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What do we think, will he be the subject of a bid in January?

If so whats he worth, what would he go for?

I'll start

1. Yes
2. Worth - 1m
3. Sell 250k with sell on clauses
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Interesting Beech saying he wants to meet JBs parents....to persuade him to stay another year hopefully
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  1. 12-12-2019 15:24
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Arsenal and Everton confirmed to be watching him now in addition to those mentioned. It would almost be disappointing if he goes for *only* the rumoured £1m figure that has been mentioned in a few places...

Looking certain he'll go in January so those negotiating any deal really need to earn their money here.


Have you got a link confirming Arsenal and Everton are watching him please pedals.
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Arsenal and Everton confirmed to be watching him now in addition to those mentioned. It would almost be disappointing if he goes for *only* the rumoured £1m figure that has been mentioned in a few places...

Looking certain he'll go in January so those negotiating any deal really need to earn their money here.


Have you got a link confirming Arsenal and Everton are watching him please pedals.


Might have been JP on the radio that mentioned Arsenal.
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Is it possible to have a sell on clause of a sell on clause?

Eg Carlisle sell to Stoke for £1m
Stoke sell to Villa for £5m and we get 20%
Villa sell to Everton for £20m - Stoke get 20% (£4m) then we get 20% of that £4m (£800k).

No reason why it can't be done.
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Pretty sure that how sell-on clauses work anyway, the money trickles down after every future sell-on.
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''What''...
  1. 13-12-2019 13:49
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Deal supposedly agreed according to radio Cumbria.
  1. 26-12-2019 15:15
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I’m going for
Deal done = Yes
Club = Everton
Fee = undisclosed

Surprised he’s playing today though
  1. 26-12-2019 15:28
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Why have they agreed a deal already?

We should have had a 1 month open bidding war!
  1. 26-12-2019 15:43
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Do we really need to be selling our best defender mid season when we’re at serious risk of relegation from the football league?

He still has 1 or 2 years after this on his contract so why not keep till the summer to help us stay up, then sell in the summer?
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Any deal should have him loaned back to us hopefully
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Because the board will have accepted the first offer to come in. Desperate, predictable and lacking nous.
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I’m going for
Deal done = Yes
Club = Everton
Fee = undisclosed

Surprised he’s playing today though


There’s a whisper going around that JB was down with Everton for a few days prior to missing the Colchester game...
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It will have to be a big fee, and some of it will need put in to strengthening the squad because weakening the defence of a team that don’t score any goals is a recipe for relegation.
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£750k plus add ons is the RC rumour
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£750k plus add ons is the RC rumour


If that is the case then I would continue to laugh at Everton until they stuck another million onto the initial fee - why not as we hold all the cards?
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£750k plus add ons is the RC rumour


I’m speechless
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......bit not surprised though eh. We must be the worst negotiatinf club in the land on transfer fees.

Still haggle like it's the late 80's where the boardroom is stuck.
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BBC Cumbria say the deal with Everton includes a loan back.

I’m pleased about the loan back, but I just think 750k (if that fee is right) is a lot lower than what I was expecting.
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Do we really need to be selling our best defender mid season when we’re at serious risk of relegation from the football league?

He still has 1 or 2 years after this on his contract so why not keep till the summer to help us stay up, then sell in the summer?


If we had owners who ( +Day) had a bit of ambition then we wouldn't need to sell.
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Let’s be honest 750k is hardly surprising. We should demand a very sizeable sell on percentage, 30% or so then it wouldn’t be a terrible deal. Unfortunately, the three amigos are probably looking very short term
  1. 26-12-2019 19:45
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If it was £750k then DH should quit considering we were supposedly saying a minimum of £2m...
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The saddest thing for me is that what ever the fee would be will just mean the CLUBKILLERS will be with us that much longer.
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I've no idea what the figure is but I'd much rather get £750k now with say a 20% sell-on clause than £2m now and nothing later on. Think longer term. Everton sold John Stones for £50m after taking him from the Football League. Don't know how good Branthwaite will be but a few good performances as a 20 year old in their first team and the potential income is enormous...
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Surely 750k isn't the highest bid in a bidding war?

Yes we want the add ons as well but the initial fee is paltry and if this is a done deal then whoever made the decision should walk.

Wasn't Holdsworth brought in to save us money? All we have seen so far is poor management from all behind the scenes that has cost us money if anything.
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Let’s be honest 750k is hardly surprising. We should demand a very sizeable sell on percentage, 30% or so then it wouldn’t be a terrible deal. Unfortunately, the three amigos are probably looking very short term


Why would they be selling on anytime soon...if they are paying £750k he needs to be playing.....somewhere ....a loan back would be ideal for us and the player... could be years before he'll get into Everton's team
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Devils advocate - if the money from Henderson, McCarron, Galloway and likely Cosgrove kick back plus this proposed £750k for Branthwaite meant the current owners moved aside we’d not be interested in trying to hold out for more.

Unlikely - I know. But it’s Christmas. Miracles happen at Christmas.
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Devils advocate - if the money from Henderson, McCarron, Galloway and likely Cosgrove kick back plus this proposed £750k for Branthwaite meant the current owners moved aside we’d not be interested in trying to hold out for more.

Unlikely - I know. But it’s Christmas. Miracles happen at Christmas.
was thinking the same(glass being half full)
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I've no idea what the figure is but I'd much rather get £750k now with say a 20% sell-on clause than £2m now and nothing later on. Think longer term. Everton sold John Stones for £50m after taking him from the Football League. Don't know how good Branthwaite will be but a few good performances as a 20 year old in their first team and the potential income is enormous...


