League 2 attendances ranked as a % of population

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28 Nov 2018 22:53 #1 by newcarlislefan
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Quite an interesting read. Thought Carlisle would be higher up.

www.somersetlive.co.uk/sport/football/fo...dons-grimsby-2266318

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28 Nov 2018 23:27 #2 by paddockite
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That's very interesting thank you for that.

The reason I always say we're very unique is the fact we're the only Football League club in Cumbria. There isn't another football league club within 50 miles!

So you could include Workington, Whitehaven, Penrith, Cockermouth, Wigton, Keswick, Penrith etc, and you've got another 100k+ people.

You look at Lancashire and they've got Bolton, Blackburn, Burnley, Wigan, Preston all right next to each other, plus the 2 Manchester clubs 30 mins down the road.

We should tap into the county far more than we do, I'm sure somebody put on here a while back that Cumbria as a whole is nearly 300k population. Yet we've struggled to just get 4k attendances this season.

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28 Nov 2018 23:33 #3 by 182blue
Yes, Carlisle used to be cited as one of the smallest places, by population, with a league club.
There is no doubt we are perfectly capable of holding ourselves up as a reasonably well supported lower league club.
The club has been in the doldrums really, in the main , for quite a few years now , but the attendances have held up reasonably well.
We would need to have a really good spell over a sustained period, to really drive up attendances and that doesn’t look like happening any time soon.
There can’t be many clubs in our league that have failed to win a promotion of some kind for 12 years.

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29 Nov 2018 06:54 #4 by OsloBlue
Using the same measurement, are we not the team from the smallest place to have ever topped the first division?

Think I read that somewhere once

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29 Nov 2018 07:38 - 29 Nov 2018 07:39 #5 by orfc
The population figures look a bit dodgy. 108,000 for Carlisle is the council area, including areas like kershopefoot nearly 30 miles away. Going the other way, Milton Keynes is at least double what they've got there too.
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29 Nov 2018 10:30 #6 by CCU

paddockite wrote: That's very interesting thank you for that.

The reason I always say we're very unique is the fact we're the only Football League club in Cumbria. There isn't another football league club within 50 miles!

So you could include Workington, Whitehaven, Penrith, Cockermouth, Wigton, Keswick, Penrith etc, and you've got another 100k+ people.

You look at Lancashire and they've got Bolton, Blackburn, Burnley, Wigan, Preston all right next to each other, plus the 2 Manchester clubs 30 mins down the road.

We should tap into the county far more than we do, I'm sure somebody put on here a while back that Cumbria as a whole is nearly 300k population. Yet we've struggled to just get 4k attendances this season.


Cumbria itself is just shy of 500k inhabitants, though there’s not many south of Kendal that would be bothered by Carlisle United.

Ive always seen a rough line from Whitehaven, over to Kendal, round to Appleby and up to Haltwhistle and as far over as Lockerbie and Annan in Scotland as our potential fan base area, having known Blues from all those places and many inside that ‘circle’...

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29 Nov 2018 12:17 #7 by nobbyblue
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I would hazard a guess that more than half of that 4135 average doesn't even live in the City of Carlisle.

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29 Nov 2018 13:28 #8 by BelleVueBoy
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I would agree. The CUFC catchment is essentially old Cumberland plus parts of old Westmorland, SW Scotland and East Northumberland. About 300,000 folk I'd say. But travel distances are long for many. Also those who travel long distances to home games get nowt from Club in terms of recognition.... SFA is done to promote the Club outside of Carlisle and not much there...
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29 Nov 2018 14:03 #9 by newcarlislefan
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I have to say being new to the club I've been amazed at the number of fans who travel to away games.
I appreciate that a number are London based but considering the distance to most away games the away attendances are remarkable.
I remember a while back as well reading something about Carlisle getting either the lowest or near the lowest of away fans coming to BP because of the distances involved.
That must make quite a difference to revenues from away fans compared to a lot of clubs.

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29 Nov 2018 14:30 #10 by Yorkie Blue
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OsloBlue wrote: Using the same measurement, are we not the team from the smallest place to have ever topped the first division?

Think I read that somewhere once



I think Burnley may be the smallest town to have been top of / won the old first division.

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29 Nov 2018 14:37 #11 by nobbyblue
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As far as attendances ranked as a % of population Burnley would take some beating averaging over 20,000 at present with a population 73,000.

