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23 Dec 2019 17:25 #1101 by seesaw50
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Well if they don't retire off the gang of 3 it might just be the same

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23 Dec 2019 17:26 #1102 by borderterrier
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EWM. It’s a complete mystery as the media and most importantly the fans know nothing. It’s clear that they are damaging any future relationship before it starts.

It is my belief that CUFC is owned and run by (undisclosed). CLUBKILLERS
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23 Dec 2019 17:37 #1103 by Ibogaine
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Lads on the bench nice and cosy in cashmere knits and Pringle socks

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23 Dec 2019 18:19 #1104 by CCU
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Ibogaine wrote: Lads on the bench nice and cosy in cashmere knits and Pringle socks


Can see Beech in a nice tartan cardigan...

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23 Dec 2019 19:55 #1105 by Mush
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CCU wrote:

Ibogaine wrote: Lads on the bench nice and cosy in cashmere knits and Pringle socks


Can see Beech in a nice tartan cardigan...


I'd say a clowns suit would be more fitting, he can borrow Pressley's..
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23 Dec 2019 20:59 #1106 by Wukkie
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Passed down by Abbott of course. The original clown.
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23 Dec 2019 22:25 #1107 by Dentonholmersimpson
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I've supported this club since the early 60's.

There are 92 clubs in our leagues as it stands, the way football is now televised and promoted worldwide you would thought a club like ours would be attractive to potential investors.

I have never been keen on overseas investors just because there wouldn't be a real local connection.

It is every fans dream to have a local businessman, a la Fred Story to take the club on and build it up sensibly without breaking the bank, we are never going to be in the Champions Leauge.

Now we have a local businessman, a billionaire no less,running the club and where are we? A few points off the National League.

It is the frustration of not knowing what's going on that kills peoples enthusiasm, for christ sake just give us a clue.
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24 Dec 2019 00:43 #1108 by Bluedazblue
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Wukkie wrote: Passed down by Abbott of course. The original clown.


To be honest I'd be happier with Abbott as manager right now. OK, it wouldn't be exciting and the football might be poor, but there's no way we'd languishing at the bottom end of L2 with him in charge. He at least kept us in L1 for a few seasons and he could identify a decent player, even if he didn't know how or where to play him.

Pressley and the current manager, from his team selections and post-match interviews seem to in a different category entirely.
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25 Dec 2019 17:11 #1109 by Wukkie
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Abbott never did as well as should've when he took over someone else's team and as soon as he brought his own players in it was all downhill from there and the decline still continues.

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25 Dec 2019 17:52 #1110 by munchymagic
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Wukkie wrote: Abbott never did as well as should've when he took over someone else's team and as soon as he brought his own players in it was all downhill from there and the decline still continues.


Shades of Pressley there.

Curle was the last Carlisle manager to build a decent side and before that Simpson.
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25 Dec 2019 19:08 #1111 by Dancingbear
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25 Dec 2019 19:09 #1112 by Dancingbear
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We didnt get progressively worse under Gregg but we did keep him past his sell by date.

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26 Dec 2019 10:32 #1113 by CCU
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Dancingbear wrote: We didnt get progressively worse under Gregg but we did keep him past his sell by date.


Said it a hundred times before on here. Under Abbott we had year on year improvement in L1, until his last full Season (12/13). We should’ve parted that Summer like we did with Curle.

Abbott also had plenty of contacts for bringing in Loans, we had some crackers under him.

Far, far better Manager than most like to give him credit for some unknown reason...

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26 Dec 2019 11:10 #1114 by Mullen103
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I heard this morning that the proposal from EWM wasn't a takeover but "succession" as the trust have said - for example in Jenkins demise his shares will go straight to EWM, the same for any other director in their demise or they decide to leave. No takeover by EWM is live and they aren't planning to buy the shares only get them transferred when circumstances arrive.

At least we’re not Stockport

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26 Dec 2019 11:34 #1115 by whytakemypostcode
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So nothing is going to change! Years of the same: austerity, Nixon and Holdsworth, low crowds, and probable non league football.

Controlled by a billionaire, and this is where we are. An absolute farce.

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26 Dec 2019 12:00 #1116 by Bruntonpasty
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Mullen103 wrote: I heard this morning that the proposal from EWM wasn't a takeover but "succession" as the trust have said - for example in Jenkins demise his shares will go straight to EWM, the same for any other director in their demise or they decide to leave. No takeover by EWM is live and they aren't planning to buy the shares only get them transferred when circumstances arrive.



