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04 Jan 2019 20:54 #101 by Alan
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182blue wrote: It’s no surprise, I’m over it already.
I am sure he had reasons to fall out with various folk, the same as he has done in his 10 previous jobs, in the last 10 years, doesn’t mean the reasons aren’t valid.
Easy come, easy go.
I can’t say he has done a good job, as quitting after 7 months basically wipes out all of the positive stuff.
Good riddance.
Managers come and go and players come and go, they don’t give a shit about Carlisle United.
Sheridan will park up his caravan elsewhere soon enough, I’ll be at Brunton Park tomorrow.


I had him marginally ahead of Roddy (The plasterer) Collins in the popularity standing



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04 Jan 2019 20:59 #102 by seesaw50
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Excuse me?

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04 Jan 2019 20:59 #103 by Alan
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DeckchairBlue wrote: there is no wage cap on the conference is there? So club's can spend what they want to try and get into the league.

Don't think there's as much of a conspiracy here as the usual on here try to make out, he swaps club's every 6 months, he's been offered very high wages for this level and a long contract (so good compo if he gets sacked).

We just need to make sure we appoint the right person to replace him.




Since 2001 including assistant manager posts he has had 11 different jobs.

And 3 of them were Oldham

Hardly changing clubs every six months is it
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04 Jan 2019 21:00 #104 by Alan
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I posted log off you clown

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04 Jan 2019 21:06 #105 by cufcmike
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He did publically say a few months ago that the financial situation is a lot worse here than what he was told at the interview. Which is very poor form from the club.
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04 Jan 2019 21:18 #106 by Southernblue
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Alan wrote:

DeckchairBlue wrote: there is no wage cap on the conference is there? So club's can spend what they want to try and get into the league.

Don't think there's as much of a conspiracy here as the usual on here try to make out, he swaps club's every 6 months, he's been offered very high wages for this level and a long contract (so good compo if he gets sacked).

We just need to make sure we appoint the right person to replace him.






Since 2001 including assistant manager posts he has had 11 different jobs.

And 3 of them were Oldham

Hardly changing clubs every six months is it


It's the last 6 jobs, he hasn't stayed longer than 6 months at any of them
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04 Jan 2019 21:21 #107 by ianell
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seesaw50 wrote: But Happy he knew there was little money when he came in, however Holdsworth had made positive noises that signings could be made in the window, and it did seem like things were happening. Let's hope that's still the case


If it’s not still the case then just why is Holdsworth here at all??

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04 Jan 2019 21:27 #108 by bushnelli
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Aww Alan are you missing him?

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04 Jan 2019 21:39 #109 by Alan
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bushnelli wrote: Aww Alan are you missing him?


Like the flowers miss the rain.

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04 Jan 2019 21:46 #110 by DeckchairBlue
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Alan wrote:

DeckchairBlue wrote: there is no wage cap on the conference is there? So club's can spend what they want to try and get into the league.

Don't think there's as much of a conspiracy here as the usual on here try to make out, he swaps club's every 6 months, he's been offered very high wages for this level and a long contract (so good compo if he gets sacked).

We just need to make sure we appoint the right person to replace him.




Since 2001 including assistant manager posts he has had 11 different jobs.

And 3 of them were Oldham

Hardly changing clubs every six months is it


He's has 6 jobs since 2016.

Joined Newport after leaving Plymouth saying he wanted to join his family back in the North of England. Stayed there for 4 months before resigning.

Joined Oldham, stayed for 4 months, left to join Notts County.

Stayed at Notts County for 7 months, sacked for gross misconduct.

Joined Oldham, stayed for 8 months, left by mutual consent.

Joined Fleetwood, stayed for 3 months.

Joined us, lasted 7 months, resigned.

So your right, he usually lasts less than 6 months.

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04 Jan 2019 22:07 #111 by seesaw50
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Alan knows best tho
Oh and time for a fell photo Alan, been a while

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04 Jan 2019 22:09 #112 by seesaw50
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Alan wrote: I posted log off you clown


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04 Jan 2019 22:20 #113 by Mush
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jakeyblain wrote: Can't help but think there's something more in that boxing day rant than what meets the eye. Key players falling out with him? Perhaps a training ground rift?


Just read on facebook: "Heard that grainger and Sheridan hated each other cos grainger applied for job and didn't get it so at Oldham game at half time Sheridan had a go at grainger and called him a fat lazy [censored] so grainger started on him. So they had each other by throat them devitt held back Sheridan then sheridan called him a goofy pikey b*****d then grainger and devitt went to PFA straight after the game to complain"


"Goofy pikey [censored]" brilliant!
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04 Jan 2019 22:23 #114 by crunchblue
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04 Jan 2019 22:47 #115 by thetashkentterror
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First time I saw him outside of a matchday it seemed evident he liked his drink a bit too much.

