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10 Jan 2020 13:53 #5851 by griff
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Several of you still seem to think that it’s the Civil Servants putting obstacles in the way, but please, PLEASE remember that the function of the Civil Service is to implement Government policy. If rules are put in place and we are made to abide by them it’s because Ministers have determined that that should be the case. The CS would have an easier time of it if Ministers could be persuaded to ease off from time to time but our successive Governments seem determined to make everything look fair, even if it makes us less competitive.

In the early 70s we voted to join the EEC, which was a trading union that the French had tried to keep us out of for decades. If it had stayed like that I don’t think that we would be pulling out now, but unfortunately it grew until it was too big and expensive, and started turning into something that made national laws, interfered in the financial affairs of individual countries and became much more insidious. With the EU the way it is now I want no part of it.
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10 Jan 2020 15:48 #5852 by NORTHERNSOUL
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orfc wrote:

NORTHERNSOUL wrote:

orfc wrote:

High Street wrote:

orfc wrote:

munchymagic wrote:

topstepwhinger wrote:

munchymagic wrote:

topstepwhinger wrote: That comment could only be written by an ignorant little Englander leaver.
I despair.
As the Silentone has already stated most will have worked part time to save for the trip or intend combining work with travel whilst away in order to broaden their horizons and gain life experience.
Good luck to them.


And as for being 'an ignorant little Englander leaver' you are just 'an ignorant loser' that has been made to kneel to Boris.

One day your piss will stop boiling mate, trust me on this as like they say 'time is a healer'.


I am certainly not kneeling to Boris and my piss is very much normal thanks.
If this Brexit farce is ever over and little England is suddenly transformed into the land of milk and honey, I will happily say on here that I was wrong and you were right.
Until then I am still awaiting answers to some of my questions, such as:
How do you solve the issue of the Irish border.
How are you going to agree a free trade deal by the end of the 2020.
and What is the worst example of how the EU has had a personal detrimental effect on you (but not too personal eh Alan, and not relating to the colour of taxi drivers NS).


I can only like everyone else on here answer the last bit as the previous questions are for whatever Boris wants to tell them what he is going to do regardless of what they think.

As for the EU I like to look at it as a broader picture as to what detrimental effect it has on my country.

They take more than they give and we do not need them, we never have.

If you like their rulings so much then why don't you go and live there as you obviously think it is so crap over here?


You do realise voting Brexit stops people being able to do that :-s


Please show your workings for that ridiculous statement.
00:01 1st February:
Are all planes in and out of the UK grounded?
Are all ex pats being deported?
All all EU citizens in the UK being deported?
Are all EU driving licences not valid in UK any more?
Answer to all of these is no.


The answer to "can you lick your own elbow" is no too, and in common with your questions aren't what I was replying to either

Specifically, brexit will remove the right to freely live and work in other eu countries, so once it is carried out, you will not be able to choose to "go and live there" - "go" indicating that we are envisaging a change to an individual's circumstances rather than the maintaining the status quo of EU citizens in the UK or vice versa.

Honestly, logic's difficult for brexity types isn't it?


Absolute Bullshit and just goes to show how desperate the remainers are getting

Deals are already agreed with all the real EU countries like Eire Portugal Italy and Spain and pretty sure the Frogs and Krauts will come onboard one it all becomes real.

The only issues will come with countries like Poland and Rumania when we start sending 100.s of thousands of their criminals back but why any normal person would want to go and live in those shitholes is beyond me.


The Absolute Bullshit is what you've just written. Show us proof of these supposed deals. Individual eu countries won't make their own immigration / residency agreements with the UK, the EU will do it as a whole, that's sort of the point (otherwise why don't we stay in the eu and make our own deals)


The deals with the counties I mentioned were all done while May was in charge and no how can they let the EU negotiate for them when they all want different things from their agreements.

We don't want to stay in the EU because we don't want millions of East Europeans being given the right to infest our fair land

I really think you need to keep up maybe I could arrange for you to receive the LeaveEU weekly mailshot in your inbox

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10 Jan 2020 17:31 #5853 by orfc
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NORTHERNSOUL wrote:

orfc wrote:

NORTHERNSOUL wrote:

orfc wrote:

High Street wrote:

orfc wrote:

munchymagic wrote:

topstepwhinger wrote:

munchymagic wrote:

topstepwhinger wrote: That comment could only be written by an ignorant little Englander leaver.
I despair.
As the Silentone has already stated most will have worked part time to save for the trip or intend combining work with travel whilst away in order to broaden their horizons and gain life experience.
Good luck to them.


And as for being 'an ignorant little Englander leaver' you are just 'an ignorant loser' that has been made to kneel to Boris.

One day your piss will stop boiling mate, trust me on this as like they say 'time is a healer'.