Not doubting you here Mullen, but this doesn't just add up for me in some ways. Ok, the custodians got it for basically nowt. Jenkins has propped it up(not investment in my opinion) the others have added token sums and lead the high life on the back of it. So, now we have EWM doing the Jenkins roll after he passes, the other two are of little consequence other than their damaging influence but their shares will end up with EWM, the question begs, where will the club be by the time this succession actually takes place? still in the EFL? Higher up than L2? (I doubt this is likely) or down the pyramid somewhere? I suppose you have to ask, can the current arrangement possibly take us forward or retain it's current level? As it stands, I'm pretty disillusioned with the whole situation and our prospects for the future......

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26 Dec 2019 12:28 #1117 by Mush
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CCU wrote:

Dancingbear wrote: We didnt get progressively worse under Gregg but we did keep him past his sell by date.


Said it a hundred times before on here. Under Abbott we had year on year improvement in L1, until his last full Season (12/13). We should’ve parted that Summer like we did with Curle.

Abbott also had plenty of contacts for bringing in Loans, we had some crackers under him.

Far, far better Manager than most like to give him credit for some unknown reason...


He brought too many loans in, some were really good like Marshall etc but there was some crap ones too.

I would disagree about him being a good manager, he was clueless a lot of the time and had many favourites who performed shockingly but still get picked each week.
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26 Dec 2019 12:53 #1118 by CCU
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For his first four Season’s he improved year on year at a level above our current one.

You clearly know zip about football if that equates to ‘clueless’...

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26 Dec 2019 14:25 #1119 by CUFC52
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Personally feel Greg did an excellent job (media interviews didn’t help his legacy).

Needed the backing the year we missed out on the playoffs or with signing Garner the following season and we’d of gone up.

Last season was too poor (arguably due to budget) think he was maybe a bit too loyal to some players when he had the chance to rebuild.

Top manager, unfortunate he didn’t get that last bit of success, shame he didn’t get a decent job after.

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26 Dec 2019 14:54 #1120 by Mush
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CCU wrote: For his first four Season’s he improved year on year at a level above our current one.

You clearly know zip about football if that equates to ‘clueless’...


Sorry I should of elaborated on my 'clueless' remark -
His tactics and team selections were not the best near the end of his tender.

He was full of shit every post match interview as well, enough worse than Pressley and the way he when from an assistant who was always shouting instructions etc on the touchline to sitting in the dugout doing nothing when he knew Ward could get sacked was a disgrace, slime ball.

Just because I disagree with your opinion on him doesn't mean I know nothing about football pal :-)
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26 Dec 2019 14:57 #1121 by Mush
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Keith Curle did a better job than Abbott, he was left with a poor squad where as Abbott took over a decent one.
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27 Dec 2019 11:30 #1122 by CCU
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Mush wrote: Keith Curle did a better job than Abbott, he was left with a poor squad where as Abbott took over a decent one.


Were you pissed when you wrote this?!

;)

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29 Dec 2019 11:21 #1123 by Chilledsilly
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I enjoyed Abbots tenure...I'm always seeing ex abbot players championship to premier league...
Dont see many players from the other managers playing higher up the league..?

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29 Dec 2019 13:17 #1124 by Mush
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CCU wrote:

Mush wrote: Keith Curle did a better job than Abbott, he was left with a poor squad where as Abbott took over a decent one.


Were you pissed when you wrote this?!

;)


Sober as a judge. You've just got your favourites pal :-)

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02 Jan 2020 00:54 #1125 by High Street
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No mention of Fred using Mileson’s Trust money, or Mileson paying player’s wages, during his tenure as owner?
Or perhaps his very cosy relationship with Phil Rostron?

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30 Jan 2020 21:49 #1126 by CCU
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Credit to Arragon in the CUSG Thread for noticing this recently, Jon Colman has now done an article on it:


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30 Jan 2020 22:10 #1127 by Arragorn
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Looks like Jon Colman reads the message board :)
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30 Jan 2020 22:17 #1128 by melbourneblues
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Jon Colman = Ibo.

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31 Jan 2020 00:58 #1129 by Patterdale Terrier
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31 Jan 2020 01:17 #1130 by munchymagic
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When Alessandra was interviewed he said that he had seen what people had said or something along those lines about him being an underwhelming signing so I would guess that he reads this forum too.

Lets face it - if you were a player or club owner then you wouldn't be able to resist a sneaky peak at the board to see what people are saying.

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31 Jan 2020 08:45 #1131 by pacirv
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Interesting move, just another EWM business move or a connection to the succession deal at the club?

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19 Mar 2020 18:12 #1132 by 09sider
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If EWM are making cost savings by making people redundant so soon into the crisis, what chance do we have of them buying the club in the summer?

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19 Mar 2020 19:15 #1133 by Arragorn
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None!

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19 Mar 2020 20:13 #1134 by thesilentone
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Dirty trick by EWM at a time when people are most vulnerable. A decision they will live to regret.
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19 Mar 2020 22:25 #1135 by thetashkentterror
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They're really not endearing themselves to the fans for a takeover that's for sure.

