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07 Jan 2020 21:20 #101 by Dazwacky
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Barry two hopes of Bury been in league 2 next season Bob and No!! the Blackpool scenario is different to Bury's in so many ways it just wont happen anybody willing to fire money into a legal fight might as well fire it in the air as its lost money! the wages they were paying to get promoted were not sustainable (The fans knew this and still blew spoke up the owners ar&e) and this is where the FA need to come in and make sure clubs are self sufficient! we can guarantee a few clubs will go to the wall in next few years especially in the Championship as it cannot be sustained! football is ludicrous at the moment

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08 Jan 2020 09:05 #102 by NORTHERNSOUL
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Dazwacky wrote: Barry two hopes of Bury been in league 2 next season Bob and No!! the Blackpool scenario is different to Bury's in so many ways it just wont happen anybody willing to fire money into a legal fight might as well fire it in the air as its lost money! the wages they were paying to get promoted were not sustainable (The fans knew this and still blew spoke up the owners ar&e) and this is where the FA need to come in and make sure clubs are self sufficient! we can guarantee a few clubs will go to the wall in next few years especially in the Championship as it cannot be sustained! football is ludicrous at the moment


I never said anything about the two cases being the same but people in football have now realised that if you can get it into court there are very skilled legal people who can get you a result that you couldn't get on the pitch.

Yesterdays Bolton decision prooves that if what the FL wanted to do to Bolton was way too heavy-handed and the reduced penalty decision was upheld as correct and no one can possibly say that if Bolton's original punishment was over the top then Burys was on a different scale punishing a club and its fans just because a rouge owner won't cow-tow to some stupid bitch with a bee in her bonnet who just happens to have the job by default is clearly wrong. Just remember how close we came to being in that position when MK threatened to turn BP into a cabbage patch.

You simply cannot blame the fans for what Stuart Day did over the previous 4 seasons and there were plenty of them who did actually do their best to highlight what he was up to[ including my mates down there]

The FL need to get this sorted out and the punishments and remedies put into its rules and regulations, For instance, they could take away a golden share from an owner who isn't playing by the rules in the same way that the owners of a pub could have their drinks licenced removed from them or better still don't have any owners and have all the clubs owned by its fans.

But what you have to remember about the Bury case is that they weren't unable or unwilling to play their games it was the FL who was stopping them from doing so. And in that case, it comes down to it that the league threw Bury out simply to punish an owner who wouldn't cow-tow to them using the other clubs self-interests to get backing for their actions completely ignoring the fact that the arse hole of an owner couldn't actually give a shit and the only people they were punishing were Burys fans.

The whole set up of the league needs to change it should become a club whos only responsibilities should be to organise the competitions and to act on behalf of and to protect its members and by members thats the clubs and their fans and NOT the [censored] individuals like Oyston, Day, Dale and Jenkins whose actions are to the benefit of nobody but themselves and certainly not those of their clubs or its supporters.

But in the short term, the very least they need to do is have the remedies and punishments put in place and put into their rules for instance if a club fails to fulfil a fixture An immediate financial penalty for doing so [ and compensation to the opponents for any losses they incur as a result ] a fixed timescale for the match to be rearranged and replayed and if it isn't, a further financial penalty and the points simply awarded to the other club and further compensation paid particularly in respect of a game the opponents were to host and will, therefore, have budgeted the income from for the opposition because at the moment the set up means there are lots of aggrieved parties amongst the other clubs for lots of different reasons but are all united in calling for the penalties against the club concerned to be applied simply because indirectly they will benefit from whatever they are and having those penalties in the rule book would take that away.

But the two overriding factors in the Bury situation that fans of other clubs need to remember are that the current situation punishes nobody except the clubs fans who weren't actually guilty of anything and who if the FL had taken the Golden Share away from the owner would have been quite willing and able to take over and run the club in the short term allowing the fixtures to be completed. And as I said earlier the club, its fans or even Dale himself weren't responsible for those games being called off that was down entirely to Jeavons who rather than bang Dales head against the wall till he saw sense took the easy way out knowing the clubs would back her for their own selfish reasons. Those clubs are now starting to see the ramifications with at least two in lge one now being sued by season ticket holders for not providing the service they sold ie one game short.

