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  3. 20-03-2017 12:23
Looks like they have made a loan to the 1921 company-registered at Companies House.
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Toad Of Toad Hall?
  1. 30-03-2017 18:46
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Sorry for the stupidity, but what is TOTH after Nixons' name.


TOTH actually isn't TOAD OF TOAD HALL it's a set of words we use at home for him. i will be happy to reveal it when we celibrate his leaving, whenever that may be. In the mean time I laugh out loud at the picture. Very funny and I do see the likeness too!
  1. 30-03-2017 18:47
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I think of Nixon as being Wormtongue, whispering poison into the ear of the aging King Theoden-Jenkins.
  1. 30-03-2017 19:09
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Basically, has Phillip Day not just bought Brunton Park?


No more so than the mortgage company has bought your house.


One big difference though Flatcap. I intend paying my loan back and have a structured repayment scheme in place.
  1. 30-03-2017 20:57
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Phillip Day is not interested in buying the club

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  1. 30-03-2017 22:23
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How do you know? Yet another "who knows something but wont say how he knows" There is so much bullshit flying around about this and as usual [censored] all from the club to either confirm or deny any of it!
  1. 30-03-2017 22:28
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hopefully the new incumbents will have the balls to do a Bradford, up to a point. with the expected upsurge in attendance once the news is official, they should take the bull by the horns and slash ST prices. never mind early bird and renewal bonuses, a simple £200 would show intent and help remove the feeling of contempt towards the fans that has hung over the place for years.

I believe that when Nixon was asked why we don't do as Bradford do and have £149 ST, he replied 'only clubs desperate for money do that'.
aye, that desperate they only get 20,000 at home games.
  1. 30-03-2017 22:31
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But speaking to our sister paper The Cumberland News in 2010 the businessman, who grew up in Greater Manchester, played down the suggestion he would ever like to own the Blues.

He said: “It’s not my intention in any way, shape or form to get involved in owning a club.

“But I’ll continue to help in any way I can.”
  1. 30-03-2017 22:32
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How do you know? Yet another "who knows something but wont say how he knows" There is so much bullshit flying around about this and as usual [censored] all from the club to either confirm or deny any of it!


exactly, why would you lend someone who has made a balls up for the last 8 years and losing the best part of £2M, a huge wedge of cash whilst taking the only asset as guarantee if you didn't think you'd end up owning it sooner rather than later? if you didn't want involved, then why get involved? he must know he's not getting his cash back.
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The person that said he ain't interested,
worked at Carlisle United.
So I'm not naming him on here.

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  1. 31-03-2017 13:44
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The person that said he ain't interested,
worked at Carlisle United.
So I'm not naming him on here.

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So the statement was made up then? Why can't you name them?
  1. 31-03-2017 15:15
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The person that said he ain't interested,
worked at Carlisle United.
So I'm not naming him on here.

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So the statement was made up then? Why can't you name them?


Not sure I follow your logic here. Why can't it be true just because he doesn't want to tell you who told him?
  1. 31-03-2017 16:33
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Terrier do you think if he puts his name on here he'll be happy about it or tell him owt else in future?
  1. 31-03-2017 16:54
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The person that said he ain't interested,
worked at Carlisle United.
So I'm not naming him on here.

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"Worked" past tense Morton ??
  1. 31-03-2017 18:38
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Name and shame!
  1. 31-03-2017 18:38
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But speaking to our sister paper The Cumberland News in 2010 the businessman, who grew up in Greater Manchester, played down the suggestion he would ever like to own the Blues.

He said: “It’s not my intention in any way, shape or form to get involved in owning a club.

“But I’ll continue to help in any way I can.”


Bloody hell Lakes ..that was 7 years ago...things change
  1. 31-03-2017 18:39
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Mortonblue is a respectable source I would have said. he only mentioned what he had been told and I don't blame him for not mentioning the persons name.
  1. 31-03-2017 18:43
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Day doesn't want to run the club he has enough to do!

But he can provide the money for others to run it, competent people in competent roles.
  1. 31-03-2017 19:02
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Day doesn't want to run the club he has enough to do!

But he can provide the money for others to run it, competent people in competent roles.


That would rule out the current owners then!
  1. 31-03-2017 19:51
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you can own a club without having to run it......cant you?
  1. 31-03-2017 20:11
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Of course you can paddock, look at the trust for a prime example
  1. 31-03-2017 20:21
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you can own a club without having to run it......cant you?


Not if it is NC running it you couldn't!

Before hand we had three blokes who said absolutely nothing to the fans and media and now we have one bloke who can speak for an eternity and says absolutely nothing of any note.

