Tuesday, 17 December 2019
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Now the GE is done and dusted, and with MP’s returning to Parliament today to begin being sworn in, we’ve locked the GE Thread last night, and you can now use this one for any Westminster related stuff.

Anything Brexit related will be moved to the ongoing Brexit Thread!

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5 months ago
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#299380
I had lunch with Sturgeon a few years ago-lightweight, lacking experience in business and intellect.Basically deluded and looking for a job in Europe.


Yeah but what we all want to know is did she go back to your room ? :D
5 months ago
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#299381
It wasn’t an orgy-he thanked the staff for supporting him and working hard.


I hope this is a joke? He can't do any bad in your eyes.
5 months ago
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#299383
It wasn’t an orgy-he thanked the staff for supporting him and working hard.


I hope this is a joke? He can't do any bad in your eyes.


Imagine a World Mush with Laffy as CUFC owner a good old tory cronie in as manager 20 points adrift at the foot of league 2 and Laffy coming on here telling us said manager was doing a good job and thesilentone agreeing with him (probably)
5 months ago
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#299384
I rarely watch Loose Women but happened to switch the tv on today whilst I had lunch. The discussion was Boris' party. I really wish that they had been in the house of Commmons to question Boris. Charlene White broke me.

I really don't understand how anyone can think Boris can continue. Ordinary working people who just try and live their lives and follow the rules can never, ever trust him or any politician who backs him ever again.
5 months ago
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#299385
Lunch?! Have you become Southern?!

It’s Dinner!!!

:p
5 months ago
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#299386
Lunch?! Have you become Southern?!

It’s Dinner!!!

:p


My mother was a cockney, sometimes I slip into bad habits :D
5 months ago
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#299388
It’s dinner and I was born in London.

I agree 100% with Bumble but who will takeover - it’s a sad situation really.
8th December - stated at the dispatch box that he was unaware of any parties at Downing Street, therefore clearly misled parliament. The (man) is an indefensible disgrace.
5 months ago
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#299390
8th December - stated at the dispatch box that he was unaware of any parties at Downing Street, therefore clearly misled parliament. The (man) is an indefensible disgrace.


That’s the issue - but he’s using the “I didn’t know it was a party excuse”.
5 months ago
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#299391
Maybe at some point the general public will wake up to exactly what the tories represent and will finally realise they are being laughed at and taken for fools by the toff society that is running or should that be ruining the country.
5 months ago
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#299392
Trouble or positive with Boris is, many agree with him.

When he said women in Burqas looked like Daleks or Bank Robbers, most tittered and agreed, then whacked home over the head with it when it suited the narrative.

Anyone who thought he was a whiter than white straight arrow were looking through rose tinted glasses, personally I'm not a Bojo fan.

But, do I think he put's the UK's interests first ? most definitely.

Has he done a great job with the vaccination roll out, most definitely.

Has he (the Tories) kept the economy on the tracks, most definitely.

Has he blotted his copy book beyond repair, I think so.

The next round of Council elections will be the acid test.

Dear old Teresa lost the Commons majority, Bojo delivered a huge majority, says it all.

Could he do it again, unlikely.

He had the advantage of Corbyn destroying his own Party, and Starmer looks toothless, so never say never.

If the Tories held a leadership challenge, there is a good chance he could win it.

If Labour held a leadership challenge and Rayner won it, he is home and dry.
5 months ago
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#299428
Once you start defending the indefensible you lose all credibility..
5 months ago
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#299429
I voted Tory in the last GE and probably always will. I didn’t vote for John Stevenson (not a fan), I didn’t vote for Boris Johnson (untrustworthy), I voted for the Conservative Party and for their ideology of rewarding hard work and enterprise. That is the top and bottom of it, I wasn’t gullible, I wasn’t lied to, I’m not stupid, I voted for them because I wanted to vote for them, they’re the party which most closely mirrors my own outlook on life.

Having said that, I’m not one of those blinkered disciples who defends the party no matter what and sees no wrong. Boris has sailed close to the wind a few times during his term but this latest misdemeanour is a step too far, the vast majority of rational thinking people will agree. However, there still appears to be a few (including on here) who, astoundingly, are still trying to defend him. An act nearly as embarrassing as Boris’s own attempt at justifying his glaring hypocrisy.
5 months ago
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#299430
That's fair enough Frank.
I usually (but haven't always) voted Tory, but didn't last time as I was against leaving the EU.
But like you, I am generally more aligned with their ideology than I am with the other parties.
5 months ago
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#299432
'The next round of Council elections will be the acid test.'

