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  3. 24-01-2020 15:33
Cobra meeting held to discuss plan of action if it comes to the UK (assuming it hasn't already). This is another consequence of globalisation and mass immigration, people with diseases from all over the world travelling all over the world, what could possibly go wrong?
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Sorry typo was meant to say 7%, but I misheard orfc. You’re right orfc, for once :( but it’s still a very high figure

He was also asked by Kay burley I think her name is on the number of deaths under 60 with no underlying cause. Again Raab didn’t know but it’s 307, lower than the 380 I had.


This explains it much better than orfc Richard. https://lockdownsceptics.org/covid-19-parliamentary-brief/


They basically say what I did, but try to spin it (surprise from a site called lockdownsceptics)

They also do the usual muddling between underlying and contributing causes of death wrt flu, trying to pass off all deaths where flu is mentioned as being solely down to flu - https://fullfact.org/health/flu-covid-deaths/ (really, it's less than 2,000 a year)

"The number of healthy people below the age of 60 that have died is only in the 300s, whilst all those that have died within 28 days of symptom-onset is closer to 37,000. The number that die in a bad flu year (eg. 2017-18) is about 25,000 more than in a good year (e.g. the last two winters)"


What orfc meant to say was: they basically say the same as me but don't leave incidence out of the equation.
  1. 23-09-2020 17:03
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You figured the cows out yet?

The polymerase chain reaction (PCR) swab test is useful (but not perfect) for detecting SARS-CoV-2 virus RNA in symptomatic patients.1 However, problems arise using the test for purposes that disregard symptoms or time of infection—namely, case finding, mass screening, and disease surveillance.

This is because PCR is not a test of infectiousness.


https://www.bmj.com/content/370/bmj.m3699
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You figured the cows out yet?

The polymerase chain reaction (PCR) swab test is useful (but not perfect) for detecting SARS-CoV-2 virus RNA in symptomatic patients.1 However, problems arise using the test for purposes that disregard symptoms or time of infection—namely, case finding, mass screening, and disease surveillance.

This is because PCR is not a test of infectiousness.


https://www.bmj.com/content/370/bmj.m3699


The fact the pcr test can match degraded covid virus as well as whole virus has already been said several times over the last 80 odd pages, prawn. Time to get on the short term memory exercises.
  1. 23-09-2020 22:05
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Mike Yeadon used to work with Sir Paddy at Wellcome Research Labs.(worth following orfc you might learn something)

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1308889807725236224.html
  1. 23-09-2020 23:37
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Mike Yeadon used to work with Sir Paddy at Wellcome Research Labs.(worth following orfc you might learn something)

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1308889807725236224.html


Yes, I've learned someone called Mike Yeadon is a corona sceptic with too much time on his hands and an axe to grind against his old boss now he's retired. :)

https://lockdownsceptics.org/lies-damned-lies-and-health-statistics-the-deadly-danger-of-false-positives/

Just peddling the same old bollocks -

  1. 24-09-2020 09:28
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  1. 24-09-2020 10:16
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Tchoh, he's clearly misunderstood the carrying capacity of the population as a parameter of the exponential function wouldn't you say :) - https://sites.math.northwestern.edu/~mlerma/courses/math214-2-03f/notes/c2-logist.pdf

Though your post is quite useful as it shows a bug where you can't close an expanded picture because the close button goes off the top of the screen (on my monitor at least)
  1. 24-09-2020 10:40
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https://www.cu-fc.com/news/2020/september/robbies-letter-to-pm/

Interesting letter from the Colchester Utd chairman regarding allowing fans into matches.

His closing statement; 'However, just so I understand it when I’m having to lay off even more staff, can someone explain to me again how I can safely sit in a confined aeroplane with 300 other passengers and I can safely eat inside a restaurant or drink inside a pub until 10pm but I can’t safely attend a football match which is predominately outside and has been certificated as safe by a SAG?'
  1. 24-09-2020 12:24
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Tchoh, he's clearly misunderstood the carrying capacity of the population as a parameter of the exponential function wouldn't you say :) - https://sites.math.northwestern.edu/~mlerma/courses/math214-2-03f/notes/c2-logist.pdf

Though your post is quite useful as it shows a bug where you can't close an expanded picture because the close button goes off the top of the screen (on my monitor at least)



It's satire, abit like Vallance's graph is a national joke. Well to most.
  1. 24-09-2020 12:44
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https://www.cu-fc.com/news/2020/september/robbies-letter-to-pm/

Interesting letter from the Colchester Utd chairman regarding allowing fans into matches.

