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Was Boris about to have a temper tantrum and start crying there?
Starmer had him on the ropes, but never got a killer blow in, the speaker saved Bojo by shifting to the pillock from Leigh who still holds a grudge because they amalgamted Councils with Wigan in the 70'sIsn't politics a pile of sxxt !
I was enjoying that scrap....... So Boris has pulled the plug on the monster lemon that is HS2, or at least part of it. Seems to the right hing to do as it did not much for massive cost, but as always he denied he would shut it. Trains cancelled due to lies on the line, the headline in the Sheffield Telegraph. More u turns than a test drive with Stevie Wonder
I can’t see the Birmingham to Manchester bit being built either. This Government had got what it’ll be happy with - a line between London and Birmingham which will bring benefits at both ends, but more especially to London. I foresee new businesses opening there with folk commuting in from Brum. London gets what London wants.
Regardless of who is in charge down there it has always been a southern bias . They call Birmingham the Midlands and Manchester the North . Have they ever looked at the map ?
Manchester leg will happen. Too many snouts in the trough for it not too…
I'd say they've decided not to make a decision now on the Manchester leg. More logical then the Yorkshire extension but will the country be able to afford it.? Politically they couldn't afford to annoy Andy Burnham again.
To give the Tory government credit they have done more for the proper North than previous governments. Money is pouring into Blyth, the A19 and A69 have been/are being improved, the Treasury has been moved to Darlington etc. Cumbria needs to get its act together to get a slice of the pie!
With Boris latest speech being about peppa pig, is it not time to break all the rules and make Nigel Farage prime minister. He can then sort the countries many problems out, starting with the daily invasions on the Kent coast.
Not really doing him justice there Al, he impersonated a car as well.
Let not forget when we are blaming women and children fleeing RAF bombers, who the real thieves are. This is from the Mail (I apologise) Almost 1 in 5 of biggest firms paid NOTHING last year - and some even got a handout from the taxman whose owners have never paid any tax
BP made £5.6 billion in profit last year – yet still received tax credits worth £134million. That meant it was a net receiver of tax money in the UK, rather than contributing to the cost of running the country where its shares are listed.
Some firms are even paying their chief executives more than they pay in tax. Royal Mail boss Rico Back stands to earn £1.4million this year on top of a £5.8million 'golden hello' for joining the company. But it can now be revealed Royal Mail's UK profit was then increased rather than reduced by tax, thanks to a huge tax credit of £93million - the second largest in our survey - of which £78million was attributed to a pension 'accounting adjustment with no cash benefit', according to the company.
The Royal Mail, long been the home of charlatans of course.
Britain's worst tax Scrooges revealed:
Let not forget when we are blaming women and children fleeing RAF bombers, who the real thieves are. This is from the Mail (I apologise) Almost 1 in 5 of biggest firms paid NOTHING last year - and some even got a handout from the taxman whose owners have never paid any tax
BP made £5.6 billion in profit last year – yet still received tax credits worth £134million. That meant it was a net receiver of tax money in the UK, rather than contributing to the cost of running the country where its shares are listed.
Some firms are even paying their chief executives more than they pay in tax. Royal Mail boss Rico Back stands to earn £1.4million this year on top of a £5.8million 'golden hello' for joining the company. But it can now be revealed Royal Mail's UK profit was then increased rather than reduced by tax, thanks to a huge tax credit of £93million - the second largest in our survey - of which £78million was attributed to a pension 'accounting adjustment with no cash benefit', according to the company.
The Royal Mail, long been the home of charlatans of course.
Britain's worst tax Scrooges revealed:
Not really doing him justice there Al, he impersonated a car as well.
Let not forget when we are blaming women and children fleeing RAF bombers, who the real thieves are. Britain's worst tax Scrooges revealed: Almost 1 in 5 of biggest firms paid NOTHING last year - and some even got a handout from the taxman whose owners have never paid any tax
BP made £5.6 billion in profit last year – yet still received tax credits worth £134million. That meant it was a net receiver of tax money in the UK, rather than contributing to the cost of running the country where its shares are listed.
