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08 Jan 2019 11:49 - 08 Jan 2019 19:47 #1 by CCU





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08 Jan 2019 11:53 #2 by jakeyblain
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Mentioned that we're getting compensation for Sheridan which is good

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08 Jan 2019 12:00 #3 by johnmc
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Almost sounds professional and like the structure works this, like...

Fair play to Holdsworth, who it appears is approaching a tough situation with the calm it requires and in the best interests of the club. Earning his EWM corn.

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08 Jan 2019 12:15 #4 by Kaiser Blue
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Finally, a bit of sense coming out of David Holdsworth/the board’s mouth - well said!

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08 Jan 2019 12:19 #5 by seesaw50
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Yes all sounds good, but Its a distraction...put it to bed quickly DH and co.

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08 Jan 2019 12:34 #6 by Latrigg blue
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That's okay ,but we could be short on numbers for Saturday.
Can't see any players coming in until the manager is in place.

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08 Jan 2019 12:43 #7 by Waltero
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That's their agenda, drag it out until all the decent players have been snapped up as per last January
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08 Jan 2019 12:43 #8 by sirjimmyglass
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Is it not being about money a good thing?

It could well be but if it's not about money, it can't be about it being a better opportunity, why has he taken it?

It could well be wanting to move back home but leaving after 6 months, knowing where we are geographically, it's a strange move.

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08 Jan 2019 12:51 #9 by Arragorn
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we will be lucky to get a decision on the manager/head coach before the transfer window shuts knowing how quick the BOD are at doing anything.

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08 Jan 2019 12:55 #10 by seesaw50
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His position became untenable tho Sir Jim...ie the working relationship with key players ended....AND he carried out the threat he made after the Boxing Day 6 -0 win!... " if enough don't like it , I'll walk" referring to his "demanding" management style. So we can only assume enough of them didn't like it !!

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08 Jan 2019 12:59 #11 by PaddockRanger
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can someone point out to me where a Director's Press Conference has been mentioned?

Jan 19th is a saturday

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08 Jan 2019 13:00 #12 by Mullen103
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Of course it’s about Money, well for Sheridan it is, you don’t go to a conference club in the relegation places if it wasn’t, yes locations an issue but it’s money. It’s always about the money.

If we can’t afford for the new manager to get his own guys in then it’s simple. Got to promote from within, as we’ve seen with Skelton, the old guys may not get on causing issues.

We might be able to sign some players and keep us going for another month with this compo. Done well I think here as Allen will splash money so good to get a bit of it.

At least we’re not Stockport

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08 Jan 2019 13:01 #13 by CCU
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PaddockRanger wrote: can someone point out to me where a Director's Press Conference has been mentioned?

Jan 19th is a saturday


I’d say Jon Colman’s Tweets in the first post are enough?!

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08 Jan 2019 13:01 #14 by Mullen103
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PaddockRanger wrote: can someone point out to me where a Director's Press Conference has been mentioned?

Jan 19th is a saturday


Was today I think - jan 2019

At least we’re not Stockport

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08 Jan 2019 13:14 #15 by PaddockRanger
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Mullen103 wrote:

PaddockRanger wrote: can someone point out to me where a Director's Press Conference has been mentioned?

Jan 19th is a saturday


Was today I think - jan 2019



cheers CCU and Mullen.......mistook the 19 as a date rather than year!
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08 Jan 2019 13:22 #16 by Waltero
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Why should any job be offered to Skelton ? he didn't last long at the Reds did he. Loyalty works both ways

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08 Jan 2019 13:35 #17 by tommycoleman1
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Perhaps he left because of the working situation with a very recent manager if ours, anyway whoever gets the job.... no wholesale changes behind the scenes is a win situation.

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08 Jan 2019 14:27 #18 by Waltero
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We'll have to agree to disagree then Tommy. That's footie for you
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08 Jan 2019 14:53 #19 by tommycoleman1
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Waltero, i have recieved a call from a mutual friend, are you workinh tomorrow morning ?

