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29 Aug 2019 08:17 #751 by Bumble
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Croydonblue wrote: Sorry people it's not difficult. Look at his previous spells at Coventry and Fleetwood where he achieved nothing. Particularly where he took over a top rated side and screwed them up.
History is repeating g itself as it normally does with incompetent managers like him. Last week he wanted an analyst this week he is blaming th refs.
The bloke is useless FFS and combined with Holdsworth what are you hoping for?


I really don't understand that way of thinking. What a manager (or player) does elsewhere is rarely relevant to us as long as they have the basic tools for the job.

Look back over the last 25 years and our two most successful managers were Simpson and Wadsworth. Both were nothing better than mediocre at managing league teams anywhere else.

For a club to be successful, the whole club has to want success, not just to keep going and I think this is going to be a tough period for any manager. On top of that having to bring in so many new players at once, I just don't understand how anyone could expect any consistency for the first few games, it was always going to be a rocky road.

I don't know if Pressley will pull it round. I really hope he does. He wasn't my choice for manager, but he got it, he's working hard to get things right and to me he needs time.

Judging him on his past record is rather like saying Kev Gray was crap cos he was rubbish at Tranmere.
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29 Aug 2019 09:16 #752 by pigeonpete
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Bumble, you cant come on here sprouting common sense. It just isnt done.
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29 Aug 2019 09:24 - 29 Aug 2019 09:43 #753 by Moylesey
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Bumble wrote:

Croydonblue wrote: Sorry people it's not difficult. Look at his previous spells at Coventry and Fleetwood where he achieved nothing. Particularly where he took over a top rated side and screwed them up.
History is repeating g itself as it normally does with incompetent managers like him. Last week he wanted an analyst this week he is blaming th refs.
The bloke is useless FFS and combined with Holdsworth what are you hoping for?


I really don't understand that way of thinking. What a manager (or player) does elsewhere is rarely relevant to us as long as they have the basic tools for the job.

Look back over the last 25 years and our two most successful managers were Simpson and Wadsworth. Both were nothing better than mediocre at managing league teams anywhere else.

For a club to be successful, the whole club has to want success, not just to keep going and I think this is going to be a tough period for any manager. On top of that having to bring in so many new players at once, I just don't understand how anyone could expect any consistency for the first few games, it was always going to be a rocky road.

I don't know if Pressley will pull it round. I really hope he does. He wasn't my choice for manager, but he got it, he's working hard to get things right and to me he needs time.

Judging him on his past record is rather like saying Kev Gray was crap cos he was rubbish at Tranmere.


That's as maybe Bumble but...

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29 Aug 2019 09:45 #754 by Bumble
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Moylesey wrote:

Bumble wrote:

Croydonblue wrote: Sorry people it's not difficult. Look at his previous spells at Coventry and Fleetwood where he achieved nothing. Particularly where he took over a top rated side and screwed them up.
History is repeating g itself as it normally does with incompetent managers like him. Last week he wanted an analyst this week he is blaming th refs.
The bloke is useless FFS and combined with Holdsworth what are you hoping for?


I really don't understand that way of thinking. What a manager (or player) does elsewhere is rarely relevant to us as long as they have the basic tools for the job.

Look back over the last 25 years and our two most successful managers were Simpson and Wadsworth. Both were nothing better than mediocre at managing league teams anywhere else.

For a club to be successful, the whole club has to want success, not just to keep going and I think this is going to be a tough period for any manager. On top of that having to bring in so many new players at once, I just don't understand how anyone could expect any consistency for the first few games, it was always going to be a rocky road.

I don't know if Pressley will pull it round. I really hope he does. He wasn't my choice for manager, but he got it, he's working hard to get things right and to me he needs time.

Judging him on his past record is rather like saying Kev Gray was crap cos he was rubbish at Tranmere.


That's as maybe Bumble but...