Some firms are even paying their chief executives more than they pay in tax. Royal Mail boss Rico Back stands to earn £1.4million this year on top of a £5.8million 'golden hello' for joining the company. But it can now be revealed Royal Mail's UK profit was then increased rather than reduced by tax, thanks to a huge tax credit of £93million - the second largest in our survey - of which £78million was attributed to a pension 'accounting adjustment with no cash benefit', according to the company.
The Royal Mail, long been the home of charlatans of course.
[url=https://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/news/article-6522913/Almost-1-5-biggest-firms-paid-year-5-got-handout-taxman.html]
Let not forget when we are blaming women and children fleeing RAF bombers, who the real thieves are. Britain's worst tax Scrooges revealed: Almost 1 in 5 of biggest firms paid NOTHING last year - and some even got a handout from the taxman whose owners have never paid any tax
BP made £5.6 billion in profit last year – yet still received tax credits worth £134million. That meant it was a net receiver of tax money in the UK, rather than contributing to the cost of running the country where its shares are listed.
Some firms are even paying their chief executives more than they pay in tax. Royal Mail boss Rico Back stands to earn £1.4million this year on top of a £5.8million 'golden hello' for joining the company. But it can now be revealed Royal Mail's UK profit was then increased rather than reduced by tax, thanks to a huge tax credit of £93million - the second largest in our survey - of which £78million was attributed to a pension 'accounting adjustment with no cash benefit', according to the company.
The Royal Mail, long been the home of charlatans of course.
[url=https://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/news/article-6522913/Almost-1-5-biggest-firms-paid-year-5-got-handout-taxman.html]
The North ha! I joke with my mate who lives in Macclesfield telling him he lives in the north midlands not the north and definitely not the north west.
With Boris latest speech being about peppa pig, is it not time to break all the rules and make Nigel Farage prime minister. He can then sort the countries many problems out, starting with the daily invasions on the Kent coast.
I agree Johnston is on borrowed time as he isn’t a serious politician never has been
Farage is a racist horrible man
The issue of the refugees crossing the channel was always going to happen with the government’s foreign policy Most of the refugees are from Iran, Iraq Syria and Afghanistan
We have economic sanctions against Iran
We have pulled out of Afghanistan
We have bombed Iraq and Syria
We have cut the foreign aid budget
If I were in their shoes I wouldn’t stay there either
The is what happens when you elect a populist government
Manchester leg will happen. Too many snouts in the trough for it not too…
I'd say they've decided not to make a decision now on the Manchester leg. More logical then the Yorkshire extension but will the country be able to afford it.? Politically they couldn't afford to annoy Andy Burnham again.
To give the Tory government credit they have done more for the proper North than previous governments. Money is pouring into Blyth, the A19 and A69 have been/are being improved, the Treasury has been moved to Darlington etc. Cumbria needs to get its act together to get a slice of the pie!
They should have started building HS2 from the North towards the South rather than up from London.
Would have been the cheaper leg to build and would also iron out some of the general problems encountered before building the dearer section up from London.
Regarding the tax evasion expertise of these multinationals, I regard their accountants/tax advisors the same way as I regard defence lawyers who represent the likes of Peter Sutcliffe or the Manchester bombers. Yes they both have a job to do but these advisors are basically looking for loopholes to get one over the likes of the HMRC AND the rest of us who pay what we owe and who don't receive the level of public service that we should do if they paid what they should.
Is it a coincidence that we are being run by accountants - I think not!
Is it a coincidence that we are being run by accountants - I think not!
Absolutely right whinger. I did it for years. My biggest client was Johnson and Johnson. They had a plant in Livingston that they wanted to shut down, so I had to write the redundancy notices firing people on 31 December because that was the best date for tax purposes. That's when I quit.
In the 80s we had guys earning a million a month whose kids got 100% university grants and paid no tax. The department head bought me a pint once for getting MIRAS relief for a PO Box. We were good at what we did. In defence of the industry, we never did anything illegal, we played by the rules, and the Government make the rules. And no one has set the game to an easier setting than the current Government. Did you vote for them? If you did people earning over £250k a year thank you for your service. There are 10 benefits investigators for every tax investigator. HMRC did a presentation to Osborne showing that for every £1 spent on investigations they earned £86. Osborne's reaction? He cut the budget.