I am certainly not kneeling to Boris and my piss is very much normal thanks.
If this Brexit farce is ever over and little England is suddenly transformed into the land of milk and honey, I will happily say on here that I was wrong and you were right.
Until then I am still awaiting answers to some of my questions, such as:
How do you solve the issue of the Irish border.
How are you going to agree a free trade deal by the end of the 2020.
and What is the worst example of how the EU has had a personal detrimental effect on you (but not too personal eh Alan, and not relating to the colour of taxi drivers NS).


I can only like everyone else on here answer the last bit as the previous questions are for whatever Boris wants to tell them what he is going to do regardless of what they think.

As for the EU I like to look at it as a broader picture as to what detrimental effect it has on my country.

They take more than they give and we do not need them, we never have.

If you like their rulings so much then why don't you go and live there as you obviously think it is so crap over here?


You do realise voting Brexit stops people being able to do that :-s


Please show your workings for that ridiculous statement.
00:01 1st February:
Are all planes in and out of the UK grounded?
Are all ex pats being deported?
All all EU citizens in the UK being deported?
Are all EU driving licences not valid in UK any more?
Answer to all of these is no.


The answer to "can you lick your own elbow" is no too, and in common with your questions aren't what I was replying to either

Specifically, brexit will remove the right to freely live and work in other eu countries, so once it is carried out, you will not be able to choose to "go and live there" - "go" indicating that we are envisaging a change to an individual's circumstances rather than the maintaining the status quo of EU citizens in the UK or vice versa.

Honestly, logic's difficult for brexity types isn't it?


Absolute Bullshit and just goes to show how desperate the remainers are getting

Deals are already agreed with all the real EU countries like Eire Portugal Italy and Spain and pretty sure the Frogs and Krauts will come onboard one it all becomes real.

The only issues will come with countries like Poland and Rumania when we start sending 100.s of thousands of their criminals back but why any normal person would want to go and live in those shitholes is beyond me.


The Absolute Bullshit is what you've just written. Show us proof of these supposed deals. Individual eu countries won't make their own immigration / residency agreements with the UK, the EU will do it as a whole, that's sort of the point (otherwise why don't we stay in the eu and make our own deals)


The deals with the counties I mentioned were all done while May was in charge and no how can they let the EU negotiate for them when they all want different things from their agreements.

We don't want to stay in the EU because we don't want millions of East Europeans being given the right to infest our fair land

I really think you need to keep up maybe I could arrange for you to receive the LeaveEU weekly mailshot in your inbox


No thanks, those shiny pamphlets cut my ring piece to ribbons, I'll stick to the 3-ply comfort

Where's these deals then anyways?

Only thing I found was maybe Portugal won't insist on full visas for tourists, which of course is completely different to the rights to live and work there

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10 Jan 2020 17:35 #5854 by Vogel
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And in that last sentence is one of today’s problems, everyone just signs up to Facebook, Twitter, email accounts that support their views so just get fed information that supports their side of the argument. You can even believe the earth is flat, (oh how I miss that thread) and just surround yourself in a bubble of fellow nutters so think you are mainstream. All fine if all issues were black and white but they rarely are, it was always so I guess through your choice of newspaper but has become tediously extreme now.

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10 Jan 2020 17:36 #5855 by Vogel
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Last sentence of NS’s last post that is.

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10 Jan 2020 20:47 #5856 by Alan
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See the need for Knickers to be wrung out on a daily basis is still alive and well on this thread :-D.

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10 Jan 2020 21:10 #5857 by Dentonholmersimpson
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feckwittery wrote: I was refering to your problem dealing with the EU, which in your own words was caused by UK issues rather than the EU regulation.

The fact various EU countries regularly ignore or 'rebel' against EU without consequence tends to fly in the face of brexiteer's 'forced upon us by the evil EU' mantra. The EU cannot force anything on a member, the UK chooses to enact EU law, a lot of the time with the additional unrequired domestic nonsensery.


I don't know how you work out I am stating UK issues were the problem, the problem as clearly stated was caused by other countries not playing by the rules, if as you say and you are right, the EU cannot force anything on a member states what is the point in spending billions in drafting them in the first place.

Another issue we had was procurement of materials, it was seriously frowned upon that we sourced materials from non EU countries even though they met the same standards, the cost of buying these materials from an EU source woud have made us totally uncompetetive,protectionism to keep the likes of Junker in their ivory towers.

System rotten to the core, can't leave quick enogh for me.
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10 Jan 2020 22:44 #5858 by topstepwhinger
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Alan wrote: See the need for Knickers to be wrung out on a daily basis is still alive and well on this thread :-D.


Get well soon Alan.

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10 Jan 2020 22:59 #5859 by High Street
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orfc wrote:

High Street wrote:

orfc wrote:

munchymagic wrote:

topstepwhinger wrote:

munchymagic wrote:

topstepwhinger wrote: That comment could only be written by an ignorant little Englander leaver.
I despair.
As the Silentone has already stated most will have worked part time to save for the trip or intend combining work with travel whilst away in order to broaden their horizons and gain life experience.
Good luck to them.


