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13 Jul 2018 20:39 - 13 Jul 2018 20:40 #51 by carwash
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Zebby wrote: Well if it was EWM who chose the manager I guess it's them we can blame for losing out an exciting young successful manager in Hopkin


Cheers for that...


David Hopkin will be 48 next month. Hardly young for a manager. He's even older than the England manager. :-p
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14 Jul 2018 08:49 #52 by capslockoff
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With the best will in the world, what do EWM know about recruiting football staff? David Holdsworth's CV is patchy at best and you have to question why he is doing what he is said to be.

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14 Jul 2018 08:56 #53 by Zebby
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carwash wrote:

Zebby wrote: Well if it was EWM who chose the manager I guess it's them we can blame for losing out an exciting young successful manager in Hopkin


Cheers for that...


David Hopkin will be 48 next month. Hardly young for a manager. He's even older than the England manager. :-p


Well he's younger than me :P ;)

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14 Jul 2018 09:39 #54 by FishIslandBlues
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Strange one this it's not like he has a track record of proven success in the lower leagues as a DOF!

Why spend the money on him & why not trust JS & his team to do it? I'm sure Sheridan isn't happy about it.

Maybe this is why we're struggling for signings both disagreeing on what & who to sign?!

Looks like a [censored] shambles all round.
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14 Jul 2018 09:50 #55 by pacirv
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It is time that EWM stepped up and stated exactly what their intentions are the vagueness has gone on far to long.

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15 Jul 2018 02:47 #56 by munchymagic
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We have a manager, a director of football and no players.

He cannot be much cop, we should have spent the money on players instead as that is what will bring us success and not another 'suit' that does sod all.
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15 Jul 2018 08:24 #57 by Waltero
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Totally shambolic as usual piss up and brewery springs to mind
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23 Jul 2018 07:36 #58 by nobbyblue
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From yesterdays Trust AGM:

A question was asked about David Holdsworth's role at the club. Billy explained he was helping John Sheridan with recruitment, thanks to his contacts within the game, to allow the manager to concentrate on developing his squad. He'd confirmed with JS that all players signed to date were targets of the manager. Billy said EWM had offered to help the club in football and commercial areas. He accepted that DH had connections with EWM.

So Holdsworth's helping with recruitment but all players we've got in so far were the manager's signings. :unsure:

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23 Jul 2018 08:23 #59 by Waltero
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More bullsh1t from them as usual. They couldn't ly straight in their beds
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23 Jul 2018 08:42 #60 by crunchblue
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I asked a Lincoln fan about Holdsworth and he said if he has any influence in transfers then prepare for a relegation battle.

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23 Jul 2018 09:57 #61 by Waltero
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I already am
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23 Jul 2018 10:45 #62 by Dancingbear
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Waltero wrote: I already am


[censored] of like eh Walt. We havent conceded a goal for two games ;)

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23 Jul 2018 10:50 #63 by Happyblue
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So if he's assitts the with signing process but all the signings are the choice of shriedian and all the negotiating on contract takes place with. Clibbens then what is he doing ?

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23 Jul 2018 11:10 #64 by jelly
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Giving prospective signings a lift from the station

Look, to be fair, the more people involved surely limits the influence of Nixon, Pattinson and Jenkins which has to be a positive.

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23 Jul 2018 12:28 #65 by NORTHERNSOUL
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What i.d like to know is whats his relationship with Day/EWM and how did that come about as-far-as I can see we.re their only footballing interest.

Maybe he was managing one of their ladies fashion outlets when they heard about his football connections and they thought he could be just the man to keep an eye on that senile old git Jenkins and what hes doing with our money.

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23 Jul 2018 13:06 #66 by Waltero
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charming DB I'm really hurt{not}. I thought we were lucky not to have conceded a few at Fylde
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28 Jul 2018 17:32 #67 by CCU
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28 Jul 2018 23:54 #68 by Flatcap
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I wonder if he is responsible for the disappearance of Clibbins

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29 Jul 2018 17:59 #69 by Mouldy
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Flatcap wrote: I wonder if he is responsible for the disappearance of Clibbins


NC was there yesterday...

