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04 Jan 2019 14:06 #51 by crunchblue
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bluestblue wrote:

crunchblue wrote:

Seekaye wrote: Are we getting any compensation? Or just rolled over and said off you go?


Think by accepting his resignation they’ve effectively made him a free agent, so no compo.

That’s how I understand it. Correct me if I’m wrong



Why would that be?


Because they’ve accepted his resignation. If they didn’t accept his resignation he’d have to honour his contract would he not? Therefore meaning to get him a club would have to approach Carlisle and agree a fee to release him from his contract.

I’m not 100% on this but I’d imagine it works pretty similar to a player. If a club releases him from a contract he’s a free agent so can go somewhere else for no transfer fee, but if he’s under contract the club has to reach an agreement with us before being allowed to make a move.

I think.

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04 Jan 2019 14:09 #52 by Reeves9
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What's this 'thing' coming up in January that people are alluding to?

We going bust?

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04 Jan 2019 14:10 #53 by MerseysideBlue
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crunchblue wrote:

bluestblue wrote:

crunchblue wrote:

Seekaye wrote: Are we getting any compensation? Or just rolled over and said off you go?


Think by accepting his resignation they’ve effectively made him a free agent, so no compo.

That’s how I understand it. Correct me if I’m wrong



Why would that be?


Because they’ve accepted his resignation. If they didn’t accept his resignation he’d have to honour his contract would he not? Therefore meaning to get him a club would have to approach Carlisle and agree a fee to release him from his contract.

I’m not 100% on this but I’d imagine it works pretty similar to a player. If a club releases him from a contract he’s a free agent so can go somewhere else for no transfer fee, but if he’s under contract the club has to reach an agreement with us before being allowed to make a move.

I think.


Unless they agreed to let him go under the condition of them getting compo.

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04 Jan 2019 14:15 #54 by Urban Designer
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We will never find out the truth - if we hadnt accepted the resignation would Chesterfield have had to pay compensation to us?

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04 Jan 2019 14:22 #55 by Chilledsilly
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Lost any respect I had for the man .... he's been touting the sack for the last 6 weeks with his comments about the playing staff... he's obviously been looking for an excuse !
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04 Jan 2019 14:26 - 04 Jan 2019 14:27 #56 by seesaw50
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musher441 wrote:

crunchblue wrote: He’s a f***ing c**t that’s what he is.

When he got the job plenty on here said he’d be gone at the first opportunity. Some even predicted by Christmas.


I said when he got the job he'd be gone by Xmas and I was only a week out.
I'm not even gonna pretend to be shocked at this.
He never stays anywhere long. He had 6 jobs in 2.5 years before coming here. Give it 6 months and he'll jack Chesterfield in and be back at Oldham.
The man's a journeyman with the loyalty of a mercenary.


Spot on I gave him to October half term! Just said to a pal the same ...he never seemed to embrace the city , yeah he mentioned the fans a few times but "mercenary" is the perfect word. ....funny character who seemed to have to work hard at being pleasant...all about him!

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04 Jan 2019 14:30 #57 by pacirv
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He was doing to good a job for the BODs, messing up their aim of relegation this year.

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04 Jan 2019 14:35 #58 by Exiledbelfastblue
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I'm not that bothered that Sheridan has gone, slightly surprised he lasted as long as he did. Results wise he has done a great job and I thank him for that, however you could tell he wasnt a happy lad pretty much from the moment he arrived. What bothers me is that whatever is going on Sheridan feels that Chesterfield is a better option, this does not bode well, clearly we have enough points to stay up this season but the ownership structure has got to change or next season will be a disaster. We have been on a downward spiral for 10 years now and sadly I don't think we have hit the bottom yet. I'm just so feckin sick of it, we lurch from one cock up to another, Jenkins has just thanked JS for his commitment-What!!!!! I just want them to do one so I can go back to following my club, dreaming that successful times lie ahead. Imagine having some ambition, drive, charisma, forward planning, honesty, or even just decency at the top table, wouldn't care which league we were in if we had the above.
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04 Jan 2019 14:36 #59 by Frankie
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Just saw Robbie Fowler in sports direct buying some training gear????????
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04 Jan 2019 14:40 - 04 Jan 2019 14:40 #60 by CCU
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BBC Sheffield Sports Editor:


Win or Lose, Up The Blues!
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04 Jan 2019 14:42 #61 by lummy8
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Danny Grainger was never interviewed for the managers job, never mind a second interview which gingerballs claimed not long ago.