I would put money on that if they were presented with a massive claim for damages from a Bury club that had extracted itself from Dale they wouldn't even contest it but just offer the remedy of Bury starting next season in league two but even tho one of the two issues against that happening has now been removed [ie the Bolton precedent] the other one the speed at which the British legal system moves is still the main stumbling block knowing that were next season to start before a conclusion was reached there would be complete chaos and therefore the only remedy would be a financial one which is I believe the reason nobody in Bury took it legal in the first place.

The sensible option would be for the court of sports arbitration [ or even another commission similar to the Bolton one ] to sort it out with their decision binding on both parties but once again the timescales involved and Dales continued ownership of the club entity are what's preventing this from happening

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15 Jan 2020 15:52 #103 by Bluedazblue
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It looks like Macclesfield will be saved.
www.theguardian.com/football/2020/jan/15...ed-offer-club-shares

It's even more vital that we get proven L2 players in to prevent relegation.

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15 Jan 2020 16:24 #104 by NORTHERNSOUL
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Bluedazblue wrote: It looks like Macclesfield will be saved.
www.theguardian.com/football/2020/jan/15...ed-offer-club-shares

It's even more vital that we get proven L2 players in to prevent relegation.


Said all along they will be sold and they will get their points back

If they don't the FL are leaving themselves open to action from a group of several Lge 1 clubs over the Bolton leniency from the commission

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20 Jan 2020 17:20 #105 by CCU
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Might lose some more first!


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29 Jan 2020 18:24 #106 by Southernblue
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Apparently three of their players have gone to the EFL today and managed to get their contracts cancelled, according to BBC sport twitter anyway, no names given yet

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29 Jan 2020 19:21 #108 by Markovitch
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Anyone who could be useful for us?

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29 Jan 2020 22:42 #109 by PaddockRanger
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no mention of which 3 players have left Macc, but would any of their players have the potential to do well at other league clubs?

www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/51297280

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30 Jan 2020 09:16 #110 by pacirv
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Never known anything drag on so long as this. Something should be sorted out one way or another. Credit to their players for continuing to get results regardless of the goings on off the field.

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30 Jan 2020 11:02 #111 by Southernblue
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Seems strange that given they have been released that there are still no names of which players. Even the Macclesfield fans seem to be in the dark as to which players it might be

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30 Jan 2020 11:54 #112 by Markovitch
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Reading their board the three they don't want to go are Kelleher, Archibald and Vassell. Archibald is a right-winger which is exactly what we need. Might be worth a sneaky sounding out, from Glasgow

What has happened to Elliott? On Tuesday we had Thomas as the only wide player, Bridge played wide but not his natural position. If McKirdy goes wouldn't Elliott be a better option than Bridge?

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30 Jan 2020 14:22 #113 by Oldbolt
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Markovitch wrote: Reading their board the three they don't want to go are Kelleher, Archibald and Vassell. Archibald is a right-winger which is exactly what we need. Might be worth a sneaky sounding out, from Glasgow

What has happened to Elliott? On Tuesday we had Thomas as the only wide player, Bridge played wide but not his natural position. If McKirdy goes wouldn't Elliott be a better option than Bridge?


Ah - Elliot. Who David Holdsworth described as a "Rolls Royce of a player". Who hasn't made the matchday squad in how long?
wouldn't Elliott be a better option than Bridge? Er - no

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31 Jan 2020 11:28 #114 by Lakelandterrier
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Markovitch wrote: Reading their board the three they don't want to go are Kelleher, Archibald and Vassell. Archibald is a right-winger which is exactly what we need. Might be worth a sneaky sounding out, from Glasgow

What has happened to Elliott? On Tuesday we had Thomas as the only wide player, Bridge played wide but not his natural position. If McKirdy goes wouldn't Elliott be a better option than Bridge?



Elliott. He has been found out. Poor player. Not good enough.

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31 Jan 2020 11:44 #115 by Markovitch
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Certainly not going to say Elliott is good but we have 4 or 5 players now vying for a centre mid-berth where we have 2 for the wide positions. And McKirdy is a wee bit fatigued, poor lamb. Who is going to play there even if it's coming on in the 75th minute? Elliot and Iredale can cover left and right, but not well.

Bridge played a lovely ball for the first goal but that was about it, did his Scarlet Pimpernel after that. Him, Scougall and Olaf are all central players.

If Archibald has had his contract cancelled could be a good deal. Free-agent, we don't even have to sign him today, do we?

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17 Mar 2020 17:22 #116 by CCU
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