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03 Aug 2018 11:35 #70 by CCU
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03 Aug 2018 11:40 #71 by Kaiser Blue
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Baffling move. Not sure how I feel but Sheridan really should be doing the things a director of football should at this level. Waste of a wage possibly too.

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03 Aug 2018 11:54 #72 by MerseysideBlue
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That statement is baffling in places. The whole Gretna section, you'd think he'd setup some 20-year footballing dynasty there, not retired there as a player, took over as reserve team boss and then Director of Youth Development before being sacked a few months later as a cost-cutting exercise ahead of the whole club going bust!

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03 Aug 2018 12:04 #73 by sirjimmyglass
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The recruitment this year hasn't exactly been spectacular. We're going into the first game of the season with everyone knowing we're a couple of players short. Wonderful stuff.

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03 Aug 2018 12:08 #74 by CCU
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Kaiser Blue wrote: Baffling move. Not sure how I feel but Sheridan really should be doing the things a director of football should at this level. Waste of a wage possibly too.


Depends who’s paying it...

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03 Aug 2018 12:33 #75 by pacirv
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After all the rumours and denials is finally out in open. Any bets on his brother ex player and until recently part owner of Bolton, taking over under the EWM umbrella at some point if it meant the removal of the three amigos I'd go for that. Can only hope.

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03 Aug 2018 12:41 #76 by Seekaye
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pacirv wrote: After all the rumours and denials is finally out in open. Any bets on his brother ex player and until recently part owner of Bolton, taking over under the EWM umbrella at some point if it meant the removal of the three amigos I'd go for that. Can only hope.


He’d probably say he was going to take over, get his photograph taken with the squad, then sack us off and buy Brentford instead
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03 Aug 2018 12:56 #77 by stu
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PD as owner
His son as Front of house
Dean H as his baby sitter
David H as DoF
JS as manager
Throw in Binns as the club shop
Harry on the lift.(bless).
JN and Sp to Rufus House to get their tax checked
job sorted.
Might need a local scaffolder to prop that lot up.
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03 Aug 2018 13:04 - 03 Aug 2018 13:04 #78 by nobbyblue
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"He was approached by Brooks Mileson to build the club from the ground up, create its distinctive style of play, and establish its winning formula. He is credited with building the team that led to Gretna FC winning promotion from the Scottish Third Division to the Scottish Premier League in less than five years, and reaching the Scottish Cup final in 2006."

That's a load of bollocks for a start.
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03 Aug 2018 13:35 #79 by CCU
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Probably noted our lot use Wiki and self-edited it!!!

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03 Aug 2018 14:20 #80 by Laffy
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I think we should all give the guy the benefit of the doubt despite his CV being cut in half by the Club on the Gretna front-oh for a run like they did but with a happy ending.
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03 Aug 2018 14:29 #81 by Lakelandterrier
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Laffy wrote: I think we should all give the guy the benefit of the doubt despite his CV being cut in half by the Club on the Gretna front-oh for a run like they did but with a happy ending.


Will never happen again with local owners because they wont invest money, but want to be seen as "on the board".
To join the board it must be a pre requisit that an investment of 50k to be put in.

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03 Aug 2018 14:39 #82 by bob hatton 10
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You could add that the Gretna Connection paid for most of a 25% chunk of CUFC

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03 Aug 2018 14:41 #83 by Flatcap
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Director Of Football??

I thought that was Patto's position.:-)
As he is going to act as a key link between the playing side and the Board does this reduce the workload for Clibbins as well?

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03 Aug 2018 15:21 #84 by Happyblue
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Flatcap wrote: Director Of Football??

I thought that was Patto's position.:-)
As he is going to act as a key link between the playing side and the Board does this reduce the workload for Clibbins as well?

Nah easy mistake to make is the Director of Fu*ckall

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03 Aug 2018 16:09 #85 by BlueAl
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Pattinson's busy, got a roof to fix.

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03 Aug 2018 16:27 #86 by nobbyblue
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Waste of money whoever is paying his wages!