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29 Nov 2018 14:44 #12 by CCU

nobbyblue wrote: As far as attendances ranked as a % of population Burnley would take some beating averaging over 20,000 at present with a population 73,000.


But how many of those 20k come from the towns in the hills etc? Be a good proportion, similar to ourselves...

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29 Nov 2018 15:12 #13 by ParcelPete
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nobbyblue wrote: As far as attendances ranked as a % of population Burnley would take some beating averaging over 20,000 at present with a population 73,000.


Burnley fans treat football games as a family gathering due to most of them being related.
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29 Nov 2018 17:19 #14 by NORTHERNSOUL
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CCU wrote:

paddockite wrote: That's very interesting thank you for that.

The reason I always say we're very unique is the fact we're the only Football League club in Cumbria. There isn't another football league club within 50 miles!

So you could include Workington, Whitehaven, Penrith, Cockermouth, Wigton, Keswick, Penrith etc, and you've got another 100k+ people.

You look at Lancashire and they've got Bolton, Blackburn, Burnley, Wigan, Preston all right next to each other, plus the 2 Manchester clubs 30 mins down the road.

We should tap into the county far more than we do, I'm sure somebody put on here a while back that Cumbria as a whole is nearly 300k population. Yet we've struggled to just get 4k attendances this season.


Cumbria itself is just shy of 500k inhabitants, though there’s not many south of Kendal that would be bothered by Carlisle United.

Ive always seen a rough line from Whitehaven, over to Kendal, round to Appleby and up to Haltwhistle and as far over as Lockerbie and Annan in Scotland as our potential fan base area, having known Blues from all those places and many inside that ‘circle’...


When i set up the Granada branch with Martin Hudson we had over a hundred members with Lancashire postcodes at its peak.

" if the old git stepped out in front of my car i wouldnt be looking for the brakes thats for sure "

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29 Nov 2018 17:29 #15 by cousinscotty
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Isn't Carlisle still the largest City in Britain (by area)?

I seem to recall a few years ago that someone (possibly one of the footy magazines) did a survey of Premier League teams' fanbases and used Post Codes to establish where they came from. I think the objective was to prove that most of Man United's support came from London. The results proved conclusively that the team with the highest proportion of travelling supporters to home matches was Liverpool! Further investigation established that a high proportion of Liverpool's support comes from the Wirrall - a different Post Code area.

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29 Nov 2018 17:50 #16 by CCU

NORTHERNSOUL wrote:

CCU wrote:

paddockite wrote: That's very interesting thank you for that.

The reason I always say we're very unique is the fact we're the only Football League club in Cumbria. There isn't another football league club within 50 miles!

So you could include Workington, Whitehaven, Penrith, Cockermouth, Wigton, Keswick, Penrith etc, and you've got another 100k+ people.

You look at Lancashire and they've got Bolton, Blackburn, Burnley, Wigan, Preston all right next to each other, plus the 2 Manchester clubs 30 mins down the road.

We should tap into the county far more than we do, I'm sure somebody put on here a while back that Cumbria as a whole is nearly 300k population. Yet we've struggled to just get 4k attendances this season.


Cumbria itself is just shy of 500k inhabitants, though there’s not many south of Kendal that would be bothered by Carlisle United.

Ive always seen a rough line from Whitehaven, over to Kendal, round to Appleby and up to Haltwhistle and as far over as Lockerbie and Annan in Scotland as our potential fan base area, having known Blues from all those places and many inside that ‘circle’...


When i set up the Granada branch with Martin Hudson we had over a hundred members with Lancashire postcodes at its peak.


How many were from the area I mentioned originally though?

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29 Nov 2018 19:03 #17 by Urban Designer
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An obvious fault is not proportioning Stoke and Nottingham who both have two team.

I bet Leeds is pretty low even though they get 30k - probably the biggest 1 team city.

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30 Nov 2018 07:12 #18 by Mush

BelleVueBoy wrote: I would agree. The CUFC catchment is essentially old Cumberland plus parts of old Westmorland, SW Scotland and East Northumberland. About 300,000 folk I'd say. But travel distances are long for many. Also those who travel long distances to home games get nowt from Club in terms of recognition.... SFA is done to promote the Club outside of Carlisle and not much there...


It isn't even promoted in Carlisle!

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03 Dec 2018 17:06 #19 by triskelionblue
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touched on here but Yeovil has lots of small villages around it so the population of Yeovil and surrounding area is a lot more than quoted here for the town itself.

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