And as for being 'an ignorant little Englander leaver' you are just 'an ignorant loser' that has been made to kneel to Boris.

One day your piss will stop boiling mate, trust me on this as like they say 'time is a healer'.


I am certainly not kneeling to Boris and my piss is very much normal thanks.
If this Brexit farce is ever over and little England is suddenly transformed into the land of milk and honey, I will happily say on here that I was wrong and you were right.
Until then I am still awaiting answers to some of my questions, such as:
How do you solve the issue of the Irish border.
How are you going to agree a free trade deal by the end of the 2020.
and What is the worst example of how the EU has had a personal detrimental effect on you (but not too personal eh Alan, and not relating to the colour of taxi drivers NS).


I can only like everyone else on here answer the last bit as the previous questions are for whatever Boris wants to tell them what he is going to do regardless of what they think.

As for the EU I like to look at it as a broader picture as to what detrimental effect it has on my country.

They take more than they give and we do not need them, we never have.

If you like their rulings so much then why don't you go and live there as you obviously think it is so crap over here?


You do realise voting Brexit stops people being able to do that :-s


Please show your workings for that ridiculous statement.
00:01 1st February:
Are all planes in and out of the UK grounded?
Are all ex pats being deported?
All all EU citizens in the UK being deported?
Are all EU driving licences not valid in UK any more?
Answer to all of these is no.


The answer to "can you lick your own elbow" is no too, and in common with your questions aren't what I was replying to either

Specifically, brexit will remove the right to freely live and work in other eu countries, so once it is carried out, you will not be able to choose to "go and live there" - "go" indicating that we are envisaging a change to an individual's circumstances rather than the maintaining the status quo of EU citizens in the UK or vice versa.

Honestly, logic's difficult for brexity types isn't it?


When UK leave the EU, you’re saying that as non EU citizens, we cannot under any circumstances work or live in the EU?
What make us different from all the other non EU countries?
Is this why Meghan has flit to Canada?

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10 Jan 2020 23:16 #5860 by Alan
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11 Jan 2020 00:04 #5861 by Bluedazblue
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High Street wrote:

orfc wrote:

High Street wrote:

orfc wrote:

munchymagic wrote:

topstepwhinger wrote:

munchymagic wrote:

topstepwhinger wrote: That comment could only be written by an ignorant little Englander leaver.
I despair.
As the Silentone has already stated most will have worked part time to save for the trip or intend combining work with travel whilst away in order to broaden their horizons and gain life experience.
Good luck to them.


And as for being 'an ignorant little Englander leaver' you are just 'an ignorant loser' that has been made to kneel to Boris.

One day your piss will stop boiling mate, trust me on this as like they say 'time is a healer'.


I am certainly not kneeling to Boris and my piss is very much normal thanks.
If this Brexit farce is ever over and little England is suddenly transformed into the land of milk and honey, I will happily say on here that I was wrong and you were right.
Until then I am still awaiting answers to some of my questions, such as:
How do you solve the issue of the Irish border.
How are you going to agree a free trade deal by the end of the 2020.
and What is the worst example of how the EU has had a personal detrimental effect on you (but not too personal eh Alan, and not relating to the colour of taxi drivers NS).


I can only like everyone else on here answer the last bit as the previous questions are for whatever Boris wants to tell them what he is going to do regardless of what they think.

As for the EU I like to look at it as a broader picture as to what detrimental effect it has on my country.

They take more than they give and we do not need them, we never have.

If you like their rulings so much then why don't you go and live there as you obviously think it is so crap over here?


You do realise voting Brexit stops people being able to do that :-s


Please show your workings for that ridiculous statement.
00:01 1st February:
Are all planes in and out of the UK grounded?
Are all ex pats being deported?
All all EU citizens in the UK being deported?
Are all EU driving licences not valid in UK any more?
Answer to all of these is no.


The answer to "can you lick your own elbow" is no too, and in common with your questions aren't what I was replying to either

Specifically, brexit will remove the right to freely live and work in other eu countries, so once it is carried out, you will not be able to choose to "go and live there" - "go" indicating that we are envisaging a change to an individual's circumstances rather than the maintaining the status quo of EU citizens in the UK or vice versa.

Honestly, logic's difficult for brexity types isn't it?


When UK leave the EU, you’re saying that as non EU citizens, we cannot under any circumstances work or live in the EU?
What make us different from all the other non EU countries?
Is this why Meghan has flit to Canada?


Quite right.

My cousin has lived in the US for forty years. She's still not an American citizen but lives there legally.

The chap I bought my house from lives in Thailand. He has to renew his visa from time to time, but effectively he's a permanent resident.

