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  3. 18-04-2021 17:06
Rumours that six English Clubs will be unveiled as part of a proposed European Super League, possibly as early as this evening.

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Thoughts?

Personally I’d let them go. Expel the Clubs from all FA Competitions permanently and ban the Players from ever playing International football again too.

Oh, and would have no intention of subscribing to whoever broadcast it either...
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And Manchester City 2nd
  1. 20-04-2021 19:08
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And Barcelona the 3rd

It’s finished
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And Athletico

They've shat it, the slaaaaaaaaaags
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Ed Woodward quits as Man Utd chairman, it's all fell to bits, dear me
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Apparently Real Madrid will never be allowed back in any UEFA competition while Perez is the president.
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Woodward’s gone and so has the ceo of Juventus.

Top clubs are in the shit financially by over spending and the shits hit the fan and the super league was probably a way out.

Going to be interesting how this plays out. Supposedly one of the 12s owners is leaving straight away and putting the club up for sale.
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Not a chance this is the last of it...
  1. 20-04-2021 21:29
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Back down to earth with a bump. Maybe something good will come out of this, the likes of paying out millions for players and the obscene wages being paid, time for a bit of realism.
Football NHS etc being targeted. Instead of trying to mirror the warped american way, we need to tell them where to go and take back control of our country as brexiteers would say.
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Back down to earth with a bump. Maybe something good will come out of this, the likes of paying out millions for players and the obscene wages being paid, time for a bit of realism.
Football NHS etc being targeted. Instead of trying to mirror the warped american way, we need to tell them where to go and take back control of our country as brexiteers would say.


The American way isn’t warped in terms of the NFL it’s just a totally different model to what we have and would never work over here. In fact the draft system makes it a lot fairer and give all of those involved a better chance of winning. What they don’t have is our pyramid.
  1. 20-04-2021 21:41
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We have to think this now as an opportunity than a setback.

Carlisle budget for the football dept for one year is 1 million.

Pogba is asking for 1 million for two weeks to sit on the bench.

We discovered and prepared Henderson as a goalkeeper. Where is he now.

Vardy started in non league, where is he now.

Now is the time to look through a new lens of the football pryamid. both top down and bottom up.

Wages are out of control and we need a new structure so we have sustainability. I think a wage cap at div 1 and div 2 is a start.

Lets see what happens.
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What we have witnessed is a clash of cultures, rich whales v mr average in a environment where mr average wins every time.

Now, back to the drawing board, and the reality that the business model is broken.

We should now see an Exodus of fat cats from our Clubs as they realise doors are well and truly closed, however who replaces them ?
  1. 21-04-2021 09:01
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Wage cap is definitely the way forward John Barnes was on this morning saying the same.
Same goes for transfer fees.
Maybe time to ditch greedy agents and for players to act like adults and sort out their own deals. Players should be in a level field when it comes to how much they earn.
  1. 21-04-2021 09:09
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According to Juventus, the deal collapsed because Boris thought it would undermine Brexit.

Nothing to do with fans then!
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Wage cap is definitely the way forward John Barnes was on this morning saying the same.
Same goes for transfer fees.
Maybe time to ditch greedy agents and for players to act like adults and sort out their own deals. Players should be in a level field when it comes to how much they earn.


Totally agree re agents. Did you see what Haalands agent was supposedly demanding to secure his services? £20 million each for himself and the players father although could have been a load of balls but nowt would surprise me with Raola.
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Barnes was the first £2m pa salary player who then went bankrupt.Not the best position to start
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What we have witnessed is a clash of cultures, rich whales v mr average in a environment where mr average wins every time.

Now, back to the drawing board, and the reality that the business model is broken.

We should now see an Exodus of fat cats from our Clubs as they realise doors are well and truly closed, however who replaces them ?


We watched while they siphoned off electricity companies, water companies, healthcare but suddenly it's a national emergency when it Tottenham? Wee bit late to the game SO
  1. 21-04-2021 17:53
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What we have witnessed is a clash of cultures, rich whales v mr average in a environment where mr average wins every time.

Now, back to the drawing board, and the reality that the business model is broken.

We should now see an Exodus of fat cats from our Clubs as they realise doors are well and truly closed, however who replaces them ?


We watched while they siphoned off electricity companies, water companies, healthcare but suddenly it's a national emergency when it Tottenham? Wee bit late to the game SO


What's up Lad, did you miss out on Maggies shares bonanza ?

The Post Office is just about to give us all a whacking bonus as well, happy days.
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I hate the idea of a salary cap.

Although I do agree that if the club chairman wants to splash the cash then they should be able to - but it has to be underwritten by them personally and to prove that they have the funds (currently) to fund the players - I say currently as circumstances out of people's control do happen.

No more rogue owners destroying clubs.

I am still shocked that Jenkins piled on 2m of debt by giving Curle money that the club didn't have - then had the cheek to ask EWM for the money that Jenkins gave to Curle - it was Jenkins who sanctioned this so the buck stops with him and the debt is his through mismanagement of his role at the club.

Basically Jenkins has the money to pay his debt off but will not do it - for all those who think the sun shines out of his backside he certainly put the club in a perilous situation that only Branthwaite and Henderson rescued.
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What we have witnessed is a clash of cultures, rich whales v mr average in a environment where mr average wins every time.

Now, back to the drawing board, and the reality that the business model is broken.

We should now see an Exodus of fat cats from our Clubs as they realise doors are well and truly closed, however who replaces them ?


We watched while they siphoned off electricity companies, water companies, healthcare but suddenly it's a national emergency when it Tottenham? Wee bit late to the game SO


What's up Lad, did you miss out on Maggies shares bonanza ?