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03 Aug 2018 16:43 #87 by Waltero
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And some bird shit to clean up. That'll keep him busy when he gets back from his freebie to Exeter

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24 Aug 2018 10:00 #88 by CCU
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24 Aug 2018 10:11 #89 by BlueRay
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Doesn’t mind dropping a name does he?

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24 Aug 2018 10:12 #90 by Dancingbear
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Read as far as him telling us who Chris Waddle is and I’ve had enough. He must think we live on Mars or summat.

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24 Aug 2018 10:15 - 24 Aug 2018 10:17 #91 by nobbyblue
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He was a right bell end when he was at Gretna and hasn't changed by the sound of it. 24 hours a day job my arse!

How come he did 200 journeys down south when he was living in Carlisle when at Gretna is what I would have asked him.
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24 Aug 2018 10:21 #92 by sirjimmyglass
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Very thinly veiled propaganda, that article.

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24 Aug 2018 10:44 #93 by Laffy
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Maybe but at least he has some credentials in football-suggest he’s given a chance to prove himself

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24 Aug 2018 12:17 #94 by nobbyblue
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Laffy wrote: Maybe but at least he has some credentials in football-suggest he’s given a chance to prove himself


What credentials are these? Failed manager and been out the game for years as far as I can see.

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24 Aug 2018 12:21 #95 by carwash
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sirjimmyglass wrote: Very thinly veiled propaganda, that article.


But it is absolutely in line with what I and others have been saying about his role which is to scrutinise all player contracts that are given out to make sure they are as ungenerous as possible. Bringing youth players through is another major part of his job. He's also not afraid to criticise what Curle did and Clibbens too by implication for allowing Curle's 'incentive' contracts which were economic madness.

He's not going to win any popularity contest in the role he's doing but I'm sure he won't care.
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24 Aug 2018 12:34 #96 by CCU
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carwash wrote: He's not going to win any popularity contest in the role he's doing but I'm sure he won't care.


Yep, as long as EWM are sure they'll get their cash back in time!

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24 Aug 2018 12:36 #97 by Laffy
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nobbyblue wrote:

Laffy wrote: Maybe but at least he has some credentials in football-suggest he’s given a chance to prove himself


What credentials are these? Failed manager and been out the game for years as far as I can see.


Let me put it another way-the benchmark set is not a challenge given recent times.

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24 Aug 2018 12:43 #98 by nobbyblue
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carwash wrote:

sirjimmyglass wrote: Very thinly veiled propaganda, that article.


But it is absolutely in line with what I and others have been saying about his role which is to scrutinise all player contracts that are given out to make sure they are as ungenerous as possible. Bringing youth players through is another major part of his job. He's also not afraid to criticise what Curle did and Clibbens too by implication for allowing Curle's 'incentive' contracts which were economic madness.

He's not going to win any popularity contest in the role he's doing but I'm sure he won't care.


I don't think it was Keith Curle's job to balance the books unless I've missed something.
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24 Aug 2018 14:34 #99 by Dancingbear
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carwash wrote:

sirjimmyglass wrote: Very thinly veiled propaganda, that article.


But it is absolutely in line with what I and others have been saying about his role which is to scrutinise all player contracts that are given out to make sure they are as ungenerous as possible. Bringing youth players through is another major part of his job. He's also not afraid to criticise what Curle did and Clibbens too by implication for allowing Curle's 'incentive' contracts which were economic madness.

He's not going to win any popularity contest in the role he's doing but I'm sure he won't care.


But according to Clibbens hes working for and being paid by the club so why would he be criticising Clibbens? Unless of course someones being disingenuous somewhere.

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24 Aug 2018 16:45 #100 by carwash
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The Club overspent with generous incentive based contracts. Holdsworth has come in and said that he doesn't like these contracts and said some players were getting more than they were worth. Agreed it wasn't Curle's job to oversee his own spending but he should have been better at getting value for money. Clibbens gets just as much criticism for not controlling what Curle was spending. Holdsworth being paid by the club doesn't affect anything. EWM are of the view that the Club's finances were out of control because of overspending on players. Holdsworth is there to put that right.

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