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08 Jan 2019 16:18 #20 by Markovitch
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Can't we just tell Chesterfield that the compensation is equal to the fee plus signing on fee for Nadesan? If they refuse we'll hold Sheridan's registration until 1 February. Then Nadesan comers on a free

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08 Jan 2019 16:43 #21 by munchymagic
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Markovitch wrote: Can't we just tell Chesterfield that the compensation is equal to the fee plus signing on fee for Nadesan? If they refuse we'll hold Sheridan's registration until 1 February. Then Nadesan comers on a free


That's what I suggested on the other thread - surely his contract is worth circa 40-50k which may be enough in full for Nadesan, even if they want an extra 25k then the money saved on Sheridans wages will cover that easily.

It is common practice to pay for transfers in instalments anyhow so if we do not snare Nadesan from Fleetwood then it is penny pinching again from the board and that 50k will go straight into Jenkins pocket - it is down to Jenkins now to make a statement and make some signings.

Because of Sheridans departure then they will virtually cost nothing, the money goes adrift and there will be questions to be answered and they better not say they used the cash to sign Gerrard.

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08 Jan 2019 16:51 #22 by Bluedevil
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munchymagic wrote:

Markovitch wrote: Can't we just tell Chesterfield that the compensation is equal to the fee plus signing on fee for Nadesan? If they refuse we'll hold Sheridan's registration until 1 February. Then Nadesan comers on a free


That's what I suggested on the other thread - surely his contract is worth circa 40-50k which may be enough in full for Nadesan, even if they want an extra 25k then the money saved on Sheridans wages will cover that easily.

It is common practice to pay for transfers in instalments anyhow so if we do not snare Nadesan from Fleetwood then it is penny pinching again from the board and that 50k will go straight into Jenkins pocket - it is down to Jenkins now to make a statement and make some signings.

Because of Sheridans departure then they will virtually cost nothing, the money goes adrift and there will be questions to be answered and they better not say they used the cash to sign Gerrard.


Bloody hell Munchy how much do you think it costs to run a football club??
Or are we gong down that Curle route, "we'll just spend it anyway and hope for the best", fat lot of good that did us didn't it??

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08 Jan 2019 17:02 #23 by munchymagic
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Bluedevil wrote:

munchymagic wrote:

Markovitch wrote: Can't we just tell Chesterfield that the compensation is equal to the fee plus signing on fee for Nadesan? If they refuse we'll hold Sheridan's registration until 1 February. Then Nadesan comers on a free


That's what I suggested on the other thread - surely his contract is worth circa 40-50k which may be enough in full for Nadesan, even if they want an extra 25k then the money saved on Sheridans wages will cover that easily.

It is common practice to pay for transfers in instalments anyhow so if we do not snare Nadesan from Fleetwood then it is penny pinching again from the board and that 50k will go straight into Jenkins pocket - it is down to Jenkins now to make a statement and make some signings.

Because of Sheridans departure then they will virtually cost nothing, the money goes adrift and there will be questions to be answered and they better not say they used the cash to sign Gerrard.


Bloody hell Munchy how much do you think it costs to run a football club??
Or are we gong down that Curle route, "we'll just spend it anyway and hope for the best", fat lot of good that did us didn't it??


We haven't got a manager Bluedevil so I guess it would be Holdsworth this time who would get the blame.

However - I don't think you will find one single person on this messageboard apart from yourself perhaps that would moan at Holdsworth who would begrudge or criticise Holdsworth for splashing the cash on Gerrard/Yates till the end of the season and snaring Nadesan.

To be fair, if all three had departed then we would have had to replace them anyhow.

"fat lot of good that did us didn't it??"

Sheridan was left with a depleted but decent squad - you sound like you are one of the Carlisle United board pal :)

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08 Jan 2019 17:15 - 08 Jan 2019 17:42 #24 by Bluedevil
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munchymagic wrote:

Bluedevil wrote:

munchymagic wrote:

Markovitch wrote: Can't we just tell Chesterfield that the compensation is equal to the fee plus signing on fee for Nadesan? If they refuse we'll hold Sheridan's registration until 1 February. Then Nadesan comers on a free


That's what I suggested on the other thread - surely his contract is worth circa 40-50k which may be enough in full for Nadesan, even if they want an extra 25k then the money saved on Sheridans wages will cover that easily.

It is common practice to pay for transfers in instalments anyhow so if we do not snare Nadesan from Fleetwood then it is penny pinching again from the board and that 50k will go straight into Jenkins pocket - it is down to Jenkins now to make a statement and make some signings.

Because of Sheridans departure then they will virtually cost nothing, the money goes adrift and there will be questions to be answered and they better not say they used the cash to sign Gerrard.


