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09 Jan 2019 13:02 #101 by CCU
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crunchblue wrote: Reading Barton’s comments that he’s a possible starter for the weekend, I’m now convinced that this “if we can we’ll get Nadesan” line from CUFC was just total bollocks to make it look like they are trying.


Or maybe Barton is using it as an angle to get a few K more out of us


Especially given Evans and Madden are both scoring goals at the moment?

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09 Jan 2019 14:01 #102 by heilkmoon
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crunchblue wrote: Reading Barton’s comments that he’s a possible starter for the weekend, I’m now convinced that this “if we can we’ll get Nadesan” line from CUFC was just total bollocks to make it look like they are trying.


Or maybe Barton is using it as an angle to get a few K more out of us


Especially given Evans and Madden are both scoring goals at the moment?


Sounds to me the sort of thing most managers would say in the circumstances, just underlining that he's still their player until such time as they get an acceptable offer for him.

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09 Jan 2019 16:05 #103 by Zebby
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Barton said last week he would be challenging for a first team place on his return,gotta take him at his word he's only reiterating what he's been saying and tbh why would he let him go if he scores 10 and makes 5 assists for them between now and end of year your looking at a million pound striker in the making

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09 Jan 2019 17:15 #104 by bejustandfearprokas
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Just announced that Ched Evans will be suspended for two matches because of abuse towards an official - makes sense for Barton to say Nadeson will be in squad for Saturday now.

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09 Jan 2019 17:18 #105 by munchymagic
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bejustandfearprokas wrote: Just announced that Ched Evans will be suspended for two matches because of abuse towards an official - makes sense for Barton to say Nadeson will be in squad for Saturday now.


Ched Evans fault it is then that they wont let us have Nadesan back.

Money talks however.

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09 Jan 2019 17:29 - 09 Jan 2019 17:30 #106 by ParcelPete
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bejustandfearprokas wrote: Just announced that Ched Evans will be suspended for two matches because of abuse towards an official - makes sense for Barton to say Nadeson will be in squad for Saturday now.


Ched Evans fault it is then that they wont let us have Nadesan back.

Money talks however.


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09 Jan 2019 17:33 #107 by crunchblue
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I don’t think there’s a chance with either him or Sowerby now, especially given a striker and a midfielder left fleetwood yesterday.

Hopefully we get Yates back

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09 Jan 2019 17:44 #108 by CCU
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They’ve got Evans, Madden, Burns and Hunter who are all playing, and scoring goals.

That’s with Nadesan having been here and Long banished and now at Blackpool.

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09 Jan 2019 17:46 #109 by pedals
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It's amusing when people get hung up on every single word that comes out of managers' mouths. Sheridan wrote that he wanted everybody to stick together and then left the next day. Barton is hardly going to say anything other than that Nadesan and Sowerby are part of his plans. They clearly can't be pivotal to his aspirations there as they wouldn't have been sent to us in the first place if they were. Everything coming out of the club suggests we're talking to Fleetwood about keeping Nadesan and the same likely applies to Sowerby, although the former will be a priority. He's out of contract in the summer and if Fleetwood can get a bit of money for him then they will. If we decide the money they want for him makes business sense, which clearly it does, then he's our player. If not then he'll go somewhere else.
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09 Jan 2019 17:51 #110 by CCU
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As already said, I’d actually prefer him to play for them this week, as it means he can’t go anywhere else.

Then if we can’t strike a deal for the rest of the Season, simply sign him on a pre-Contract for the Summer...

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09 Jan 2019 18:29 #111 by Happyblue
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Markovitch wrote: I still don't think we have enough players to push on. Keep Nadesan, Gerrard and Yates but in addition add a left back, right midfield and goalkeeper

Maybe an extra right back but I quite like our squad it may be small but we still have a bit of competition for positions.

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09 Jan 2019 18:42 #112 by crunchblue
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I think it’s crucial that we find like for like replacements for Nadesan and Yates (if he doesn’t return). The way the teams functioning at the moment suits pace and movement in the final third, it also gets the best out of devitt. The new striker seems to be a different type, which is fine if it’s just to have another option, a plan B, but we need to recruit to keep plan A the same.

Replacing Nadesan and Yates are even more important than Sowerby for the way we play. I don’t want to lose Sowerby because he’s been brilliant, but Slater could come in and altho not quite as good it wouldn’t change the shape and function of the team as say replacing Nadesan with Bennett would. We currently have zero replacements in the building for Nadesan/Yates. Ideally we need one in before Saturday if we are to keep things going.
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09 Jan 2019 18:51 #113 by Southernblue
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Apparently the new lad has a bit of pace about him too, piece on the News and Star website with Darren Kelly who has been his manager at Hyde makes for interesting reading and sounds a decent addition

www.newsandstar.co.uk/sport/17346581.new...r-boss-darren-kelly/

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09 Jan 2019 19:18 #114 by newcarlislefan
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Good luck to him. Someone of his size will hopefully be a handful.
It's a 3 division jump up from where he is now though so we'll need to give him a bit of time to find his feet.