I don't think there has ever been a bigger divide between Boris's government and local Conservative councillors. Boris's successes in accomplishing Brexit and the vaccine roll-out have very little relevance in council elections where local issues predominate as you'd expect. The government's levelling-up agenda is a bad thing in leafy southern areas as voters question what they are getting from the government when they see billions ploughed into Red Wall seats. Tory councils were outraged by Bob Jenrick's planning reforms which are now quietly being toned down. I think the Lib Dems will do very well in the council elections as Sir Ed seems like a decent middle-class bloke with no policies to put people off. The Greens will pick up protest votes as they are not Tories and the electorate are too stupid to realise how Marxist they really are.

Frankly I can't see there being anything Boris can do to avoid a poor result from the council elections. This is what happens mid-term to governments.
5 months ago
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#299437
Big picture Frank

Who made the big calls?Vaccine, shutdown lifted at Xmas, Brexit.Why Boris of course.

He’s a flawed genius and we love them in Britain.He’s made an error-several actually, but Churchill was no saint.

If he goes, who else?Captain Hindsight, yet another lawyer or that opportunist who leads the Libdems?

Sunak is in a strong position to reshape the top table but keep Boris in place.Taking on the top job at this juncture is too challenging
Big picture Frank

Who made the big calls?Vaccine, shutdown lifted at Xmas, Brexit.Why Boris of course.

He’s a flawed genius and we love them in Britain.He’s made an error-several actually, but Churchill was no saint.

If he goes, who else?Captain Hindsight, yet another lawyer or that opportunist who leads the Libdems?

Sunak is in a strong position to reshape the top table but keep Boris in place.Taking on the top job at this juncture is too challenging


For all WC’s faults, he had principles. Boris Johnson does not. The man has always been a political windsock. He’s not fit to wipe Thatcher’s arse, and our system of government loses credibility with every second he spends as our Prime Minister.

Why should anybody follow laws they don’t agree with when the people who make those laws choose not to abide by them? Dereliction of duty; abdication of responsibility; brazen elitism… any and all of those phrases fit. Lead by example, or don’t lead at all.

If he resigns now, the Conservative Party has every chance of putting this to bed and rebuilding support. If he clings on, that majority will disintegrate at the next GE.

On a personal level, my partner and I have lost several people we were close to over the past couple of years. They didn’t get the support they should have had at the end of their lives because of the laws enacted by Boris Johnson’s government. You’ll forgive me for being slightly bitter that he feels that such laws don’t apply to him - and that he lied through his teeth on multiple occasions before his half arsed admission and pathetic ‘apology’ for the cameras yesterday.
5 months ago
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#299441
Big picture Frank

Who made the big calls?Vaccine, shutdown lifted at Xmas, Brexit.Why Boris of course.

He’s a flawed genius and we love them in Britain.He’s made an error-several actually, but Churchill was no saint.

If he goes, who else?Captain Hindsight, yet another lawyer or that opportunist who leads the Libdems?

Sunak is in a strong position to reshape the top table but keep Boris in place.Taking on the top job at this juncture is too challenging


The big picture is Laffy, if Boris stays whatever majority he held at the last GE will disappear. He’s lost the trust of the voter.
5 months ago
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#299442
As I’ve said before, Boris was never going to be in charge for the next GE IMO.

He was put in to push Brexit through, he’ll be replaced in plenty time ahead of the next GE by someone who’ll steer the ship…
5 months ago
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#299448
GDP figures this morning confirm economy is bigger than pre pandemic level.Who gets the credit?
5 months ago
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#299449
GDP figures this morning confirm economy is bigger than pre pandemic level.Who gets the credit?


People like me working from home and rejecting the presenteeism culture of the office to the chagrin of big landlords and their Tory chums

https://www.apollotechnical.com/working-from-home-productivity-statistics/

Feel free to send me a large amount of money
GDP figures this morning confirm economy is bigger than pre pandemic level.Who gets the credit?




Do Chinese GDP figures excuse their wrongs? Of course not. Why then should ours?
5 months ago
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#299457
That’s a wild jump mate-most people in this country worry about a job and cash, not wine and cheese parties.He’s apologised-I suggest we move on and let the Tories and electorate decide whether he survives
5 months ago
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#299459
He's dead in the water.

The interesting thing now is, who will fill his boots, and when ?

What is the next big agenda, China ? Russia ?

China has already made it public knowledge this is the decade they will achieve World dominance, will we see an exodus of Western Companies who are manufacturing in China now ?

Will Putin get his own way, and stop the Ukraine joining NATO ?

The RN crashed into a Russian sub off the NW of Shetland recently, never saw that on the front pages..........
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