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24 Jul 2018 10:02 - 23 May 2020 16:29 #1 by CCU
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A69 improvements - Seems to be more the Newcastle end at present, but anything is welcome...


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24 Jul 2018 10:08 #2 by empty
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Just to the roundabouts at Corbridge and Hexham. Replacing them with bridges or tunnel under existing roads. Nee dual carraiging anywhere extra

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24 Jul 2018 11:40 #3 by HuntingHorn
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This is the joke 'fob-off' package we've been saddled with while the A66 is duelled.

This will not in any way improve the road or lower journey times between Newcastle & Carlisle. I
t will reduce the wait between 8-9am to get in to Hexham and reduce the waiting time for poor sods looking to pull out of the junction onto the A69 from the A68 Corbridge roundabout.
Everything else stays just as dangerous and slow as ever.

We can expect a handful more 'Gatso' Speed cameras to pop up in the meantime too, just for fun.

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24 Jul 2018 15:36 #4 by pacirv
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The road should be dual carriageway all the way.

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24 Jul 2018 15:39 #5 by ParcelPete
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Don't think you can improve a 69.

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24 Jul 2018 15:45 #6 by Mouldy
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ParcelPete wrote: Don't think you can improve a 69.


A 69 back to front 6?

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27 Jul 2018 14:33 - 27 Jul 2018 14:53 #7 by yoonited
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Voted UK's favorite "motorway". They got that upgrade done quick, I was only on it yesterday afternoon when it took me 3 hours to get to Scotch Corner from Carlisle due to the M6 being shut at Preston. Took me 9 hours to get to South London, still better than my record for the trip which once took me 12 and a half hours due to a pile-up at Sandbach.


www.newsandstar.co.uk/news/The-A66-has-b...8d84-164b04751ca9-ds


Edit:- They've just altered the article and dropped any mention of the A66, which was referred to as "motorway."

2nd edit:- Gap insurance clearly still think it is.........

www.insurethegap.com/articles/rating-the-uks-motorways
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27 Jul 2018 15:44 #8 by carwash
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The A66 is definitely my favourite road that doesn't begin A1.... I love the comment that there is rarely any debris. Yes those crows are really good at clearing up the dead sheep and other roadkill.

With the M25 there is definitely a north/south divide. The northern section generally works pretty well but the southern section most times is hell on earth with slow traffic and massive traffic jams.

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27 Jul 2018 15:52 - 27 Jul 2018 16:05 #9 by Bumble
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I'm not going to be keen on the A66 when they close it for 7 consequative weekends, from September, from Penrith to Brough, from 8pm Friday to 3am Monday.

Not looking foward to it at all.
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27 Jul 2018 16:10 #10 by Yorkie Blue
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Love the view, when heading west and in good weather, going over Stainmore and seeing the Lake District fells arranged along the western horizon.

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27 Jul 2018 16:19 #11 by yoonited
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The thing i particularly noticed about my trip down the A1(M), A14 and M11 yesterday was the massive amount of lorry tyre debris, never noticed so much before. Presumably HGV tyres are much more prone to disintegrating in this sort of weather.

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27 Jul 2018 21:37 #12 by carwash
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The lorry tyre debris is there all the year round. I think it is a combination of vast amounts of lorry traffic and cheap remoulds losing their tread as you don't often see whole casings from a blowout.

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27 Jul 2018 22:00 #13 by munchymagic
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Cheapness has always been the way forward in the haulage business but you quickly realise that you are spending more on call outs than tyres, false economy

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27 Jul 2018 22:06 #14 by Dancingbear
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yoonited wrote: The thing i particularly noticed about my trip down the A1(M), A14 and M11 yesterday was the massive amount of lorry tyre debris, never noticed so much before. Presumably HGV tyres are much more prone to disintegrating in this sort of weather.


Do you do that route often? If you do out of interest how long would you expect it to take from Penrith to Epping? I’ll add 45 mins on for my trip to Penrith. Thanks in advance.

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28 Jul 2018 09:23 #15 by yoonited
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I've done this trip about once a month for the last 33 years. Carwash, the last time was just before the hot spell of weather, but on Thursday there was easily ten times the amount of HGV tyre debris that I would normally see, I even had to take evasive action to avoid hitting large pieces on several occasions. I've had a look online and in hot weather large commercial tyres are much more prone to exploding or breaking up if they're over or under inflated.