He simply was never in the running no matter who has said what.

Disappointed he has left as I enjoyed his no nonsense approach, doesn’t work with everyone as we are finding out. He was doing a very good job though under the circumstances and now the job is a lot more appealing then it was in the summer.

David Holdsworth/EWM’s time to flex their muscles,promotion is a possibility at this moment in time.

So many good choices out there for all different reasons.

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04 Jan 2019 14:45 #62 by sirjimmyglass
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pacirv wrote: He was doing to good a job for the BODs, messing up their aim of relegation this year.


As much as I dislike the BOD and think they need to sell the club ASAP, this rhetoric that they want us to get relegated is really, really lazy.

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04 Jan 2019 14:54 #63 by orfc
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sirjimmyglass wrote:

pacirv wrote: He was doing to good a job for the BODs, messing up their aim of relegation this year.


As much as I dislike the BOD and think they need to sell the club ASAP, this rhetoric that they want us to get relegated is really, really lazy.


Not relegation, just them not exactly embracing the thought of promotion - after all League 1 has an EFL representative in place

www.efl.com/-more/all-about-the-efl/efl-board/
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04 Jan 2019 14:55 - 04 Jan 2019 15:01 #64 by seesaw50
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Taffy-P wrote:

ISNEddERSI wrote:

jakeyblain wrote: Can't help but think there's something more in that boxing day rant than what meets the eye. Key players falling out with him? Perhaps a training ground rift?


Just read on facebook: "Heard that grainger and Sheridan hated each other cos grainger applied for job and didn't get it so at Oldham game at half time Sheridan had a go at grainger and called him a fat lazy [censored] so grainger started on him. So they had each other by throat them devitt held back Sheridan then sheridan called him a goofy pikey b*****d then grainger and devitt went to PFA straight after the game to complain"

I posted a Trouble at mill post on Just after that !! I


I'd say at least the first half of this is utter rubbish! Facebook? Now the fount of all truths. Come on!

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04 Jan 2019 14:56 #65 by pie
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CCU wrote: BBC Sheffield Sports Editor:


If this is true, you can't knock Sheridan for going. Somebody offered me a load more money closer to home, i'd take it as well. That's before you even get on to the clowns he has to work with up here. Yes, Sheridan is a mercenary but not many people in football aren't, it's the nature of the game for players and managers.

Not totally convinced he was out for the sack, winning 5 on the spin isn't the usual way of getting that. Think he's just a combative character who says it how it is.

Done a hell of a lot better than anybody expected in his time here and he's seemingly done well for himself in his new job as well.
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04 Jan 2019 14:59 #66 by seesaw50
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CCU wrote: BBC Sheffield Sports Editor:


Just who tapped who up is the question?

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04 Jan 2019 15:09 #67 by GingerBalls
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lummy8 wrote: Danny Grainger was never interviewed for the managers job, never mind a second interview which gingerballs claimed not long ago.

He simply was never in the running no matter who has said what.

Disappointed he has left as I enjoyed his no nonsense approach, doesn’t work with everyone as we are finding out. He was doing a very good job though under the circumstances and now the job is a lot more appealing then it was in the summer.

David Holdsworth/EWM’s time to flex their muscles,promotion is a possibility at this moment in time.

So many good choices out there for all different reasons.


You can only say this because you don’t know of it Lummy. I’m not saying how I know this info, in fact I’m not saying owt else...