It is the same thing, pathetic.
  1. 31-03-2017 20:23
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Must have the same source NS as I heard the same word for word!
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Knitwear and patterns!
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Now £1m?Things must be bad.

Reminds me of Boss Keane's ditch in Cool Hand Luke.Worth watching-classic scene about digging holes.

When in a hole,stop digging
  1. 05-05-2017 11:58
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I agree this was about filling a hole-less sure about the next step.I think we may see a new shirt sponsor but I can't see PD assuming day to day control at this juncture.He appears however to have 'control' via his debenture like a bank-for evidence of how that works,look no further than HBOS and Rangers.I reckon Whyte has no case to answer but Murray and HBOS are looking a bit vulnerable after this week
  1. 05-05-2017 14:31
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Interview with the man himself in the Sunday Times today.None of that pizza to petrochemical NDA crap
  1. 28-05-2017 13:38
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Then don't read it then NS-a tad hypocritical to state you won't buy the paper but happy to read it!
  1. 28-05-2017 14:05
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https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/the-new-king-of-the-high-street-qr66dl0n3

The club certainly fits into the 'failing business' bracket that he seems to go for. An interesting read as Laffy says. I think it's clear that if he were to have further involvement here then he wouldn't be the one at the club on a day-to-day basis as he spends most of his time abroad, but he'd bring his own people in and develop the business sustainably. He doesn't seem like the kind of person to blindly throw loads of cash at something, so any changes would likely be gradual rather than immediately giving Curle a million quid to go and buy Lee Dykes' favourite player. Laffy obviously knows something... I hope this is the start of a new chapter.
  1. 28-05-2017 14:48
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I know as much as everyone else-nothing

That said,I doubt that PD would get involved unless there was an end game.If there isn't, just another £750k?of debt added to the balance sheet and one assumes ahead of AJ.Nobody will invest unless that debt is converted or removed.
  1. 28-05-2017 15:34
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Then don't read it then NS-a tad hypocritical to state you won't buy the paper but happy to read it!



cmon Laffy where would this board be without hypocrites we embrace hypocrisy on here :) :) :)
  1. 28-05-2017 15:47
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"If I didn't sponsor it I don't think they'd exist."
Our reluctant custodians are paupers compared to this guy.
I hope to [censored] god he's getting on board
  1. 28-05-2017 16:40
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im no businessman but I get the feeling if these lot stay in charge for another couple years we will be beyond saving

debt is not being managed and getting bigger where and how does this end ?
  1. 28-05-2017 18:34
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Irrespective of who wants to buy into this,Im telling you the balance sheet needs major repair-that will in my view mean write offs of debt or conversion to equity at low valuations.It ain't coming out as cash!

Nobody at this level invests in a football club by first discharging the underlying debt.

I think common sense will prevail-gravity will force it and PD is in pole position to direct matters.
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Then don't read it then NS-a tad hypocritical to state you won't buy the paper but happy to read it!


Well why post a link to an article on a public forum that the majority of the public can't read, Laffy?
Sad.
  1. 29-05-2017 00:10
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We can only hope that PD does have plans to take over and use Laffys plan or similar to run the club. Fingers crossed on that one.
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Has worked commenced on EWM new offices? PD is opening a new dept. store in Cardiff this week and I wonder if he has similar plans for Carlisle.That would then open the way for new offices at BP which is more convienient for M6 and could complete the financial exercise.
  1. 29-05-2017 08:20
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So I'm 'sad' for not posting the Day article on here.Well that would have involved me photocopying the article and then pasting it-I don't have a copier at home.If that constitutes 'sad' God save us.

The interesting fact in the article for fans is that PD spends less than 10 days a year in the UK having relocated to Dubai-that may change of course in the future.

He also says that he thinks there will be a lot of casualties on the High Street-mainly down to rates and weak sterling.I agree-there will be some surprise names in difficulty unless the government addresses the issue of business rates in particular.
  1. 29-05-2017 08:27
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Lets just hope the man continues to be a roaring success and he takes cufc under his wing and makes us a success.
I'll even promise to get all my woollens from the EWM if he does.
  1. 29-05-2017 08:36
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Work on his new offices at rufus house has begun. Adding another floor on top apparently.
Big job
  1. 29-05-2017 08:38
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Maybe the government could offer little bit of rates relief if everyone stayed and paid the tax?

Weak pound, eh? Why did that happen?
  1. 29-05-2017 08:49
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We dare to dream... following a takeover, having stripped him from the BOD, I'd keep Pattison on to change the light bulbs, clean the toilets and valet the players cars on a Saturday afternoon...
  1. 29-05-2017 09:23
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The club needs a complete overhaul, starting at the top. Dont think PD wouldnt accept or put up with the current state of affairs.
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Temporary blip-I think the problem going forward will be too strong a currency as we will be seen as a safe haven like Switzerland.

