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We will be attending a virtual CUSG Meeting on Mon 3rd Aug.

This is intended to be more of a ‘catch up’ then a regular Meeting so we won’t be taking the usual Questions to it.

Once proper Meetings start up again, we will take any Questions that Users want us to in the normal fashion.

We will provide an update post-Meeting on this Thread,

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No questions, not that you’re taking any, but a well done to the club on their social media during the crisis, I criticise a lot of things I feel they do wrong but during the crisis, it’s only right I praise, they have publicised important numbers, kept us informed a lot of what’s going on and the thoughts behind some decisions, mainly the fans being treat like human beings.

Also the trust for their weekly quizzes, try weekly briefings are still bizarre and don’t say much and for trying to finally fundraise (even if I don’t agree with the destination)

More of the same commitment please, explain and treat the fans as people they will support.
  1. 01-08-2020 17:06
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we won’t be taking the usual Questions to it.


:(

I agree with what Mullen says about keeping people informed. People will like that they are being kept in the loop, even if they don't agree or like the decisions being made.
  1. 01-08-2020 20:03
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When is the update being posted?
  1. 05-08-2020 13:48
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At the weekend I think...
  1. 05-08-2020 13:52
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It should have been set to auto publish!
  1. 05-08-2020 14:03
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Obviously not the clubs fault at all but it doesn’t sound much fun at all watching at the ground under these restrictions.

Watching at home without a mask in comfort or at the ground in a mask and have the stewards have a go if you’re not wearing a mast (legitimate reason) and having to explain to everyone why you can’t if you’re exempt and stopping people being more than 1 meter apart.

Not for me at the moment, obviously there’s those that’ll go regardless and fair play to them but it’s not going to be anywhere near the experience of normality.
  1. 08-08-2020 14:17
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If it helps to get as many fans as possible back by wearing a mask it is a no brainer for me . If you have to wear a mask to go then thats that .
I am asthmatic and struggle with them at times so i will have to suck it up and stay away if it does . No problem with that tbh
  1. 08-08-2020 14:53
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Mask wearing wasn’t what I was getting at really, it’s up to you what you feel comfortable doing and having a mask only section should help with issues and those exempt will have to sit somewhere else.

It’s too much of a hassle though, it’s not a pleasant experience wearing a mask and what a bizzare thing it’ll be trying to chant with those on.

Each to their own though.

As for disability issues, I could be here all day with some of the issues that could occur. I’ve a feeling most disabled people won’t bother, especially those needing carers.

Society has gone weird and watching football, under these restrictions is going to be utterly bizzare.
  1. 08-08-2020 15:29
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I don’t think a mask is needed outside.
  1. 08-08-2020 15:32
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Definitely be different this season . But better being wierd than not happening i suppose. As for masks anything could happen. You are not allowed in motorsport venues at all . And Nicola Sturgeon said yesterday that the Aberdeen players who went to the pub broke the rules that the Scottish government and The Football authorities agreed to allow football to restart. So i guess it will be the same here you can do it if you do x, y and z or its not happening.
The masks could be the same as no music in pubs so you dont have to get close to talk above the noise .
Either way we will have to accept it or not go i guess . Short term pain for long term gain
  1. 08-08-2020 15:49
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The club may take your temperature and if it’s too high be refused entry?

Firstly, have there enough qualified people to take a temperature?

There’s a million and one other things that can cause a high temperature, myself personally is high quite a lot of the time with the illnesses I have. I understand we are in a weird time but if you’re refused on that condition can it be guaranteed that you’ll be reimbursed or have you lost your money on condition of the code of conduct.
  1. 08-08-2020 15:58
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What if people have travelled a good distance only to be refused entry. Do they get reimbursed for travel expenses?
  1. 08-08-2020 16:44
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What they certainly need to do is have a one season exemption on holding season ticket seats.