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09 Jan 2019 19:21 #115 by nomadblue2
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Were all forgetting our very own new player Jason Kennedy i think. Very useful lad with all the attributes of pace and scoring goals.

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09 Jan 2019 19:22 #116 by PaddockRanger
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CCU wrote: As already said, I’d actually prefer him to play for them this week, as it means he can’t go anywhere else.

Then if we can’t strike a deal for the rest of the Season, simply sign him on a pre-Contract for the Summer...



agree, if we can not get him back before the weekend it would make him exclusive to Carlisle if Nadesan was to get a move during this window. Ive read that other league 2 clubs, including Northampton, are showing an interest too.

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10 Jan 2019 12:12 #117 by crunchblue
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More quotes today from Barton saying he has no intention whatsoever of selling him.

Think we need to move on from this. I’d hate us to piss about chasing a lost cause for the whole of January while missing out on other potential signings.
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10 Jan 2019 20:00 #118 by howoldboy
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Joey Barton is the ultimate "lost cause".
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10 Jan 2019 20:45 - 10 Jan 2019 20:46 #119 by PaddockRanger
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crunchblue wrote: More quotes today from Barton saying he has no intention whatsoever of selling him.

Think we need to move on from this. I’d hate us to piss about chasing a lost cause for the whole of January while missing out on other potential signings.



I clearly remember Sean O'Driscoll saying the same thing about Derek Holmes before he signed for the club back in 2005. Barton is just informing the media the average script for a league manager
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10 Jan 2019 22:23 #120 by NORTHERNSOUL
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crunchblue wrote: More quotes today from Barton saying he has no intention whatsoever of selling him.

Think we need to move on from this. I’d hate us to piss about chasing a lost cause for the whole of January while missing out on other potential signings.


But you.ll also notice that he said people need to realise that Fleetwood aren't owned by some Sheik and he doesn't expect to be able to splash the cash in the window so I.d be pretty a sure a contribution of 100k into his transfer fund for the pair of them would have the desired effect.

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11 Jan 2019 10:51 #121 by Gezzercufc
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Could look at Jorge grant to replace him. Was excellent last season for county. But forest want to recall him from Luton and said him somewhere where he gets more game time

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12 Jan 2019 14:03 #122 by CCU
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Starts for Fleetwood:


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12 Jan 2019 14:08 #123 by crunchblue
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Fact he’s starting suggests to me we’ve no chance. Move on for now, don’t piss about chasing a lost cause and end up with nothing. Maybe try and get him in the summer

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12 Jan 2019 14:18 #124 by CumbrianAbacist
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Or optimistically, him starting triggers the fifa clause of playing for two clubs in a season and puts off other clubs, as i only see him starting because of Ched Evans being banned


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12 Jan 2019 14:20 #125 by Dancingbear
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Could go either way i reckon. Bad game they may not think hes up to the desired standard and send him back. Good game and weve no chance.

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12 Jan 2019 14:22 #126 by PaddockRanger
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crunchblue wrote: Fact he’s starting suggests to me we’ve no chance. Move on for now, don’t piss about chasing a lost cause and end up with nothing. Maybe try and get him in the summer



he will be exclusive to Carlisle now. if he plays for Fleetwood and fails to impress or score while covering for Evans there is every chance he will return to Brunton park on a permanent transfer.

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12 Jan 2019 14:32 #127 by CumbrianAbacist
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Evans is banned for the next two games (today included) if Nadesan fails to impress in either, Fleetwood would unlikely be in any rush to get him signed to a new contract and risk losing him on a free in the summer with no chance of any compensation so may be willing to offload to us for a fraction of what was being touted at the end of last/start of this month


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12 Jan 2019 14:45 #128 by crunchblue
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If they weren’t planning on keeping him surely they’d start Ashley Hunter today, keeping options open for buyers.

I admire your optimism, but for me the fact he starts today tells me that when Barton said they’ve no intention of selling him he was telling the truth
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12 Jan 2019 14:48 #129 by a66blue
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At Fleetwood today in Oxford end so will see how he plays

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12 Jan 2019 15:33 #130 by CCU
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12 Jan 2019 15:34 #131 by lbtufty
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He's just killed the Oxford defence to set up Madden for 2-0. That's our chances gone then!

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12 Jan 2019 15:38 #132 by Urban Designer
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How much would you be prepared to pay for Nadesan?