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Totally agree the stats are worrying BUT:

Losing the big three players in January killed any hope of play offs, I don't think anyone would deny that. Maybe Pressley could have brought better reinforcements in, but January is a notoriously difficult window when all the prices are much higher than the summer. so he was left with mostly not his team and mostly not the stars of the previous team. In those circumstances I think Sheridan would have struggled had he stayed.

Having brought in a load of players in the summer, many who didn't see much of the preseason, I think it woul be a miracle if they had jelled together by the end of August, some aren't even properly fit yet. He needs time to settle them into a team. The alternative is to sack him, wait at least three weeks for a new manager to be appointed and get some one in to make something of a team he probarbly wouldn't have chosen, with no way of changing personel until January and no money to make the changes anyway. I can't see that working out well.
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29 Aug 2019 09:54 #755 by Flatcap
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I think that the best two performances this season have been in the league cup. Both away from home and against teams from higher leagues.
So it's not all doom and gloom.
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29 Aug 2019 10:24 - 29 Aug 2019 10:27 #756 by lummy8
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We can all have our opinions on why we think SP should have more time, not have more time, play this player or that player or this formation or that formation.

End of the day, like all before him, it is a results business, some supporters prefer a 4-3 exciting defeat rather then a boring 1-0 win, they really do I have spoke to half a dozen!

But...the board, EWM, DH go on results, at the end of the day it is a results business to them, no matter how well we play or how unlucky we may be.

We go to the bottom of the league team Saturday, they are on a bad run, we NEED to take something from it, we SHOULD take something from it.

I like SP, I want him to do well, I believe we will be ok with the players we have plus the standard of the league, but we must start winning games simple as that.

And regarding Rochdale, I thought we were ok against an under strength Rochdale, it turned into a testimonial from half time until McKirdy came on, then we had a bit of a push and their young players panicked, it was a missed chance for me even with the appeal. Brave? not really.
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29 Aug 2019 13:35 #757 by crunchblue
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Piglet_Phoenix wrote: The only person to blame for the size and strength of our midfield yesterday was Pressley himself.

You know Stevenage are going to be a physical team yet you play Slater (whose form has been abysmal) in the hub of it all flanked by Scougall and O'Hare? What else do you think is going to happen when you play three midgets in midfield?



This what’s worrying me at the moment. The above post is from piglet after the Stevenage away defeat in April.

Guess what? New season, new players, yet the same old problems of having a physically weak midfield and a manager seemingly unwilling to change it despite us getting bullied in nearly every away game.

He’s either stubborn or just doesn’t learn from his mistakes. But he needs to start learning, fast.

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29 Aug 2019 14:05 #758 by thetashkentterror
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One day people might stop mentioning Kevin Gray, who is far more of the exception than the rule.

I'd just like Pressley to stop talking about amazing performances every time we get beat.
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29 Aug 2019 14:10 #759 by thetashkentterror
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lummy8 wrote: We can all have our opinions on why we think SP should have more time, not have more time, play this player or that player or this formation or that formation.

End of the day, like all before him, it is a results business, some supporters prefer a 4-3 exciting defeat rather then a boring 1-0 win, they really do I have spoke to half a dozen!

But...the board, EWM, DH go on results, at the end of the day it is a results business to them, no matter how well we play or how unlucky we may be.

We go to the bottom of the league team Saturday, they are on a bad run, we NEED to take something from it, we SHOULD take something from it.

I like SP, I want him to do well, I believe we will be ok with the players we have plus the standard of the league, but we must start winning games simple as that.

And regarding Rochdale, I thought we were ok against an under strength Rochdale, it turned into a testimonial from half time until McKirdy came on, then we had a bit of a push and their young players panicked, it was a missed chance for me even with the appeal. Brave? not really.



Agreed. Be better if we were 'brave' at 0-0, rather than at 2-0 down when the other team have taken their foot off the gas.

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29 Aug 2019 16:29 #760 by Bumble
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thetashkentterror wrote: One day people might stop mentioning Kevin Gray, who is far more of the exception than the rule.