If someone has a certain seat in a stand they have had for 40 years they shouldn't lose it forever because they aren't able to attend this season under the current restrictions.
  1. 08-08-2020 17:09
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CCU,
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A Leicester-based company had been selected to do the CUFC faces, following consultation between CUOSC and the club
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If its Fusion Sports, recommend they think again. They did the Leeds ones and are a shower of shit.
  1. 08-08-2020 17:10
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The club shouldn’t be liable for travel expenses but should reimburse your ticket price if refused entry due to temperature.

Could you imagine travelling down to Plymouth for 6 hours to be refused entry because your temperature is .1 too high.
  1. 08-08-2020 17:20
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I think away fans might be banned.
  1. 08-08-2020 17:59
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The rules to me look common sense really however I find the one about celebrating, singing and shouting a bit unclear. At moments of a goal being scored most people can’t help themselves roar, jump up and down, hug people near bye and so on it natural instinct. Are we going to be chucked out for natural behaviour?
  1. 08-08-2020 19:23
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CCU,
Re Face in the crowd
A Leicester-based company had been selected to do the CUFC faces, following consultation between CUOSC and the club
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If its Fusion Sports, recommend they think again. They did the Leeds ones and are a shower of shit.


Sod all to do with me, speak to CUOSC... :D
  1. 08-08-2020 19:50
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I think away fans might be banned.


No definitive decision as yet, EFL seem to be leaving it to Clubs for now, though this may change after AGM in a couple of weeks.

A blanket ban would make sense in the circumstances, and if from above, absolves the Club’s from any blame etc.

Yes, it’s harsh on those who go every Away game, but rather a ban and the Season happen surely?
  1. 08-08-2020 19:54
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Just a couple of points.

For those that struggle with masks would they be allowed to wear visors instead?

I know someone who had the virus and even struggled to get out of bed to go to the toilet. At no time did they have a temperature, even though they frequently tested for one. So it's not always the case if you don't have a high temperature that you don't have the virus.
  1. 08-08-2020 23:08
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I’ll ask the Q about visors and let you know the response...
  1. 09-08-2020 11:47
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Flatcap, from the Club:

Any genuine exemptions (Medical grounds for example) would be allowed inside the Ground.

Also if the Shield is one that covers the face then this too would be ok.

The Club are going to use common sense regarding the issue,
  1. 09-08-2020 12:29
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The rules to me look common sense really however I find the one about celebrating, singing and shouting a bit unclear. At moments of a goal being scored most people can’t help themselves roar, jump up and down, hug people near bye and so on it natural instinct. Are we going to be chucked out for natural behaviour?


Just introduce VAR at all levels and that will suck all forms of celebrating a goal right out of the game until you get a delayed YAY after 3 minutes or so.
  1. 09-08-2020 16:25
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The rules to me look common sense really however I find the one about celebrating, singing and shouting a bit unclear. At moments of a goal being scored most people can’t help themselves roar, jump up and down, hug people near bye and so on it natural instinct. Are we going to be chucked out for natural behaviour?


I hope it’s only people from your household your hugging virus or no virus ;)
  1. 09-08-2020 18:31
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Flatcap, from the Club:

Any genuine exemptions (Medical grounds for example) would be allowed inside the Ground.

Also if the Shield is one that covers the face then this too would be ok.

The Club are going to use common sense regarding the issue,


How about a snood?
  1. 09-08-2020 18:58
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I'm happy to wear a face covering in enclosed areas, but I'm totally unhappy at wearing a face covering for the 90+ minutes of a football match when I'm sitting or standing in an open stand or terracing when I'm not obliged to wear a mask when I'm standing in the street or sitting in my garden.

CUSG claim to represent the fans, but they do not represent me.. Have they canvassed their members' views before arriving at this 'masks at all costs' position?

Will radio commentators in the press box be exempt from mask wearing? And if so do they these radio presenters pose a lesser risk of passing on covid 19 than I do?
  1. 10-08-2020 00:02
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Difference is that the street is a public place and your garden is your own property.