His closing statement; 'However, just so I understand it when I’m having to lay off even more staff, can someone explain to me again how I can safely sit in a confined aeroplane with 300 other passengers and I can safely eat inside a restaurant or drink inside a pub until 10pm but I can’t safely attend a football match which is predominately outside and has been certificated as safe by a SAG?'


orfc will be able to explain it to him ?
  1. 24-09-2020 12:47
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https://www.cu-fc.com/news/2020/september/robbies-letter-to-pm/

Interesting letter from the Colchester Utd chairman regarding allowing fans into matches.

His closing statement; 'However, just so I understand it when I’m having to lay off even more staff, can someone explain to me again how I can safely sit in a confined aeroplane with 300 other passengers and I can safely eat inside a restaurant or drink inside a pub until 10pm but I can’t safely attend a football match which is predominately outside and has been certificated as safe by a SAG?'


orfc will be able to explain it to him ?


I definitely will :-)

Basically you can't sit safely on a plane with 300 other people, but the aviation industry has more wallop than lower league football.

Plus you're looking at ten times as many people per event. Cheltenham races was mostly outside and that went well...
  1. 24-09-2020 13:26
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That self employment Scheme is only 20% now. Fairly pushed the boat out for small businesses there.
  1. 24-09-2020 13:32
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The new scheme is going to be pointless anyway that are struggling. They aren’t going to pay for a third of wages if there’s no work.

Someone, virologist, going on sky news later to prove the test just tests for any coranovirus and not just the one that causes Covid - I’ll watch with interest
  1. 24-09-2020 13:48
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They aren’t wanting the self employed who are really struggling to continue in what they see as a non viable business.

Instead of helping them through the next 6 months they are sending them to the wall. Not a very nice policy.
  1. 24-09-2020 14:01
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We’re slowly becoming a totalitarian state where nearly all aspects of life are controlled by the government.

A bit like the Third Reich! :D
  1. 24-09-2020 14:15
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We’re slowly becoming a totalitarian state where nearly all aspects of life are controlled by the government.

A bit like the Third Reich! :D


Haha set in 2020

  1. 24-09-2020 14:20
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https://www.cu-fc.com/news/2020/september/robbies-letter-to-pm/

Interesting letter from the Colchester Utd chairman regarding allowing fans into matches.

His closing statement; 'However, just so I understand it when I’m having to lay off even more staff, can someone explain to me again how I can safely sit in a confined aeroplane with 300 other passengers and I can safely eat inside a restaurant or drink inside a pub until 10pm but I can’t safely attend a football match which is predominately outside and has been certificated as safe by a SAG?'


orfc will be able to explain it to him ?


I definitely will :-)

Basically you can't sit safely on a plane with 300 other people, but the aviation industry has more wallop than lower league football.

Plus you're looking at ten times as many people per event. Cheltenham races was mostly outside and that went well...


Good god!
  1. 24-09-2020 14:24
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Looks like we are following Spain. They have had just under 1,000 dead in the last 7 days.
  1. 25-09-2020 14:30
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Novavax DNA altering vaccine, no matter what you say that’s what it does, is having stage 3 trials here.

Remember a certain person saying on here it won’t be novavax - it will, follow the money.
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From the ammount of advance orders, it look like Pfizer are winning the race

https://www.euronews.com/2020/08/13/will-europe-win-the-race-to-secure-a-covid-19-vaccine
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Novavax DNA altering vaccine, no matter what you say that’s what it does, is having stage 3 trials here.