I'd just like Pressley to stop talking about amazing performances every time we get beat.


Maybe a bit lazy of me using the Kev Gray illustration, it's a bit of a cliche, true, which means folk knew what I'm getting at when I used it, but I don't really think such cases are terribly rare.

Look at the way we were told Jabo was finished by Orient fans.

Look at the way our fans offered to drive Paddy Madden to Yeovil, or Nakhi Wells to Bradford City. While not common, neither is it that rare that a players form does differ from club to club, often due to a change of formation or having the right player to work alongside.

My original point stands that neither of our best managers in the last 25 years replicated that level of winning at any other club. So looking at a managers past record, while relevant in terms of professionalism, workrate and ability to deal with fans and press, may not be a form guide standing alone. Surely the state of the club, it's desire to move forward and it's financial position must play a very big part in how well a managers succeeds.
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29 Aug 2019 17:37 #761 by AlbertRoss
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Flatcap wrote: I think that the best two performances this season have been in the league cup. Both away from home and against teams from higher leagues.
So it's not all doom and gloom.



Yes, probably because those teams took us lightly/couldn't be bothered/played weakened sides and allowed us to play.

Conversely, we have come unstuck in League 2 against teams who have got amongst us and exposed our weaknesses.

Bottom line is results count and whatever the theoretical merits of how this squad might develop, the reality is that they are not a good team right now, and they need to start getting results quickly or risk being mired at the bottom, which will severely impair the said development.

Sure, if we listen to the manager and players, there's nowt to worry about, all we need to do is to cut out individual errors and we'll be fine.

That's what we used to hear when we were struggling under the likes of Martin Wilkinson - "we just need to string a run of wins together" etc. The reality was we used to string defeats together.

They're playing some great football, but you've got to be able to grind out results first and foremost, then you can play your football.

Looking naïve, brittle and lightweight right now.

Having said that, I do hope this manager and team can make it work, but, as said above, you get fed up of being told things are really amazing when they're clearly not. Heard that bullsh1t before.
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29 Aug 2019 19:35 #762 by Markovitch
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Let's see how we get on at Scunthorpe. But if we are 24th after that game, we don't have the worst budget in this division, we certainly don't have the worst players so its down to organisation. Platitudes are nice but points are better. If Pressley can't get them there are no shortage of people who can have a go.
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29 Aug 2019 20:41 #763 by Taffy-P
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Saturdays result might be pivotal !!!!!!!

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29 Aug 2019 20:50 #764 by Markovitch
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I think he needs to be given a date and a target ie if we are not out of the bottom6 by 30 September/ 15 October then thank you and good night. If a new manager is coming in he needs time to appraise the squad and work out what is needed before the transfer window. We can't keep making excuses
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07 Sep 2019 18:27 #765 by crunchblue
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I said 3 weeks ago that he needs more time, but that we have to start seeing signs of improvements over the next month.

Have to say I don’t think there’s been improvements so far, if anything the performances are getting worse. The defence isn’t showing any signs of improving, the rate we’re conceding not just goals but clear goal chances is alarming. Exeter could have had 7 goals today.

I’m not in the pressley out stage yet but I’m starting to have doubts. I’m worrying that all his talk over the summer about this new super pressing ‘fittest team in the league’ was all bollocks and what we’re seeing is just more of the same shite under him that got us from automatic promotion challengers to bottom 6 form in the second half of last season. I certainly don’t see a team that is fitter than any of its opponents, in fact often I see the opposite.

Tactically i’m not impressed. His substitutions don’t seem well thought out, it’s just “throw on another striker” then when we still don’t score “throw on another striker”. Sometimes I don’t think players know where they are supposed to be playing. I never feel like we’re going to come back and win a game from behind. I’d love to see a stat about that if anyone can be arsed...

As for the back 4, it could well be the worst back 4 since the one Curle inherited. It’s an unorganised mess that leaks goals left right and centre and if not for a good goalkeeper would probably have leaked double.