Bloody hell Munchy how much do you think it costs to run a football club??
Or are we gong down that Curle route, "we'll just spend it anyway and hope for the best", fat lot of good that did us didn't it??


We haven't got a manager Bluedevil so I guess it would be Holdsworth this time who would get the blame.

However - I don't think you will find one single person on this messageboard apart from yourself perhaps that would moan at Holdsworth who would begrudge or criticise Holdsworth for splashing the cash on Gerrard/Yates till the end of the season and snaring Nadesan.

To be fair, if all three had departed then we would have had to replace them anyhow.

"fat lot of good that did us didn't it??"

Sheridan was left with a depleted but decent squad - you sound like you are one of the Carlisle United board pal :)


it may surprise you but I agree....(to a certain extent) , but we must not get into the situation where we start paying players more than what they are worth, there are plenty who will try it on, and old Curly Chops was seemingly a dab hand at it.
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08 Jan 2019 17:38 #25 by munchymagic
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Bluedevil wrote:

munchymagic wrote:

Bluedevil wrote:

munchymagic wrote:

Markovitch wrote: Can't we just tell Chesterfield that the compensation is equal to the fee plus signing on fee for Nadesan? If they refuse we'll hold Sheridan's registration until 1 February. Then Nadesan comers on a free


That's what I suggested on the other thread - surely his contract is worth circa 40-50k which may be enough in full for Nadesan, even if they want an extra 25k then the money saved on Sheridans wages will cover that easily.

It is common practice to pay for transfers in instalments anyhow so if we do not snare Nadesan from Fleetwood then it is penny pinching again from the board and that 50k will go straight into Jenkins pocket - it is down to Jenkins now to make a statement and make some signings.

Because of Sheridans departure then they will virtually cost nothing, the money goes adrift and there will be questions to be answered and they better not say they used the cash to sign Gerrard.


Bloody hell Munchy how much do you think it costs to run a football club??
Or are we gong down that Curle route, "we'll just spend it anyway and hope for the best", fat lot of good that did us didn't it??


We haven't got a manager Bluedevil so I guess it would be Holdsworth this time who would get the blame.

However - I don't think you will find one single person on this messageboard apart from yourself perhaps that would moan at Holdsworth who would begrudge or criticise Holdsworth for splashing the cash on Gerrard/Yates till the end of the season and snaring Nadesan.

To be fair, if all three had departed then we would have had to replace them anyhow.

"fat lot of good that did us didn't it??"

Sheridan was left with a depleted but decent squad - you sound like you are one of the Carlisle United board pal :)


it may surprise you but I agree....(to a certain extent) , but we must not get into the situation where we start paying players more than what they are worth, there are plenty who will try it on, and old Curly Chops was seemingly a dab hand at it.


The players that Curle signed that are probably on more that Holdsworth thinks that they are worth but at the same time they have put us on the cusp of promotion so basically you get what you pay for.

Enjoy the good times pal because without a cash injection then this squad will be ripped apart at the end of the season.

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08 Jan 2019 18:05 #26 by CCU
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08 Jan 2019 18:25 - 08 Jan 2019 18:26 #27 by munchymagic
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CCU wrote:


What I read from that was that Sheridan did not want to be here so we sold our manager to Chesterfield.

I am okay with that if the compensation is not a measly 20k or something as we need more cash for Nadesan.

Sheridan has come out of this looking really bad I think.
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08 Jan 2019 18:53 #28 by nobbyblue
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“It wasn’t about money. When he left, John said, ‘I’ve got no issues with the club, how I’ve been treated, the support I’ve been given and how everything’s worked, the relationships…’ That has not been an issue for him.
“It was other factors, and therefore there was nothing we could have done at that point.


What were these factors. Holdsworth said they would remain 'private'.

