Monday, 05 September 2022
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With a new Prime Minister to be announced today (Mon 5th Sept 2022), we’ll start a fresh thread for all the discussion, and also use this one for any other Westminster/Politics related stuff going forward.

The old thread is now locked as Boris and his Government are replaced.

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19 hours ago
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#317355
I’m confused Marko. Aren’t Ukrainian soldiers in what Putin has deemed to be Russian soil already ?
18 hours ago
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#317358
Why are you confused?
18 hours ago
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#317359
That’s the Corallian gas deal announced Marko-we sold it to Shell for £32m

Good deal.You will be using Shetland gas soon unless Nippy tries to stop.
17 hours ago
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#317360
You must be mistaken DB Marko has already said all the Ukrainian soldiers are dead so the Russians are obviously running from regiments of ghosts

If Ukraine gets accepted into NATO tonight, unlikely but not implausible, then we will be officially at war with Russia.

Any of these financial issues will be irrelevant to what’ll come - fingers crossed they don’t.


We're already at war with Russia. Thousands of the soldiers who led the Kharkov counteroffensive are either Poles or US mercenaries. The US has already opened an HQ in Europe with 300 staff to take control of the war. It's now Russia against NATO, the Ukrainians have lost so many soldiers there aren't any left.
7 hours ago
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#317367
You'll see what they do
3 hours ago
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#317368
Carry out missile attacks on residential areas by the looks of it.
Presumably those killed and injured were all Nazis or Ukraine were killing their own again.

Tell me Marko, do you think the recent referendums were fair and should be recognised internationally?
2 hours ago
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#317369
In 8 and a half years Donetsk has had 1 day when it wasn't shelled.

The people in the west think of themselves as ethnic Poles. In an election, Zelinskiy would get 90%+ of the vote, if not 100%. In the east they think of themselves as Russian, the opposite. Only 2 places buck the trend. Odessa; about 30/40% of the population are Jewish, and they identify with Russia. Kiev- like every capital pulls in from around the country. In 2010 it was probably about 60/40 for Russia, now my guess would be 80/20 for Zelinskiy. No one in their right mind in Donetsk s going to vote against Putin, too many people have died, its too late
In 8 and a half years Donetsk has had 1 day when it wasn't shelled.

The people in the west think of themselves as ethnic Poles. In an election, Zelinskiy would get 90%+ of the vote, if not 100%. In the east they think of themselves as Russian, the opposite. Only 2 places buck the trend. Odessa; about 30/40% of the population are Jewish, and they identify with Russia. Kiev- like every capital pulls in from around the country. In 2010 it was probably about 60/40 for Russia, now my guess would be 80/20 for Zelinskiy. No one in their right mind in Donetsk s going to vote against Putin, too many people have died, its too late


So if all those people hadn’t died, folk would vote against Putin?
1 hour ago
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#317371
To be fair the West of Ukraine was Poland until the border shifted west after WWII. You just had to watch the videos of the elderly survivors in Lyman to understand they were in no position to care about a referendum. They just wanted food, warmth and an end to the hostilities. Their lives have been completely destroyed. Putin may not care about retreating now as everything in the occupied territories has been wrecked. The EU is not going to enjoy footing the eventual bill to rebuild Ukraine.
1 hour ago
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#317372
Putin is obviously a true ambassador of the democratic system. He doesn't, however, need to bother ever having leadership elections in his own country, it's a forgone conclusion he'd win with a landslide victory, with any opponents of him suffering unfortunate incidents with novichok, polonium or sudden balance issues whilst opening windows in high rise buildings.
1 hour ago
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#317374
The EU is not going to enjoy footing the eventual bill to rebuild Ukraine.


Russia should pay every penny of it and remain under strict sanctions until they have.
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