Remember a certain person saying on here it won’t be novavax - it will, follow the money.


https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-covid-19-vaccine-modify-idUSKBN22U2BZ

“ Mark Lynas, a visiting fellow at Cornell University’s Alliance for Science group, debunked the idea that a DNA vaccine could genetically modify an organism. Lynas told Reuters that no vaccine can genetically modify human DNA.

“That’s just a myth, one often spread intentionally by anti-vaccination activists to deliberately generate confusion and mistrust,” he said. “Genetic modification would involve the deliberate insertion of foreign DNA into the nucleus of a human cell, and vaccines simply don’t do that. Vaccines work by training the immune system to recognize a pathogen when it attempts to infect the body - this is mostly done by the injection of viral antigens or weakened live viruses that stimulate an immune response through the production of antibodies.”
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What is the evidence of that Mullen ? I am curious as have a pharmaceutical research scientist in the clan so if he says dont touch it i can compare with your research
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It’s been classed as a conspiracy theory and nonsense, but look at all the things that have come true.

Novavax are trialing they mRNA vaccine. There’s evidence to say it’s not going to modify your DNA but there was plenty of stuff released prior to Covid to say they were working on DNA altering vaccine.

Who piece is interesting

https://www.who.int/biologicals/areas/vaccines/dna/en/

Plus read these for a alternative view

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1986720/

Whose to argue against the science that says MRNA won’t alter your DNA and will just inject a piece of the virus DNA into you.

Unfortunately Google/Facebook have blocked all the links suggesting it altered your DNA - stuff on you tube though.
  1. 25-09-2020 18:32
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Richard, what I’ve taken from the WHO link is that what is injected is “ a plasmid containing the DNA sequence encoding the antigen(s) against which an immune response is sought” which seems OK because there’s no indication that it alters human DNA. Unfortunately the second link is impenetrable and too long; obviously written by scientists for scientists and I’m not one. Could you please point me at the part(s) that are alternative views to the WHO piece? Ta.

Also is there anything about Google and Facebook blocking links because I’d find that worrying.
  1. 25-09-2020 18:54
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New types of vaccine will need to be monitored carefully

However, retroviruses like HIV already inject part of their sequence into your genome

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retrovirus

Corona virus isn't a retrovirus though

A lot of the human genome is of viral origin, incorporated in over millions of years
  1. 25-09-2020 19:54
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All the links I had on Facebook about it have been blocked and I can no longer find them on Google, as they remove/put bottom of the list “false information”.

Funny though as a piece of false information I posted on Facebook about vitamin D lowering inflammation was highlighted as false last month by fact checkers but has been proved correct tonight.

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-vitamin-d-reduces-infection-and-impact-of-covid-19-studies-find-12081132?fbclid=IwAR1VV_o4wo7Uq8wsKEONsKmFyb5KMdAZfZbuyqAhnrfuVMe14jPSBJKFY1E

Makes you think eh! And also about HCQ

I’ll try and find the links, they may even be on this thread somewhere. but the jist was the vaccine would follow the process as orfc explains similar to HIV but in a positive way by altering our genome/DNA so it recognises the Coronovirus and the body fights it off and produces no reaction.

Orfc is right though as Coronovirus isn’t a retrovirus, so how it’ll work is passed my knowledge.

However considering another so called conspiracy has come true tonight, vitamin D, it may just be worth looking into.
  1. 25-09-2020 22:40
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For years now PHE have recommended everyone over one year old to take daily Vitamin D supplements.
  1. 25-09-2020 23:08
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But Matt Hancock told us, when questioned at a daily briefing about the benefits of the sun, that vitamin D had no benefit to fighting Covid at all, this was backed up by Chris Whitty. Both have been proved comprehensively wrong tonight so will they apologise - not a chance!

Another tin foil hat thing, but one of the possible side effects of the flu vaccine, not the mist, Is a short reduction in vitamin D - mmmmm

Again don’t take my word for it, look it up.
  1. 25-09-2020 23:17
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Or!
Of course it did!
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8774177/Lockdown-UK-Thousands-excess-deaths-people-stayed-away-hospitals.html

People in care homes were killed off and people were scared to go to hospital - excess deaths.

We have high cases but low deaths now - mmmmm
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