Refuse to tell the fans anything at all as to their intentions for the club. They are worse than the board in that respect.

Propping up a failed regime at CUFC.

Now crapping on their staff from a great height.
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19 Mar 2020 22:31 #1136 by topstepwhinger
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Must be down to his last 100 million.
Your'e correct, people won't forget.

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19 Mar 2020 22:52 #1137 by Dancingbear
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Problem is they will though. He’ll be the messiah if he takes over. For a short while anyway.

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20 Mar 2020 03:41 #1138 by Waltero
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Especially if he boots the three Stooges down the road

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20 Mar 2020 06:55 #1139 by melbourneblues
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He won’t be no hero in my eyes, I think he’s an ignoramus the way he ignores people’s requests for interviews and keeping the fans in the dark.
I would much rather have approachable local businessmen in who are accountable for what they do.

Mullen is a virgin.
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20 Mar 2020 07:06 #1140 by nobbyblue
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I'm not religious at all but I'm a great believer in Karma.

What goes around comes around!

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20 Mar 2020 08:53 #1141 by ParcelPete
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nobbyblue wrote: I'm not religious at all but I'm a great believer in Karma.

What goes around comes around!


A carousel.
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20 Mar 2020 15:03 #1142 by baggieblue
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ParcelPete wrote:

nobbyblue wrote: I'm not religious at all but I'm a great believer in Karma.

What goes around comes around!


A carousel.


Corona virus

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20 Mar 2020 16:10 #1143 by 09sider
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Maybe the three horsemen will now realise there's no rainbow let alone a pot of gold waiting for them if they refuse to talk to potential new owners.

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20 Mar 2020 16:21 #1144 by Waltero
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In their deluded minds they still believe they're doing a good job

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20 Mar 2020 20:15 #1145 by Laffy
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Well it is true that EWM are making people redundant-something I would be loathe to do in this environment.In normal times, making people redundant, however difficult, at least gives them a chance of another position.However these are exceptional times and shedding like this is really poor-only hours before the much trailed and hugely welcome safety net provided by the Chancellor.

Pathetic-appalling timing and very poor
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20 Mar 2020 22:33 #1146 by Mullen103
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The EWM layoffs came as complete shocks to them - all less than the 2 year safety net. Awful awful by EWM and if they only waited. The staff can go back to EWM though and claim the 80%, as they were still employed after the 28th February - so bad publicity for EWM.

I was employed on a 16 hour contract as a disability advisor started March 2nd. It was suspended without pay last Tuesday as it was impossible to do anything - I suppose I’ll qualify for the 80%. Is it for me to do it, or does the company have to do it.

At least we’re not Stockport

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20 Mar 2020 23:29 #1147 by NORTHERNSOUL
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Mullen103 wrote: The EWM layoffs came as complete shocks to them - all less than the 2 year safety net. Awful awful by EWM and if they only waited. The staff can go back to EWM though and claim the 80%, as they were still employed after the 28th February - so bad publicity for EWM.

I was employed on a 16 hour contract as a disability advisor started March 2nd. It was suspended without pay last Tuesday as it was impossible to do anything - I suppose I’ll qualify for the 80%. Is it for me to do it, or does the company have to do it.


As I understand it all you have to do is to tell your employer that you wish to be put on it

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21 Mar 2020 06:22 #1148 by Lakelandterrier
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Mullen103 wrote: The EWM layoffs came as complete shocks to them - all less than the 2 year safety net. Awful awful by EWM and if they only waited. The staff can go back to EWM though and claim the 80%, as they were still employed after the 28th February - so bad publicity for EWM.

I was employed on a 16 hour contract as a disability advisor started March 2nd. It was suspended without pay last Tuesday as it was impossible to do anything - I suppose I’ll qualify for the 80%. Is it for me to do it, or does the company have to do it.


Your employer applies for it.

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21 Mar 2020 10:54 #1149 by thesilentone
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If you're laid off, this is completely different to your position being terminated.

If you have been terminated, then you cannot claim the 80% as I see it.

How employers act over the coming days/weeks will be remembered for years to come. As it is EWM have been ruthless at a time of need, for this they will never be forgiven. Who in their right mind would work for such a Company ?

Greed is a terrible motivator, the Government has put in sufficient safety nets to avoid kicking people out to protect the bottom line.

As it is, EWM were going through a sxit time without Coronovirus. However they have sufficient resources to ride this problem. There are no better than Sports Direct or BHS.
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21 Mar 2020 11:06 #1150 by thesilentone
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These figures do not look good for Cumbria:

www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/20/co...ses-are-in-your-area

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