Tuesday, 17 December 2019
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Now the GE is done and dusted, and with MP’s returning to Parliament today to begin being sworn in, we’ve locked the GE Thread last night, and you can now use this one for any Westminster related stuff.

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"The law at the time said “no person may participate in a gathering in a public place of more than two people” unless it was for one of a number of stated reasons. These included when the gathering was “essential for work purposes” or “all the persons in the gathering are members of the same household”.

However, the Downing Street garden is not a public space. For most of those allegedly attending, it may have been part of their workplace."


What part of a BYOB gathering is ‘essential’ for work purposes?

There’s no mitigation for this.
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#299343
"The law at the time said “no person may participate in a gathering in a public place of more than two people” unless it was for one of a number of stated reasons. These included when the gathering was “essential for work purposes” or “all the persons in the gathering are members of the same household”.

However, the Downing Street garden is not a public space. For most of those allegedly attending, it may have been part of their workplace."


What part of a BYOB gathering is ‘essential’ for work purposes?

There’s no mitigation for this.



Well, I could imagine everyone in the Government was going above and beyond at the time to try and manage a pandemic. This would be be extremely tiring, both physically and mentally.

A short reward for those efforts and a reinvigorating get together at work could only benefit us all.

It makes Hancock's none social distanced knee trembler look a bit feeble. :D :D :D
4 months ago
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#299344
Having worked in London, it’s very common to work late with colleagues and open a bottle or two whilst still working.

His future is in the hands of the lady conducting the inquiry-I think he will get through it.Starmer didn’t land much on him today
4 months ago
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#299345
Having worked in London, it’s very common to work late with colleagues and open a bottle or two whilst still working.

His future is in the hands of the lady conducting the inquiry-I think he will get through it.Starmer didn’t land much on him today



This autumn, there is an economic Tsunami on the way, high energy prices, higher interest rates, inflation and higher food prices.

They will leave Bojo in place to ride it out, then he'll get the order of the boot.
4 months ago
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#299346
Think he will be gone sooner rather than later. This is because the ultimate authority when it comes to deciding political futures is dead against him - the Murdoch press
4 months ago
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#299347
https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2020/1200/part/3/made



PART 3
Restrictions on gatherings
Part 3: general interpretation
7.—(1) This paragraph applies for the purposes of this Part.

(2) A gathering takes place when two or more persons are present together in the same place in order—

(a)to engage in any form of social interaction with each other, or
(b)to undertake any other activity with each other

...

"Participation in outdoor gatherings
9.—(1) No person may participate in a gathering which—
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(a)takes place in a public outdoor place and consists of more than two people, or
(b)takes place in any other outdoor place (including any outdoor part of a private dwelling) and consists of two or more people"

...

Exceptions in relation to gatherings
11.—(1) These are the exceptions referred to in regulations 8, 9 and 10.

Exception 1: same or linked households
(2) Exception 1 is that all the people in the gathering—

(a)are members of the same household, or
(b)are members of two households which are linked households in relation to each other (see regulation 12).
Exception 2: gatherings necessary for certain purposes
(3) Exception 2 is that the gathering is reasonably necessary—

(a)for work purposes
or for the provision of voluntary or charitable services;
...


Don't think a BYOB party counts as reasonable necessary for work purposes...
4 months ago
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#299348
The other way to look at it is that for the last 2 years my home has been my workplace. That doesn't mean I could have invited all my colleagues over for a piss up during lockdown and claimed technically it was ok.
“The Boss will be coming into the garden to thank you for all your hard work. And to really show his appreciation he’s asked you all to bring your own booze”
Having worked in London, it’s very common to work late with colleagues and open a bottle or two whilst still working.

His future is in the hands of the lady conducting the inquiry-I think he will get through it.Starmer didn’t land much on him today


It’s very common for me and my colleagues to open a bottle or two whilst still working on paperwork.

That’s not what happened here though, is it? 100 people were invited for the specific purpose of eating and drinking together whilst making the most of the good weather!
"The law at the time said “no person may participate in a gathering in a public place of more than two people” unless it was for one of a number of stated reasons. These included when the gathering was “essential for work purposes” or “all the persons in the gathering are members of the same household”.

However, the Downing Street garden is not a public space. For most of those allegedly attending, it may have been part of their workplace."


What part of a BYOB gathering is ‘essential’ for work purposes?

There’s no mitigation for this.



Well, I could imagine everyone in the Government was going above and beyond at the time to try and manage a pandemic. This would be be extremely tiring, both physically and mentally.

A short reward for those efforts and a reinvigorating get together at work could only benefit us all.

It makes Hancock's none social distanced knee trembler look a bit feeble. :D :D :D


My Mrs also went above and beyond, along with her colleagues. They weren’t able to enjoy this kind of reward.

Instead they had folk clapping for them, which gave them absolutely nothing in terms of real reward. Clap for the NHS, but let your supreme overlords abuse their own rules and enjoy a good knees up?
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#299355
It wasn’t an orgy-he thanked the staff for supporting him and working hard.
It wasn’t an orgy-he thanked the staff for supporting him and working hard.