My friend's son works as a astronomer in Chile.

A friend of mine is a teacher in São Paulo, Brazil.

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11 Jan 2020 05:35 #5862 by Kessler
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High Street wrote: When UK leave the EU, you’re saying that as non EU citizens, we cannot under any circumstances work or live in the EU?
What make us different from all the other non EU countries?
Is this why Meghan has flit to Canada?


I was listening to a phone in about Harry and Meghan's announcement and I had to laugh at the amount of people who started by saying "Just want to say I'm not a racist BUT..." and then go off into a racist rant about how they knew Meghan was bad the minute they saw her. I wonder what aspect of her physical appearance made these definitely-not-racists instantly not like her.....

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11 Jan 2020 07:58 #5863 by High Street
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Which phone in was this?

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11 Jan 2020 13:22 #5864 by Dentonholmersimpson
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Kessler wrote:

High Street wrote: When UK leave the EU, you’re saying that as non EU citizens, we cannot under any circumstances work or live in the EU?
What make us different from all the other non EU countries?
Is this why Meghan has flit to Canada?


I was listening to a phone in about Harry and Meghan's announcement and I had to laugh at the amount of people who started by saying "Just want to say I'm not a racist BUT..." and then go off into a racist rant about how they knew Meghan was bad the minute they saw her. I wonder what aspect of her physical appearance made these definitely-not-racists instantly not like her.....


Nothing to do with race, more gender, because she appears to me to be a manipultive, selfish bitch.

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11 Jan 2020 13:37 #5865 by orfc
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Bluedazblue wrote:

High Street wrote:

orfc wrote:

High Street wrote:

orfc wrote:

munchymagic wrote:

topstepwhinger wrote:

munchymagic wrote:

topstepwhinger wrote: That comment could only be written by an ignorant little Englander leaver.
I despair.
As the Silentone has already stated most will have worked part time to save for the trip or intend combining work with travel whilst away in order to broaden their horizons and gain life experience.
Good luck to them.


And as for being 'an ignorant little Englander leaver' you are just 'an ignorant loser' that has been made to kneel to Boris.

One day your piss will stop boiling mate, trust me on this as like they say 'time is a healer'.


I am certainly not kneeling to Boris and my piss is very much normal thanks.
If this Brexit farce is ever over and little England is suddenly transformed into the land of milk and honey, I will happily say on here that I was wrong and you were right.
Until then I am still awaiting answers to some of my questions, such as:
How do you solve the issue of the Irish border.
How are you going to agree a free trade deal by the end of the 2020.
and What is the worst example of how the EU has had a personal detrimental effect on you (but not too personal eh Alan, and not relating to the colour of taxi drivers NS).


I can only like everyone else on here answer the last bit as the previous questions are for whatever Boris wants to tell them what he is going to do regardless of what they think.

As for the EU I like to look at it as a broader picture as to what detrimental effect it has on my country.

They take more than they give and we do not need them, we never have.

If you like their rulings so much then why don't you go and live there as you obviously think it is so crap over here?


You do realise voting Brexit stops people being able to do that :-s


Please show your workings for that ridiculous statement.
00:01 1st February:
Are all planes in and out of the UK grounded?
Are all ex pats being deported?
All all EU citizens in the UK being deported?
Are all EU driving licences not valid in UK any more?
Answer to all of these is no.


The answer to "can you lick your own elbow" is no too, and in common with your questions aren't what I was replying to either

Specifically, brexit will remove the right to freely live and work in other eu countries, so once it is carried out, you will not be able to choose to "go and live there" - "go" indicating that we are envisaging a change to an individual's circumstances rather than the maintaining the status quo of EU citizens in the UK or vice versa.

Honestly, logic's difficult for brexity types isn't it?


When UK leave the EU, you’re saying that as non EU citizens, we cannot under any circumstances work or live in the EU?
What make us different from all the other non EU countries?
Is this why Meghan has flit to Canada?


Quite right.

My cousin has lived in the US for forty years. She's still not an American citizen but lives there legally.

The chap I bought my house from lives in Thailand. He has to renew his visa from time to time, but effectively he's a permanent resident.

My friend's son works as a astronomer in Chile.

A friend of mine is a teacher in São Paulo, Brazil.


I'll eventually get you and high street to comprehend this...

At the moment we have the right to go and live and work in the EU without those countries deciding whether we can or not

All the examples you and HS have given are where the individuals need the acquiescence of their host countries, via work visas / residency permits, any of which can be revoked at any given moment.

And that will be the case for any UK citizen wanting to move to the EU in the future.