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04 Jan 2019 15:25 #68 by orfc
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How TF can Chesterfield pay afford the highest wages in L2/Conf? Reeks of shit or bust. Conference North for them next season.

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04 Jan 2019 15:42 #69 by Yorkie Blue
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I wish him well, in his time here he`s done a decent job under what must be trying circumstances.

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04 Jan 2019 15:42 #70 by lummy8
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GingerBalls wrote:

lummy8 wrote: Danny Grainger was never interviewed for the managers job, never mind a second interview which gingerballs claimed not long ago.

He simply was never in the running no matter who has said what.

Disappointed he has left as I enjoyed his no nonsense approach, doesn’t work with everyone as we are finding out. He was doing a very good job though under the circumstances and now the job is a lot more appealing then it was in the summer.

David Holdsworth/EWM’s time to flex their muscles,promotion is a possibility at this moment in time.

So many good choices out there for all different reasons.


You can only say this because you don’t know of it Lummy. I’m not saying how I know this info, in fact I’m not saying owt else...


The old “I know but can’t say how” one. When you said he had been interviewed twice a week or so ago on here,I thought that was interesting, so I asked the relevant parties involved along with other contacts who I know would 100% know l if you get what I mean, as well as those involved. All came back with same answer.

Maybe you have been told differently which is fair enough.

My point in it is that people are already saying DG and JS fell out maybe because of that, I think that’s not fair on either.

Certainly not on DG, now if we were to go on a losing run and suddenly people turn on him.

I feel you have been misinformed no matter how strong the source,which of course you will not give ;)
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04 Jan 2019 15:43 #71 by carwash
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orfc wrote: How TF can Chesterfield pay afford the highest wages in L2/Conf? Reeks of shit or bust. Conference North for them next season.


Chesterfield are a relatively big club in the National League. Say they pay him £160,000 a year but give him a contract with break clauses. If he keeps them up it will have cost them £80,000 this season. That looks good value. They also know that he is itinerant by nature so if he doesn't keep them up he'll probably want to move on elsewhere - Oldham, Notts County etc. It's a no-brainer from Chesterfield's point of view. Our loss their gain.
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04 Jan 2019 16:04 #72 by Gundog
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Bit pi33ed off really, more upheaval and uncertainty however it may work out, who knows? How may people would turn down a job for more dosh and nearer home rather than stay on the Titanic? thought not.

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04 Jan 2019 16:04 #73 by CarlisleWhite
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Bit surprised no one has mentioned AJs comments, as seems quite clear what has happened;
"Over the last few days, the board and John had discussed football squad matters, and these were being resolved". Being being the key word.
So, he has either asked for more money for signings, or to replace those leaving, or has kicked off about players leaving.
Never a dull moment.
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04 Jan 2019 16:05 #74 by triskelionblue
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Chesterfield clearly in a worse state than us financially so a strange decision

www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/46507929

Until you consider who owns our Club then maybe not.

It's probably the first time someone has left a club after 5 wins and in the play-off places to a team that hasn't won for 22 games and looks like it's heading down the league pyramid even further

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04 Jan 2019 16:40 #75 by loser
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The f*cking shambles continues. Hilarious.

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04 Jan 2019 16:43 #76 by Alan
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Can I just say Im f**king gutted by this news Sheridan has turned it round a bit of buzz was appearing again around the club.

Now we are back to shit on a stick negativity again.

Just F**k Off.
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04 Jan 2019 17:01 #77 by Zebby
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What a complete shower of incompetents our owners are
They hit the jackpot with Sheridan, he has built a squad on a shoestring getting us into playoff places a few points behind automatic places and they let him walk even worse they couldn't keep a bloke happy who was working wonders and I was confident he would have tweaked squad and made us stronger.
Sheridan goes down as one of my favourite blues managers given the state of the club and what he managed to achieve

These owners never cease to amaze it wouldn't have taken much to keep him happy

Be just and fear not
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04 Jan 2019 17:50 #78 by GingerBalls
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Hey Lummy. I don’t know who you asked, perhaps you don’t want to spout names on here either?