Dancingbear, in normal traffic going via Scotch Corner I'd allow 4 to 4 and a half hours of travelling. However at the moment there's a huge section of roadworks with 40mph speed limit on the A14 past Cambridge causing big delays, if you're attending an event you can't be late for then you need to add plenty of extra time.
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28 Jul 2018 10:07 #16 by newcarlislefan
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Dancingbear wrote:

yoonited wrote: The thing i particularly noticed about my trip down the A1(M), A14 and M11 yesterday was the massive amount of lorry tyre debris, never noticed so much before. Presumably HGV tyres are much more prone to disintegrating in this sort of weather.


Do you do that route often? If you do out of interest how long would you expect it to take from Penrith to Epping? I’ll add 45 mins on for my trip to Penrith. Thanks in advance.


We do the A1 A66 part of this route a lot coming up from Bedford. You probably have another 30 odd miles to got than we do.
We stop on the way at Wetherby for a break and it usually takes us 4 to 4 1 hours.
As long as you avoid rush hour if you can it's a nice run.
I like the A1. Nice old road with plenty of greenery, relatively speaking, and much nicer than the concrete hell of the M1 and M6 wheer you're almost guaranteed delays.
It is busy as you head down the A1 towards the A14 and there is a speed limit which will slow you right down.
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28 Jul 2018 10:32 #17 by carwash
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Yes 4 - 4 1/2 hours even with the A14 roadworks from the Epping turn-off on the M11 to Penrith. It's the same time for me as going up the A19 to the Tyne Tunnel instead of going towards Penrith.
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28 Jul 2018 11:04 #18 by yoonited
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I can't stand being ripped off for the dismal food fayre usually provided at motorway services. If I ever need to stop, I go into Wetherby (only a couple of mile detour as you can drive right through and rejoin the A1 regardless of which way you're travelling). Parking is never a problem even right in the middle (North Street), where there's a Morrison's so you can go in and use the loos if needed. Also on North Street is the best bakers shop I've ever come across, called The Oven Door, I can usually park near enough right outside it. Their pies, pasties and sausage rolls are fabulous and far cheaper than Gregg's rubbish. They've always got a couple of soups on and although I've not got a sweet tooth friends I've taken there whilst travelling say the cakes/danish pastries are also fantastic. You can buy a bag full of stuff to munch that'll keep you filled all day for £3, instead of being mugged for a fiver for a single clammy tasteless sandwich or 'wrap' that leaves you still feeling hungry an hour later. Well worth a try instead of using Wetherby services.
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28 Jul 2018 23:40 #19 by Dancingbear
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Thanks for the replies lads. I’ve been known to visit the Wetherby Whaler in the past. Is this bakers near there? Could be a option for a change.

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29 Jul 2018 08:43 #20 by yoonited
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I've been to The Whaler too, it's in Market Place a couple of hundred yards to the West of where The Oven Door is. North Street is the main drag running North to South through the town, as you come off the A1 from the North it's in the parade of shops on the left hand side, just after the entrance to the shopping arcade where Morrison's is (don't get confused with Morrison's petrol station which you'll also pass on the way in half a mile further up).

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30 Jul 2018 00:52 #21 by Dancingbear
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Thanks. It shall be my official stopping point :)

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10 Jul 2019 17:07 - 10 Jul 2019 17:07 #22 by CCU
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11 Jul 2019 08:13 #23 by HuntingHorn
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May as well set fire to that £30m then...because the monkeys running Northumberland council will waste every penny of it.
They'll be lucky to have enough to resurface the two roundabouts by the time they've stopped arguing about the plans for it.
It's an absolute pile of dog turd they've settled on...

I read somewhere the money they're wasting on the roundabouts would have duelled the full length between Haltwhistle and Brampton....which would you rather have? If that's right they should be immediately sacked from position for gross incompetence.

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11 Jul 2019 08:22 #24 by Mush
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The road is dual carriageway up until Hexham, it's the cumbria bit and up to Hexham that needs the money spent on it. Bloody central government! :-(

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11 Jul 2019 08:50 #25 by Markovitch
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Northumberland and Cumbria agreed it would be dualled from Newcastle to Carlisle. But Northumberland aren't allowed to dual roads until they dual the a1 under some rule they have, and they don't have the money for that. Cumbria won't dual their bit until Northumberland dual their half and hence the impasse. This is Opperman therefore wanting some money spent from central funds on roads, so he can boast how he is improving transport links when in reality he is doing bugger all
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11 Jul 2019 10:06 #26 by yoonited
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ParcelPete wrote: Don't think you can improve a 69.


You can when a female participates.