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08 Jan 2019 19:02 #29 by Waltero
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I'm intrigued Tommy who can this mutual friend be. But answer to your question is yes. I hope I'm not in for a big shock
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08 Jan 2019 19:06 #30 by munchymagic
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Waltero wrote: I'm intrigued Tommy who can this mutual friend be. But answer to your question is yes. I hope I'm not in for a big shock


Gianfranco Zola in a Carlisle United shirt with a flag above his head parading around on the Brunton Park pitch, mark my words :)

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08 Jan 2019 19:14 #31 by Waltero
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Can't wait thought it might have been one of my exxes
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08 Jan 2019 19:18 #32 by munchymagic
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Waltero wrote: Can't wait thought it might have been one of my exxes


Why - did you expect it to be that silver haired Italian lad who played for Middlesbrough :)

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08 Jan 2019 19:27 - 08 Jan 2019 19:28 #33 by Waltero
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I'm clueless mate. I'm waiting for a response from Tommy can't stand the suspense. I didn't think I had any friends let alone mutual ones
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08 Jan 2019 20:13 #34 by melbourneblues
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It’s funny how everybody was slagging Holdsworth off on here the other week, now it looks like he’s steadying the ship off the pitch and he’s the new messiah, give him time and then judge him.

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08 Jan 2019 20:24 #35 by BlueRay
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What’s everyone’s thoughts on possible head coach style setup with a director of football rather than a traditional manager?

Always thought it was a bit over the top personally but it seems to be the way most clubs are going and guess all will end up that way eventually. Might be a chance for us to get ahead of a few...

Certainly seems to help in times like this having a bit of continuity from the director of football- whatever you think of him!

Hopefully will also mean the signings that were lined up (presumably by Holdsworth) will still come in.

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08 Jan 2019 20:34 #36 by CCU
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What we effectively had with Sheridan, except we still use the term ‘Manager’.

Holdsworth clearly deals with the nitty gritty stuff, leaving the ‘Manager’ to get on with Coaching.

Once Man Utd go down this road, everyone will start using the terms!

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08 Jan 2019 20:45 #37 by 182blue
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As a general rule, Ray, I do think it seems a bit bloated having some many coaches, Directors of Football and everyone else involved, for a League 2 club.
It just seems a bit odd to me having so many non-playing football staff/directors and not being able to afford to sign players.
However, undoubtedly in the scenario of the manager walking out, it has put us in a much stronger position to steady the ship.

Following today’s good news regarding Gerrard, if we have more good news over the next couple of weeks, then I think we would have to give credit where it is due.
It really could be a turning point away from a lot of the ill-feeling surrounding Holdsworth and co.

We all just want to see the blues do well and I would be happy to admit I was wrong in my previous criticism, if this is how things transpire.
Up until recently , I have struggled to see what Holdsworth brings to the party. I get the principle of the structure, but don’t really see what he has done , to make a difference in real terms.
The football has been excellent recently, but I have seen that more as credit to Sheridan and the coaching staff.

If ever Holdsworth is going to earn his money , it is now and over the next few weeks and the way things have been handled over the last few days is encouraging.
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08 Jan 2019 20:57 #38 by nobbyblue
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You're right 182blue. Too many chiefs and no enough Indians!

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08 Jan 2019 21:10 #39 by orfc
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nobbyblue wrote: “It wasn’t about money. When he left, John said, ‘I’ve got no issues with the club, how I’ve been treated, the support I’ve been given and how everything’s worked, the relationships…’ That has not been an issue for him.
“It was other factors, and therefore there was nothing we could have done at that point.


What were these factors. Holdsworth said they would remain 'private'.


So everything was great, apart from the fact he had a massive strop and [censored] off

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08 Jan 2019 21:22 #40 by nobbyblue
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Maybe personal problems?

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08 Jan 2019 21:31 - 08 Jan 2019 21:33 #41 by munchymagic
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Basically Holdsworth will leech off anything and everything he can for plaudits and he cannot lose really as if the manager is crap then he can say not my fault constantly - Nixon used that term 'steadying the ship' a lot as well.

What has he done in reality - agreed a few loan deals and signed Miller and Collin.

If we go up it will not because of Holdsworth, it will be because of Keith Curles ex players as Holdsworth has signed bugger all as mainly the loan players and Gerrard came in because of Sheridan!

Mr contract boy deserves sod all credit as he is doing the job that Clibbens should be doing and Clibbens is doing the job that Nixon should be doing and Holdsworth is doing the job that Nixon should be doing....
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08 Jan 2019 22:17 #42 by melbourneblues
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If DH manages to bring back another couple of our loan players Then that’ll be a good piece of work especially without a manager in place, munchy let it go yes KC brought these players in but he obviously never got the best of them, JS did because he never chopped and changed the team every week, oh and by the way DH is here because PD brought him in, and without PD we would t be where we are now.