Which no employer was allowed to do. Including the people who made the rules. And he’s lied through his teeth about it ever since.

This will make the Conservative Party unelectable if he doesn’t fall on his sword soon.
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#299357
I tells you 2 things. Firstly that the whole covid thing is bullshit. If there was any risk a snivelling little turd like Johnson wouldn't come out of his fridge.

Secondly its a smoke screen. Gas prices could triple? Rather more important than if Johnson had a beer with the secretaries or not.

Usual bait and switch bollocks
4 months ago
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#299358
He could had thanked them by picking up the phone or making a zoom call instead of having a garden party.
I reckon if I had had a booze up in my back garden the plod would have been there in minutes!
Boris the buffoon thinks he is above the law and the sooner he is kicked out the better.
He has lied to the public since the Brexit campaign started and hasn't stooped since and a lot of very guillible people were conned & voted for him.
4 months ago
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#299360
It wasn’t an orgy-he thanked the staff for supporting him and working hard.


Which no employer was allowed to do. Including the people who made the rules. And he’s lied through his teeth about it ever since.

This will make the Conservative Party unelectable if he doesn’t fall on his sword soon.


People will still vote for them. I very nearly did last time - how I’m glad I never - not that it made any difference.

Plenty of choices out there but as per it’s between two unelectable parties really.

Marko is right - shows what a shit show the whole things been.
4 months ago
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#299361
I tells you 2 things. Firstly that the whole covid thing is bullshit. If there was any risk a snivelling little turd like Johnson wouldn't come out of his fridge.


He'd had covid already by then, he'll have thought he was immune
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#299362
It wasn’t an orgy-he thanked the staff for supporting him and working hard.


Which no employer was allowed to do. Including the people who made the rules. And he’s lied through his teeth about it ever since.

This will make the Conservative Party unelectable if he doesn’t fall on his sword soon.


People will still vote for them. I very nearly did last time - how I’m glad I never - not that it made any difference.

Plenty of choices out there but as per it’s between two unelectable parties really.

Marko is right - shows what a shit show the whole things been.


I didnt realise you lived in his constituency Mullen.
4 months ago
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#299363
He'd had covid already by then, he'll have thought he was immune Had he, are you sure? He nearly died, but the great fighter he is pulled through. My arse. Back on TV 17 hours after he was in ICU. Mans an utter knob.

Dogs, guitars and malt whiskey won't lie to you. The rest of it I'll take with a pinch of salt
4 months ago
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#299367
It's all bollocks.

The Tories could legalise the killing of all fluffy kittens and their loyal subjects would still vote for them.

Normally Labour supporters would do likewise, but what happened last time - they fell for all the lies and deceit that was/is Brexit.

The trouble is since then Boris seems to think the public will accept anything he says and does!

He may well cling on for a while yet mind, because no-one is going to be too keen to take on the countries present and upcoming travails and he does kind of make a reasonable comedic punch bag to take attention away from others in his party - oh and there is the issue of there being no viable opposition.

It's XL crisps and beer for me. The rest.........
4 months ago
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#299369
Brilliant put down by Jacob of that clown Douglas Ross-who has boxed himself in with stupid comments. From a man who forgot to declare his referee earnings, despite the games being on national telly
4 months ago
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#299370
Totally agree with Top step. The people who actually run the country have creamed off billions, now it's time to get everyone back to work, so we'll replace cases with stories about Bojo. He'll get fired, or not, if he does the next bought and paid rent a quote comes in, and the song remains the same. Starmer, Sturgeon, Harvie all the same.

Vote Russell Brand!
4 months ago
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#299374
.......all being well, it will strengthen the Jocks resolve, and they will win independence, thank [censored] !

Their is only one problem, Knickerless like's to compare Jockland to Norway where only the well of can afford a beer, so she may struggle to convince the alchy's. That will be a big percentage of the Jock voters :D
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#299375
Having worked in London, it’s very common to work late with colleagues and open a bottle or two whilst still working.

His future is in the hands of the lady conducting the inquiry-I think he will get through it.Starmer didn’t land much on him today



This autumn, there is an economic Tsunami on the way, high energy prices, higher interest rates, inflation and higher food prices.

They will leave Bojo in place to ride it out, then he'll get the order of the boot.


The economic tsunami is already here, but your post is on the nail. The only question, yet again, is that if Johnson will take us to the bottom of the league table (economic, covid), why would anyone ever vote for him?

Independence has gone. To get the 60% approval that will translate into 50% on the day, Sturgeon needs the unemployed, unskilled who in England now all vote Tory, and she needs the educated middle class. The middle class have deserted her over lock down, especially women. Does anyone even know what approval is now? She has made it clear she is going to sell us to the Americans, new green energy will be nuclear (wtf), it's over.
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#299377
I had lunch with Sturgeon a few years ago-lightweight, lacking experience in business and intellect.Basically deluded and looking for a job in Europe.
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