In the 80s we had guys earning a million a month whose kids got 100% university grants and paid no tax. The department head bought me a pint once for getting MIRAS relief for a PO Box. We were good at what we did. In defence of the industry, we never did anything illegal, we played by the rules, and the Government make the rules. And no one has set the game to an easier setting than the current Government. Did you vote for them? If you did people earning over £250k a year thank you for your service. There are 10 benefits investigators for every tax investigator. HMRC did a presentation to Osborne showing that for every £1 spent on investigations they earned £86. Osborne's reaction? He cut the budget.
I was asked to get involved in the Profit Related Pay department in PWC
The legislation had the aim of allowing employees ie plebs , to benefit from tax incentives if they were aligned with their employer.
This was fine until the accountants got involved and figured out you could run calculations which took all the risk away but which involved the employee giving some of the monetary benefit back to the employer.Basically shameful and I felt dirty even being asked to get involved.I duly fell out with the partner in charge for not liking what was a flagrant abuse of well intended legislation to give the ordinary employee a leg up.
The scheme was subsequently dropped because of this immoral behaviour.
The legislation had the aim of allowing employees ie plebs , to benefit from tax incentives if they were aligned with their employer.
This was fine until the accountants got involved and figured out you could run calculations which took all the risk away but which involved the employee giving some of the monetary benefit back to the employer.Basically shameful and I felt dirty even being asked to get involved.I duly fell out with the partner in charge for not liking what was a flagrant abuse of well intended legislation to give the ordinary employee a leg up.
The scheme was subsequently dropped because of this immoral behaviour.
Conservatives It’s all going very well !!!!
To be fair If they don’t lie nobody in their right mind would vote for them
To be fair If they don’t lie nobody in their right mind would vote for them
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So, who's going to win the Shrewsbury By-Election ?
Allot of Tories are pee'd off, however they are unlikely to vote Labour, so the LibDem's maybe benefit.
Labour has had Rayner canvassing, that could be a body blow - for Labour.
The Tories have a massive majority and are unlikely to lose, but never say never.
The worst case scenario is Labour lose votes when the Tories are at their most vulnerable.
Allot of Tories are pee'd off, however they are unlikely to vote Labour, so the LibDem's maybe benefit.
Labour has had Rayner canvassing, that could be a body blow - for Labour.
The Tories have a massive majority and are unlikely to lose, but never say never.
The worst case scenario is Labour lose votes when the Tories are at their most vulnerable.
So, who's going to win the Shrewsbury By-Election ?
Allot of Tories are pee'd off, however they are unlikely to vote Labour, so the LibDem's maybe benefit.
Labour has had Rayner canvassing, that could be a body blow - for Labour.
The Tories have a massive majority and are unlikely to lose, but never say never.
The worst case scenario is Labour lose votes when the Tories are at their most vulnerable.
Labour won’t start to climb the ladder until Rayner is removed from the leadership picture.
They’ve long since given up on North Shropshire, and the Libs are guaranteed second place there - they may even cause a bit of panic amongst the tory ranks tonight as that 23k majority starts to disappear.
A friend of mine had lunch with Rayner recently-he said she’s smart but did note that she said she has never been loved by anyone.
That would go someway to explaining her anger, clothes sense and the bile that spews from her.Try being nice luv
That would go someway to explaining her anger, clothes sense and the bile that spews from her.Try being nice luv
She has a poisonous mouth on her . And she clearly p7ssed the BBC off when they followed her out and posted footage of her smoking. Not often media do that kind of exposure on public figures and it looked like a shot across the bows in warning.
Some pre-Xmas pressure for Boris:
North Shropshire, parliamentary by-election result:
— Britain Elects (@BritainElects) December 17, 2021
LDEM: 47.2% (+37.2)
CON: 31.6% (-31.1)
LAB: 9.7% (-12.4)
GRN: 4.6% (+1.4)
REFUK: 3.8% (+3.8)
LDem GAIN from Con.
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