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12 Jan 2019 15:41 #133 by Dancingbear
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Nowt I’m skint

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12 Jan 2019 15:42 #134 by orfc
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That's Madden's 15th of the season, a cheeky bid of £20K that we let him go for should suffice.
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12 Jan 2019 15:45 #135 by lbtufty
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£60k for the pair? Go on EWM, you know it makes sense.

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12 Jan 2019 15:50 #136 by seesaw50
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How many has Madden scored since he left us! Shed loads !!!

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12 Jan 2019 15:55 #137 by nobbyblue
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seesaw50 wrote: How many has Madden scored since he left us! Shed loads !!!


Just the 103 to date!

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12 Jan 2019 15:57 #138 by orfc
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seesaw50 wrote: How many has Madden scored since he left us! Shed loads !!!


Technically, about 90 - 'cos the 10 he scored for yeovil when we loaned him out to them for 3 months he was still our player. Gregg/The Analogue Three rather than go "bloody hell, there's actually a striker there, what are we doing wrong?", decided to sell him to yeovil permanently for a nominal fee (rumoured to be 20k), upon which he scored another 10 goals that season and got yeovil promoted to the championship. He's never played lower than league 1 since.

Pretty much the perfect example of our past managers and current owners incompetence on and off the pitch

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12 Jan 2019 16:04 - 12 Jan 2019 16:05 #139 by munchymagic
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seesaw50 wrote: How many has Madden scored since he left us! Shed loads !!!


Technically, about 90 - 'cos the 10 he scored for yeovil when we loaned him out to them for 3 months he was still our player. Gregg/The Analogue Three rather than go "bloody hell, there's actually a striker there, what are we doing wrong?", decided to sell him to yeovil permanently for a nominal fee (rumoured to be 20k), upon which he scored another 10 goals that season and got yeovil promoted to the championship. He's never played lower than league 1 since.

Pretty much the perfect example of our past managers and current owners incompetence on and off the pitch

www.soccerbase.com/players/player.sd?pla...=55027&season_id=142


And Nixon didn't put any clauses in his contract if Yeovil went up.

Yeovil went up....
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12 Jan 2019 16:16 #140 by nobbyblue
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They had to sell him in the end because he literally wouldn't come back.

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12 Jan 2019 16:20 #141 by orfc
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Yeh, that was a part of it too, but our doing.

"Should I go back to a club with a miserable [censored] who gives me 10 minutes a game and keeps moaning i'm not ready, or try and stay where i'm rattling in a goal every 2 games?"

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12 Jan 2019 16:31 #142 by munchymagic
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Everyone I knew that spoke to him said he was a decent lad, usually in the bookies.

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12 Jan 2019 17:11 #143 by seesaw50
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Ditto Glenn Murray

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12 Jan 2019 17:20 #144 by franksidebottom
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Will folk stop bleating on about Glenn Murray, he wasn’t good enough for us at the time and has admitted this himself in interviews since. He was rightly behind Hawley, Bridges and Holmes in the pecking order and when he was given a chance he did very little to prove he deserved another. He’s gone on to have a really good career and fair play to him but there’s nothing Carlisle should have done any different at the time. The Madden case was totally different.

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12 Jan 2019 17:21 #145 by triskelionblue
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A bit ironic he plays today in front of a massive 2,700 fans instead of our lower crowds of 4,500 due to the Custodians. He must feel like he's gone back to Sunday morning park football. Must be a big come down.

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12 Jan 2019 20:43 #146 by PaddockRanger
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triskelionblue wrote: A bit ironic he plays today in front of a massive 2,700 fans instead of our lower crowds of 4,500 due to the Custodians. He must feel like he's gone back to Sunday morning park football. Must be a big come down.




imagine what it must be like for Evans for then.......from Sheffield Utd (25,000+), via Chesterfield, to Fleetwood town. Apart from 1 assist for Madden today, Nadesan failed to score and didnt finish the game.

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13 Jan 2019 22:35 #148 by pacirv
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Add Wells to the list.

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13 Jan 2019 22:46 #149 by Happyblue
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orfc wrote:

seesaw50 wrote: How many has Madden scored since he left us! Shed loads !!!


Technically, about 90 - 'cos the 10 he scored for yeovil when we loaned him out to them for 3 months he was still our player. Gregg/The Analogue Three rather than go "bloody hell, there's actually a striker there, what are we doing wrong?", decided to sell him to yeovil permanently for a nominal fee (rumoured to be 20k), upon which he scored another 10 goals that season and got yeovil promoted to the championship. He's never played lower than league 1 since.

Pretty much the perfect example of our past managers and current owners incompetence on and off the pitch

www.soccerbase.com/players/player.sd?pla...=55027&season_id=142

He played league 2 when he went to Scunthorpe

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