Maybe the fact that you work on BBC Radio Cumbria and also post on the fans message board is a reason you didn’t get the info I was privy to? Anyway I said I was not going to say owt else on the subject, but you know what it’s like being a Gingger!

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04 Jan 2019 18:09 #79 by seesaw50
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Lummys on radio Cumbria Sport show now

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04 Jan 2019 18:17 #80 by Laffy
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This can only be about money I’m afraid-buy cheap, buy twice.
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04 Jan 2019 18:27 #81 by Dancingbear
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Looks like theyre letting anyone on tonight ;)

There's only one way of life and that's your own!!!
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04 Jan 2019 18:32 #82 by TopDog74
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What a carry on

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04 Jan 2019 18:32 #83 by seesaw50
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Good points well made there dan

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04 Jan 2019 18:34 #84 by johnmc
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How are folk tying themselves in knots to find a conspiracy here?

The facts are another club made him an offer of much, much more money at a location without a 200 mile round trip commute.

Good luck to the fella, we'd all probably make that choice in his shoes, at his age.

Doesn't mean our board aren't awful and in desperate need of moving on, but facts are pretty much in the public domain so we shouldn't ignore them.
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04 Jan 2019 18:43 #85 by seesaw50
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CarlisleWhite wrote: Bit surprised no one has mentioned AJs comments, as seems quite clear what has happened;
"Over the last few days, the board and John had discussed football squad matters, and these were being resolved". Being being the key word.
So, he has either asked for more money for signings, or to replace those leaving, or has kicked off about players leaving.
Never a dull moment.


Radio Cumbria just mentioned them "the club thanks John for his commitment"

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04 Jan 2019 18:43 #86 by Happyblue
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Seems to be a lot in this , He seemed to be looking at some signings before the weekend maybe he's come in and been told that we don't have the money and thought the final straw was reached , why stay here when he can work closer to where he lives and more money.

Owners like the stadium, full of Sh!T
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04 Jan 2019 18:49 #87 by cocaineblues
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johnmc wrote: How are folk tying themselves in knots to find a conspiracy here?

The facts are another club made him an offer of much, much more money at a location without a 200 mile round trip commute.

Good luck to the fella, we'd all probably make that choice in his shoes, at his age.

Doesn't mean our board aren't awful and in desperate need of moving on, but facts are pretty much in the public domain so we shouldn't ignore them.


Congratulations on your first post today, out of around fifty, that doesn't mention our ex, ex manager.

At least we're not Mullen.
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04 Jan 2019 18:50 #88 by seesaw50
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But Happy he knew there was little money when he came in, however Holdsworth had made positive noises that signings could be made in the window, and it did seem like things were happening. Let's hope that's still the case

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04 Jan 2019 18:53 #89 by Laffy
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Difficult for both sides

Short contract,less money, no real upside due to strict budget,unhappy in Carlisle-when he is probably getting double at Chesterfield, longer contract and closer to home.

Was there a break clause in his contract at Xmas?Feels like it.

For the Club, you don’t want an unhappy leader whatever the reason.I struggle with the notion players were at odds with him after the winning run.

Big question now is which loan signings are still onside?
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04 Jan 2019 18:53 #90 by 182blue
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It’s no surprise, I’m over it already.
I am sure he had reasons to fall out with various folk, the same as he has done in his 10 previous jobs, in the last 10 years, doesn’t mean the reasons aren’t valid.
Easy come, easy go.
I can’t say he has done a good job, as quitting after 7 months basically wipes out all of the positive stuff.
Good riddance.
Managers come and go and players come and go, they don’t give a shit about Carlisle United.
Sheridan will park up his caravan elsewhere soon enough, I’ll be at Brunton Park tomorrow.
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04 Jan 2019 19:00 #91 by pie
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Were Chesterfield not for cancelling their Xmas party due to the financial impact of that planned protest?

Must have been some generous Christmas cards to go from that to (supposedly) paying top rate across two divisions for Sheridan!