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11 Jul 2019 13:34 #27 by HuntingHorn
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Markovitch wrote: Northumberland and Cumbria agreed it would be dualled from Newcastle to Carlisle. But Northumberland aren't allowed to dual roads until they dual the a1 under some rule they have, and they don't have the money for that. Cumbria won't dual their bit until Northumberland dual their half and hence the impasse. This is Opperman therefore wanting some money spent from central funds on roads, so he can boast how he is improving transport links when in reality he is doing bugger all


I'm not sure about the A1 bit, I think from folk I've talked to over the years it's more to do with the fact that compared to many roads in the South it has a shadow of the volume of traffic on it by comparison and therefore is just never high enough up the priority list to dual the A69...one even said that it needs a spate of high profile deaths on it before it'll be taken seriously.

Regards Opperman...he's without the shadow of a doubt the worst incumbent we've ever had in Hexham. A totally self serving, lying and idle MP.

The number of things he's signed off on that have a profound and unforgivable effect on his own constituents, particularly regarding Healthcare and NHS services is disgusting.
He's the master of passing the buck, it's never his fault, not even the lady who killed herself under so much stress because he and his department denied her the pension she was rightfully owed, she took her own life with about £5 left in her account.
So if he's got a hand in improving our infrastructure expect it to be delayed while others get their wish and if we et anything it will be a shambles.

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11 Jul 2019 13:47 #28 by CCU
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Ironically there’s been several bad accidents in the last couple of weeks between the Brampton roundabout and Hexham, road closed couple of times etc.

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11 Jul 2019 13:51 #29 by Mush
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There's always accidents on it.

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11 Jul 2019 13:51 #30 by HuntingHorn
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CCU wrote: Ironically there’s been several bad accidents in the last couple of weeks between the Brampton roundabout and Hexham, road closed couple of times etc.


I've sent him emails, letters, posts on facebook in which he's tagged reminding him of just how many of these there are...trust me he doesn't give a shit.

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11 Jul 2019 17:59 #31 by Markovitch
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I was quite sad to hear that HH. He was my MP when my wife was refused entry to the UK. She is a British Chartered Accountant and spent many years at the UN. I sent him an email at 4pm on a Saturday, his staff replied at 4.30 and on the Monday morning about 11 called to say a letter had gone to the FCO. I don't like his politics but his staff were brilliant

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11 Jul 2019 23:31 #32 by Laffy
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I’m not a fan of Opperman myself and he’s our MP-he is however more in tune with the electorate than a previous Hexham MP who was caught on Hampstead Heath-not playing with badgers.After that experience, the local party are keen to avoid extroverts and plump for normal. Opperman is nothing if not normal.

Peter Atkinson was a decent guy though he kept his head down most of the time.

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11 Jul 2019 23:39 - 11 Jul 2019 23:39 #33 by ParcelPete
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On Hampstead Heath ?
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12 Jul 2019 07:38 #34 by CarlisleWhite
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ParcelPete wrote: On Hampstead Heath ?

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12 Jul 2019 08:38 #35 by HuntingHorn
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Laffy, Alan Amos got me a passport when Liverpool Passport office were being absolute imbeciles....I had a running battle for months where they'd take my form off me, then send nothing out, you'd contact them only to be told you'd not done some seriously minor like not cross "t"
I lost my rag and phoned Amos and in two days I had a passport....he may have been up to no good on the heath but he got me a passport ;-)

Would that be the same Peter Atkinson that 'kept his head down' by reading from the phone book in parliament to make sure a piece of legislation couldn't be debated and passed?
He was a real stand up guy, that little move earned him universal contempt in the house because it was so vapid!!!

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12 Jul 2019 08:54 #36 by Laffy
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Problem for Amos was that kind of love action didn’t sit well with the Hexham Association-the chat at the time was that he had no reason to be in London at all other than to visit the park.By all accounts, he was a hard working MP though.

Atkinson was an establishment choice-after the Hampstead incident, no surprise.He was the only Tory mp in the NE for a while though he nearly lost the seat.

Opperman floats around but don’t really see him sticking his neck out to be honest.

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23 May 2020 16:16 #37 by CCU
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Grant Shapps just confirmed the dualling of the A66 from Penrith to Scotch Corner in today’s Corona Briefing...

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23 May 2020 16:22 #38 by BlueAl
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Good news. Will it be completed in a month, same as those hospitals they built?

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23 May 2020 16:24 #39 by topstepwhinger
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CCU wrote: Grant Shapps just confirmed the dualling of the A66 from Penrith to Scotch Corner in today’s Corona Briefing...