The real issue in my view for retail is the imbalance between Amazon and the High Street-only one winner on an unlevel playing field tax wise.
  1. 29-05-2017 09:42
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FROM NEWS AND STAR
Philip Day: If I didn't sponsor Carlisle Utd, club might not exist
Tycoon whose firm are loaning money to Blues adds: I don't really like football


The Cumbrian billionaire whose firm are loaning cash to Carlisle United says the club wouldn't exist without his financial help.

Philip Day, owner of Edinburgh Woollen Mill, made the remarks in a rare interview with The Sunday Times.

Two months ago it was revealed that EWM had a charge against Brunton Park having made "loan facilities" available to the Blues.

It has sparked speculation that Day's firm were poised to take a more involved role in United's affairs.

EWM have so far declined to comment either on the arrangement or how it might develop.

But in the interview with the national newspaper's Oliver Shah, Day briefly touched upon the Blues.

He said: “To be honest, I don’t even like football — my game is really rugby.

"But a lot of people who work with us go to Carlisle, and if I didn’t sponsor it, I don’t think it would exist.”

EWM have so far failed to respond to the News & Star's requests for comment since news emerged in March of the charge against United's ground.

The Blues have so far played down suggestions it will lead to ownership change, with co-owner John Nixon recently telling a group of fans that Day did not want the "hassle and heartache" of owning a club.

But chief executive Nigel Clibbens last month did admit EWM were getting on board with United "in a more involved way".

He also said their input was part of moves to reduce the club's long-standing reliance on co-owner and chairman Andrew Jenkins.

EWM are expected to increase their commercial involvement with United this summer.

The Sunday Times Rich List rated Day's wealth at £1.15bn, but in the interview the tycoon said: "Ok, the company's worth £1bn, but I don't have anything like the money of a billionaire. I'd have to sell everything."

Blues co-owner Nixon, meanwhile, insisted his high-profile role at Saturday's FA Cup Final was "good for the club".

Nixon, who is chairman of the FA Cup committee, was part of the welcoming party that introduced guest of honour Prince William to the Arsenal and Chelsea players before the game.

Former United managing director Nixon, who now holds the title "director of external affairs", has faced criticism from some fans over his various roles with the FA and EFL.

But in an article on United's website he said his involvement at Saturday's Wembley showpiece was "a great honour for me on a personal level and also good for the club that we’re being represented at this level of the game.”

He also said his range of positions gain United "a higher profile", adding: "People connect my involvement directly with Carlisle United as a football club, which I really do think is important."
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[strike][/strike]You heard owt more Cocaine?
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Much as I`d like to see a Knight (or Day) riding on a white charger to take over and banish the 3, to quote a passage from the film Pale Rider, AJ, JN and SP are "dug in deeper than ticks on a hound" and unfortunately will take some shifting. But we live in hope.
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"But a lot of people who work with us go to Carlisle, and if I didn’t sponsor it, I don’t think it would exist.”

It's quite a strange comment to make unless EWM are planning a very generous sponsorship deal worth over £250k a year. Anything much less than that and I'm sure the Club would find other ways of getting by.
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So I'm 'sad' for not posting the Day article on here.Well that would have involved me photocopying the article and then pasting it-I don't have a copier at home.If that constitutes 'sad' God save us.

The interesting fact in the article for fans is that PD spends less than 10 days a year in the UK having relocated to Dubai-that may change of course in the future.

He also says that he thinks there will be a lot of casualties on the High Street-mainly down to rates and weak sterling.I agree-there will be some surprise names in difficulty unless the government addresses the issue of business rates in particular.


I think it was touched on in previous EWM threads that he is a non dom and from what i hear is very precise in the amount of time he spends in the country to avoid compromising that status. Cant see that changing anytime soon, certainly not for CUFC anyways. Not sure i buy the 'EWM workers are carlisle fans' reasons for investing, but im not complaining!

As for the high street - the internet is, has and will continue to kill off the high street until it eventually plateaus at some point in the future. Clothes and food will always have a place and some shops will always be there as people like to shop in person as a past time. But its going to continue to take a battering. Peoples retail habits have changed and you cant compete with the overheads (or lack of) that online benefits from if you are a high street retailer.
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The high street has disappeared, I live in jesmond, near acorn road which was meant to have been famous for shopping at in the past, you'll find withing the area they are no , butchers , no green groceries, no flower shops and no baker's like any modern high street you just find a mini supermarket , a couple of hairdressers and a Gregg's.
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