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06 Jan 2019 14:04 - 06 Jan 2019 14:05 #1 by CCU
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Undoubtedly yes.

Poor standard in L2, nobody will want to come here if we keep winning games and we play an ideal style for away games.

Lincoln, Milton Keynes and Bury all still have to come here too, also Exeter of those in Play-Offs. A trip to Forest Green should hold no fear either, and we’ve played Mansfield twice.

Worth a couple of shillings in your local Bookies at a general 50/1 (66/1 can be found online too)...

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06 Jan 2019 14:08 #2 by crunchblue
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Ask again in a few weeks.

As things stand, with Gerrard out of contract, Yates loan deal up, Nadesan loan deal up... not a chance.

However if we extend the deals of the above players or replace them with equal or better quality then yes we’ve got a chance the way we’re playing.
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06 Jan 2019 14:09 #3 by cufcmike
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Like you say it is a poor league. If you were to pit this squad against our 2006 or 1995 squads they'd get battered IMO. We've already played most of the tougher sides away from home. Hopefully we can strengthen rather than weaken in January and it could be a strong possibility.

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06 Jan 2019 15:02 #4 by Bruntonpasty
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I agree, if we keep hold of what we've got(Loanees and contracted) Add a couple and stay relatively injury free, we have a chance but. And it is a massive BUT, our owners/lenders would need to put some cash forward and prove they have some ambition. In football terms £200k, £300k is not a lot at this stage of the season if you have real ambitions of promotion.

Do you believe they have the balls to go for it? Or will they stick? They will realise that we only need perhaps ten points to be guaranteed safety this season, maybe not even that many.

They don't like it up 'em!

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06 Jan 2019 15:31 #5 by crunchblue
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I don’t think they’ll have the balls to go for it.

I think they’ll see our current situation as a big opportunity. But by big opportunity I don’t mean to kick on and gain promotion, they’ll see an opportunity to save even more money by making more wage cuts on the staff and players side of things between now and the end of the season, seeing as we’re in a comfortable safe position.

Hope they prove me wrong.
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06 Jan 2019 16:10 #6 by seesaw50
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crunchblue wrote: Ask again in a few weeks.

As things stand, with Gerrard out of contract, Yates loan deal up, Nadesan loan deal up... not a chance.

However if we extend the deals of the above players or replace them with equal or better quality then yes we’ve got a chance the way we’re playing.


Remind me is it Sowerby on a season long loan...or was it supposed to be Yates, but they've recalled him.

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06 Jan 2019 16:18 #7 by CCU
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seesaw50 wrote: Remind me is it Sowerby on a season long loan...or was it supposed to be Yates, but they've recalled him.


Neither. Only Fryer and Slater were on Season Long Deals. The rest were half Season...

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06 Jan 2019 16:19 #8 by Kaiser Blue
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Mathematically - yes
Realistically - no

I think the belief in the club right now is really good compared to the apathy of last year but I still reckon we’ll only keep in the play-off fight rather than head into the automatics and get promoted by winning the entire division. I’d love to be proven wrong, though.

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06 Jan 2019 16:51 #9 by Zebby
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Basically depends on other clubs letting us keep their players and finding another couple ..however I fear the team sheet could look quite different in a week or two

Plus the Devitt rumours

Hope I'm wrong

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06 Jan 2019 18:39 #10 by jakeyblain
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Think you're getting a bit carried away here CCU. Before a ball was kicked this season I don't think anyone on here would have expected us to be where we currently are. I think play offs is realistic certainly but I for one will sit back and enjoy the second half of the season and see what happens. Either way we're not going to go down this season so hopefully a good January on and off the pitch and we will be where we are at the end of the season.

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06 Jan 2019 18:42 #11 by I love jamesphillips
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CCU wrote: Undoubtedly yes.

Poor standard in L2, nobody will want to come here if we keep winning games and we play an ideal style for away games.



Lincoln, Milton Keynes and Bury all still have to come here too, also Exeter of those in Play-Offs. A trip
to Forest Green should hold no fear either, and we’ve played Mansfield twice.




Worth a couple of shillings in your local Bookies at a general 50/1 (66/1 can be found online too)...



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06 Jan 2019 18:54 #12 by CCU
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I love jamesphillips wrote: Dan dan dan



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06 Jan 2019 22:16 #13 by Mr Quint
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I’d [censored] love us to win the league just to [censored] off those Cowley [censored] and Lincoln city.

