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12 Sep 2019 20:20 - 12 Sep 2019 20:25 #4801 by feckwittery
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Alan wrote: This article is so Beautiful.

www.thesun.co.uk/news/9911309/liam-halli...tter_impression=true

Great, glad you think so but it's a fluff opinion piece by an ardent brexiteer. The devil's in the detail.
The will Sun flip to whichever side they think will keep their circulation up. (Try reading the Scottish edition alongside your own.)

PS I've been a tory voter all my life. I agree Corbyn would be a disaster in the long run, but that can be reversed. As can the attempt by a minority to foist a no deal exit upon the country by means outwith our democractic process.

By all means have your no deal exit, just pass it through the democractic process which has served the country for centuries.
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12 Sep 2019 20:26 #4802 by Alan
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feckwittery wrote:

Alan wrote: This article is so Beautiful.

www.thesun.co.uk/news/9911309/liam-halli...tter_impression=true

Great, glad you think so but it's a fluff opinion piece by an ardent brexiteer. The devil's in the detail.
The will Sun flip to whichever side they think will keep their circulation up.

PS I've been a tory voter all my life. I agree Corbyn would be a disaster in the long run, but that can be reversed. As can the decison by a minority to foist a no deal exit upon the country by means outwith our democractic process.

By all means have your no deal exit, just pass it through the democractic process which has served the country for centuries.



Enjoying this but have to go.

If that article is fluff Yellowhammer should be treat with the same contempt seeing as Hammond has had his grubby two penneth worth of input.

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12 Sep 2019 20:26 #4803 by Dentonholmersimpson
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feckwittery wrote:

Alan wrote: This article is so Beautiful.

www.thesun.co.uk/news/9911309/liam-halli...tter_impression=true

Great, glad you think so but it's a fluff opinion piece by an ardent brexiteer. The devil's in the detail.
The will Sun flip to whichever side they think will keep their circulation up. (Try reading the Scottish edition alongside your own.)

PS I've been a tory voter all my life. I agree Corbyn would be a disaster in the long run, but that can be reversed. As can the decison by a minority to foist a no deal exit upon the country by means outwith our democractic process.

By all means have your no deal exit, just pass it through the democractic process which has served the country for centuries.


Labour MP on telly tonight saying anywhere between 20 and 50 labour MPs could vote for a revised deal if offered, so clearly Boris's threat of a no deal is having some traction somewhere

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12 Sep 2019 21:21 #4804 by seesaw50
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feckwittery wrote:

munchymagic wrote: Boris isn't shafting anyone.

If anything he is carrying out the will of the voters who gained the majority at the referendum.

But as said, the referendum is advisory. It's not first past the post, no matter how much you want it to be. Less than half the electorate voted leave, none of the electorate have voted on the method of exit.
We can argue all day long if you wish but it matters not a jot. Parliament has followed the process, they've respected the referrendum advice and are still yet to make a final decision.

Incidentally, Boris (the remoaner for decades) will shaft whoever he can now he's (hopefully for him) realised he's been played like a fiddle by his masters and setup as the stooge.


It ceased to be advisory tho once Article 50 was put to Parliament and voted through as law.
Some MPs say "Revoke Article 50" should be a choice on any new Referendum...just the same as Remain

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12 Sep 2019 21:27 #4805 by BlueAl
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Surprise, surprise, on question time tonight we have five remainders and one brexiteer. Good old balanced beeb.

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12 Sep 2019 21:31 #4806 by seesaw50
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Surely not after last weeks debacle

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12 Sep 2019 23:43 #4807 by seesaw50
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Not half as manic as last week as it happens .

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12 Sep 2019 23:51 #4808 by feckwittery
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BlueAl wrote: Surprise, surprise, on question time tonight we have five remainders and one brexiteer. Good old balanced beeb.

Not many brexiteers worth any salt about these days, and we all know they don't like scrutiny or the spectre of reality. They'll have been invited, it's not the BBC's fault they declined or no-showed.

Besides, the good old 'biased BBC' gets plenty of moans of bias from all sides. Seems they're doing something right, even if you don't like it.
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13 Sep 2019 03:14 #4809 by High Street
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feckwittery wrote:

munchymagic wrote: Boris isn't shafting anyone.

If anything he is carrying out the will of the voters who gained the majority at the referendum.

But as said, the referendum is advisory. It's not first past the post, no matter how much you want it to be. Less than half the electorate voted leave, none of the electorate have voted on the method of exit.
We can argue all day long if you wish but it matters not a jot. Parliament has followed the process, they've respected the referrendum advice and are still yet to make a final decision.

Incidentally, Boris (the remoaner for decades) will shaft whoever he can now he's (hopefully for him) realised he's been played like a fiddle by his masters and setup as the stooge.


