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27 Jun 2018 13:15 - 12 Sep 2018 21:36 #1 by CCU
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Why don’t we just announce he’s working for us? Worst kept ‘secret’ yet that he’s now employed by the Club in some capacity.

Can’t take that long to come up with a title surely?!

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27 Jun 2018 13:24 #2 by Dancingbear
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Maybe he’s working for EWM?

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27 Jun 2018 13:31 #3 by Waltero
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They'll be trying to work out another lie to tell us

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27 Jun 2018 13:46 #4 by heilkmoon
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Pigeon shit has finally shorted the tannoy

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27 Jun 2018 15:39 - 27 Jun 2018 15:39 #5 by CCU
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Waltero wrote: They'll be trying to work out another lie to tell us


Whatever, it’s yet another thing that is a) being hidden and b) doesn’t paint them in a good light.

Are CUOSC aware is another question (The answer should be yes, if so, they’re as bad)?

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27 Jun 2018 16:15 #6 by borderterrier
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He must be a BILLIONAIRE!

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29 Jun 2018 18:01 #7 by Wukkie
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Have a look at club staff on the official website, they haven't even bothered to type in the Manager and his staff yet.

www.carlisleunited.co.uk/news/2018/may/club-staff/

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29 Jun 2018 18:25 #8 by Swintonblue
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heilkmoon wrote: Pigeon shit has finally shorted the tannoy


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29 Jun 2018 18:42 #9 by pigeonpete
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Public distress system more like

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29 Jun 2018 20:28 #10 by Mouldy
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30 Jun 2018 08:57 #11 by Bumble
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CCU wrote:

Waltero wrote: They'll be trying to work out another lie to tell us


Whatever, it’s yet another thing that is a) being hidden and b) doesn’t paint them in a good light.

Are CUOSC aware is another question (The answer should be yes, if so, they’re as bad)?


Totally agree CCU. It makes no sense at all to keep him hidden, immediately makes it sems as though there is something to hide, when it actually could be spun into something good and optimistic.

Whether CUOSC is aware is irrelevant, they don't represent the fans. I feel we get more info from the CUSG meetings. I do wish you would reconsider and go to those. Their minutes usualy turn something up of interest.
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30 Jun 2018 09:40 #12 by nobbyblue
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CUOSC have very little say as can be seen in the appointment of a 53 year old journeyman manager when they wanted a young bright coach to the take the club forward. That worked out well. :cheer:

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30 Jun 2018 11:44 #13 by CCU
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Bumble wrote:

CCU wrote:

Waltero wrote: They'll be trying to work out another lie to tell us


Whatever, it’s yet another thing that is a) being hidden and b) doesn’t paint them in a good light.

Are CUOSC aware is another question (The answer should be yes, if so, they’re as bad)?


Totally agree CCU. It makes no sense at all to keep him hidden, immediately makes it sems as though there is something to hide, when it actually could be spun into something good and optimistic.

Whether CUOSC is aware is irrelevant, they don't represent the fans. I feel we get more info from the CUSG meetings. I do wish you would reconsider and go to those. Their minutes usualy turn something up of interest.


In fairness we put the option to a users vote, who indicated they didn’t want the Messageboard represented. If folk wanted us to reconsider we’d do so again...

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30 Jun 2018 12:10 #14 by Dancingbear
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I want you to reconsider as I think it’d be very beneficial. I sometimes see one of the blokes from the west coast branch at work and he says it’s worthwhile for finding stuff out. If nothing else I’d suggest Going as a one off to see if there is any merit. I don’t think it can do any harm by doing that and it wouldn’t make this board any less independent.

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30 Jun 2018 12:25 #15 by bruntonpete
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Email NC and see if he will give you a direct answer.

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30 Jun 2018 13:06 - 30 Jun 2018 13:16 #16 by Bumble
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At the time I was anti the message board getting involved and said so.
My reason was I thought the whole CUSG thing was stepping on the toes of our fan rep. I really wanted the fan rep to succeed (still do) and I thought having CUSG, CUOSC and a fans rep would be too many cooks, they would get in each others way and nothing would get done.

