Tuesday, 17 December 2019
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Boom

Politics latest news: Sir Keir Starmer begins damage limitation as Tories take 17-point poll lead in Hartlepool


Worth mentioning that this was a rather limited exercise - very small sample size.

Fully expect the monkey hangers to join the populist bandwagon though. The Prime Minister has cracked the magic formula known to some as ‘the cult of personality’, and Tory strategists have proven they are streets ahead of their opposition of late. Everybody in the nation seems to be on first name terms with the PM, whereas the leader of the opposition is simply ‘Starmer’.

Whatever your political views are, it’s clear that the Tory grip on the nation is tighter than it’s been for a generation. Scandals that would once have ended careers barely leave a scratch on the PM, and I don’t see that changing anytime soon.
1 year ago
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#275047
You can fool some of the people some of the time but not all of the people all of the
Oh! hang on a min.
1 year ago
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#275052
It’s a pretty big thing to get right though. I’m sure there would have been plenty of Labour mistakes!


Mystic Nobby! Bollocks.
1 year ago
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#275053
Well he’s here for at least another 7 years sk you may as well learn to like him


There's nothing to like!
1 year ago
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#275054
So, it looks like odds on that Bojo and the Tories are not only going to win, but obliterate the Labour Party in the Hartlepool by-election. Being one of the impregnable Red Wall areas, after this, anything is possible. Not long ago, the Tories were in fourth place in this area, what does this mean for the Labour Party, and it's future ? (if it has one in it's current state)

Looks like Jezza and Momentum have done irreparable damage.
1 year ago
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#275056
For a party that is supposed to represent the working class you have a leader caller 'Sir Keir Starmer' - I bet he cut his working teeth down the pits of South Yorkshire, there is part of your problem, do you vote for one toffee nosed git or the other one?

One of the posh boys has garish interior and the one trying not to be posh with a Sir at the front of his name agrees with the other one on nearly everything but wants to stay in Europe - there you have it in a nutshell, who will you vote for?

I can see how his 'we can still be part of the EU - it doesn't have to be goodbye' rallying call to the Geordies is going to go - so can everyone else except from Labour.
1 year ago
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#275059
Boom

Politics latest news: Sir Keir Starmer begins damage limitation as Tories take 17-point poll lead in Hartlepool


Worth mentioning that this was a rather limited exercise - very small sample size.

Fully expect the monkey hangers to join the populist bandwagon though. The Prime Minister has cracked the magic formula known to some as ‘the cult of personality’, and Tory strategists have proven they are streets ahead of their opposition of late. Everybody in the nation seems to be on first name terms with the PM, whereas the leader of the opposition is simply ‘Starmer’.

Whatever your political views are, it’s clear that the Tory grip on the nation is tighter than it’s been for a generation. Scandals that would once have ended careers barely leave a scratch on the PM, and I don’t see that changing anytime soon.


Scandals like?
1 year ago
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#275060
The Labour party still thinks it represents the common working man. Now a generation hasn’t had to go down a pit and join a union, they can see for themselves who to vote for.

‘I’m a Labour man, just like my father and Grandfather’ hopefully might be coming to an end.
1 year ago
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#275062
The Labour party still thinks it represents the common working man. Now a generation hasn’t had to go down a pit and join a union, they can see for themselves who to vote for.

‘I’m a Labour man, just like my father and Grandfather’ hopefully might be coming to an end.


Labour should always be looking out for the working classes therefore people would be voting for them just like their father and grandfather if they have the policies in place that speak for you as a working class person.

I do hope that you are right though where people actually look at what represents them as an individual rather than what is in ingrained into a family's way of life - sadly you will get people, there are some on here, who think along the lines of 'my grandfather would turn in his grave if he found out I had voted tory - no chance'.
1 year ago
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#275063
Looks like Jezza and Momentum have done irreparable damage.


This.
1 year ago
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#275066
I listened to Starmer on R4 this morning-he sounded like a throwback to a bygone age.A metropolitan intellectual so far out of touch with his core vote as to become irrelevant.A poor man’s Blair with no steel, no charisma but plenty of VD.

Hartlepool will be his high water mark-and another bunfight at Millbank between right and left will ensue.

Meanwhile Boris steamrollers all before him
1 year ago
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#275072
I listened to Starmer on R4 this morning-he sounded like a throwback to a bygone age.A metropolitan intellectual so far out of touch with his core vote as to become irrelevant.A poor man’s Blair with no steel, no charisma but plenty of VD.

Hartlepool will be his high water mark-and another bunfight at Millbank between right and left will ensue.

Meanwhile Boris steamrollers all before him


I wouldn't say he steamrollers, there's no opposition. There's scandal after scandal about him nearly daily. His values and most of his cabinets are discussing! As long the rich are alright he's happy, what about the rest?
1 year ago
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#275078
Hartlepool will be his high water mark-and another bunfight at Millbank between right and left will ensue.

Meanwhile Boris steamrollers all before him


I hope they take care of the pictures at Tate Britain while they have the bunfight. Labour Head Office moved out of the Millbank Tower nearly 20 years ago as they couldn't afford the £1 million a year rent. They're in much smaller premises at Victoria Street now.

Labour are becoming a party just for London and the university towns and cities. Sadiq Khan will win the London Mayoral election for Labour by a huge margin. I'm beginning to like him more as he has been unflinching in his support for the new Silvertown Tunnel which will cut congestion crossing the Thames east of Tower Bridge but it has infuriated the Green loonies. The Tory vote will be shocking but they picked a very poor candidate and some people will vote for Laurence Fox.
1 year ago
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#275081
You’re right-I forgot they moved out nearly 20 years ago!
1 year ago
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#275117
Just been reading about those Marilyn Manson abuse claims.

His girlfriend at the time is claiming that he fantasised about setting her naked body on fire.

I mean come on, you get involved with some bloke who smokes the bones of dead people and what do you expect - I would be more surprised to hear him say 'would you like another cup of tea'.

Saying that, I always thought that he was a fake but maybe this lass is right and he really is a weirdo in real life - it might cost him a bob or two if he admits it but it will give his career a much needed lift.
1 year ago
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#275146
Looks like we may have another Mers-el-Kebir on our hands in the Channel
1 year ago
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#275154
All being well, it should get the UK shellfish exporting issues resolved.
1 year ago
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#275203
As expected, Hartlepool is heading to the Tories.

Also in the local Elections, Tories picking up approx 40 Councils from Labour so far...
1 year ago
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#275204
Hope they get back in the league, 4th at the moment
1 year ago
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#275205
Hope they get back in the league, 4th at the moment


Aye, sooner see the likes of Hartlepool and Stockport back in rather than Torquay and Sutton.
1 year ago
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#275208
What a fantastic result
1 year ago
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#275211
Mandellson got it right this morning

Last 11 elections for Labour

Lose,lose, lose, lose, Blair, Blair, Blair, lose, lose, lose,lose
Talking of Mandleson I thought Starmer scored a bit of an own goal focusing on sleaze leading up to the Hartlepool bye-election.

Mandleson was MP for years, they obviously don't mind a bit of sleaze in Hartlepool.
1 year ago
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#275213
I’m not a fan of Mandelson but he is smart
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