‘Less than half of the electorate voted to leave’. If that were the rules, then fine, but you know it wasn’t. The majority of the people that voted, voted to leave. It’s another tired cliche by remainers. It still stands then, that more people voted to leave than remain, whys is that hard to accept? You can play about with figures and percentages all you want.
Also, politicians repeatedly said that a vote to leave would mean leaving Customs Union, Single market, so how you think no deal has no mandate, is a mystery. It’s certainly what l voted for.
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13 Sep 2019 07:22 #4810 by BlueBanana
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All these moaning remainers should have got off their lazy arses and got down to the polling stations! Obviously weren't bothered about what might happen. If you don't vote you have no right to moan. Get over it
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13 Sep 2019 07:55 #4811 by BlueAl
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feckwittery wrote:

BlueAl wrote: Surprise, surprise, on question time tonight we have five remainders and one brexiteer. Good old balanced beeb.

Not many brexiteers worth any salt about these days, and we all know they don't like scrutiny or the spectre of reality. They'll have been invited, it's not the BBC's fault they declined or no-showed.

Besides, the good old 'biased BBC' gets plenty of moans of bias from all sides. Seems they're doing something right, even if you don't like it.

Are you really trying to suggest brexiteers are invited, but are scared to appear on the show?
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13 Sep 2019 09:06 - 13 Sep 2019 09:50 #4812 by feckwittery
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High Street wrote: Less than half of the electorate voted to leave’. If that were the rules, then fine, but you know it wasn’t. The majority of the people that voted, voted to leave.

Ah, the rules of a referendum. Please show where they state simple majority 'wins' (forces the decision). They don't, that's the point of them. In the UK they are advisory in their fundamental nature. The result is a piece of advice, that advice is more complex than just a simple majority of a part of the electorate. The whole referendum view is the advice, not just the portion of it that voted one way (ie they are not first past the post as per a GE)
That advice has been considered, respected and taken taken into account alongside the national interest by Parliament (as they are elected to do so), regardless of your views or your level of understanding of the process.
Want a no deal brexit? Pass it through the democratic process. Ditto Deal or Remain. So far no have, the final decision is pending.

High Street wrote: Also, politicians repeatedly said that a vote to leave would mean leaving Customs Union, Single market, so how you think no deal has no mandate, is a mystery. It’s certainly what l voted for.

Politicians said a lot of things. Leave campaigned on all sorts of exit scenarios, leaving the Customs Union/Single market but still keeping the benefits was just one lie amongst many.
I'm pleased you know what you voted for but your version leave differs from others, as their does from yours. A simple scroll back through this forum shows some simply voting Leave because Big Dave the evil tory wanted to remain, so they know what they voted for too "to stick it to the tories". No one voted on the future status after leaving. The question was "Should the United Kingdom remain a member of the European Union or leave the European Union?”.
The process of leaving is still in progress, why are leavers so dam angry about having been ignored, when they quite clearly have not?



BlueAl wrote: Are you really trying to suggest brexiteers are invited, but are scared to appear on the show?

Brexiteers are definitely invited, the BBC are mandated to do so. Feel free to submit a FOI request to find out the invitees for a particular show. You'll have to ask them why they won't/don't appear but if it quacks like a duck....
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13 Sep 2019 09:22 #4813 by sirjimmyglass
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The problem with taking anything that David Cameron said with any sort of interest is that he made a huge mistake in underestimating Eurosceptics. He thought the referendum was going to be a walk in the park so could have said absolutely anything, and he did so.

Brexiteers made a total fool out of him, so he resigned. He totally got us into this mess, and it's amazing that 3 years on it is impossible to say with any real confidence where we're actually going to end up, and when.

It's worth saying by the way that I think this thread is brilliant. It's very easy to follow the same social media accounts, read the same newspapers and websites, watch the same TV programmes and talk to your social circles about Brexit but you do so because they all agree with your point of view. Sure there is some sledging that goes on here, and the Brexiteers on here drive me up the wall, but this is most likely the only real place where you're hearing a different point of view. Long may it continue.

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13 Sep 2019 09:32 #4814 by orfc
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Vegan Forest Green owner Dale Vince is to fund a legal challenge to force Boris Johnson to ask the EU for an extension

www.stroudnewsandjournal.co.uk/news/1790...n-funded-dale-vince/


Just shows what a forward thinking football club looks like


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13 Sep 2019 09:50 #4815 by carwash
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orfc wrote: Vegan Forest Green owner Dale Vince is to fund a legal challenge to force Boris Johnson to ask the EU for an extension

www.stroudnewsandjournal.co.uk/news/1790...n-funded-dale-vince/


Just shows what a forward thinking football club looks like


:-p


Yes Forest Green Rovers, owned by Ecotricity Group Ltd and financed by completely unregulated minibonds that were bought by unsuspecting members of the public. Let's hope for the football club's sake they don't all decide to serve notice that they'd like their money back.

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13 Sep 2019 11:26 #4816 by CCU
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Meanwhile Boris gets down to Business...


Win or Lose, Up The Blues!