The Post Office is just about to give us all a whacking bonus as well, happy days.



I think the Post Office might have a large compensation bill to pay after the sub postmasters scandal.
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Aye it’ll be three quid a stamp shortly! :D
  1. 24-04-2021 07:35
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What we have witnessed is a clash of cultures, rich whales v mr average in a environment where mr average wins every time.

Now, back to the drawing board, and the reality that the business model is broken.

We should now see an Exodus of fat cats from our Clubs as they realise doors are well and truly closed, however who replaces them ?


We watched while they siphoned off electricity companies, water companies, healthcare but suddenly it's a national emergency when it Tottenham? Wee bit late to the game SO


What's up Lad, did you miss out on Maggies shares bonanza ?

The Post Office is just about to give us all a whacking bonus as well, happy days.



I think the Post Office might have a large compensation bill to pay after the sub postmasters scandal.


Should have said the Royal Mail, not the Post Office (wanxxrs) they should immediately pay those people £1.0m each now, and the balance after the compo claim.
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Sounds like there may be a few legal issues ahead... talk of ‘binding contracts’ having already been signed by the 12
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  1. 24-04-2021 21:24
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Until football works out it needs to address player and agent demands it will always have this.

You think the premiership constantly almost creating a closed shop of money would have been enough, but then players needed more money, then you’d hope the ‘champions league’ adding anyone else who seemed big enough to enter regardless of whether champions or not would be enough........but then players needed more money.

Of course the sudden massive increase on foreign tv money being milked by the top flight would be enough......but players needed more money.

The. We had that ridiculous domestic tv deal so off the scale the gap from top flight to rest income wise was enormous, surely that would be enough.........but players again needed more money.

The issue has always been that when incomes rise rather than it finally making clubs profitable the money goes on higher and higher wages. When once £100,000 a year was a good wage, now £100,000 a week seems laughable.


The issue now is income is hitting its limits they will never get domestic tv rights at those levels again, doubt any more sponsorship or foreign tv money can get higher, they have little more they can milk off the lower leagues anymore.......yet players still need more money with talk soon of £1,0000,000 a week players.

Of course the big clubs will want yet more money, they need it rather than clubs address the real issues of finally halting player wage demands than constantly appeasing it.

At least it gave a knock to them other 12-14 odd top flight clubs who were happy to screw lower leagues for their needs thinking themselves more important who suddenly realise the big clubs in their league will do exactly the same to them
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The rumour is the tv rights auction is being cancelled due to a worry that the usual demand has evaporated, meaning a rollover of the existing arrangements.The tide certainly feels like is turned
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I would have thought demand would have been on the upward curve during the pandemic?

Especially due to the fact they've been showing games at all times on all days. It's been a great excuse for the TV companies to get their way.

The septic in me thinks the ESL stuff was a smokescreen so they could push the Champions League reforms through with zero opposition.

You have:

- More games / more TV games midweek
- Increased sponsorship / TV revenue
- Less chance of smaller clubs going through (more of a league format than a cup format). Single game upsets will count for less.
- Teams who qualify on some co-efficient rating malarky - which means if a Liverpool or Real Madrid finish outside their national qualifying zone they'll be invited in anyway.

All of that means there's less of a level playing field in European competition, but because it's not the ESL everyone is ok with it.

Funny how it was announced in the background while the furor with the ESL was breaking out everywhere.

Football fans have been played by UEFA and the cartel of "big" clubs, you are all bitches.
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The rumour is the tv rights auction is being cancelled due to a worry that the usual demand has evaporated, meaning a rollover of the existing arrangements.The tide certainly feels like is turned


Yep - And isn’t that funny considering we’ve been locked up and watched nothing but TV.

The damage the big 6 have done will be difficult to repair. People are seeing the sport for the greed it is.
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If it's true about the tv rights auction, could this be more to do with Ifollow? For the past few months, us "legacy" fans can actually choose to watch OUR team, not just the overhyped Premier League and get their football fix from that, and also in tough times when unemployment rises and incomes shrink, one of the first things to go is SKY.
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Premier League scrambles to avoid TV rights crash

Headline in Telegraph
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Several problems/opportunities remain. Nobody wants to watch games like Burnley v Palace. Interest in Asia in the European big clubs and the Premier League is still rocketing as you have young populations, a gambling culture and very few home-grown world class players. The EFL depends for its survival on annual handouts from the Premier League.

It's easy to see why the ESL was thought to be the logical solution with cash smoothing any problems. Once Covid is over I can see demands for the big clubs to be allowed to play a new summer tournament ever other year in Asia with China hosting most of the matches. They'll probably manage to get the proposal over the line as well without severe repercussions.
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"Executives at clubs involved in the failed European Super League have been forced to resign from advisory roles at the Premier League.

The move is a consequence of the so-called 'big six' teams attempting to set up a league which drew widespread criticism before it fell apart.

The 14 other Premier League clubs felt betrayed by the move and demanded that executives involved, including Manchester United's Ed Woodward, Liverpool's Tom Werner and Manchester City's Ferran Soriano, step down."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/56931186
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Easy to feel betrayed and feel self righteous when you weren't invited. I wonder how many of them would have gone? Dodged a bullet I think.
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Fined 20 million between them,that'll teach them eh.
what a joke should each had a 20 point deduction as well.
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Dam! Thought it was a new biscuit coming out.
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When I saw the headline , I thought it was £20m each!
There was lots of worthy comments from fans of these clubs about how they were ashamed and hoped their clubs were suitably punished.
People fairly got over it quick.
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A massive deterrent for them trying again. Most of them will make that per week televising to Asia.

The authorities have completely bottled it.
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