendum is an advisory vote. It's written in statue. Feel free to look it up.

"But big dave said...." oh pluhease



Yep his mentions advisory several times in this speech to the nation doesn't he.


3.56 is pretty damming sadly not in remoaners tiny thought processes though

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12 Sep 2019 19:22 #4796 by Dentonholmersimpson
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feckwittery wrote:

Alan wrote:

feckwittery wrote:

Alan wrote:

feckwittery wrote:

Alan wrote: If you think Yellowhammer is going to be a living hell wait till you see what happens if the will of 17m plus people is overturned.

3 men and a dog will turn up, big nige will [censored] off after quarter of an hour. We've seen the massive actions that were promised before by 'leave'.

17million, the 65m+ population dwarfs that. Democracy is more than a poor interuptation of a dodgy advisory vote 3 years prior.

There's no mandate for no deal, whichever why you slice it, and certainly no majority.
Parliament is our democracy.


The voting population is just over 40 million BTW.
But don't let the truth get in the way of good old remoaner bluster
It's your trademark.


So by your own admission less than half.

Psst: Democracy and Parliament represent them all, regardless of electoral status.


It wasn't an advisory vote either.

(yet more remoaner bluster)

Every [censored] UK national referendum is an advisory vote. It's written in statue. Feel free to look it up.

"But big dave said...." oh pluhease


Advisory or not, the vast majority of MPs voted for article 50 and to leave the EU.

And the vast majority never had any intention of letting us leave.

Hardly and Labour MPs voted for the withdrawl agreement, yet if Jezza had put forward the exact same deal, they would have all voted for it.

Pathetic.
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12 Sep 2019 19:34 #4797 by Alan
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12 Sep 2019 19:48 #4798 by feckwittery
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Alan wrote:

feckwittery wrote:

Alan wrote:

feckwittery wrote:

Alan wrote:

feckwittery wrote:

Alan wrote: If you think Yellowhammer is going to be a living hell wait till you see what happens if the will of 17m plus people is overturned.

3 men and a dog will turn up, big nige will [censored] off after quarter of an hour. We've seen the massive actions that were promised before by 'leave'.

17million, the 65m+ population dwarfs that. Democracy is more than a poor interuptation of a dodgy advisory vote 3 years prior.

There's no mandate for no deal, whichever why you slice it, and certainly no majority.
Parliament is our democracy.


The voting population is just over 40 million BTW.
But don't let the truth get in the way of good old remoaner bluster
It's your trademark.


So by your own admission less than half.

Psst: Democracy and Parliament represent them all, regardless of electoral status.


It wasn't an advisory vote either.

(yet more remoaner bluster)

Every [censored] UK national referendum is an advisory vote. It's written in statue. Feel free to look it up.

"But big dave said...." oh pluhease



Yep his mentions advisory several times in this speech to the nation doesn't he.


3.56 is pretty damming sadly not in remoaners tiny thought processes though


'Whatever the decision, he would do his best to deliver it." His best was him resigning. Big Dave's pledge fulfilled.

They all said, 'we will respect the referendum result.' It sounds good, it plays well to whichever side you are on. They are however fairly meaningless words, they've said they will respect thr referendum result.
The result of a UK referendum is a piece of advice, which doe not have to be followed by the government or Parliament even if it was, legal, clear and decisive, which it was not.
Parliament represents all of the UK's population and it's primary function is to protect the national interests.

Parliament have followed the process, Parliament have found no deal is by far and away not in the national interest, the population has never given a mandate for it, so they've quite rightly blocked it (temporarily).

You espouse our democracy, yet fail to grasp how it fundamentaly operates and are willing for it to be undermined by some of the most heinous perpetrators of one of the largest political scandals the UK has ever seen.

Of course they want a no deal, it's the only way to keep the lid from being lifted for longer.

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12 Sep 2019 20:06 #4799 by feckwittery
Replied by feckwittery on topic The Brexit Thread

munchymagic wrote: Boris isn't shafting anyone.

If anything he is carrying out the will of the voters who gained the majority at the referendum.

But as said, the referendum is advisory. It's not first past the post, no matter how much you want it to be. Less than half the electorate voted leave, none of the electorate have voted on the method of exit.
We can argue all day long if you wish but it matters not a jot. Parliament has followed the process, they've respected the referrendum advice and are still yet to make a final decision.

Incidentally, Boris (the remoaner for decades) will shaft whoever he can now he's (hopefully for him) realised he's been played like a fiddle by his masters and setup as the stooge.

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12 Sep 2019 20:07 #4800 by AlbertRoss
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Alan wrote: This article is so Beautiful.

www.thesun.co.uk/news/9911309/liam-halli...tter_impression=true



Those Sun articles are excellent. I found them quite compelling, with their denouncements of the "Liberal Elite" and the "Remainer Corporate Establishment", - The Sun set in the role of People's Champion, campaigning against the oppressive dominant elites and establishments - until I remembered who the People's Champion was who owns The Sun.

Seems it's impossible to find a commentary on "Brexit" that isn't tied to a Political Agenda of some sort.
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