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06 Jan 2019 23:55 #14 by I love jamesphillips
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CCU wrote:

I love jamesphillips wrote: Dan dan dan











Pete , Mike and repeat it after me new Carlisle fan .dan Dan dan

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07 Jan 2019 00:23 #15 by Urban Designer
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No - I don't think we will even get in the top 7 - January will tell but I don't think Sowerby will be here and Im sure the short sighted board will take a 100k bid for Devitt (probably from one of our promotion rivals).

I hope this doesn't happen but the mind set of the board is that they are safe and 3,500 will turn up no matter what.

Jenkins has never won a promotion in how many years?

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07 Jan 2019 00:34 - 07 Jan 2019 00:36 #16 by munchymagic
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Makes me laugh when folk moan about how much Keith spent as the same players he signed are tearing up trees at the moment and are actually pricing themselves out of our own market.

If we had signed them up for longer then our squad would be worth some cash currently but instead folk moan about the 10k that was squandered on the crowd jobby when it was out of season and not much available - the main cash will be wasted on not extending the contracts of the current lot and not getting any fee.

Hope, Parkes, Etuhu and the others are hardly shabby are they?
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07 Jan 2019 10:02 - 07 Jan 2019 10:02 #17 by CCU
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For comparison, Accrington were 4th at this point last Season...


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07 Jan 2019 10:15 #18 by sussexrob
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CCU... Yes, they were in 4th place, but with a game in hand as well.
We are now in the same position having played more games than most of those above and around us. Love to be proved wrong but if
we stay in the top 7 it will be an achievement not many of us were expecting.

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07 Jan 2019 10:25 #19 by CCU
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The Teams above having to come here is the same as having a game in hand for me.

Imagine beating Lincoln on Good Friday to go top, in front of 8000, and watching the Cowley’s implode...

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07 Jan 2019 10:30 #20 by sussexrob
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I would love to see us stuff Lincoln and the Cowley double act, but I think you are dreaming if you seriously believe we can go on and get automatic promotion ( or better ) But I really hope the team can prove you correct.

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07 Jan 2019 10:57 #21 by ParcelPete
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Urban Designer wrote: No - I don't think we will even get in the top 7 - January will tell but I don't think Sowerby will be here and Im sure the short sighted board will take a 100k bid for Devitt (probably from one of our promotion rivals).

I hope this doesn't happen but the mind set of the board is that they are safe and 3,500 will turn up no matter what.

Jenkins has never won a promotion in how many years?


Think you are over estimating our board,those morons would probably sell Devitt for £30k.

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07 Jan 2019 12:11 #22 by Northumbrian
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Still the Curle love in eh Munchy? Yes they have turned our to be good players... but he was incapable of getting the best out of them, given that they have all massively upped their performance levels under a decent manager/coaching set up.

It doesn't change the fact that for a little over half the budget that Curle had, Sheridan has significantly out-performed him.

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07 Jan 2019 13:06 #23 by Flatcap
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We have also lost more league games than any other team in the top ten.

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07 Jan 2019 14:28 #24 by wetheriggscufc
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I think one of the best things about this run is that it's come from nowhere. Realistically, I had us finishing about 15th at the start of the season. Sheridan did a fantastic job with the very little he had, bringing some vital players in and also transforming previous underachievers. I don't think we'll win the league, but I wouldn't back against us being in the automatic promotion fight - this league is all about form and the we are growing in confidence by the game.

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07 Jan 2019 14:32 - 07 Jan 2019 14:34 #25 by nobbyblue
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Northumbrian wrote: Still the Curle love in eh Munchy? Yes they have turned our to be good players... but he was incapable of getting the best out of them, given that they have all massively upped their performance levels under a decent manager/coaching set up.

It doesn't change the fact that for a little over half the budget that Curle had, Sheridan has significantly out-performed him.

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Seasons not finished yet!

Keith had us at the top of the league at one point which is better than 5th.

Plus I have my doubts about the level of the budget cuts.
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07 Jan 2019 15:27 #26 by munchymagic
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Northumbrian wrote: Still the Curle love in eh Munchy? Yes they have turned our to be good players... but he was incapable of getting the best out of them, given that they have all massively upped their performance levels under a decent manager/coaching set up.

It doesn't change the fact that for a little over half the budget that Curle had, Sheridan has significantly out-performed him.

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As Nobby points out the season is not over yet, you may end up being right Northumbrian.

I still cannot believe the flack Curle gets for apparently bringing in a load of rubbish, especially Etuhu as these players he brought in have hit great form and as for him wasting a lot of money you honestly reckon that you are going to attract some of the best players in the this league like Devitt for peanuts do you?

Sheridan inherited a great squad and did an equally great job of filling the gaps left by departing players.