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11 Jan 2020 14:09 #5866 by High Street
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So what youre saying is that anybody can apply to live in any country they want, as long as they get a visa etc?
So just confirming that Brexit is not stopping this, as you claimed.
And remainers think they they are more clever than anyone. Jesus.
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11 Jan 2020 14:28 #5867 by orfc
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High Street wrote: So what youre saying is that anybody can apply to live in any country they want, as long as they get a visa etc?
So just confirming that Brexit is not stopping this, as you claimed.
And remainers think they they are more clever than anyone. Jesus.


Not the situation I was demonstrating, and pretending it was is straight out thesilentone's playbook

But since you mention it, people are definitely free to apply anywhere, but actually going is obviously conditional on achieving a visa etc. That is clearly not the same as being free to go, which is the current guarantee with EU countries.

If you can't understand the difference then I think your cleverness argument answers itself

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11 Jan 2020 16:30 #5868 by NORTHERNSOUL
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orfc wrote:

Bluedazblue wrote:

High Street wrote:

orfc wrote:

High Street wrote:

orfc wrote:

munchymagic wrote:

topstepwhinger wrote:

munchymagic wrote:

topstepwhinger wrote: That comment could only be written by an ignorant little Englander leaver.
I despair.
As the Silentone has already stated most will have worked part time to save for the trip or intend combining work with travel whilst away in order to broaden their horizons and gain life experience.
Good luck to them.


And as for being 'an ignorant little Englander leaver' you are just 'an ignorant loser' that has been made to kneel to Boris.

One day your piss will stop boiling mate, trust me on this as like they say 'time is a healer'.


I am certainly not kneeling to Boris and my piss is very much normal thanks.
If this Brexit farce is ever over and little England is suddenly transformed into the land of milk and honey, I will happily say on here that I was wrong and you were right.
Until then I am still awaiting answers to some of my questions, such as:
How do you solve the issue of the Irish border.
How are you going to agree a free trade deal by the end of the 2020.
and What is the worst example of how the EU has had a personal detrimental effect on you (but not too personal eh Alan, and not relating to the colour of taxi drivers NS).


I can only like everyone else on here answer the last bit as the previous questions are for whatever Boris wants to tell them what he is going to do regardless of what they think.

As for the EU I like to look at it as a broader picture as to what detrimental effect it has on my country.

They take more than they give and we do not need them, we never have.

If you like their rulings so much then why don't you go and live there as you obviously think it is so crap over here?


You do realise voting Brexit stops people being able to do that :-s


Please show your workings for that ridiculous statement.
00:01 1st February:
Are all planes in and out of the UK grounded?
Are all ex pats being deported?
All all EU citizens in the UK being deported?
Are all EU driving licences not valid in UK any more?
Answer to all of these is no.


The answer to "can you lick your own elbow" is no too, and in common with your questions aren't what I was replying to either

Specifically, brexit will remove the right to freely live and work in other eu countries, so once it is carried out, you will not be able to choose to "go and live there" - "go" indicating that we are envisaging a change to an individual's circumstances rather than the maintaining the status quo of EU citizens in the UK or vice versa.

Honestly, logic's difficult for brexity types isn't it?


When UK leave the EU, you’re saying that as non EU citizens, we cannot under any circumstances work or live in the EU?
What make us different from all the other non EU countries?
Is this why Meghan has flit to Canada?


Quite right.

My cousin has lived in the US for forty years. She's still not an American citizen but lives there legally.

The chap I bought my house from lives in Thailand. He has to renew his visa from time to time, but effectively he's a permanent resident.

My friend's son works as a astronomer in Chile.

A friend of mine is a teacher in São Paulo, Brazil.


I'll eventually get you and high street to comprehend this...

At the moment we have the right to go and live and work in the EU without those countries deciding whether we can or not

All the examples you and HS have given are where the individuals need the acquiescence of their host countries, via work visas / residency permits, any of which can be revoked at any given moment.

And that will be the case for any UK citizen wanting to move to the EU in the future.



And you really think anyone from anywhere whatever their past should just be allowed to come and live here without us having any control whatever then ?

Yeah, a great plan that I.ll start with the Manchester bombing and let you work your way back from there.

Let's start from the other end and allow no one in unless we need them like Doctors who if they want to come here and earn at out enhanced rates of pay should be willing to make a substantial payment lets say 25k to be allowed to do so.

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11 Jan 2020 16:51 #5869 by orfc
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NORTHERNSOUL wrote:

orfc wrote:

Bluedazblue wrote:

High Street wrote:

orfc wrote:

High Street wrote:

orfc wrote:

munchymagic wrote:

topstepwhinger wrote:

munchymagic wrote:

topstepwhinger wrote: That comment could only be written by an ignorant little Englander leaver.
I despair.
As the Silentone has already stated most will have worked part time to save for the trip or intend combining work with travel whilst away in order to broaden their horizons and gain life experience.
Good luck to them.


And as for being 'an ignorant little Englander leaver' you are just 'an ignorant loser' that has been made to kneel to Boris.