That was at that forum at the Harraby Catholic Club in September where he turned up drunk and was too cocky and argumentative with a Newcastle fan who was just there with his mates.

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04 Jan 2019 23:55 #116 by TopDog74
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I work with a lad who used to play football with John Sheridan s brother, he said when he came Carlisle it wouldn't last as he likes his drink to much.
So ???

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05 Jan 2019 01:27 #117 by DeckchairBlue
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Heard the same thing from a chesterfield fan I work with.

But as long as he wasn't turning into work half cut and it wasn't impacting his work, which was clearly going well, does it matter ?

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05 Jan 2019 06:37 #118 by TopDog74
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Maybe his short temper and outbursts weren't helped by his heavy drinking .
Just saying ...

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05 Jan 2019 08:35 #119 by nobbyblue
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It was a bit bizarre when he arrived signing on the dotted line in the pub in Wetheral and the pictures taken in the beer garden! It all makes sense now. :-D

He had to get a loan of a sports jacket off somebody for the pics at the club the next day!
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05 Jan 2019 08:51 #120 by CarlisleWhite
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Some strange fellers on here.
Sheridan gets us to the play offs and on no more than 50% of the budget of Curly Keith, but now he's an alcoholic!
It's all about the money (or lack of it in the club and more of it for him with no travel).
Another possibility is he has manufactured the furore to justify his decision I suppose.
All will soon become clear by who leaves on the playing side and who comes in as manager.
Perfect scenario for the board now - not going to go down so no need to spend much.
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05 Jan 2019 08:51 #121 by Muffter
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I thought at the time Sheridan was a dodgy appointment due to he’s outburst at Notts which lead to he’s dismissal. Yeah OK 5 wins on the bounce is fantastic but 10 defeats at the half way point isn’t! I personally would have sacked him after the Macclesfield defeat. We shouldn’t let the fact that this is a very poor league make Sheridan look like some kind of hero because he isn’t.
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05 Jan 2019 08:58 - 05 Jan 2019 09:04 #122 by nobbyblue
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This travel thing always gets me. Carlisles always been in the same place as far as I'm aware and he never mentioned it when he was only too happy to sign a contract.

Credit to him for the position hes left us in but it was always only a stop gap till something better turned up. The main problem is it leaves the club managerless and in turmoil once again which the BOD have shown in the past sends them into a blind panic
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05 Jan 2019 09:00 #123 by CarlisleWhite
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Equally worrying about this is the input of PD and his advisors, who sat in on the appointment to "make sure they got it right".
All the while when having a Director of Football and CEO doing the same job at the wage of a decent centre forward.
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05 Jan 2019 09:02 - 05 Jan 2019 09:05 #124 by newcarlislefan
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I don't know anything about the drinking or the rows with players but if you had said we'd be in the playoffs now after the pre-season we had I think most of us would have taken that.
After the club appeared to offer the job to numerous managers, McDonald, Slade, Hopkin, Sooty & Sweep and so on the appointment became a desperate affair as the clock was ticking.
Sheridan came in last minute with key players having left, no money and little time to prepare let alone build a squad.
His relationship with Fleetwood enabled us to get Sowerby & Glendon and his connections in Yorkshire enabled us to get Yates and Slater.
Gerrard only came here because of Sheridan.
To get anything going from this season is a real achievement and he deserves credit for that.
We started the season well when the players were all fit. A few injuries and the threadbare nature of things kick in and we struggle. Players come back over recent weeks and we kick on again, score 3, 4 and 6 at home and win 5 on the bounce.
As for leaving now, you can hardly blame him. Reports on BBRC last night that he had 2 games to save his job before the MK game hardly would have helped him feel secure.
If it's a toss up between a 4-5 hour daily commute or living in digs compared to a 15 minute drive to work we'd all probably take it.
He's nearer home and family, more money in the pay packet every month and more job security. I'm sure we'd all do the same.
It's a no brainer.
Chesterfield by all accounts have a wage bill of around 1.5 million and he'll have a decent budget for that division and no doubt he'll be able to buy players rather than have to beg, steal or borrow them.
Carlisle knew what they were getting when they signed him. He's fiery, abrasive and explosive and hasn't hung around too long at some clubs.
It sounds like there's some relief in the dressing room he's gone,which is where you could point the finger and criticise him, but in the overall scheme of things I'm not sure that can dampen down his very real achievements.
You sense that the way Sheridan is his tenure was going to be short and a dressing room fall out was on the anticipated checklist but I'm sure these kind of things happen at all clubs up and down the country. Ours was just played out a little more publicly.
I think my overall feeling is one of disappointment and deflation as what has turned into an improbably exciting season runs the risk of being derailed just as it's starting to build up a head of steam but I can hardly blame Sheridan for that.
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05 Jan 2019 09:20 #125 by Markovitch
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Well at this stage if it was me I would have Murray in as manager, Grainger and Liddle given a wee bump with coaching duties and the £200k pa we are saving on wages from Sheridan and Wright put up as a transfer kitty for new players. This could be a positive. We are not going down so that buys them to the end of the season to appraise the situation
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05 Jan 2019 09:28 #126 by crunchblue
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Hmm I’m not so sure about Murray. He didn’t exactly do well as Hartlepool manager.