Whilst this is obviously good news, what do you think this will mean for the potential dualling of the A69?

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23 May 2020 16:25 #40 by orfc
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Good news, but why's it getting chucked in a corona briefing? Are the viruses meant to be scared or something?

It's like they don't have any good news on the virus, so each minister chucks the press a bone from their own department. Remember Priti Vacant and the reduced shoplifting good news ("aye, 'cos they're all shut love")

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23 May 2020 16:28 #41 by CCU
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topstepwhinger wrote:

CCU wrote: Grant Shapps just confirmed the dualling of the A66 from Penrith to Scotch Corner in today’s Corona Briefing...


Whilst this is obviously good news, what do you think this will mean for the potential dualling of the A69?


I’ve just merged two Threads into one here about the A66 & A69. Have a scroll up this one...

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23 May 2020 16:48 #42 by Bruntonpasty
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I agree it is bizarre to make these announcements in these briefings...but, it is good news as it will presumably help the economy in the long term, initially in the construction sector, then in general transport terms and finally maybe an improvement in the safety of this road. Don't expect these changes to come in a hurry though.........

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23 May 2020 17:15 #43 by Dancingbear
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Has Greggs stayed open at Scotch Corner services? Could be key to my essential travel plans.

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23 May 2020 18:58 #44 by yoonited
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CCU wrote:
I’ve just merged two Threads into one here about the A66 & A69. Have a scroll up this one...

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You merged without warning having totally failed to indicate your intention before carrying out this manoeuvre and anyway you should have given way.
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23 May 2020 22:30 #45 by Dancingbear
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yoonited wrote:

CCU wrote:
I’ve just merged two Threads into one here about the A66 & A69. Have a scroll up this one...

;)


You merged without warning having totally failed to indicate your intention before carrying out this manoeuvre and anyway you should have given way.


Not to mention the big pile up caused in Alston.

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24 May 2020 00:28 #46 by hampshire_blue
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carwash wrote: The A66 is definitely my favourite road that doesn't begin A1.... I love the comment that there is rarely any debris. Yes those crows are really good at clearing up the dead sheep and other roadkill.

With the M25 there is definitely a north/south divide. The northern section generally works pretty well but the southern section most times is hell on earth with slow traffic and massive traffic jams.


Between Heathrow and Dartford, the M25 is a cock of a road. I’ve been using the A3 instead the last couple of years instead when going to Kent from Southampton. Although M25/M11 junction is also a prick. I now go up the A1, across to Duxford on the A505 to catch the A11 when heading to Norfolk.

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25 May 2020 12:27 #47 by Jumpforfun
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Can't believe no ones made the obvious "makes it quicker to get to Barnard Castle" joke.

So I just have.
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25 May 2020 13:14 #48 by HuntingHorn
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Funny this thread popping back up...

Not long before lockdown began a local councillor was taking his next step in his personal crusade to embarrass Highways England (he’s doing a good job too, if only the press would get behind him)

He went to a meeting with the highways clowns and our MP where he produced a genuine set of planS for the A69 dating from the 1930’s...the A69 was cleared in the 30’s for dual carriageway it’s full length and the only reason they didn’t manage it was because of the war and the debt we were left with afterwards.
It was put on hold from 1946 and to this day hasn’t been restarted due to paying back war debt...but we paid that back and no work has ever restarted, it’s been conveniently shelved and denied in order to do anything and everything first.
I’ve seen the plans myself and they even include a Separate cycle lane!!! Proof we haven’t always been myopic clampets in the DoTransport

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25 May 2020 13:15 #49 by Dancingbear
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Jumpforfun wrote: Can't believe no ones made the obvious "makes it quicker to get to Barnard Castle" joke.

So I just have.


Only if your going for a Greggs at Scotch corner en route ;)

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25 May 2020 15:59 #50 by topstepwhinger
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I don't think is is due to myopic Department of Transport/ Highways Authorities who no doubt have countless plans gathering dust. It is more to do with this country allowing everyone to have its say resulting in so many obstacles being put in the way of any major infrastructure project. By the time we are up to Plan Z and the umpteenth public inquiry there's no money left to carry out the work. Look at the length of time it has taken to get HS2 as far as it has. Other countries just seem to get on with it, which is one reason why we seem to lag behind so many other countries in terms of infrastructure.
Instead of saying this is what we are doing and this is why and when, we are pandering to peoples concerns over newts, bats or a couple of oak trees. Democracy is good, but some times decisive decisions just have to be made.
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