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08 Jan 2019 22:31 #43 by munchymagic
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melbourneblues wrote: If DH manages to bring back another couple of our loan players Then that’ll be a good piece of work especially without a manager in place, munchy let it go yes KC brought these players in but he obviously never got the best of them, JS did because he never chopped and changed the team every week, oh and by the way DH is here because PD brought him in, and without PD we would t be where we are now.


I agree to a point as in the PD bit Melbourne but will reserve my judgement on Holdsworth till the end of the season as to be fair the Fleetwood connection was already made by Curle and firmly bolstered by Sheridan so I cannot see a single thing that Holdsworth has brought to the table unless anyone has got any revelations.

The bloke rides on the coat-tails of people who know what they are doing.

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08 Jan 2019 22:35 #44 by Zebby
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Munchy I'm not sure what Holdsworth has done wrong to upset you apart from being part of a management team this season that has so far outperformed the previous regimes showing that decent well drilled teams with some decent coaching can do well in this league and that it's not all about paying big wages

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08 Jan 2019 22:37 #45 by melbourneblues
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Well he’s managed to get rid of the bonus scheme that KC nearly bankrupted us with, now he’s trying to offload Jones and that fantastic signing Bennett.

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08 Jan 2019 22:39 #46 by Zebby
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Meant to mention I don't know who it was that managed to get Cole Stockton palmed off to Tranmere but that was as good a bit of management as any of the signings made

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08 Jan 2019 22:41 #47 by munchymagic
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melbourneblues wrote: Well he’s managed to get rid of the bonus scheme that KC nearly bankrupted us with, now he’s trying to offload Jones and that fantastic signing Bennett.


I'm not privileged to that information pal but you can hardly bankrupt yourself when you are worth twenty odd million.

Jenkins would not have bankrupted the club.
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09 Jan 2019 21:29 #48 by melbourneblues
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munchymagic wrote:

melbourneblues wrote: Well he’s managed to get rid of the bonus scheme that KC nearly bankrupted us with, now he’s trying to offload Jones and that fantastic signing Bennett.


I'm not privileged to that information pal but you can hardly bankrupt yourself when you are worth twenty odd million.

Jenkins would not have bankrupted the club.


You don’t have to be privileged it’s in the public domain if you look hard enough.

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09 Jan 2019 21:50 #49 by bluebry
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Bloody hell Munchy I simply can't work out your 'stop at nothing' love for old Curly Chops, granted he did sign some decent players, but he also signed a lot of Clart. Its just a shame he hadn't a Scooby Doo about how to put them together as a team.
Take for instance the starting eleven on Saturday, 8 of them were here under Curle. That team looked a million miles away from some of the tosh from last season, they played with intelligence, speed, thoughtfulness, skill and confidence, and there's the buzz word "CONFIDENCE", and why were they playing with such confidence? I'll tell you the reason Munchy they were playing like that it's because of 'consistency'!!! consistency to play the same team (more or less) week in and week out, consistency to play a system that they were all familiar with, a consistency where they knew the strengths and weaknesses of their team mates.
Unfortunately Curly could never grasp this, and if he had then I'm sure he would still be here now.
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09 Jan 2019 21:56 #50 by munchymagic
Replied by munchymagic on topic Director’s Press Conference - Jan 19

bluebry wrote: Bloody hell Munchy I simply can't work out your 'stop at nothing' love for old Curly Chops, granted he did sign some decent players, but he also signed a lot of Clart. Its just a shame he hadn't a Scooby Doo about how to put them together as a team.
Take for instance the starting eleven on Saturday, 8 of them were here under Curle. That team looked a million miles away from some of the tosh from last season, they played with intelligence, speed, thoughtfulness, skill and confidence, and there's the buzz word "CONFIDENCE", and why were they playing with such confidence? I'll tell you the reason Munchy they were playing like that it's because of 'consistency'!!! consistency to play the same team (more or less) week in and week out, consistency to play a system that they were all familiar with, a consistency where they knew the strengths and weaknesses of their team mates.
Unfortunately Curly could never grasp this, and if he had then I'm sure he would still be here now.


I moved on Bry - we will be two managers on soon.

Elated that Sheridan got a better beat of the drum out of them but what you are failing to grasp is that they weren't Sheridans players, I just cannot understand your hatred for the bloke Bry.

Anyhow, lets se how manager number three can get them performing.

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