Now things have changed. We don't have a fans rep, CUOSC appear to be a secret society who don't represent or report back to their members never mind fans in general and we are left with CUSG.

For myself I am happy with and respect the fans who are working in CUSG. Having chatted with some that attend, they say they have learned from going, although some find it frustratingly slow in getting any ideas off the ground. At the moment CUSG seems to be made up of those who travel to away matches and the London branch. I would like it to become a broader spectrum of fans and preferably more folk from the younger end of the fanbase.

I would like the message board represented.
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30 Jun 2018 14:09 - 30 Jun 2018 14:11 #17 by Mouldy
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I think the general feel last time was against representation as such but many would have been ok with attendance, without speaking on someone’s behalf.

We have double if not touching triple the amount of ‘members’ of the other ‘supporters groups’. Huge benefit for the club to tap into that I think.

That said I find the majority of the topics covered trivial and in some cases almost irrelevant to the majority of fans.

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30 Jun 2018 14:38 #18 by CCU
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We’ll pop a new poll up on Monday and run it for the rest of the week if folk want?

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30 Jun 2018 14:43 #19 by Mullen103
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Too many hypocrites on here.

Cusg group now another thing. You can’t criticise on here that the groups too big and talks shite/achieves nothing and now want to go.

We are a strange club.

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30 Jun 2018 14:51 #20 by Mouldy
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Mullen103 wrote: Too many hypocrites on here.

Cusg group now another thing. You can’t criticise on here that the groups too big and talks shite/achieves nothing and now want to go.

We are a strange club.


Can’t say you’re done with going to games then go to a few more either Mullen ;-) :D (I’m just fishing)


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30 Jun 2018 14:56 #21 by Mullen103
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Mouldy wrote:

Mullen103 wrote: Too many hypocrites on here.

Cusg group now another thing. You can’t criticise on here that the groups too big and talks shite/achieves nothing and now want to go.

We are a strange club.


Can’t say you’re done with going to games then go to a few more either Mullen ;-) :D (I’m just fishing)


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30 Jun 2018 15:10 #22 by High Street
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heilkmoon wrote: Pigeon shit has finally shorted the tannoy


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30 Jun 2018 15:12 #23 by Lakelandterrier
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He could be acting as an advisor to people wanting to buy shares or takeover...

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30 Jun 2018 15:41 #24 by ParcelPete
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Thought i spotted him in his car this morning,does anyone know Holdsworths Reg?
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30 Jun 2018 15:43 #25 by CCU
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ParcelPete wrote: Thought i spotted him in his car this morning,does anyone know Holdsworths Reg?


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30 Jun 2018 17:10 #26 by Waltero
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for all the BOD's talk about communicating with the fans we're back to square one. They've got no intention of "keeping the fans" in the loop. They deserve all the flak we can give them. If anyone from the trust is reading this we need answers from you. Are Jim and Billy prepared to call a meeting so we can pin them down or will they invoke their version of an "NDA" answers please

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01 Jul 2018 08:39 #27 by NORTHERNSOUL
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Waltero wrote: for all the BOD's talk about communicating with the fans we're back to square one. They've got no intention of "keeping the fans" in the loop. They deserve all the flak we can give them. If anyone from the trust is reading this we need answers from you. Are Jim and Billy prepared to call a meeting so we can pin them down or will they invoke their version of an "NDA" answers please


Of course, they won't. they cant put themselves in a position where people will ask them questions that they know they cant answer and I suggest they would constantly invoke the "we cant answer that because of our confidentiality agreement " from being on the Holdings/1921 board which would make the whole thing nothing but a sham.

As for being part of the group crap Don't Touch It Wih a Bargepole all it would do would be to give Clibbins and his spin more credence when in effect what this board should be doing is everything in its power to remove him. I read their notes with incredulity because I refuse to believe that the West Coast guys sitting there like nodding donkeys is in anyway representing their members and what effort did they make to stand up for Mark when the club totally abused him ?