Brunton Park is private property and wether we like it or not, the Club can make their own rules regarding masks - In time, it could well end up being a Govt condition anyways?

The Club asked the Reps present for their immediate opinions, and there was good debate on it. Nobody claimed to be the voice of the fanbase either.

I’d be very surprised if they don’t keep an eye on this Thread for exactly the reason you say, as many different viewpoints as possible - In fact I’ll forward the the Thread to Nigel Clibbens myself for his attention!
  1. 10-08-2020 19:09
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I'd like to know the answer to the temperature one, i think its quite important to know you'll be reimbursed. Personally think the club should forget about doing that as it'll open a whole can of worms.

Never did i think i'd ever be commenting on the club doing temperature checks to allow entry (again not the clubs fault) but its complete madness.
  1. 10-08-2020 20:36
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As for reimbursement that is interesting as its the fans problem rather than the clubs . No different to being unable to go due to a delhi belly
  1. 10-08-2020 20:48
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If you buy a ticket or have a season ticket and you can’t attend because your Ill then It’s bad luck - I’m not sure on the rules on what time you can get a refund on tickets currently.

But if you have a temperature but feel fine, you maybe have chlamydia or an infected toe and are refused entry the club should give you your money back - my opinion.
  1. 10-08-2020 21:02
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You can usually ‘exchange’ up to 3 games on a Season Ticket - Games you can’t attend so they’ll give you another ticket for a later game to bring someone along to. The cut off for this was usually close of play on Friday Afternoon. It’s a handy scheme as plenty folk will miss the occasional game for many different reasons.

This scheme is on hold for the 20/21 Season for fairly obvious reasons!
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If you have a high temperature you wont get in the care home to visit regardless of what it is . Likewise some F1 crew couldnt get in the paddock the other week with high temperatures after sitting in the sun the other week so they went and drank water etc to cool down .
The thing is if thats the rule then you have to live with it . You dont have to like it though. At the end of the day the club are trying to protect everyone in the ground and if one has to be turned away then so be it . I am pretty sure it will be in black and white to clear tbings up before the end of the month .
Then again it could all be scrapped by then.
On subject of motorsport you cant attend that at all and there is more space at Donnington for say 10000 folk than 4000 in BP .
Its a strange world we live in atm .
Its a Carlisle United kind of year . Unpredictable!!!
  1. 10-08-2020 22:22
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If you buy a ticket or have a season ticket and you can’t attend because your Ill then It’s bad luck - I’m not sure on the rules on what time you can get a refund on tickets currently.

But if you have a temperature but feel fine, you maybe have chlamydia or an infected toe and are refused entry the club should give you your money back - my opinion.



I've got chlamydia AND an infected toe, which will teach me to stick it in there again.
  1. 10-08-2020 23:32
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I'm not sure a mask only section is a good idea. Admittedly this is an unqualified non medical expert opinion but this is what I think. Masks mainly protect other people from being infected by the person wearing it, but they do also provide the person wearing it with a small amount of protection against infection compared to if they had not worn it. If you have lots of people not wearing masks all grouped together then if one of them are infected, the virus could spread quite easily and then you've potentially got a cluster of cases. Whereas if you have one person not wearing a mask surrounded by people who are wearing one, the virus is statistically less likely to spread as much because everyone within range of the infected persons respiratory droplets each has a slightly lower chance of being infected thanks to their mask. On this issue I find myself agreeing with Jim.

They are saying that genuine exemptions will be allowed. How do we determine what is and isn't a genuine exemption, are we to ask any fan not wearing a mask to provide some kind of proof like a letter from their doctor?
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If you're found with a temperature you could ask for a second opinion. They'll have a spare room where Clibbens will be waiting with his rubber glove 'Bend over Sir/Madam' I'm just going to insert this probe!
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