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05 Jan 2019 09:34 #127 by CCU
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crunchblue wrote: Hmm I’m not so sure about Murray. He didn’t exactly do well as Hartlepool manager.


In fairness, Pool were a basket case when he was briefly in charge there, fans against the owner etc...

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05 Jan 2019 09:35 #128 by pacirv
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Sheridan had been saying he’d been talking to a couple of strikers and hoped to get at least one in for the week end, it’s not a great stretch to think that he was refused the finance to do the deals and that was the final straw.

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05 Jan 2019 09:36 #129 by Bumble
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To be fair Hartlepool was in total melt down at the time. Ronnie Moore performed an absolute miracle to keep them up, giving them a year stqay of execusion but they were always going to implode. Sometimes what' happening behind the scenes is just too big a burden for a club to carry whoever the manager.

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05 Jan 2019 09:48 #130 by crunchblue
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CCU wrote:

crunchblue wrote: Hmm I’m not so sure about Murray. He didn’t exactly do well as Hartlepool manager.


In fairness, Pool were a basket case when he was briefly in charge there, fans against the owner etc...



Sounds familiar

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05 Jan 2019 09:49 #131 by Zebby
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The biggest attribute our new manager is going to need is contacts to beg borrow and steal a few players

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05 Jan 2019 09:51 #132 by Mouldy
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Perhaps Pacirv but I reckon the squad matters AJ eluded to could well be accepting an offer for Devitt and Grainger to get them off his back. Surely our new DoF is in top of stats when Grainger has/hasn’t played. Devitt speaks for himself.

Muzza staying around the club would be a good thing as he’s been in the coaching regime getting good results for the last 5 games. Another positive is a young coach with contacts at other clubs - Fleetwood loans could still work with his previous role. He played the game for a good length and will have endless contacts that way.

In my heart of hearts I’d quite like Simmo back (for sentimental reasons more than anything, probably). That period was the start of an exciting time at CUFC and crowds were higher as the football was successful - 7-1 at home against Farnborough in front of 7500. Acknowledgement needed of course to the ownership deterring some fans from returning.

I say give it to Simmo til the end of season alongside Muzza and see what happens. Successful England youth coach with knowledge of a wealth of young British talent could be handy given Holdsworths comments on players over 30 are a thing of the past.

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05 Jan 2019 10:00 #133 by nobbyblue
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I think Simmo would take us up without a shadow of a doubt and would certainly get some of the missing punters back. So it would be ideal for me. :)

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05 Jan 2019 10:04 #134 by melbourneblues
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Do you mind mouldy I’m having my breakfast, I’ve never been as disappointed at this moment in time since Judas left us in the lurch.

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05 Jan 2019 10:06 #135 by Mouldy
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Sorry Melbourne, what you having? I had a fry up.

Granted some may hold a tainted view of Simmo but in the grand scheme of things he’s a relatively safe short term option to buy us some time but still keep us moving towards play offs. Sorry!

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05 Jan 2019 10:08 #136 by nobbyblue
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melbourneblues wrote: Do you mind mouldy I’m having my breakfast, I’ve never been as disappointed at this moment in time since Judas left us in the lurch.


He got us promoted twice. Hardly in the lurch! :)

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05 Jan 2019 10:14 #137 by melbourneblues
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Shut up nobby ya little gossip it’s just a way of saying I was disappointed when he left.

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05 Jan 2019 10:38 - 05 Jan 2019 10:39 #138 by seesaw50
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nobbyblue wrote: This travel thing always gets me. Carlisles always been in the same place as far as I'm aware and he never mentioned it when he was only too happy to sign a contract.

Credit to him for the position hes left us in but it was always only a stop gap till something better turned up. The main problem is it leaves the club managerless and in turmoil once again which the BOD have shown in the past sends them into a blind panic


Difference this time tho is Holdsworth's in the building....say what you like about him but he seems professional and should be a steadying influence.

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05 Jan 2019 10:51 #139 by seesaw50
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Mouldy wrote: Perhaps Pacirv but I reckon the squad matters AJ eluded to could well be accepting an offer for Devitt and Grainger to get them off his back. Surely our new DoF is in top of stats when Grainger has/hasn’t played. Devitt speaks for himself.