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13 Sep 2019 12:58 #4817 by AlbertRoss
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Well that is his job so about time!
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13 Sep 2019 14:25 - 13 Sep 2019 14:31 #4818 by feckwittery
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He can talk all he wants. Until he proposes anything other than a vague unworkable notion, the EU or the UK need not listen.
I talked to the city council about installing a zoo full of unicorns in Bitts Park, that didn't get very far either.


Boris: I want the benefits but not the bill or the some of the four basic pillars.
Junchker: To get the bennefits you must agree to the four pillars just like everyone else in the union.
Boris: I'll jist leave then.
Junchker: Your choice, good luck getting it past your own people. Until then we'll just keep extending as asked to protect the rights of 65million european citizens in the UK.
End talks
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13 Sep 2019 15:02 #4819 by High Street
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Have you got the minutes from that meeting with the council?
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13 Sep 2019 15:30 #4820 by feckwittery
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Strangely enough no, because they were 'talks'.

Needless to say, upon failing to be unable to produced any evidence of being able to procure unicorns, being unable to convince them if we flatten Bitts Park and build the unicorn zoo, they will magically appear and, the council being unwilling to provide their unicorns too; they decided to keep Bitts Park as is for the benefit of the city and it's population. They'll even let geordies and Londoners use it too.

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13 Sep 2019 16:54 #4821 by Alan
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feckwittery wrote: Strangely enough no, because they were 'talks'.

Needless to say, upon failing to be unable to produced any evidence of being able to procure unicorns, being unable to convince them if we flatten Bitts Park and build the unicorn zoo, they will magically appear and, the council being unwilling to provide their unicorns too; they decided to keep Bitts Park as is for the benefit of the city and it's population. They'll even let geordies and Londoners use it too.



Can be first to say your starting to come over as a bit of an unfunny boring tit.
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13 Sep 2019 17:40 #4822 by Markovitch
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As fantastic as one of your housing benefit claims Alge. More chance of unicorns in Carlisle than you getting a job or [censored] off back to England.
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13 Sep 2019 18:15 #4823 by Alan
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Markovitch wrote: As fantastic as one of your housing benefit claims Alge. More chance of unicorns in Carlisle than you getting a job or [censored] off back to England.


That's the boring tits are like buses theory confirmed.

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13 Sep 2019 18:43 #4824 by Markovitch
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Buses, something else you can sponge for free from hard-working Scottish people.

So when Farage starts on about immigrants sponging the benefits systems doesn't this ring any bells? Squawking on about how much you hate Scotland and Scottish people when leeching off them. Still smoking? Boris wants to deny smokers access to the NHS because illnesses are self-inflicted.
If you hate it in Scotland so much go back. No [censored] loss to us

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13 Sep 2019 18:59 #4825 by orfc
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David Cameron, who said we were definitely leaving and all that, wants a second referendum and think's BlowJob's a prick

www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/sep/13...allingly-over-brexit


There can't be many mainstream politicians left that are backing brexit now? There's only extremists and chancers left.

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13 Sep 2019 19:37 #4826 by Alan
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Markovitch wrote: Buses, something else you can sponge for free from hard-working Scottish people.

So when Farage starts on about immigrants sponging the benefits systems doesn't this ring any bells? Squawking on about how much you hate Scotland and Scottish people when leeching off them. Still smoking? Boris wants to deny smokers access to the NHS because illnesses are self-inflicted.
If you hate it in Scotland so much go back. No [censored] loss to us



Here you go pal something else for you to add a fictitious spin to


More Scots want to leave the EU than independence who knew eh!
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13 Sep 2019 19:58 #4827 by Markovitch
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Why immigration should be skills based. And why the unskilled should not be allowed in.


assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/governm...stem-print-ready.pdf

When the British people voted to leave the European Union in 2016, they sent a clear message: they wanted things to change.One of those calls was for Britain to take back control of its borders. As we leave the European Union, free movement will end. For the first time in decades, it will be the democratically elected representatives of the British people who choose who comes into our country.

Unskilled, unwashed, workshy not needed. Go home! Sponge off your country mates
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13 Sep 2019 19:59 #4828 by Alan
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Posting a positive No Deal article on here.

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13 Sep 2019 21:59 #4829 by CCU
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Hmm:


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Yesterday 16:41 #4830 by feckwittery
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Alan wrote: Can be first to say your starting to come over as a bit of an unfunny boring tit.

Sure, but I won't mention angry toddler's throwing tantrums because they're incapable of understanding why they can't have their way though. That'd be just as crass.

Gammon for dinner, bon appetite fellow European citizen.

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Today 16:27 #4831 by Alan
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The objectionable turd conveyor belt north of the Border has dumped a pearler on us in Jo Swinson and I thought the SNP had exclusive rights to such blinkered horrible people.

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Today 16:38 #4832 by Markovitch
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If you don't like it [censored] off home you social security scrounging leech.
Here is the bus timetable, not like you've got a job keeping you

www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d...+glasgow+to+carlisle

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Today 16:49 #4834 by Alan
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