One day your piss will stop boiling mate, trust me on this as like they say 'time is a healer'.


I am certainly not kneeling to Boris and my piss is very much normal thanks.
If this Brexit farce is ever over and little England is suddenly transformed into the land of milk and honey, I will happily say on here that I was wrong and you were right.
Until then I am still awaiting answers to some of my questions, such as:
How do you solve the issue of the Irish border.
How are you going to agree a free trade deal by the end of the 2020.
and What is the worst example of how the EU has had a personal detrimental effect on you (but not too personal eh Alan, and not relating to the colour of taxi drivers NS).


I can only like everyone else on here answer the last bit as the previous questions are for whatever Boris wants to tell them what he is going to do regardless of what they think.

As for the EU I like to look at it as a broader picture as to what detrimental effect it has on my country.

They take more than they give and we do not need them, we never have.

If you like their rulings so much then why don't you go and live there as you obviously think it is so crap over here?


You do realise voting Brexit stops people being able to do that :-s


Please show your workings for that ridiculous statement.
00:01 1st February:
Are all planes in and out of the UK grounded?
Are all ex pats being deported?
All all EU citizens in the UK being deported?
Are all EU driving licences not valid in UK any more?
Answer to all of these is no.


The answer to "can you lick your own elbow" is no too, and in common with your questions aren't what I was replying to either

Specifically, brexit will remove the right to freely live and work in other eu countries, so once it is carried out, you will not be able to choose to "go and live there" - "go" indicating that we are envisaging a change to an individual's circumstances rather than the maintaining the status quo of EU citizens in the UK or vice versa.

Honestly, logic's difficult for brexity types isn't it?


When UK leave the EU, you’re saying that as non EU citizens, we cannot under any circumstances work or live in the EU?
What make us different from all the other non EU countries?
Is this why Meghan has flit to Canada?


Quite right.

My cousin has lived in the US for forty years. She's still not an American citizen but lives there legally.

The chap I bought my house from lives in Thailand. He has to renew his visa from time to time, but effectively he's a permanent resident.

My friend's son works as a astronomer in Chile.

A friend of mine is a teacher in São Paulo, Brazil.


I'll eventually get you and high street to comprehend this...

At the moment we have the right to go and live and work in the EU without those countries deciding whether we can or not

All the examples you and HS have given are where the individuals need the acquiescence of their host countries, via work visas / residency permits, any of which can be revoked at any given moment.

And that will be the case for any UK citizen wanting to move to the EU in the future.



And you really think anyone from anywhere whatever their past should just be allowed to come and live here without us having any control whatever then ?

Yeah, a great plan that I.ll start with the Manchester bombing and let you work your way back from there.

Let's start from the other end and allow no one in unless we need them like Doctors who if they want to come here and earn at out enhanced rates of pay should be willing to make a substantial payment lets say 25k to be allowed to do so.



We're talking about automatic employment/residency rights that EU citizens have in other EU states


"And you really think anyone from anywhere whatever their past should just be allowed to come and live here"

Show me where I said that, and while we're at it, - again - show me these deals with individual Eu countries you're on about

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11 Jan 2020 17:24 #5870 by NORTHERNSOUL
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orfc wrote:

NORTHERNSOUL wrote:

orfc wrote:

Bluedazblue wrote:

High Street wrote:

orfc wrote:

High Street wrote:

orfc wrote:

munchymagic wrote:

topstepwhinger wrote:

munchymagic wrote:

topstepwhinger wrote: That comment could only be written by an ignorant little Englander leaver.
I despair.
As the Silentone has already stated most will have worked part time to save for the trip or intend combining work with travel whilst away in order to broaden their horizons and gain life experience.
Good luck to them.


And as for being 'an ignorant little Englander leaver' you are just 'an ignorant loser' that has been made to kneel to Boris.

One day your piss will stop boiling mate, trust me on this as like they say 'time is a healer'.


I am certainly not kneeling to Boris and my piss is very much normal thanks.
If this Brexit farce is ever over and little England is suddenly transformed into the land of milk and honey, I will happily say on here that I was wrong and you were right.
Until then I am still awaiting answers to some of my questions, such as:
How do you solve the issue of the Irish border.
How are you going to agree a free trade deal by the end of the 2020.
and What is the worst example of how the EU has had a personal detrimental effect on you (but not too personal eh Alan, and not relating to the colour of taxi drivers NS).


I can only like everyone else on here answer the last bit as the previous questions are for whatever Boris wants to tell them what he is going to do regardless of what they think.

As for the EU I like to look at it as a broader picture as to what detrimental effect it has on my country.

They take more than they give and we do not need them, we never have.

If you like their rulings so much then why don't you go and live there as you obviously think it is so crap over here?