The way Curles signings are playing then I for one am gutted that they are not on longer contracts as if they had an extra eighteen months left on them then they would command a significant fee with their current form so Holdsworths policy of getting value for money with contracts means virtually no transfer fees coming in so he cancels his worth out completely as he is only a few bad signings away from not being able to bring decent players in and what we do have are worth no money.

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07 Jan 2019 15:51 #27 by orfc
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But let's face it, if they were on longer contracts and worth a bit of cash they'd be getting sold this month. The fact they've only got 6 months to go means they might stay till the end of the season and we might go up on this form. Masterful tacticianinging from Holdsworth!

But yeah, saying you want to make money from transfers and having 90% of your squad constantly out of contract at the end of the season doesn't add up.
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07 Jan 2019 15:59 #28 by Zebby
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Munchy Curle gets flack because he brought some very good players in (as well as some dross) and did nothing with them the football wasn't great most of the time and his tombola style selection policy ,Wyke in and out of team like a yoyo eventually had to play him every week started scoring every week,Devitt in and out of team under Curle looks twice the player now as does Ehutu,Parkes improved since KC left and on and on it goes

I have nothing against Curle as a bloke found him quite engaging in fact just don't get the high regards he's held in just because he spent money

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07 Jan 2019 16:10 #29 by orfc
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Re Keith, this is what someone called 'memyhead' says on the northampton message board:

"He's steadied the ship as we were on a massive downward spiral...

He's very professional and takes no crap which again is what we needed...

He's working with all the other managers signings...

Doing OK so far imo but needs to stop the continual tinkering from now on"

Sounds familiar!

www.smfserver.com/forums/thehotelend/ind....msg378203#msg378203

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07 Jan 2019 16:11 #30 by Markovitch
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Don't dispute that Etuhu is playing well but it is about bloody time. Especially if he is on the money being bandied about.
For readers of the Football League Paper, there is a laugh in there this week. Stevenage management team brand the Crewe managers a disgrace! This would be the same Stevenage team that wasted time like no other team seen- I remember them all coming off eh pitch for a drink at one stage in Shamal's nightmare game. Cheered me right up reading that

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07 Jan 2019 16:13 #31 by munchymagic
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orfc wrote: But let's face it, if they were on longer contracts and worth a bit of cash they'd be getting sold this month. The fact they've only got 6 months to go means they might stay till the end of the season and we might go up on this form. Masterful tacticianinging from Holdsworth!

But yeah, saying you want to make money from transfers and having 90% of your squad constantly out of contract at the end of the season doesn't add up.


To be honest orfc I would prefer them to be sold this month if it meant that the club used the cash to pay off Jenkins and his two chums.

On second thoughts the cash would only vanish into a hole of debt never to be seen again.

The worrying part is that Holdsworth is very vocal on how little value Curle got from his contracts so I would guess that anything Holdsworth offers to our best players will be rejected and they will be off.

Look at the end of last season - not even Curle could get his own players to re-sign contracts they were that poor, apart from Grainger who I can imagine mainly signed as he is from up here.

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07 Jan 2019 16:19 #32 by munchymagic
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Zebby wrote: Munchy Curle gets flack because he brought some very good players in (as well as some dross) and did nothing with them the football wasn't great most of the time and his tombola style selection policy ,Wyke in and out of team like a yoyo eventually had to play him every week started scoring every week,Devitt in and out of team under Curle looks twice the player now as does Ehutu,Parkes improved since KC left and on and on it goes

I have nothing against Curle as a bloke found him quite engaging in fact just don't get the high regards he's held in just because he spent money


Not saying he is perfect Zebby, far from it but I reckon he gets more grief on here than praise!

The money he 'wasted' is a myth as these players are still here and far from rubbish - you could argue that Sheridan/Holdsworth brought in the lesser players in the squad - not sure that you can count loan players as even Curle brought Nadesan in.

Oh and by the way - even 'the original Tinkerman' won the league eventually :)

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10 Mar 2019 22:07 #33 by Yorkie Blue
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Can we win the league, most likely not, but 73 points might well be enough to get into the play offs, for us that`d be another 17 points, 5 wins and 2 draws.
Winnable - Home - Notts County, Crawley, Cambridge United. Away - Yeovil, Grimsby, Forest Green, Stevenage.
Dodgy - Home - Lincoln, Bury. Away - Tranmere.

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10 Mar 2019 22:10 #34 by Mr Quint
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Can we win the league?
No! We will make a lot of friends.

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11 Mar 2019 07:52 #35 by nobbyblue
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500/1 to win the league if anyone fancies it.

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11 Mar 2019 08:31 #36 by ParcelPete
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Greedy gets,should be at least 1000/1,if we win our remaining 10 games we would have 86 points,Lincoln need 15 point from 10 games to have 87.

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