This Board would be much better employed setting up a group with a stated aim of removing Jenkins, the current board and all their puppets as soon as possible like fan organisations at other clubs do when they're not happy with the arseholes they find running their clubs.

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01 Jul 2018 09:21 - 01 Jul 2018 09:25 #28 by carwash
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Wukkie wrote: Have a look at club staff on the official website, they haven't even bothered to type in the Manager and his staff yet.

www.carlisleunited.co.uk/news/2018/may/club-staff/


The staff list has now been brought up to date apart from Mr Holdsworth but Amy hasn't changed the date at the top which is still showing 1st May.

It's interesting some roles are left vacant at the moment like Strength and Conditioning coach but there's no vacant role for Commercial Director. As we thought there was never any serious intention of replacing Phil King when his duties could easily be taken on by the other staff.
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01 Jul 2018 18:19 #29 by franksidebottom
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CCU wrote:

Bumble wrote:

CCU wrote:

Waltero wrote: They'll be trying to work out another lie to tell us


Whatever, it’s yet another thing that is a) being hidden and b) doesn’t paint them in a good light.

Are CUOSC aware is another question (The answer should be yes, if so, they’re as bad)?


Totally agree CCU. It makes no sense at all to keep him hidden, immediately makes it sems as though there is something to hide, when it actually could be spun into something good and optimistic.

Whether CUOSC is aware is irrelevant, they don't represent the fans. I feel we get more info from the CUSG meetings. I do wish you would reconsider and go to those. Their minutes usualy turn something up of interest.


In fairness we put the option to a users vote, who indicated they didn’t want the Messageboard represented. If folk wanted us to reconsider we’d do so again...


It was obvious you wanted to go to the meetings and get involved last time we had a vote Dan, you were disappointed when the vote didn’t go how you wished. You’re in danger of turning into Nicola Sturgeon! :lol:

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01 Jul 2018 18:47 #30 by CCU
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franksidebottom wrote:

CCU wrote:

Bumble wrote:

CCU wrote:

Waltero wrote: They'll be trying to work out another lie to tell us


Whatever, it’s yet another thing that is a) being hidden and b) doesn’t paint them in a good light.

Are CUOSC aware is another question (The answer should be yes, if so, they’re as bad)?


Totally agree CCU. It makes no sense at all to keep him hidden, immediately makes it sems as though there is something to hide, when it actually could be spun into something good and optimistic.

Whether CUOSC is aware is irrelevant, they don't represent the fans. I feel we get more info from the CUSG meetings. I do wish you would reconsider and go to those. Their minutes usualy turn something up of interest.


In fairness we put the option to a users vote, who indicated they didn’t want the Messageboard represented. If folk wanted us to reconsider we’d do so again...


It was obvious you wanted to go to the meetings and get involved last time we had a vote Dan, you were disappointed when the vote didn’t go how you wished. You’re in danger of turning into Nicola Sturgeon! :lol:


Not at all. As I’ve said several times on here, think the idea isn’t bad, but in its current form isn’t up to the job (Up to 3 Reps from each Group? Far too many!)...

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01 Jul 2018 18:59 #31 by NORTHERNSOUL
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CCU wrote:

franksidebottom wrote:

CCU wrote:

Bumble wrote:

CCU wrote:

Waltero wrote: They'll be trying to work out another lie to tell us


Whatever, it’s yet another thing that is a) being hidden and b) doesn’t paint them in a good light.

Are CUOSC aware is another question (The answer should be yes, if so, they’re as bad)?


Totally agree CCU. It makes no sense at all to keep him hidden, immediately makes it sems as though there is something to hide, when it actually could be spun into something good and optimistic.

Whether CUOSC is aware is irrelevant, they don't represent the fans. I feel we get more info from the CUSG meetings. I do wish you would reconsider and go to those. Their minutes usualy turn something up of interest.


In fairness we put the option to a users vote, who indicated they didn’t want the Messageboard represented. If folk wanted us to reconsider we’d do so again...