You do realise voting Brexit stops people being able to do that :-s


Please show your workings for that ridiculous statement.
00:01 1st February:
Are all planes in and out of the UK grounded?
Are all ex pats being deported?
All all EU citizens in the UK being deported?
Are all EU driving licences not valid in UK any more?
Answer to all of these is no.


The answer to "can you lick your own elbow" is no too, and in common with your questions aren't what I was replying to either

Specifically, brexit will remove the right to freely live and work in other eu countries, so once it is carried out, you will not be able to choose to "go and live there" - "go" indicating that we are envisaging a change to an individual's circumstances rather than the maintaining the status quo of EU citizens in the UK or vice versa.

Honestly, logic's difficult for brexity types isn't it?


When UK leave the EU, you’re saying that as non EU citizens, we cannot under any circumstances work or live in the EU?
What make us different from all the other non EU countries?
Is this why Meghan has flit to Canada?


Quite right.

My cousin has lived in the US for forty years. She's still not an American citizen but lives there legally.

The chap I bought my house from lives in Thailand. He has to renew his visa from time to time, but effectively he's a permanent resident.

My friend's son works as a astronomer in Chile.

A friend of mine is a teacher in São Paulo, Brazil.


I'll eventually get you and high street to comprehend this...

At the moment we have the right to go and live and work in the EU without those countries deciding whether we can or not

All the examples you and HS have given are where the individuals need the acquiescence of their host countries, via work visas / residency permits, any of which can be revoked at any given moment.

And that will be the case for any UK citizen wanting to move to the EU in the future.



And you really think anyone from anywhere whatever their past should just be allowed to come and live here without us having any control whatever then ?

Yeah, a great plan that I.ll start with the Manchester bombing and let you work your way back from there.

Let's start from the other end and allow no one in unless we need them like Doctors who if they want to come here and earn at out enhanced rates of pay should be willing to make a substantial payment lets say 25k to be allowed to do so.



We're talking about automatic employment/residency rights that EU citizens have in other EU states


"And you really think anyone from anywhere whatever their past should just be allowed to come and live here"

Show me where I said that, and while we're at it, - again - show me these deals with individual Eu countries you're on about


That's exactly what i said there are literally thousands of East European EU member states citizens with convictions for everything from mass murder downwards that have been allowed to enter and stay in this country and who we've done nothing about removing.

Now fire away and try justifying that then.

Then we get onto the NHS and housing situations So just to be clear are you saying removing 3m of the people who use these services more than the average British Guy wouldn't make them better for the British people who have paid for them over the years thru their tax and NI payments? as opposed to the 2 roubles or whatever it is that we're lucky if they.ve even paid at all.

And I .ve told you where news of the arrangements made with several different foreign governments has appeared and even offered to add you to the relevant mailing list.

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11 Jan 2020 17:42 #5871 by topstepwhinger
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High Street wrote: So what youre saying is that anybody can apply to live in any country they want, as long as they get a visa etc?
So just confirming that Brexit is not stopping this, as you claimed.
And remainers think they they are more clever than anyone. Jesus.

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The problem is that the leavers on this and many other forums are doing their best to prove that your last sentence could well be correct.

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11 Jan 2020 17:47 #5872 by High Street
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Well thought out argument.
10/10

Must be awful being terribly bitter for nearly 4 years.

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11 Jan 2020 18:03 #5873 by topstepwhinger
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I'm not bitter at all, and genuinely hope things work out as was promised.
It's just that after more than 3 years we are still waiting to see a coherent plan of action - though obviously that appears to be the fault of the EU and the 'bad losers who wont accept defeat'.

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11 Jan 2020 18:38 #5874 by NORTHERNSOUL
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topstepwhinger wrote: I'm not bitter at all, and genuinely hope things work out as was promised.
It's just that after more than 3 years we are still waiting to see a coherent plan of action - though obviously that appears to be the fault of the EU and the 'bad losers who wont accept defeat'.


Of course, there's a plan of action just like there was when Boris was elected and all the remoaners said he.d never do a deal So what did he do? Stopped talking to the likes of Junker and proceeded to speak to actual people in power in each of the countries result 14 days later he had an agreement. How can you negotiate with an organisation whose members all want different things and where those on the edge who were wavering were brought into line by being told how much their contributions would rise if Britain were allowed to leave

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12 Jan 2020 00:51 #5875 by orfc
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NORTHERNSOUL wrote:

orfc wrote:

NORTHERNSOUL wrote:

orfc wrote:

Bluedazblue wrote:

High Street wrote:

orfc wrote:

High Street wrote:

orfc wrote:

munchymagic wrote:

topstepwhinger wrote:

munchymagic wrote:

topstepwhinger wrote: That comment could only be written by an ignorant little Englander leaver.
I despair.
As the Silentone has already stated most will have worked part time to save for the trip or intend combining work with travel whilst away in order to broaden their horizons and gain life experience.
Good luck to them.