Muzza staying around the club would be a good thing as he’s been in the coaching regime getting good results for the last 5 games. Another positive is a young coach with contacts at other clubs - Fleetwood loans could still work with his previous role. He played the game for a good length and will have endless contacts that way.

In my heart of hearts I’d quite like Simmo back (for sentimental reasons more than anything, probably). That period was the start of an exciting time at CUFC and crowds were higher as the football was successful - 7-1 at home against Farnborough in front of 7500. Acknowledgement needed of course to the ownership deterring some fans from returning.

I say give it to Simmo til the end of season alongside Muzza and see what happens. Successful England youth coach with knowledge of a wealth of young British talent could be handy given Holdsworths comments on players over 30 are a thing of the past.


Is that what Holdsworth said Mouldy...was it not 2 year contracts were a thing of the past!

On Simmo...dream on..he likes his current job too much....young lads are easier to deal with than older pros I'd say

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05 Jan 2019 11:08 #140 by Mouldy
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Both things were mentioned. It wasn’t necessarily that over 30s were a thing of the past, but that the squad wouldn’t be filled with them. Nor would we throw about 2 year deals to every signing


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05 Jan 2019 11:19 #141 by 182blue
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Although I am not happy with the Holdsworth situation, it seems like there isn’t any reason why he can’t crack on and sort out some loan signings.
It doesn’t seem very obvious to me what he has done so far, as most of the loan/short-term signings we made were linked with Sheridan (Gerrard, Campbell, Nadesan, Sowerby, Glendon).
Any coach coming in will understand that their job is to work with the players they have got, unless they act very quickly to appoint a more experienced bloke, which seems unlikely to me.
Time for Holdsworth to prove his worth.

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05 Jan 2019 11:35 - 05 Jan 2019 11:36 #142 by Kaiser Blue
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It’s no surprise when he looks likely to get a mega-deal at Chesterfield and if you believe the rumours with players etc. No disrespect (because even though I never wanted him in the first place, I recently started to appreciate him) but his heart was never in it for me from that first forum in summer, it seemed like just another club for him and he always seemed a bitter man about the modern game; so maybe just became too frustrated with it all on a tight budget. In fairness, the National League is a bit more ‘old school.’ I often defend him but Jenkins comment about “commitment” is laughable and probably done off-the-cuff. It probably came to a boiling point now that we’re in January - like it was always going to if you think about it. To be a fly on the wall yesterday morning in the club would be nice.
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05 Jan 2019 11:37 - 05 Jan 2019 11:38 #143 by Markovitch
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We're on the up at the moment. Sheridan has got a system that works. If Murray takes over he needs 2 players like Nadesan and Yates plus Gerard to sign on. Sheridan doesn't strike me as the type players are desperate to play for so Murray just needs to keep the ball rolling. A local boy leads the team to the playoffs would generate more excitement than Sheridan. He's gone, move on, minimum of fuss needed halfway through a season. Murray has 6 months to make the job his own
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05 Jan 2019 11:45 #144 by Bruntonpasty
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I kind of agree with that Marko but, are we going to lose players during this window? What if the Custodians sell off/fail to sign on our stronger players? i.e. Devitt, Gerrard. Plus the need to replace those who have already gone. If the custodians pull the rug from under the manager, he's screwed.

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05 Jan 2019 11:53 #145 by Dancingbear
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If Sheridan doesn’t take Wright surely he has to be considered whether we like it or not as I doubt they can afford to sack him even if a outsider comes in.

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05 Jan 2019 11:57 #146 by Lakelandterrier
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I would like Wright to stay, he impressed me at the coaching staff forum. Preferred him more than Sheridan.
I would still like a local born player/ ex player to come in though. We need a spark to get things going.

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05 Jan 2019 11:58 #147 by Moylesey
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Looking at it logically Wright doesn’t have a decision to make until Sheridan is announced somewhere - why we would he make himself unemployed and wait for Sheridan?

I think as soon as Sheridan is fixed up he’ll follow on behind.

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05 Jan 2019 11:58 #148 by Northumbrian
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The amount of defeats is irrelevant.... It's about points and position. We are in the play offs on a tiny budget... well ahead of where we were last year on a much higher budget.

I just can't work some folk out on here.... I get that some don't like him and he is a hot head etc. But you can't argue with the results and our position.

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05 Jan 2019 12:44 #149 by crunchblue
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Fair play to the club for adding some comedy to their programmes to boost sales.

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05 Jan 2019 13:06 #150 by Mullen103
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Yes let’s stick together, to get rid of all the cancers in the club!

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