It was obvious you wanted to go to the meetings and get involved last time we had a vote Dan, you were disappointed when the vote didn’t go how you wished. You’re in danger of turning into Nicola Sturgeon! :lol:


Not at all. As I’ve said several times on here, think the idea isn’t bad, but in its current form isn’t up to the job (Up to 3 Reps from each Group? Far too many!)...


Never once in the notes has there been a report of a major disagreement or falling out never mind anybody giving Clibbins a good chinning which I find very disappointing, to say the least.

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02 Jul 2018 17:42 - 02 Jul 2018 17:42 #32 by Wukkie
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Thoughts of CCU with a Nicola Sturgeon hairstyle is quite a disturbing vision. :-)
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02 Jul 2018 17:48 #33 by CCU
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Wukkie wrote: Thoughts of CCU with a Nicola Sturgeon hairstyle is quite a disturbing vision. :-)


Wish I had that much hair! :woohoo:

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02 Jul 2018 19:56 #34 by Mouldy
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Wukkie wrote: Thoughts of CCU with a Nicola Sturgeon hairstyle is quite a disturbing vision. :-)


I reckon it sounds like an improvement

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04 Jul 2018 15:40 #35 by CCU
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Holdsworth stopping at a certain Hotel in Wetheral and running about in Taxi’s will be costing someone a pretty penny... :whistle:

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04 Jul 2018 17:12 #36 by munchymagic
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CCU wrote: Holdsworth stopping at a certain Hotel in Wetheral and running about in Taxi’s will be costing someone a pretty penny... :whistle:


Would an extra player or two not have been a better investment?

Maybe as some have suggested that he is EWM's man on the inside and funded by them to see just what Jenkins is doing with the cash he gives him....

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13 Jul 2018 14:14 - 03 Aug 2018 11:53 #37 by CCU
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13 Jul 2018 14:20 #38 by Happyblue
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I like how the club avoid the world Director of Football while describing the role perfectly

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13 Jul 2018 14:28 #39 by jakeyblain
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Yeah the comments basically say that he is currently our director of football without confirming it or if its permanent

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13 Jul 2018 14:30 #40 by Waltero
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Sounds like an expensive scout to me

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13 Jul 2018 14:37 #41 by CCU
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Waltero wrote: Sounds like an expensive scout to me


Depends who’s paying for him...

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13 Jul 2018 14:48 #42 by nobbyblue
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EWM paying his wages and the manager I heard.

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13 Jul 2018 14:54 #43 by CCU
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The CUSG Minutes refer to some internal restructuring, maybes its all part of that... :whistle:

“Commercial post - Club is re-structuring internally and Jenny Anderson is to take over as commercial manager, in the short term.”

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13 Jul 2018 14:56 - 13 Jul 2018 14:57 #44 by nobbyblue
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Not sure why you'd have him help pick the coach and the players.

Failed manager who has been out the game for years. :unsure:
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13 Jul 2018 16:37 #45 by munchymagic
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nobbyblue wrote: EWM paying his wages and the manager I heard.


If this is true then it was obviously EWM that pulled the plug on Hopkin.

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13 Jul 2018 16:47 #46 by Happyblue
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"If" The EWM stuff is true then how does this fit in with FA Rules on club ownership as its all very sketcy

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13 Jul 2018 18:14 #47 by The Archer
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What a start to his recruitment work, it took an age to get a manager in and we’ve only got half a team with the season starting in 3 weeks...
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13 Jul 2018 19:31 #48 by pacirv
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It’s interesting that his brother Dean was part owner of Bolton until a fall out with the chairman last year. Maybe him and his brother are been lined up by EWN for succession. Doubtful but you never know.

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13 Jul 2018 19:34 #49 by Zebby
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Well if it was EWM who chose the manager I guess it's them we can blame for losing out an exciting young successful manager in Hopkin


Cheers for that...

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pacirv wrote: It’s interesting that his brother Dean was part owner of Bolton until a fall out with the chairman last year. Maybe him and his brother are been lined up by EWN for succession. Doubtful but you never know.



I have noted this before about the David/Dean Holdsworth link, i do think that EWM have brought him in.
I think now EWM/ P Day need to elaborate more on their intentions now before the season starts.

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