As I say, not quite in the wanting him sacked stage but I’m having serious concerns. I’m googling waterproof mattresses in preparation.
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07 Sep 2019 18:44 #766 by Waltero
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Isn't it his back four ?

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07 Sep 2019 18:52 #767 by Prawncrackhead
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I'm in the Pressley out stage now seen them play a few times over the last few weeks and there are some signs we have some players. It looks like they need coaching!
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07 Sep 2019 20:10 #768 by Croydonblue
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Pressley is what he always has been 'useless.
People have been saying give him time FFS HE HAS BEEN HERE WITH TWO SQUADS OF PLAYERS NOW AND PRODUCED ? NOTHING.
He and his mate Holdsworth are full of bulls*it.
You are waiting for what. He has no managerial ability.
TIME TO STOP ATTENDING MATCHES TO FORCE CHANGE.
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07 Sep 2019 20:14 #769 by United63
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That's me after today what a shower of shit that was
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08 Sep 2019 08:38 #770 by Laffy
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Our new manager?

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08 Sep 2019 10:29 - 08 Sep 2019 10:32 #771 by seesaw50
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We're not even 6 weeks in and we're in panic mode because even tho some are never satisfied with performances, we haven't been as low as 19th for seasons.
We have no big characters, all been stripped out....McKirdy excites at times, the rest are bland. Nobody is shouting at fellow players except Carroll yesterday, for the wrong reasons tho. The team is in danger of mimicking the manager who is dour at best.
The key is Gav Skelton imo he needs to step up and get in Pressleys ear
We have some skillful players but you have to wonder if things would have been better if Etuhu had been fit to play from KO

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08 Sep 2019 11:19 - 08 Sep 2019 13:00 #772 by musher441
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No Seesaw, the key to all of this, is the sh1t manager.
I am amazed that anyone is remotely surprised by our start to the season.
This manager has failed everywhere he has been. Why was he suddenly going to succeed here?
What is Skelton going to whisper in Pressley's ear that is going to change anything??
Due to my refusal to give the board my money I've only seen us away from home so I can't comment on home games,but I've been to them all away except Barnsley.
I've seen enough away from home to know his signings are shocking, but his tactics border on the ridiculous.
I've seen nothing in that team to suggest we can finish any higher than the bottom 2.
I predicted all of this in the summer, and forecasted an October sacking for Pressley after a Collins-esque start to the season.
It looks like I might not be far wrong.

It's a good job there's only one relegation place. We might just survive.
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08 Sep 2019 12:21 #773 by seesaw50
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Well it is true his record isn't great but what we saw in pre season, the first game v Crawley to what I saw away at Cheltenham alarm bells are ringing. Bare in mind tho the poor start we had last season under Sheridan ...new manager, new players syndrome but as you say by October if theres no signs we are on the up a decision needs to be taken.
Altho frustrating and disappointing have to keep positive at the mo.

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09 Sep 2019 10:59 #774 by Lakelandterrier
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We were all saying this at the same time last season.

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09 Sep 2019 12:37 #775 by thesilentone
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Although we like to read it, naming under-performing players in the press is the best way to lose the changing room, he already has one foot out of the door. If the crowds drop, the other will very quickly follow.
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09 Sep 2019 12:51 #776 by crunchblue
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Anyone seriously think they’d sack Pressley this early into the season? We’d have to pay his contract up and then shell out for the salary of a new manager.

Unless we’re bottom 2 which may well be the case in a couple of weeks time, I can’t see them even considering giving him the boot.

They ignored the opportunity to get rid for free in the summer after the terrible job he did last season, so sacking him now would make them look really stupid.

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09 Sep 2019 12:55 #777 by crunchblue
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seesaw50 wrote: Bare in mind tho the poor start we had last season under Sheridan ...


Bad start last season under Sheridan?

At this stage last season after 7 games we were 4th on 13 points.
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