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04 Jan 2019 19:10 #92 by Alan
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Who was that f**king Dan on BBC Radio Cumbria a pro owners trust stooge if ever I've heard one ;-)
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04 Jan 2019 19:11 #93 by Mullen103
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Allen at chesterfield has money, but has no clue in running a football club.

Sheridan will sort the football side out. I can see Gerard going there with him.

Of course it’s about money. As a club we’ve none and can’t match Chesterfields offer. An offer of better money and closer to home is a no brainer!

Worry is a club struggling 3rd bottom of the league below, in a bigger shambles than us, can offer more money.

Anyway it’s shambolic and turns out to be a shambolic appointment although it brought excitement for some over Xmas.

Of course they was a break free clause. Chesttfieid knew about it as soon as they sacked Allen, Sheridan was their man and a director said sO.

I think we can gather owners/managers just say anything in interviews, waste of time reading them.

At least we’re not Stockport

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04 Jan 2019 19:11 - 04 Jan 2019 19:13 #94 by Northumbrian
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I'm.not sure I buy the stories of rows with players and a split dressing room.... a divided team doesn't win 5 games in a row.

Then you factor in timing.... transfer window... a couple of vital loan players leave... rumours of money issues involved. It all points to money. We haven't got a pot to piss in... I don't blame him getting out now.... he has put us in a play off position.. if the BOD won't back him now then they never will.

Our board are an absolute shower.... they pay peanuts, give short contracts and then expect loyalty. I don't blame him leaving for a pay rise and a longer contract... we'd probably all do the same. For all those calling him a mercenary... that pretty much applies to anybody in football... it is a job to them pure and simple.

He did an excellent job on a shoestring, the football was much improved and I have enjoyed the season way more than last year. Gutted to see him leave now .... but not surprised given our BOD.

I expect a suitably shit appointment to be made just as the transfer window shuts... then we don't have to pay for new signings I've already had mates taking the piss tonight after this news... this club is an embarrassment.

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04 Jan 2019 19:12 #95 by CCU
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Probably more money in the Conference than L2 these days Mullen, as teams gamble on getting into the League...

Win or Lose, Up The Blues!
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04 Jan 2019 19:18 #96 by Mullen103
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CCU wrote: Probably more money in the Conference than L2 these days Mullen, as teams gamble on getting into the League...


Yes, with a quite a few teams but Chesterfield went down last year and look at them now.

At least we’re not Stockport

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04 Jan 2019 20:10 #97 by pie
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CCU wrote: Probably more money in the Conference than L2 these days Mullen, as teams gamble on getting into the League...


Spot on. Big one going on at Fylde which is in danger of going tits up quickly based on the last numbers I saw coming out of there.

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04 Jan 2019 20:43 #98 by DeckchairBlue
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there is no wage cap on the conference is there? So club's can spend what they want to try and get into the league.

Don't think there's as much of a conspiracy here as the usual on here try to make out, he swaps club's every 6 months, he's been offered very high wages for this level and a long contract (so good compo if he gets sacked).

We just need to make sure we appoint the right person to replace him.

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04 Jan 2019 20:46 #99 by BlueAl
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That's the worrying bit, was shambolic and embarrassing last time.
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04 Jan 2019 20:47 #100 by seesaw50
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182blue wrote: It’s no surprise, I’m over it already.
I am sure he had reasons to fall out with various folk, the same as he has done in his 10 previous jobs, in the last 10 years, doesn’t mean the reasons aren’t valid.
Easy come, easy go.
I can’t say he has done a good job, as quitting after 7 months basically wipes out all of the positive stuff.
Good riddance.
Managers come and go and players come and go, they don’t give a shit about Carlisle United.
Sheridan will park up his caravan elsewhere soon enough, I’ll be at Brunton Park tomorrow.


I had him marginally ahead of Roddy (The plasterer) Collins in the popularity standing

To have been born Cumbrian
is to have won the lottery of life !

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