I disagree. Let's take one example, Peter Beardsley. it was obvious that he was a good player after just a few games, but we didn't sell him immediately and he got even better. Plus we as Carlisle fans got the opportunity to enjoy his football before he eventually moved on.

All this 'sell on' stuff assumes that the player will improve and importantly will get a chance to play in the first team at his new club. If Everton are in need of a centre half would they throw on Branthwaite ? It's unlikely. There more likely to sign an experienced South American or a European for a few million quid, rather than risk playing a teenager. English prodigy centre halves in their teens are a rarity. There have been some, Stones as you mention and John Terry come to mind, but they are exception rather than the rule.
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Now I really hope I’m wrong but I suspect Jarrad leaving for that fee is the end for this club....


Do I think we can stay up without him ? No... (He’s the only one of the over paid premadonas that talks) best player at the club by a country mile.

750k for our leauge status is a disgrace.

750k for him (look at the ampadu fee) fans should be protesting for him and EWm out
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Now I really hope I’m wrong but I suspect Jarrad leaving for that fee is the end for this club....


Do I think we can stay up without him ? No... (He’s the only one of the over paid premadonas that talks) best player at the club by a country mile.

750k for our leauge status is a disgrace.

750k for him (look at the ampadu fee) fans should be protesting for him and EWm out


By him I mean dodgy Dave Holdsworth
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I think, on balance, £750K with sell-on, is a good deal.
Just don't see him breaking through in a prem team when he has no prem academy training. He is going to be playing for Everton u-18s.
Hate to say it, but all young kids need 50+ games experience behind them before making a big move.
Hope I'm wrong.
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Having no Premier League academy training might be a plus I would think.
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Having no Premier League academy training might be a plus I would think.

Not sure of that Nobby. The prem and League two are like different sports to be honest. Think that is why some of the snowflakes from the prem and champ struggle with the physical game.
Nothing is surer than League 1 and 2 will end up the same way. We've already see it with teams trying to play out from the back
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If I had a son who was a decent player I would advise him to get at least a couple of seasons at this level to get a good grounding in the rough and tumble of the game playing real football and not signing for one of the big clubs to get buried in their U23 side then most likely being ditched a few years down the line.
From the clubs point of view it would give them a chance of getting a much bigger fee and allow the club to benefit from their ability.
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The deal that’s rumoured isn’t that bad for Carlisle

Its a good deal for Jarred just think of young Dixon a season out with injuries opportunities don’t come along like this every day

You have to give Elvis a bit of credit as he got him signed up
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Yesterday was the first time I've seen Branthwaite live and have to say he didn't disappoint.

Calm on the ball, excellent positioning, quick, strong and a decent distribution.

For a boy of 17 he is a huge talent.

1 million now plus 25% sell on is a minimum.

As others have said, he could be a 10 million pound player in 3 years.
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The deal will be a quick cash in , They would have offered a big Lump up front so would, That probably why its lower as we need cash quick.
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If budget have been cut , We've mccarron money to come in and it's right that the loan facility hasn't got any bigger in while , then this deal would be awful as for once we aren't completely desperate for the cash .
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this is best young player we have produced .a 17yr big lad to me a bit of class already.dont just sell him for first bid that comes in .lets have a bidding war .might not find a kid like this in fcr. wake up board .
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I heard the talk on radio Cumbria on the way back from Brunton Park and as folk are saying they quoted 750K with add ons/ sell on etc, also said it was Everton & we would loan him back. They were going to mention it to Beech in the post match interview later ( i didn't hear the interview, so dont know if the question was asked)

I was told by a die hard supporter last night that Jarrad & and his mam & dad (along with his agent Reeves) met with Everton officials & that is why he didnt play at Colchester. In my ooinion if we are only getting 750K then a decent sell on is a must AND a loan back to us too.


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£750k is an absolute snip from Everton’s point of view.

From Branthwaites point of view he’ll be going from probably £400 a week to £4000. Hard to turn down!
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£750k is an absolute snip from Everton’s point of view.

From Branthwaites point of view he’ll be going from probably £400 a week to £4000. Hard to turn down!

Got told the (alledged) McCarron figures yesterday, and they are 5 times what Carlisle offered him, so the proportions are probably right, but if the Carlisle offer value was right can't see Branthwaite being on £400 a week.
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To be honest ,if you bought a young player like Brantwaite you would want him playing with players that are going to bring him on.I wouldn't want him in a poor team at the bottom of league 2 all season.Will be very surprised if he is loaned back to us.
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The thing is though Seabird if its true that there were a lot of interest in him and Everton wanted him, but we said if you take him its on condition that he stays here till end of the season would Everton pull out of the deal ?

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£750k is pitiful when you have so many big, wealthy clubs interested.
Rangers paid us £600k for Paul Reid and that was 20 years ago - I don’t recall anything like the same level of interest in him.
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A loan-back would be by far our best option, bearing in mind our need to be able to afford a replacement. Just whose £750k is is?

http://boards.footymad.net/showthread.php?t=38255597
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£750k is an absolute snip from Everton’s point of view.

From Branthwaites point of view he’ll be going from probably £400 a week to £4000. Hard to turn down!

Got told the (alledged) McCarron figures yesterday, and they are 5 times what Carlisle offered him, so the proportions are probably right, but if the Carlisle offer value was right can't see Branthwaite being on £400 a week.

Less than £400 from what I've heard , From his family members.
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£750k is pitiful when you have so many big, wealthy clubs interested.
Rangers paid us £600k for Paul Reid and that was 20 years ago - I don’t recall anything like the same level of interest in him.
that's because the current board still work on the numbers they were using 20 years ago. They probably still think Alan Sheerer is still playing and still the world's most expensive Footballer
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