And as for being 'an ignorant little Englander leaver' you are just 'an ignorant loser' that has been made to kneel to Boris.

One day your piss will stop boiling mate, trust me on this as like they say 'time is a healer'.


I am certainly not kneeling to Boris and my piss is very much normal thanks.
If this Brexit farce is ever over and little England is suddenly transformed into the land of milk and honey, I will happily say on here that I was wrong and you were right.
Until then I am still awaiting answers to some of my questions, such as:
How do you solve the issue of the Irish border.
How are you going to agree a free trade deal by the end of the 2020.
and What is the worst example of how the EU has had a personal detrimental effect on you (but not too personal eh Alan, and not relating to the colour of taxi drivers NS).


I can only like everyone else on here answer the last bit as the previous questions are for whatever Boris wants to tell them what he is going to do regardless of what they think.

As for the EU I like to look at it as a broader picture as to what detrimental effect it has on my country.

They take more than they give and we do not need them, we never have.

If you like their rulings so much then why don't you go and live there as you obviously think it is so crap over here?


You do realise voting Brexit stops people being able to do that :-s


Please show your workings for that ridiculous statement.
00:01 1st February:
Are all planes in and out of the UK grounded?
Are all ex pats being deported?
All all EU citizens in the UK being deported?
Are all EU driving licences not valid in UK any more?
Answer to all of these is no.


The answer to "can you lick your own elbow" is no too, and in common with your questions aren't what I was replying to either

Specifically, brexit will remove the right to freely live and work in other eu countries, so once it is carried out, you will not be able to choose to "go and live there" - "go" indicating that we are envisaging a change to an individual's circumstances rather than the maintaining the status quo of EU citizens in the UK or vice versa.

Honestly, logic's difficult for brexity types isn't it?


When UK leave the EU, you’re saying that as non EU citizens, we cannot under any circumstances work or live in the EU?
What make us different from all the other non EU countries?
Is this why Meghan has flit to Canada?


Quite right.

My cousin has lived in the US for forty years. She's still not an American citizen but lives there legally.

The chap I bought my house from lives in Thailand. He has to renew his visa from time to time, but effectively he's a permanent resident.

My friend's son works as a astronomer in Chile.

A friend of mine is a teacher in São Paulo, Brazil.


I'll eventually get you and high street to comprehend this...

At the moment we have the right to go and live and work in the EU without those countries deciding whether we can or not

All the examples you and HS have given are where the individuals need the acquiescence of their host countries, via work visas / residency permits, any of which can be revoked at any given moment.

And that will be the case for any UK citizen wanting to move to the EU in the future.



And you really think anyone from anywhere whatever their past should just be allowed to come and live here without us having any control whatever then ?

Yeah, a great plan that I.ll start with the Manchester bombing and let you work your way back from there.

Let's start from the other end and allow no one in unless we need them like Doctors who if they want to come here and earn at out enhanced rates of pay should be willing to make a substantial payment lets say 25k to be allowed to do so.



We're talking about automatic employment/residency rights that EU citizens have in other EU states


"And you really think anyone from anywhere whatever their past should just be allowed to come and live here"

Show me where I said that, and while we're at it, - again - show me these deals with individual Eu countries you're on about


That's exactly what i said there are literally thousands of East European EU member states citizens with convictions for everything from mass murder downwards that have been allowed to enter and stay in this country and who we've done nothing about removing.

Now fire away and try justifying that then.

Then we get onto the NHS and housing situations So just to be clear are you saying removing 3m of the people who use these services more than the average British Guy wouldn't make them better for the British people who have paid for them over the years thru their tax and NI payments? as opposed to the 2 roubles or whatever it is that we're lucky if they.ve even paid at all.

And I .ve told you where news of the arrangements made with several different foreign governments has appeared and even offered to add you to the relevant mailing list.



Your first point again is just another example of the UK not doing enough. We can fling out foreigners with serious criminal records but if we can't be arsed to whose fault is that? Anyways once we leave the evil ee-you we lose access to the European database that tells us who's a wrong un anyways...

As for your last point, bring your claims here so everyone can see them. When you make a claim, it's up to you to prove them, not for everyone else to try and disprove them.

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17 Jan 2020 17:54 #5876 by Bluedazblue
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Millions of EU funds, have found their way to Sicilian Mafia. 94 arrested.

palermo.repubblica.it/cronaca/2020/01/15...ef=drac-2&refresh_ce

Thank God we're leaving.

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17 Jan 2020 20:16 #5877 by orfc
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In the latest news, apparently Bozo can easily arrange the UKs biggest trade negotiations in history with the EU in 11 months, but 3 weeks isn't long enough for him to sort out the regulations and forms to make a bell go 'bong'

And in sad news for Soul, the ferries are being sent to the scrapyard:
"Brexit: There will be no automatic deportation for EU citizens - No 10"
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-51146992

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